Carol, This will answer two of you questions. 1) date Clara Ellen England Radcliff died. 2)Who were the children of david Franklin Radcliff and Clara Elen England Radcliff The answers are in the following family group sheets: My Great-Great Grandparents 21. David Franklin RADCLIFF (David C.3, Rev. Charles R.2, Edward F.1) was born 09 MAR 1872. David died 1940. He married twice. He married Rosa Ellen KALEY in Fayette Co., IL, 18 FEB 1892. He married Clara E. ENGLAND 19 OCT 1896. Clara was born in Fayette Co.IL 1875. She died in Hillsboro, Montgomery Co., IL 8 Aug 1949 of Kidney trouble. She was the daughter of John Calvin England d. 24 Dec 1826 and Elvira McAliley. David Franklin RADCLIFF and Rosa Ellen KALEY had the following child: 23 i. Earl5 RADCLIFF was born on (birth date unknown). David Frank RADCLIFF and Clara E. ENGLAND had the following children: 24 iii. William RADCLIFF was born on (birth date unknown). William is deceased. Died in childhood. 25 iv. Frances RADCLIFF was born on (birth date unknown). Frances is deceased. 26 v. Anna RADCLIFF was born 23 AUG 1907. Anna died 29 FEB 1992 in Will Co., IL, at 84 years of age. She married twice. She married Lester Arthur FINLEY in USA. Lester was born in USA 11 JUL 1906. Lester was the son of Prunis "Buck" "P.A." Audy FINLEY and Frances Rosette LEOPARD. Lester died 23 AUG 1971 at 65 years of age. His body was interred 1971 in St. Elmo,Fayette Co.,IL, Maplewood Cemetary. (See Lester Arthur FINLEY for the continuation of this line.) She married David OLGESBY SR. (See David OLGESBY SR. for the continuation of this line.) 24 ii. Merrill RADCLIFF was b. February 18, 1913; d. January 25, 1950 28 vi. Goldie Stella RADCLIFF (still alive) b. November 15, 1915. . ________________________________________________ My Great-Grandparents 50. Lester Arthur6 FINLEY (Prunis "Buck" "P.A." Audy5, Beauford Yeager4 FINLEY, Howard3 FINLEY, John2, Thomas1) was born in USA 11 JUL 1906. Lester died 23 AUG 1971 at 65 years of age. His body was interred 1971 in St. Elmo,Fayette Co.,IL, Maplewood Cemetary. He married Anna RADCLIFF in USA. Anna was born 23 AUG 1907. Anna was the daughter of David Frank RADCLIFF and Clara E. ENGLAND. Anna died 29 FEB 1992 in Will Co., IL, at 84 years of age. Lester Arthur FINLEY and Anna Ellen RADCLIFF had the following children: 51 i. Verla Vondelle7 FINLEY b. 28 October 1928 Wilberton Twp, Fayette County, IL d. 4 Aug 1999 Effingham, IL buried in Maplewood Cemetery, St. Elmo, Fayette County, IL + 52 ii. Darrel FINLEY (still alive). + 53 iii. Dennis Paul FINLEY (still alive). + 54 iv. Lloyd Dean FINLEY (still alive). _______________________________________________________ My Grandparents 2. Fountain Daniel2 CRUM (Walter1) (still alive). Fountain Daniel CRUM and Verla Vondelle FINLEY had the following children: 3 i. Connie Lou3 CRUM (still alive). 4 ii. Evelyn CRUM was born in Fayette Co.,IL,USA Dec 1948. Evelyn died May1949 in Fayette Co.,IL,USA, at less than one year of age. Her body was interred 1949 in Fayette Co.,IL,USA, Maplewood Cemetary. 5 iii. Daniel Lee CRUM was born 10 OCT 1950. 6 iv. Russell CRUM (still alive). 7 v. Jackylon CRUM (still alive). 8 vi. Lori Annette CRUM (still alive). 9 vii. Owen Wallace CRUM (still alive). ___________________________________________________ My Parents 1. Harley Elwood1 PEARSON was born before about 1966, the first event for which there is a recorded date. Harley became the father of Penny Vondelle PEARSON in Vandalia, Fayette County, IL, USA, 25 JUN 1968. Harley Elwood PEARSON and Connie Lou CRUM had the following child: 2 i. Penny Vondelle2 PEARSON (still alive). (Thats Me!) Married Todd E. Lewis son of Mary Arlene Lilly and Charles Eugene Lewis at Bethlehem Lutheran Church, Altamont, Effingham County, IL on April 15 1988. Let me know if there is a match, Penny ----- Original Message ----- From: <bobcartilson@uswest.net> To: <ILFAYETT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 10, 2000 1:23 PM Subject: Re: [ILFAYETT-L] McKinneys, McAlileys & Sages > Penny, > > Thanks for the information on David Radcliff; I'll get it added to my file. In addition to your great-grandmother, Anna Ellen, just how many children did he and Clara England have? Most of us McKinney and McAliley researchers don't have any more information than the fact they were married, probably because they left Fayette County. It's interesting David died in Madison County. That's where the first McAliley to come to Illinois settled. Do you happen to know where and when Clara died? > > In case you're wondering, I spell "McAliley" this way (no double Ls) because that's how John D. McAliley (father of your Elvira and brother of our Nancy*) spelled it in 1857 when he petitioned to become the guardian of Nancy and William McKinney's daughter, Frances. Another reason is because McAliley is the the accepted standard of the main McAliley community, and some of them -- especially the South Carolina and Florida branches -- tend to make fun of the various Fayette County spellings. > > If you're interested in following the McAliley line back a few more generations, one good place to start is Robert Torbert's WorldConnect file. The following URL is for David and Clara's page. Bob doesn't have their children either. He does have a number of Fayette County surnames in the file but not all the multiple relationships are linked. > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=habtorb ert&id=I1954 > > Carol > > *I may have mixed up generations in an earlier e-mail and said Elvira and Nancy were sisters. So sorry if I did and confused you. All these connections are confusing enough without me making it any worse. > > > Penny Lewis wrote: > > > Carol, > > > > Here are some information to add to yours on David Franklin Radcliffe (I have his death certificate) It states that he was born 1 Jan 1872 died on 22 June 1953 at 7:15 p.m. at age 81 in Madison County at Villa Terrace Nursing Home Alton, IL. He died of Cerebral Vascular Accident due to Arteriosclerosis (since I am a nurse I will tell you that that is a fancy word for a "stroke"). His ususal residence was listed as Hilsboro, Montgonery County, IL. He is buried at Cress Hill Cemetery, Hilsboro, Montgomery Co., IL. He is my great great grandfather : his wife (Clara Ellen England) through his daughter Anna Ellen Radcliffe Finley. > > > > Penny > > lewis@csuol.com > > Fayette County, IL GenWeb Coordinator > > www.rootsweb.com/~ilfayett/ilfayette.htm\ > > >