Is anyone working on the clans of Joseph McKinney and Nancy Sage -- or those of John and Elizabeth (McDowell) McAliley? Just joined this list and thought I'd check to see if my husband has any "new cousins" out there. His 3great-grandparents are William and Nancy (McAliley) McKinney, m. 1844 in Fayette County. William is the son of Daniel and Frances (Williams) McKinney. Carol in Cornhuskerland

Carol, Off the top of my head , I think my great granmothers side ( RADCLIFF) has McKinney and McAllilley. I cannot check my files right now because of time restraints but I will check their names the first chance that I get. Penny lewis@csuol.com Fayette County, IL GenWeb Coordinator www.rootsweb.com/~ilfayett/ilfayette.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: <bobcartilson@uswest.net> To: <ILFAYETT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 5:12 AM Subject: [ILFAYETT-L] McKinneys, McAlileys & Sages > Is anyone working on the clans of Joseph McKinney and Nancy Sage -- or > those of John and Elizabeth (McDowell) McAliley? Just joined this list > and thought I'd check to see if my husband has any "new cousins" out > there. His 3great-grandparents are William and Nancy (McAliley) McKinney, > m. 1844 in Fayette County. William is the son of Daniel and Frances > (Williams) McKinney. > > Carol in Cornhuskerland > > >

If you've got Radcliff, McKinney and McAliley, you have to be a "cousin" to my husband -- somehow. By blood and/or by marriage, Joseph and Nancy (Sage) McKinney are probably connected to more than half of the people who lived in Fayette County. His eldest daughter, Elizabeth, married Michael Radcliff. Others married into Hall, Whitfield and Williams families. Some other "blood-related" surnames are Allison, Austin, Baggett, Bennett, Buckmaster, Caldwell, Denton, Depew, England, Harris, Jepperson, Kaley, Lockard, McCurley, McDonald, Morgan, Moulton, Peery, Ray, Rhodes, Rose, Russ, Von Forell, Walker, West, Wren and Wyant. And that's just from a quick scan of an FTW-generated kinship report. In some cases, there are double or triple relationships -- mainly the result of McKinney grand- and great-grandchildren marrying descendants of Nancy Sage's siblings. There's probably a lot more I know nothing about. Thank the Good Lord for computers, or I couldn't keep track of them all. Carol in Cornhuskerland Penny Lewis wrote: > Carol, > > Off the top of my head , I think my great granmothers side ( RADCLIFF) has > McKinney and McAllilley. I cannot check my files right now because of time > restraints but I will check their names the first chance that I get. > > Penny > lewis@csuol.com > Fayette County, IL GenWeb Coordinator > www.rootsweb.com/~ilfayett/ilfayette.htm > >

I have a little on that family as it ties in to other families I research. This is what I have: John McAlilly b. 1790 SC Elisabeth ____ b. 1790 SC 5 children: 1. Mary Ann born 1819 married John H. Buckmaster August 5, 1840 Fayette Co. 3 children on the 1850 census--Francis, Joseph and Elizabeth. 2. Clarissa born 1820. I'm not positive this is her name, it is hard to read on the 1850 census. She is still living with her parents and listed as not being able to read or write. Maybe mentally handicapped? 3. Eveline born April 3, 1823 VA died November 9, 1852 buried in Williams Cemetery. Married James A. Williams November 2, 1843 Fayette Co. Children --Harriet, Walter, Nancy and Jefferson. Only Walter and Jefferson are on the 1850 census so unsure if Harriet and Nancy died prior to this. Eveline and James are living 2 households away from her parents on the census. 4. Nancy born 1824-1829 married William McKinney November 7, 1844 Fayette Co. I could not find this couple on the 1850 census in Fayette County. Had they moved? 5. John D. born 1830 married Frances Emeline McKinney March 18, 1855 in Fayette County. I have no death date for John but have Frances marrying James Depew February 9, 1860. There may be more McAlilly children for this couple but this is all I have so far. There were many other McAlilly marriages in Fayette County. Were William McKinney and Frances Emeline McKinney related? Lynne

Lynne: Will answer some of your easier questions now and tackle more difficult ones later. OK? Carol in Cornhuskerland ____________________ Re: William and Nancy (McAliley) McKinney (m 1844): William and Nancy had only one child, a daughter named Frances, b. 07 Oct 1845. William McKinney took ill and died, prob. on Feb. 19 or 20, 1846. The exact date is unknown. William's estate was billed for doctor visits on Feb. 16, 18 and 19. Also in his probate file is a bill from from merchant Robert Blackwell (sent to "Danl McKiney for Son Wm") with Feb. 21 charges of $1.60 for "8 yards of shrouding" and .25 for "1 pr white socks." Too me, that sounds like he was alive on the 19th, dead on the 21st. William McKinney's widow, Nancy, married Elijah Pritchett 29 Jul 1847 in Madison Co., IL. Elijah Pritchett, Nancy, Frances, Emma and John H. are listed on the 1850 Madison County Census. In 1857, however, John D. McAliley (Nancy's brother) was appointed guardian of his niece who was living with him and described in the records as "an orphan" without father or mother. It is presumed that Nancy died between 1850 and 1857, and Elijah, perhaps not wanting responsibility for a child from his deceased wife's first marriage, sent Frances back to Fayette County. ____________________ Re: John D. McAliley John D. died 01 Nov 1859 in Fayette County. See McKinney family group (below) for prior and later marriages of his widow, Frances Emeline McKinney. ____________________ Re: Are William and Frances Emeline McKinney related? Yes, they were were siblings and two of Daniel and Frances Ann (Williams) McKinney's seven children. When William and Nancy (McAliley) McKinney' daughter became the ward of John D. McAliley, she actually would have been living with her maternal (McAliley) uncle and paternal (McKinney) aunt. After John D. McAliley died, Miles C. McKinney (another of William and Frances Emeline sib's), took over as young Frances' guardian. Unfortunately, Miles died in 1863 (Civil War). After losing her parents and two uncle guardians, poor young Frances must have had it. In 1864, she married Samuel Wood Osborn -- and they became my husband's 2great-grandparents. ____________________ Re: Daniel McKinney Family Group Daniel2 McKinney (Joseph1 & Nancy Sage) b. abt 1796 in Mercer Co, KY, d. 18 Sep 1854 in Fayette Co, IL. He m1 Frances Ann Williams 11 Jun 1825, FC, d/o of John Williams & Elizabeth "Betsy" ?. Frances Ann b. 1800 - 1810, Calvert Co, MD, d. 15 Feb 1850 in Fayette Co, IL. Daniel m2 Mary M Kent 29 Apr 1852, FC. Children of Daniel McKinney and Frances Williams are: 1. James Alexander3 McKinney, b. abt 1825, FC; d. Apr 1855, FC. He m. Jane M Enochs 10 Dec 1847, FC; b. 06 Mar 1827 in Illinois; d. 03 Sep 1896, FC?. 2. William McKinney, b. abt 1825, FC; d. abt 19-20 Feb 1846, FC. He m. Nancy McAliley 07 Nov 1844, FC; b. abt 1828 in Illinois (22 in 1850); d. prob. 1850-57, Madison Co, IL. Nancy m2 Elijah Pritchett. 3. Mary Jane McKinney, b. abt 1828, FC; d. Aft. 1870. She m. Nathan Noyes Moulton 20 Jul 1842, FC; b. abt 1822; d. 28 Apr 1870, Fayette or Bond Co?. 4. Daniel Uriah McKinney, b. 30 Nov 1828, FC; d. 17 Feb 1872, FC. He m. Drucilla McKinney 23 Feb 1851, FC; b. 1827 - 1830, FC; d. Aft. 1872. 5. Miles C McKinney, b. 1830-35, FC; d. 23 Jan 1863, Milliken's Bend (Vicksburg), LA. He m1 Elizabeth B Depew 17 Jul 1853, FC; she b. Aug 1831, FC; d. 06 Sep 1854 in Carson Twp, FC, (23y, 11m). Miles m2 Mary Ann Reavis 14 Jan 1858, FC. 6. Elizabeth McKinney, b. abt 1836, FC. No further info. 7. Frances Emeline/Emiline McKinney, b. abt 1839, FC; d. 21 May 1890, FC. She m1 James Amos Depew, Sr 09 Feb 1860, FC; James b. abt 1839, FC; d. 13 May 1863 in Milliken's Bend (Vicksburg) LA. Frances Emeline m2 John D McAliley 18 Mar 1855, FC; John b. abt 1835, FC; d. 01 Nov 1859, FC. Frances m3 Jefferson Kaley 29 Sep 1864, FC; Jefferson b. Nov 1830 in Pennsylvania or Ohio; d. 28 Sep 1907, FC. Lynne Evans wrote: > I have a little on that family as it ties in to other families I research. > This is what I have: > > John McAlilly b. 1790 SC > Elisabeth ____ b. 1790 SC > 5 children: > > 4. Nancy born 1824-1829 married William McKinney November 7, 1844 > Fayette Co. I could not find this couple on the 1850 census in Fayette > County. Had they moved? > 5. John D. born 1830 married Frances Emeline McKinney March 18, 1855 in > Fayette County. I have no death date for John but have Frances marrying > James Depew February 9, 1860. > > Were William McKinney and Frances Emeline McKinney related? > > Lynne

I know there are many, many inactive cemeteries in Fayette County. My question is, back in the 1800's when they were active, did someone keep centralized records for each cemetery? Or, since many of them were family plots did they just do the burials and not keep any records? Did maybe a family member keep a book of who was buried in which plot and when? Also, would there be some kind of land record when a tract was made into a cemetery? I'm interested in finding out when the Pope cemetery near Bingham was activated. In looking through records it appears that the first burial was Nancy Gardner November 22, 1841. The original owner was Lemuel Pope who purchased the tract on March 7, 1836. Lemuel's brother, Valentine died in October 1844 and I've had no luck trying to figure out where he is buried. It would make sense that he is buried here but there is no headstone for either Valentine or his wife, Elizabeth. Thanks, Lynne

Lynne, There was a Valentine POPE b.abt 1800 d. abt1844 Fayette Co, IL married Elizabeth DAVIDSON d.abt 1862 both supposed to be buried in POPE Cemetery. I do not have a POPE line but they were related to my James WALKER in the area. My own ancestry is in the HIMES line link of our homepage http://members.truepath.com/beverly/index.html Feliz Navidad from New Mexico, Beverly Jane (HIMES) BARGER ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynne Evans" <evans6@coastalnet.com> To: <ILFAYETT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2000 4:08 PM Subject: [ILFAYETT-L] Cemetery question > I know there are many, many inactive cemeteries in Fayette County. My > question is, back in the 1800's when they were active, did someone keep > centralized records for each cemetery? Or, since many of them were family > plots did they just do the burials and not keep any records? Did maybe a > family member keep a book of who was buried in which plot and when? > > Also, would there be some kind of land record when a tract was made into a > cemetery? I'm interested in finding out when the Pope cemetery near Bingham > was activated. In looking through records it appears that the first burial > was Nancy Gardner November 22, 1841. The original owner was Lemuel Pope who > purchased the tract on March 7, 1836. Lemuel's brother, Valentine died in > October 1844 and I've had no luck trying to figure out where he is buried. > It would make sense that he is buried here but there is no headstone for > either Valentine or his wife, Elizabeth. > > Thanks, > Lynne > >