Hi Sandy, I *think* my Olivers are from a different Fayette County Oliver line altogether, but one never knows <grin>. I have very little information but here is what I have: Allen OLIVER (b. IN) m. Susan GOSNELL, Coles Co IL in November 1856. I find an Emaline GOSNELL in the 1850 Coles County census index; her age is given as 14 years, born in Indiana, but she is living with a different family. I also found a George W OLIVER (born in NC) in the 1850 Coles County census with a son James A. OLIVER, age 8 or 9, born in Indiana. Most of the male ancestors in my Illinois line went by their middle names which makes them very hard to find in the census. It's possible that this is my Allen OLIVER but he would have married at the age of 14 or 15 I only have the name of one of Allen and Susan's children, my great great grandfather Martin H. OLIVER, b Mar 1861 IA; m Mary Ellen POPE, daughter of John George (Johann Georg) POPE and Elizabeth Jane REDDISH on Sept 1, 1886. Martin was living in Nokomis, Montgomery County, IL but married Mary Ellen POPE in Fayette County IL. It appears that they lived in Montgomery County for awhile before settling permanently in Fayette County. Their children were: 1. Hattie Myrtle OLIVER (9 Sep 1887 - 24 Jul 1973) m. Thomas Llewlleyn MAHON (18 Aug 1884 - 27 Aug 1964) 2. Hugh W. OLIVER (b Jan 1891) 3. Phoebe J. OLIVER (b Jun 1892) m. John STUTTWIG 4. Florence Ellen OLIVER (Feb 1895 - Sept 1978) m. Clarence SYLVESTER HELM (June 1893 - Nov 1966) -- these are my grandparents 5. Elizabeth 'Bessie' C OLIVER (b Apr 1897) married ? Howard ? Pruitt 6. Velva M OLIVER (b Apr 1897) 7. Mary A OLIVER (b May 1898) This probably only muddies the water a little bit more, I'm afraid. Cheryl Helm Ohio EChristen@aol.com wrote: > Dear Cheryl: > I am interested in your reference to Phoebe Oliver. I have searched for > Oliver family connections in Fayette County and have hit a brick wall as > well. From my research I have learned that there were apparently two Oliver > families in the area that were not related. Do you have any further > information on Phoebe's family? I was wondering if perhaps she would have > been a daughter of one of my Oliver ancestors. > > ?Martin ?MATHEW OLIVER and MARIA RADABRUCH are: > i. IRVIN3 OLIVER, b. May 17, 1847; d. March 12, 1908, Moccasin Twp., > Effingham Co., Illinois. > ii. JACOB OLIVER. > iii. JOHN OLIVER. > iv. SALLY OLIVER. > v. HENRY OLIVER. > vi. WILLIAM OLIVER. > vii. JEREMIAH OLIVER. > viii. MARY ANN OLIVER. > > The following site may be helpful in your search as well. > > <A HREF="http://www.tbox.com/isgs/default.html">Illinois State Genealogical > Society - Home Page</A> > > Sandy > Echristen@aol.com > Searching: OLIVER, EVERLEN, DOTY, CAVANEE, > SOWARDS, HARP, FORCE, MASTERSON

Dear Cheryl: I am interested in your reference to Phoebe Oliver. I have searched for Oliver family connections in Fayette County and have hit a brick wall as well. From my research I have learned that there were apparently two Oliver families in the area that were not related. Do you have any further information on Phoebe's family? I was wondering if perhaps she would have been a daughter of one of my Oliver ancestors. ?Martin ?MATHEW OLIVER and MARIA RADABRUCH are: i. IRVIN3 OLIVER, b. May 17, 1847; d. March 12, 1908, Moccasin Twp., Effingham Co., Illinois. ii. JACOB OLIVER. iii. JOHN OLIVER. iv. SALLY OLIVER. v. HENRY OLIVER. vi. WILLIAM OLIVER. vii. JEREMIAH OLIVER. viii. MARY ANN OLIVER. The following site may be helpful in your search as well. <A HREF="http://www.tbox.com/isgs/default.html">Illinois State Genealogical Society - Home Page</A> Sandy Echristen@aol.com Searching: OLIVER, EVERLEN, DOTY, CAVANEE, SOWARDS, HARP, FORCE, MASTERSON

This family is one of my major brick walls. John Stuttwig married Phoebe Oliver (born June 1892 in Fayette County, parents Martin H. Oliver and Mary Ann Pope). According to my father, John worked for the railroad and they lived in East Saint Louis for a number of years, but I understand from a second cousin that John and Phoebe are buried in Fayette County IL. I Having tried every search engine I can think of, the only information I have found on this family is: Margarethe Stuttwig patented 40 acres of RR land in Fayette County 30 Mar 1882 Frieda Stuttwig (b. 17 Mar 1903, d 26 Jun 1998), daughter of Frank Stuttwig and Henrietta Denning, married to Floyd William Sumption in 1922. Her obituary mentions a sister named Georgia. Maureen Stuttwig married William E. Manion. Does anyone know anything about this family or have any suggestions how I might go about tracking down some information about them? Cheryl Helm Ohio

I have in our family a Sarah Louisa Manion that married a William Asa Leach. I don't know much about the Manion family but I can give you a name and address and you could write to her and she if she could help you out on the William E Manion that you mentioned in your e-mail. Her name is Ethel Meidinger, 7802 N. Wayne, Kansas City Mo 64118-1966. She is related to my husband's family the Leach family My name is Katie Leach.

Can I ask a favor: If anyone "Happens" to search any obituaries or newspaper articles in Fayette County, could you please take a quick look and see if you see ANYTHING on the following: I am looking for the parents, siblings or family of: Henry W. (possibly Walter) Rinkel: Born in Hanover, Germany of 27 Nov 1850, died in Fayette County (Farina) Illinois on 17 Dec 1929. Buried in the Farina Cemetary. Married to: Henrietta Kruse on 23 April 1885 (in Chicago, IL). Children: Lillie & Lydia (twins), Elmer H., Henry G., Walter M., Frieda. Parents of Henry W. Rinkel: Henry and Dorothea (Kohlberg) Rinkel Thank you.

I am researching my MCDONALD family roots. What I have at this point is that Fred McDonald and Ruth DURBIN began their family in Sefton, IL between 1905 and 1913. Their children were Lawrence, Clarence, Alice and Bonnie. Lawrence McDONALD moved to Champaign, IL and ran a gambling house there. If anyone has additional information on that I would appreciate it. I have found a record that in 1900 there was a MCDONALD family of William and Sarah with the children: Fred, Walter, Maude and Tammy. This is my gggrandfather and mother. Apparently William McDonald's father came from Ireland. This is as far as I have gotten so far. Any additional information would be helpful. I do not have death information on anyone so far and would appreciate anything. Thank you, Karen Lynch ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Can someone do a lookup from the 1860 Fayette County Census for me? I need the information on John & Mary (Polly) Hicks (maybe Hix) and their children. Thank you, Sandra Tipton dooziet@home.com http://thetiptons.rootsweb.com

Does anyone know anything about Elizabeth CHESHIRE the 2nd wife of Rutherford SHELTON married abt 1840 Fayette Co, IL? I have a direct CHESHIRE ancestry line who came from Hampshire Co, WVA to Shelby & Fayette Co, IL. My line is in the HIMES line link of our homepage. http://members.truepath.com/beverly/index.html Beverly (HIMES) BARGER ----- Original Message ----- From: <EdEMills@aol.com> To: <ILFAYETT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 3:41 PM Subject: [ILFAYETT-L] Sheltons of Fayette County > Several books have been written about the Shelton family, including - The > Sheltons, by Kathryn Morris Brown, tracing the family back to about 1100 in > England. The Thomas Shelton Family in Early Virginia, by Frank H. Shelton, > and A History of the Shelton Family in England and America, by Mildred > Campbell Whitaker are all very useful in compiling the Shelton Family data. > > Mildred Campbell Whitaker traces the Shelton family from Virginia to Bermuda > and back to England. According to her, the Sheltons were prominent in early > English affairs, back to the time of the Barrons who forced King John to sign > the Magna Carta, King William, the Conqueror, and beyond to one of the early > Sheltons, Ralph Shelton of Norfolk, the Crusader. The Sheltons were > definitely of English descent. > > My GtGrandmother was Sarah Angeline Shelton, daughter of Daniel Shelton and > his 2nd of 4 wives, Mary Elizabeth Haislip. Sarah Angeline Shelton married > William Allen Mills in 1869 in Fayette County and during 63 years of > marriage, reared a family of 12 and two additional orphans. William Allen > Mills, Sarah Mills, and Daniel Shelton, her father, are all buried in > Wilberton Cemetery, Wilberton Twp., Fayette County. > > Daniel Shelton was the son of Rutherford Shelton and Elizabeth Mulliken, who > married 1817, Gallatin County, KY. Rutherford Shelton married 3 times; his > second wife was Elizabeth Cheshire whom he married in 1840, Fayette County, > IL. There is a small long forgotten cemetery in Wilberton Township about a > mile from the old Frogtown School... it sets out along the edge of a field... > the Cheshire Cemetery. It probably holds about 20-25 stones still standing. > It may have already been catalogued by the FCGS and published in earlier > editions of Fayette Facts. > > When researching William Henry Harrison Shelton in Fayette... there were two. > First, W.H.H. 1820-1898, son of Rutherford and Elizabeth Mulliken. This first > W.H.H. married 1. Isabel Martin in 1843 in Fayette County, married 2. E.L. > Matilda Sproull in 1877, Fayette County, IL, and he also had a brother... > Daniel Shelton... noted above. > > The second W.H.H. Shelton 1859-1940, was a son of the Daniel Shelton noted > above... and his 3rd of 4 wives... Catherine Elizabeth Shupe. This second > W.H.H. married in 1882, Margaret Montgomery and was a 1/2 brother to my > GtGrandmother, Sarah Angeline. This second W.H.H. Shelton died in Woods > County, OK. > > This particular line of the Shelton Family probably came from England in the > late 1600's and may be connected with further research with the > aforementioned books. However, this Shelton direct line was first noted in > Middlesex County, VA, then south into Pittsylvania County, VA, east to > Gallatin County, KY, and then into Fayette County, IL. One connection of > generations in VA/KY is lacking sufficient documentation to validate that > Rutherford Shelton was the son of Daniel Shelton, Jr. and his wife, Martha > Keatts, however, several of us researching this line over the years have come > to the conclusion that he was the son of Daniel, Jr. > > Daniel Shelton Jr. 1764-1816 was the son of Daniel, Sr. and his wive Lettia > Young, who married 1750 in Middlesex County, VA. Daniel, Sr. 1729-1809 was > the son of Ralph Shelton 1685-1733 and Mary Crispen, who married > approximately 1706, Middlesex County, VA. Ralph Shelton was the son of Peter > Shelton 1664-1718 and his wife Susannah Jaxon (Jackson). The book The History > of Pittsylvania County, VA holds a lot of data on this Shelton Family Line in > the 1800's. > > Obviously, many of these generations of Sheltons had large families, multiple > wives, etc... and named successive sons after themselves in later > generations. Sorting out my own direct line of my GtGtGrandfather Daniel > Shelton and his 4 wives in Fayette County took several months of effort and > research. Anyone desiring additional info on these Fayette County, IL, > Sheltons, cemetery directions, or some limited digital photos in Wilberton > Township, can contact me via direct e-mail and I will provide a text file of > the family in IL. Edward E. Mills, A Vandalia native now in Westford, MA. > edemills@aol.com >

Several books have been written about the Shelton family, including - The Sheltons, by Kathryn Morris Brown, tracing the family back to about 1100 in England. The Thomas Shelton Family in Early Virginia, by Frank H. Shelton, and A History of the Shelton Family in England and America, by Mildred Campbell Whitaker are all very useful in compiling the Shelton Family data. Mildred Campbell Whitaker traces the Shelton family from Virginia to Bermuda and back to England. According to her, the Sheltons were prominent in early English affairs, back to the time of the Barrons who forced King John to sign the Magna Carta, King William, the Conqueror, and beyond to one of the early Sheltons, Ralph Shelton of Norfolk, the Crusader. The Sheltons were definitely of English descent. My GtGrandmother was Sarah Angeline Shelton, daughter of Daniel Shelton and his 2nd of 4 wives, Mary Elizabeth Haislip. Sarah Angeline Shelton married William Allen Mills in 1869 in Fayette County and during 63 years of marriage, reared a family of 12 and two additional orphans. William Allen Mills, Sarah Mills, and Daniel Shelton, her father, are all buried in Wilberton Cemetery, Wilberton Twp., Fayette County. Daniel Shelton was the son of Rutherford Shelton and Elizabeth Mulliken, who married 1817, Gallatin County, KY. Rutherford Shelton married 3 times; his second wife was Elizabeth Cheshire whom he married in 1840, Fayette County, IL. There is a small long forgotten cemetery in Wilberton Township about a mile from the old Frogtown School... it sets out along the edge of a field... the Cheshire Cemetery. It probably holds about 20-25 stones still standing. It may have already been catalogued by the FCGS and published in earlier editions of Fayette Facts. When researching William Henry Harrison Shelton in Fayette... there were two. First, W.H.H. 1820-1898, son of Rutherford and Elizabeth Mulliken. This first W.H.H. married 1. Isabel Martin in 1843 in Fayette County, married 2. E.L. Matilda Sproull in 1877, Fayette County, IL, and he also had a brother... Daniel Shelton... noted above. The second W.H.H. Shelton 1859-1940, was a son of the Daniel Shelton noted above... and his 3rd of 4 wives... Catherine Elizabeth Shupe. This second W.H.H. married in 1882, Margaret Montgomery and was a 1/2 brother to my GtGrandmother, Sarah Angeline. This second W.H.H. Shelton died in Woods County, OK. This particular line of the Shelton Family probably came from England in the late 1600's and may be connected with further research with the aforementioned books. However, this Shelton direct line was first noted in Middlesex County, VA, then south into Pittsylvania County, VA, east to Gallatin County, KY, and then into Fayette County, IL. One connection of generations in VA/KY is lacking sufficient documentation to validate that Rutherford Shelton was the son of Daniel Shelton, Jr. and his wife, Martha Keatts, however, several of us researching this line over the years have come to the conclusion that he was the son of Daniel, Jr. Daniel Shelton Jr. 1764-1816 was the son of Daniel, Sr. and his wive Lettia Young, who married 1750 in Middlesex County, VA. Daniel, Sr. 1729-1809 was the son of Ralph Shelton 1685-1733 and Mary Crispen, who married approximately 1706, Middlesex County, VA. Ralph Shelton was the son of Peter Shelton 1664-1718 and his wife Susannah Jaxon (Jackson). The book The History of Pittsylvania County, VA holds a lot of data on this Shelton Family Line in the 1800's. Obviously, many of these generations of Sheltons had large families, multiple wives, etc... and named successive sons after themselves in later generations. Sorting out my own direct line of my GtGtGrandfather Daniel Shelton and his 4 wives in Fayette County took several months of effort and research. Anyone desiring additional info on these Fayette County, IL, Sheltons, cemetery directions, or some limited digital photos in Wilberton Township, can contact me via direct e-mail and I will provide a text file of the family in IL. Edward E. Mills, A Vandalia native now in Westford, MA. edemills@aol.com

Not in our family thanks anyway Katie leach

Hope this might help someone, I just got it sent to me. > > > > http://migrations.org > > > > This is a new site. Looks like it could develop into something good. > >

Just got this site also...maybe someone can find family here. > > > > Some in America and other countries.... > > Too many to mention... > > > > http://www.feefhs.org/masteri.html > > > > >

Thank you for your time. http://members.truepath.com/beverly/index.html Beverly (HIMES) BARGER FHC Librarian Volunteer in NM ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob McCollum <bobmac15@zianet.com> To: <ILFAYETT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2000 12:58 AM Subject: [ILFAYETT-L] MELTON > I don't know if he was any part of the MELTON family of Fayette County, but > he probably was related. There was a LONNIE MELTON that lived about a mile > south of Coffeen on the Red Ball Trail in Montgomery County. He was > probably ot the 1860-1880 vintage, as best I remember him. He had one son, > but I can't recall his name. The son left the Coffeen area around 60 years > ago or so - for where, I have no idea. He is most likely dead now -- if > he isn't, he is no doubt into his 90s. > Bob > > Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 17:27:58 -0500 > > From: "ccfut @gibralter.net" <ccfut@gibralter.net> > > To: ILFAYETT-L@rootsweb.com > > Message-ID: <002a01bf7803$ea546e20$d4d348c7@ccfut> > > Subject: [ILFAYETT-L] Linton-Melton-Dunn > > Content-Type: text/plain; > > charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > Anyone doing research on any of my families? Linton-Melton-Dunn > > Thanks,Doris >

I don't know if he was any part of the MELTON family of Fayette County, but he probably was related. There was a LONNIE MELTON that lived about a mile south of Coffeen on the Red Ball Trail in Montgomery County. He was probably ot the 1860-1880 vintage, as best I remember him. He had one son, but I can't recall his name. The son left the Coffeen area around 60 years ago or so - for where, I have no idea. He is most likely dead now -- if he isn't, he is no doubt into his 90s. Bob Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 17:27:58 -0500 > From: "ccfut @gibralter.net" <ccfut@gibralter.net> > To: ILFAYETT-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <002a01bf7803$ea546e20$d4d348c7@ccfut> > Subject: [ILFAYETT-L] Linton-Melton-Dunn > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > > Anyone doing research on any of my families? Linton-Melton-Dunn > Thanks,Doris

We don't have Illinois ones, but my husband Virgil BARGER has early DENNY in US married to BURNS. His ancestry is in the BARGER line link of our homepage. http://members.truepath.com/beverly/index.html Beverly (HIMES) BARGER ----- Original Message ----- From: George Shelton <zack@kanokla.net> To: <ILFAYETT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2000 5:32 PM Subject: [ILFAYETT-L] Martha Ann Denny mar. Caleb Bright > Does anyone have any DENNY surnames in their research? I would love to hear from you if you do. > > I am looking for Martha Ann Denny b. 16 Aug 1848 d. 27 Nov 1905 . I do not have any places of birth or death. Nor do I have any parents for her. Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > I thank you in advance for your help. > Tonya > ========================== > George, Tonya, and Zackery > zack@kanokla.net or tonya_george@yahoo.com > Faith means believing in advance what will only make sense in reverse. > > > >

Does anyone have any DENNY surnames in their research? I would love to hear from you if you do. I am looking for Martha Ann Denny b. 16 Aug 1848 d. 27 Nov 1905 . I do not have any places of birth or death. Nor do I have any parents for her. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I thank you in advance for your help. Tonya ========================== George, Tonya, and Zackery zack@kanokla.net or tonya_george@yahoo.com Faith means believing in advance what will only make sense in reverse.

Charles, I don't have MELTON that early. I think she was related somehow to the Fayette Co, IL MELTON. My maternal 3rd greats *Susan (MELTON) & *Chesley MCCORMACK's daughter Martha Ellen (MCCORMACK) LEATHERS DRAPER TATE lived in Fayette Co, IL and is buried there. MELTON was the maiden name of my 3rd great-grandmother *Susannah MELTON b.6 August 1829 __?IL?TN?MO?IND? d.abt 1866 Wayne Co, IL. *Susan married abt 1850 Wayne Co, IL *"Chesley" Charles Leifer MCCORMACK or MCCORMICK,(s/of *John & *Eliza), b.31 July 1832 Edwards Co, IL d.1890 Wayne Co, IL; *Chesley is buried Warren/New Church Cemetery Wayne Co, IL. *Chesley married #2 Sept 1866 Louisa J. AUSTIN. I don't know if he had children by Louisa J. AUSTIN; MELTON is a maternal line on my maternal grandmother *Janie Mae (STOGSDILL) MARSH's mother, my maternal great-grandmother *Rose Ann (LEATHERS) STOGSDILL side. My ancestry line with names, surnames, dates and localities is in the HIMES line link of our homepage http://members.truepath.com/beverly/index.html I am trying to find parents or siblings of *Susannah Jane MELTON; *Susan (MELTON) & *Chesley MCCORMACK/MCCORMICK's 11 children's names were; 1. My maternal 2nd great-grandmother *Sarah Jane MCCORMACK b.31 January 1851 Wayne Co, IL d.abt 1880 Wayne Co, IL buried ?Jacob's Chapel Cemetery married abt 1868 Wayne Co, IL *William M. LEATHERS; 2. Elizabeth Ann MCCORMACK b.27 March 1852 d.after 1904 married abt 1872 #1 Alfred MILLER; married abt 1901 #2 Anthony W. PENNINGTON; 3. Mary Polly MCCORMACK b.2 Nov 1853 d.abt 1925 married __#1 William H. JONES; married __ #2 Joe NICHOLS; 4. John E. MCCORMACK b.14 January 1855 d.29 May 1934 married 25 Feb 1886 Wayne Co, IL Artimissa Elizabeth BROWN; 5. Rosetta MCCORMACK b,5 Sept 1856 d.? married __ #1 Nathan LANE; married 22 May 1872 #2 Mike KAISER; 6. Margaret L. MCCORMACK b. 25 March 1858 d.?; 7. Mahulda MCCORMACK b. 7 October 1860 d.?; 8. Martha Ellen MCCORMACK b. 13 January 1863 d. 10 May 1933 Vandalia, Fayette Co, IL married 4 Aug 1878 Wayne Co, IL #1 George W. LEATHERS; maried abt 1881 #2 William Seward or Severt DRAPER; married #3 abt 1893 John S. TATE; 9. Emaline b. 3 August 1864 Wayne Co, IL d.abt 1930 Wayne Co, IL buried Jacob's Chapel. After her sister, my Sarah Jane died Emaline married 23 October 1880 Wayne Co, IL #1 William M. LEATHERS; married __#2 __BURKETT; 10. Susan MCCORMACK b. 8 May 1866 Wayne, IL d.?; 11. Daughter b.? d.?; Thank you for your time. Beverly (HIMES) BARGER ----- Original Message ----- From: Charles Crickman <crickman@erols.com> To: <ILFAYETT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2000 4:49 PM Subject: [ILFAYETT-L] Re: MELTON > I have a suspected connection with John MELTON b. abt 1766 who settled with > wife Susannah in Fayette Co by the 1830 census, after migrating from Caswell > Co, NC and Warren Co, KY. Any link to this Melton? > > Charles Crickman > Bethesa, MD > > ---------- > > Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 17:27:58 -0500 > From: "ccfut @gibralter.net" <ccfut@gibralter.net> > To: ILFAYETT-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <002a01bf7803$ea546e20$d4d348c7@ccfut> > Subject: [ILFAYETT-L] Linton-Melton-Dunn > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > > Anyone doing research on any of my families? Linton-Melton-Dunn > Thanks,Doris > >

Thanks Jerry for the info. Doris

My G-grandmother was Mary E. Dunn b. 3-21-1853 IL. (approx.) d.4-5-1889 buried in Meadors Cem.Vernon-Patoka Fayette Co. I believe her father was James B. Dunn from Ky. Mother- Delia Ann Ky. She married William Homer Melton 11-3-1870 The 1870 census puts them in Shobonier. Thanks for asking, Doris

I have a suspected connection with John MELTON b. abt 1766 who settled with wife Susannah in Fayette Co by the 1830 census, after migrating from Caswell Co, NC and Warren Co, KY. Any link to this Melton? Charles Crickman Bethesa, MD ---------- Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 17:27:58 -0500 From: "ccfut @gibralter.net" <ccfut@gibralter.net> To: ILFAYETT-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <002a01bf7803$ea546e20$d4d348c7@ccfut> Subject: [ILFAYETT-L] Linton-Melton-Dunn Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Anyone doing research on any of my families? Linton-Melton-Dunn Thanks,Doris