Hi listers I am once again calling on you for some help and advice. My mother met Fred(maybe Alfred) St. Gelais in Palm Beach County back in 1968-1969. She later became pregnant and then married someone who would care for her and the child. Last she heard about Fred was that he married another woman in Palm Beach County and later moved to Daytona Beach, Fl. He too had a daughter in 1969. My sister is desperately trying to find some information on her birth father(Fred). Mom said that his parents were from Ohio and that Fred was also in the Army before she met him. She said that he was about 25 year's old back in 1968-1969. Does anyone know how I would go about to get the marriage records or even look them up? I have done searches on the Internet for his name and there are no Fred's listed in any of the phone directories online. Please send me whatever advice you might have. I can't get his military records because I am not shure if he is still alive and I don't know his social security number either. He is not listed in the SSI death index too. Thanks for any help, Theresa Please respond to: Solarize@mindspring.com Tmann89414@homestead.com SURNAMES: Mann, Elliott, Prasse, Petaros(Petoros, Petros), Ahacic, Gnatkowski, Sandifer(Sandefur), Kopac(Kopacz) Horvatin, Samuels, Taylor, Keller, Sullender, Barbee, Mobley, Pelham

Please, this list is for Genealogy, only! While I do appreciate your dilemma (or your sisters) this just is not the place to do your search. Teresa (Terry) Davis, List owner. Solarize wrote: > Hi listers I am once again calling on you for some help and advice. My mother met Fred(maybe Alfred) St. Gelais in Palm Beach County back in 1968-1969. She later became pregnant and then married someone who would care for her and the child. Last she heard about Fred was that he married another woman in Palm Beach County and later moved to Daytona Beach, Fl. He too had a daughter in 1969. My sister is desperately trying to find some information on her birth father(Fred). Mom said that his parents were from Ohio and that Fred was also in the Army before she met him. She said that he was about 25 year's old back in 1968-1969. Does anyone know how I would go about to get the marriage records or even look them up? I have done searches on the Internet for his name and there are no Fred's listed in any of the phone directories online. Please send me whatever advice you might have. I can't get his military records because I am not shure if he is still alive and I don't know his socia! > l security number either. He is not listed in the SSI death index too. Thanks for any help, Theresa > Please respond to: > Solarize@mindspring.com > Tmann89414@homestead.com > SURNAMES: Mann, Elliott, Prasse, Petaros(Petoros, Petros), Ahacic, Gnatkowski, Sandifer(Sandefur), Kopac(Kopacz) Horvatin, Samuels, Taylor, Keller, Sullender, Barbee, Mobley, Pelham >

I've posted on this line in the past but thought there might be some new members out there who might have more info. 1.Daniel Davidson entered land in the same section as Valentine, Lemuel, Micajah and Simeon Pope in 1836. (South Hurricane, section 27) 2. Valentine Pope was married to Elizabeth Davidson. I cannot find Daniel on any subsequent Fayette County census. What happened to him and is he related to Elizabeth? Perhaps a brother? Thanks, Lynne

Hello, My husband's ggrandmother was Mary Dell Pontious who lived in Fayetter Co., IL. I have some info about her family. Do you have the name Mary in your data. Doris White Jerryblay@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 5/24/00 11:48:15 PM Central Daylight Time, Aero154@aol.com > writes: > > << Does anyone have any information on Peter Pontious? The only thing that I > know about him is that he had a son named John b. 1874. >> > > I have Peter G. Pontious, m. Angeline Schuck, Dec. 12, 1867, Fayette Co., IL > (she d.. Nov. 20 1876, Fayette Co., IL). Children: Amos Verne Pontious (b. > ca. 1868) and John E. Pontious (b. Aug 2, 1874). > > Jerry Blaylock

Isaac REEDER b. abt 1826 OH d. 21 Jan 1863 Lexington, KY m. 22 Feb. Shelby Co. IL, Maria HELMS b. 1832, OH d. 16 Sept. 1875 Shelby Co. IL 4 children: 1. James Barnett REEDER b. 26 Jun 1850 Shelby Co. IL d 1912 m. Isidora Viola 1871 had 9 children: Lara May b 1873 d 1942 William Wesley b 1877 d 1917 Shelbyville Ill. Mary Ellen b 1879 d 1963 Charles Franklin b 1881 d 1961 John Thomas Reeder b 1884 d 1939 George Ross b1886 d 1942 James Leroy 1891 d 1903 Marian Walter b 1894 d 1897 Josephine b 1898 d 1964 2. William Michael REEDER b. 27 Dec 1852, Fayette Co., IL 3. George Washington REEDER b. 26 Jul 1858 Fayette Co., IL m. Minnie HOPKINS 12 Sep. 1891 Mt. Ayr, Ringgold Co., IA 5 children : Ella Mae REEDER b.2 Feb. Mt. Ayr, Ringgold Co., IA Walter Joseph REEDER 25 Sep 1894 Pottawattamie Co.,Iowa Maude Bell Opal REEDER b. 1 Nov. 1896 Mills Co. Iowa Hazel Dell REEDER b. 17 Jan 1899 Elmwood, Cass, Nebraska Ralph REEDER b. 22 Aug. 1901 Elmwood, Cass, Nebraska 4. Mary Ellen REEDER b. 18 Mar. 1862 Shelby Co., IL m. Robert COFFMAN 30 Dec. 1885 Shelbyville, Shelby, IL Any help appreciated. Norma WInget Paul

Hello, Some information I have on Henry Lape. Henry Lape and Margaret Wolf went to Fayette Co., Illinois in 1849 from Fairfield Co., Ohio after the railroad gave them land. They build a log cabin on the land in the Wilberton section. Henry died in July 20, 1851 and the home went to Catherine and after her death in Jan 14, 1868 it went to her son Jeremiah W. Lape. This land is still owned by Forrest Lape children. A new house was builded in 1890. Other Lape's ( David, Henry Jeremiah )talso bought land, all around the Lape farm. On the corner of the farm is the Wilberton Cemetery where many Lapes are burial. Other family are Hammel, Pruett, Brown Conrad, Haynes, Luster and many others. Henry and Margaret children are: Samuel W. Married to Mary Ann Shupe Elizabeth W. Israel Conrad John Wilson Lovina Cole Henry W. Lucy Jane Haizlip Catherine W. Sophia W. Clifton Wills Jeremiah W. Mary Jane Jarrett Hope this will help. Betty Power BBPower@Worldnet.att.net

Interested in you e-mail that mentioned Mary Ann Shupe. What do you have on the Shupe family. My grandfather was supposedly a Shupe and changed his name. He married a Sidwell from Fayette county. I can not find one thing to connect them or his name change. Would appreciate any help. Donald Edward Shupe (changed to Loverde) married to Viola May Sidwell Shelton.(she was married to Daniel Shelton first.) I am really stumped on this one. His parents names were Francis (?) and Mary Ellen Turner. Thanks, Karen Motschall Haines City, Florida

Can you hear me jumping up & down & screaming? I'm so excited. Thank you, thank you. I had given up on William Chandler. I had thought he might be the husband of Louisa Brandon & my Adelia was his second wife but that was total speculation based on some census figures. I had no knowledge of Louisa Brandon Chandler dying. I had resigned myself to a wall until I remembered I had not checked through this list with others with Fayette Co. connections. I'm so glad I thought of it. I love having a brick wall unexpectantly burst through. I can't wait to share this with my family. My mother especially wanted to find out about the Radcliff & Chandler families since John Radcliff was her grandfather & William Chandler was her great-grandfather. I had given up hope on either of them. Thank you for taking the time to share. I hope your brick wall bursts through soon too. Now I'm going to take my time and go over your message letter by letter. Sincerely, Gwen Brooks Atlanta, GA

Gwen, I might be able to help you a little bit with the Chandlers even though this is not my direct line. Almira Chandler was the first wife of my g-grandfather, William Catobius. Almira and your William Chandler were cousins. Their fathers were brothers, children of Abraham Chandler & Nancy _______. I am down line from William Catobius' third wife Ruella Evans. I have a page 55-58 with a history of the Chandler family. I don't know the source of this article but from its layout it looks like it came from Fayette Facts. Maybe someone can find the original source of this article. My copy is a little hard to read, but it appears as follows: Abraham Chandler & Nancy ___________ Epinetus Chandler & Lucy Burright (not proven) William Chandler b. 24 Nov. 1825 in Ohio d. 13 April 1878 in Vandalia. He was in Bear Grove Twp. in 1860, a farmer living near the farm of Samuel Chandler. In 1870 he was living in the third ward in Vandalia and was the constable. He m(1) in Wabash Co., IN 27 June, 1850 to Rebecca Ann Meece, by whom he had 3 children; m(2) to Louisa Brandon, place not known, whom he had 3 children; m(3) in Fayette Co., to Adelia Louisa Nichols. Louisa Nichols said in the 1880 census that she was born in IN., both parents in NY. Louisa Brandon was born 7 Sept. 1834 in PA d 14 May 1874. William and his second wife, Louisa Brandon are buried in South Hill Cemetery in Vandalia, IL. Children of WILLIAM CHANDLER and REBECCA ANN MEECE Anna b 1851 in IN was in the 1860 census, m H.A. Masters, lived in Emporia City, Kansas in 1880, no other information Alonzo b ca 1852 m 10 Nov., 1878 to Mary J. Hineline. He was living with Anne and her husband in 1880, died in Kansas about 1904. James Chandler of Vandalia said that his parents went to Kansas to attend Alonzo's funeral, he thought in 1904. CHILDREN OF WILLIAM CHANDLER and LOUISA BARTON James Willard b 1855,Vandalia, d 1921 m 22 Sept., 1878 Anna Rummell, dau of Joseph Rummell, a Civil War Veteran. She was born 1859 d May, 1928. James lived in Vandalia, was a drayman in 1880. Mary A. b 1860 was working for the family of George Getches in 1880. She then went to Kansas with her brother and sister, Married an artist named Aaron Kilpatrick. They went to Morro Bay, California, no children. Robert Edward b 21 June, 1865 in Vandalia d 20 Jan., 1905 at Ramsey m 19 July, 1893 to Mary N. Grissom, dau of Elkanah Grissom. After the death of his father, he worked as a farm hand for Elkanah Grissom and that is when he met Mary. From there he went to Kansas to live with his brother, Alonzo for a time, then he returned to Fayette Co. He m. Mary Grissom 19 July 1893 in Fayette Co. She was born 26 March,1860 in Adair Co.., Ky. d 3 Aug, 1944 in Ramsey. When he died in 1905 he owned a hardware store in Ramsey. His wife continued to live in the same house until her death. CHILDREN OF WILLIAM CHANDLER and LOUISA NICHOLS Dora b ca 1876 d Aug., 1880 bur South Hill Cem, no stone Virgie b ca 1878 m ________ Radcliff, no other information. I hope this has been helpful. I know for a fact that my family knew the Chandlers because I have seen the Chandler name many times in my research. I, also, remember that Susie Evans was a witness at one of the Chandler. My brick wall is Alfred Evans b.1823 in TN, the father of Ruella Evans, m. Mary Margaret Loveless in 1841 in TN. Barb

--part1_24.597936b.2663ee09_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jerry, I found this e-mail address for someone who seems to have a lot of information on the Lape's in Fayette Co., IL Helen in Idaho BBPower@WORLDNET.ATT.NET --part1_24.597936b.2663ee09_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: <Jerryblay@aol.com> From: Jerryblay@aol.com Full-name: Jerryblay Message-ID: <7e.57daf52.2663de49@aol.com> Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 10:52:57 EDT Subject: Re: [ILFAYETT-L] Lape land purchases in Fayette Co. To: ILFAYETT-L@rootsweb.com CC: Heartsweetnana@cs.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 104 In a message dated 5/29/00 9:33:02 AM Central Daylight Time, Heartsweetnana@cs.com writes: << Would anyone happen to know who the father of Fahren LAPE is? He was born in Fayette Co., IL 1867. Married Emma Dell MOREY. >> Samuel Lape and Mary Ann Shupe. Please send me more information about this line and your lineage to it. Jerry Blaylock --part1_24.597936b.2663ee09_boundary--

Jerry....I have very little information on the Lape line , but I will give you what I have. He married into my direct line to Emma Dell MOREY, who is the daughter of Morris MOREY and Matilda ANDERSON. Fehren LAPE b. 1867 Fayette Co., IL d. 1945 Fayette Co., IL bur: Farmers Cem., Fayette, IL m. 21 Dec 1890 Fayette, IL spouse: Emma Dell MOREY b. 16 Mar 1873 Fayette Co., IL d. Apr 1943 Fayette Co., IL bur. Farmers Cem. , Fayette , IL Children: F.....Leora LAPE b. abt 1891 Fayette, IL m. Albert OLDHAM F.....Lucy LAPE b. abt 1893 Fayette, IL m. Dale ERVIN F.....Mabel LAPE b. abt 1895 Fayette, IL m. Roy RIEDLE M.....J.D. Elmer LAPE b. 1896 Fayette, IL d. 1919 bur. Farmers Cem., Fayette, IL F.....Vernice I. LAPE b. 1910 Fayette, IL d. 1920 IL bur. Farmers Cem., Fayette, IL Morris MOREY is my great grandfather. My line comes through his son Edward Blane MOREY [sp: Lura Gladys PERRY] then my mother Hazel Lorine MOREY. I grew up in a small town in IL, Boody, near Decatur. There were Blaylock's who lived there. Hope this helps some...... Helen in Idaho

In a message dated 5/29/00 9:33:02 AM Central Daylight Time, Heartsweetnana@cs.com writes: << Would anyone happen to know who the father of Fahren LAPE is? He was born in Fayette Co., IL 1867. Married Emma Dell MOREY. >> Samuel Lape and Mary Ann Shupe. Please send me more information about this line and your lineage to it. Jerry Blaylock

Would anyone happen to know who the father of Fahren LAPE is? He was born in Fayette Co., IL 1867. Married Emma Dell MOREY. Helen in Idaho

Hello, Jerry. Thank you for the response. According to the deed index the Lapes who purchased land were Henry, Samuel, Daniel, Sophia, John W., and Catherine. Dates of purchase ranged from 1851-1874. The Lape family from Ohio moved to Illinois around 1961-2, settled in Marion Co.There Nicholas J. Lape died in 1865. I'm unable to find a burial for him, His wife was Elizabeth Rogers Lape. Since he had nine brothers and sisters( I have no names) I thought perhaps the Fayette Co. Lapes might be related. Any clues? Bee

Another family I have from Fayette Co. is the Radcliff family. Again this information was passed to my mother by a cousin Hazel Radcliff Stowe in 1995. I don't think I've added anything to this at all other than info. on my immediate line. Virdia Lydia Chandler(daughter of Milo Nichols-see Nichols post)b. Aug. 7, 1878 m. John William Radcliff June 29, 1896 in Salem, MO (IL?) John William was born March 28, 1871 in Washington(Twnship?Co?)(IL?IN?). Virdia (Birdie) died Nov. 17,1959 in St. Joseph Hospital, St. Charles, Missouri and is buried in Mt. Carmel Cemetery, Fayette Co. IL. John (Jack) died May 30, 1936 in Vandalia and I assume is also buried in Mt. Carmel. Their Children: Orie Arthur, b. May 13, 1897 d. March 1973 Romona, CA. m. Frances Mills, Decatur IL William Milo, b. Dec. 23, 1899 St. Elmo, IL, d. March 23, 1970 Ft. Myers, FL. m. Elsie Louisa Scribner, Decatur, IL Claude Edward, b. June 6, 1902, Marion, IL., d. July 29, 1991 St. Louis, MO. m. Beulah Jones, Vandalia, IL Ethel M., b. 1904 d. 1917. Roy Harold, b. Oct. 13, 1907, St. Elmo, d. Dec 3, 1975 Ft. Myers, FL m. Cora Mae Carson, Vandalia Louis Chandler, b. March 4, 1912, St. Elmo. d. Oct. 24, 1995 Macon, GA. m. Polly Keller Jones, Seale AL (they eloped from Taylor Co., GA across the state line) I'm descended from Louis Chandler. He was my grandfather. My mother does not know anything about her grandparents Virdia & John Radcliff. Her father Louis ran away from home as a boy and never contacted the family until mid 1980s. We would like to learn more about them. Does anyone know this family? Does anyone know where John (Jack) Radcliff might have been from. Or could anyone access local newpapers to maybe get me a copy of obituaries for my great grandparents? Or any records would be helpful. Thank you for your help. Gwen Brooks Atlanta, GA

I thought I would share my Fayette Co. connections and see if anyone recognizes this family. This family information was originally passed to my mother by a cousin, Hazel Radcliff Stowe in 1995. I've since added to it. The first ancestor I have in Fayette is Milo Nichols b. March 31, 1815 in Aurora, NY, d. April 4, 1878 in Sefton Townshiip & is buried in Mt. Carmel Cemetery in Sefton Township. Milo married July 29, 1841 in Indiana, Lydia Gibbs, b. December 28, 1822 in Perry, NY, d. unk. in Sefton Township & buried Mt. Carmel. The family moved to Vandalia bet. 1851 & 1857. Children: Electra, b. July 22, 1842 IN, d. May 19, 1927 Sefton Township,IL m. Thomas Rigdon in IL Lucien Chester, Dec. 4, 1843 IN, d. Aug. 24, 1864 Andersonville Prison, GA Mary J., Dec. 16, 1846 IN, d. Dec. 6, 1874, Gainesville, GA m. Early Rogers in Cumming, GA Adelia L., June 20, 1849 IN, d. Nov. 1930 Sefton Township, IL m. William Chandler in Vandalia, IL Eliza, 1850 IN John Wesley, April 16, 1851 IN, d. Nov. 16, 1909 Fayette Co., IL m. Carrie Cheney in Fayette Co., IL Hirman M., February 1, 1857 Vandalia, IL d. Sept. 2, 1857 Vandalia Genevra, Jan. 5, 1859 Vandalia, IL, d. Sept. 8, 1938 Otego Twnship IL,m. Henry P. Drake Lena Leota, July 24, 1862 Vandalia, IL, d. Nov. 26, 1879 Vandalia The family is found in 1850 Census Tipton County, Indiana, Jefferson Township, Roll 176, Page 275, Dated August 21st 1850 Milo Nichols 35, Farmer, Value RE: $400 Born: NY Lydia, 27 Born: NY Electa, 8 Born: IN Lucian, 6 Born: IN Mary, 4 Born: IN Adelia, 1 Born: IN --------------------------- I'm descended from Adelia Louisa m. to William Chandler.I don't know where William came from (does anyone?) but they married Feb.21, 1875. William was born abt. 1826 and died April 13, 1878 in Vandalia. He's probably buried in Mt. Carmel Cemetery as is Adelia. Children: Dora M., b. Jan. 5, 1876, d. Aug. 14, 1880 in Fayette Co. Virdia Lydia, b. Aug. 7, 1878, m. John William Radcliff June 29, 1896, d. Nov. 17, 1959 in St. Charles Missouri. She is buried in Mt. Carmel Cemetery & I assume he is also. More about the Radcliffs in the next post. Adelia remarried to David E. bissonette May 3, 1888 and they had a son Sydney, birthday unknown. Here's Adelia's Obituary passed down in family records, no newspaper named: "Mrs. Adelia Bissonette, 81 years old died Monday morning about three c'clock at her home in Sefton Township of cerebro hemorrhage. The funeral was held in Mt. Carmel Church near her home yesterday morning at 10 o'clock, conducted by Rev. Neisler of Loogootee. Burial was in Mt. Carmel Cemetery. Mrs. Bissonette was born in Indiana, June 20, 1849. She was first married to William Chandler on Feb. 5, 1875, and after his death she married daniel E. Bissonette, who survives her. They have lived on a farm in Sefton Township for about 25 years. One son Sidney C., lives in Macon, and one daughter Mrs. Birdie L. Radcliff, lives near Vera. She has eleven grandchildren and six great grandchildren, also a living sister, Mrs. Phoebe Gross, and a host of friends wherever she has lived, being a motherly, kind and sympathetic Christian neighbor." ---------------------------- Does anyone know anything about this family and the area they lived in? I'm really wanting to find William Chandler's origins. His marriage record to Lydia unfortunately doesn't list where he came from. If anyone has a tie to William please let me know. And if anyone has anymore information about Milo and Lydia's family, I'd love to hear from you. Sincerely, Gwen Brooks Atlanta, GA

Helen,Thank you so much. The information will be added to my files. No apparent link yet, but those listed could be the children of those I seek. Bee

Hello, I'm new to this list and hopeful that there will be someone with whom I can exchange information. The Lapes purchased large amounts of land in Fayette Co. during the latter 1800s. I'm hoping to link them to the Lapes in Marion Co. If there is anyone with information on this Lape surname, I'd surely appreciate hearing from you. Thank you.Bee

In a message dated 5/24/00 11:48:15 PM Central Daylight Time, Aero154@aol.com writes: << Does anyone have any information on Peter Pontious? The only thing that I know about him is that he had a son named John b. 1874. >> I have Peter G. Pontious, m. Angeline Schuck, Dec. 12, 1867, Fayette Co., IL (she d.. Nov. 20 1876, Fayette Co., IL). Children: Amos Verne Pontious (b. ca. 1868) and John E. Pontious (b. Aug 2, 1874). Jerry Blaylock

Does anyone have any information on Peter Pontious? The only thing that I know about him is that he had a son named John b. 1874. I have no dates for Peter. Anything would be a great help. Thankyou, Kim Robinett Aero154@aol.com