Dianne and Gary especially -- Guthrie link: Albert Guthrie (1 May 1884 /14 May 1973) m Ottie Evans (14 Ju 1892 / 18 Jun 1957) in 1910 In the 1900 Census, Carson Twp, Albert GUTHRIE "lodger" with John and Zella Bolt. His parents were shown as born in IL, as Albert was. My mother tells me that Albert's father was William Guthrie, his siblings were John, Tom, Ed, and Jennie (Sluder). Diane: This info connects with your William GUTHRIE married to Emily BOAZ, with children Albert, Edmond, John, Mary Jane (m SLUDER), and Thomas. Gary: A semi-connect with your Mary Ann (Polly) GUTHRIE -- in the 1880 IL census, Bowling Green Twp, Fayette County: 1 Jackson GUTHRIE (62) with wife Mary L. (56) were both born in KY as was your Polly. children: Albert (30); Cynthia (22), John F. (22) --- TWINS?? Samuel (21) and a grandson, Willie Fleming (7) Some children born in KY and some in IL. Jackson was born in 1818 which could make him a possible brother to Polly, born 1803 in Cumberland Co, KY. 2 Carlin GUTHRIE (38) with wife Mary (25) were both born in IL. His parents were born in KY and hers in TN -- maybe Jackson & Mary's son?? chidlren: Alice (4) and Oscar (2) Hope this is of some help to you. Sorry I didn't record the page numbers of the census, but Uncle Albert GUTHRIE is a by-marriage uncle. I am working on his children, however, and expect more from his daughter Doris JONES in St.Elmo. His four children are my 1st cousins, one generation removed. Maybe we have some more "connects" out there for these GUTHRIE records? Isn't the net great! I have connected with several of my Fayette County NICHOLS cousins on-line. Let's keep on talking!! Margie Whitney ([email protected])

In reply to the following message: ' trying to find information on Francis Elmer Metcalf born in Fayette, ILL on May 4,1886. He was called Frank by everone. His obituary read son of Mr. & Mrs. John Metcalf. His siblings were ......William O., Roy,Pearl,Eva Metcalf. Roy m Rosie____,Eva m William Hobbs and they lived in Chicago,IL most of their marriage...Roy and Rosie lived around East End, Crawford County,MO.....Jacob Metcalf maybe related to Francis and I am trying to prove and check on this....Jacob was born June 20, 1826 Wayne Fayette County Marriages Vol.2 Jacob Metcalf 66 common laborer, 2nd marriage, resident Vandalia born Wayne County, Ohio, parents George Metcalf and Tabiatha Ayres and Maggie CASEY 49, 2nd marriage res Vandalia born Madison Co.,Ky, parents Jackson Hall and Nancy A. Abrams, married 13 May, 1896 at Vandalia. Book B 46. Jacob's children (1st wife Mary WATSON or WILSON) include: George age 23 married Nellie Smith age 19 on 18 July 1886 J.H. age 32 married Hannah Smith age 29 on 5 Sept 1882 Jas. D. age 21 married Mary J. Hankins age 17 on 26 Mar 1882 Judith Cameron Lanclos Highland, CA

Hi Martha, Your names sound just like mine. Nowlin, Schulte,Nichols, Lay, Guthrie, and Wren. You have any Boaz or Curry in your tree?? Dianne

Hi I trying to find information on Francis Elmer Metcalf born in Fayette, ILL on May 4,1886. He was called Frank by everone. His obituary read son of Mr. & Mrs. John Metcalf. His siblings were ......William O., Roy,Pearl,Eva Metcalf. Roy m Rosie____,Eva m William Hobbs and they lived in Chicago,IL most of their marriage...Roy and Rosie lived around East End, Crawford County,MO.....Jacob Metcalf maybe related to Francis and I am trying to prove and check on this....Jacob was born June 20, 1826 Wayne Co. Ohio and died on August 14,11910.If anyone can help me with information on my information, it would be so helpful.....I'm new to the net and computor, so if anyone has any suggestions, please let me know....Thanks Sharon

Dianne -- on your trip to Vandalia, can you please find out if they have a probate index for the 1870's thru XXX? And if so, how much would a copy cost, roughly to include the names NICHOLS, NICHOLAS, EVANS...... I believe this type info could be helpful to other Fayette researchers also. Next subject: Names that I have in my Fayette files include NICHOLS NICHOLAS EVANS FUNDERBURK WREN DeBUSK (Ramsey & Carson/Bowling Green Twp areas) dating back as early as 1830's and (St. Elmo area) SCHUETZ LAY NOWLIN GUTHRIE FAIRCHILD GILLESPIE PHILLIPS dating back to early 1900's Would be glad to share with other Fayette researchers. Margie Whitney (Cocoa, FL) [email protected]

Dianne -- just learning about this facet of the WWW and delighted to see so much interaction among former FAYETTE COUNTY folks! Your message listing GUTHRIE connects with my EVANS family. ALBERT GUTHRIE son of Wm Guthrie m OTTIE EVANS dau of James B. EVANS (my ggrandfather and sister of my grandmother Carrie EVANS LAY Would be glad to exchange info directly. Working on getting more Guthrie info from Albert's daughter in St.Elmo. Please e-mail me at [email protected] Will post my other Fayette surnames soon. Very interesting to see all the names I remember from long long ago! Let's ALL keep on postin'. Margie

Judith and Dianne and others, I am the one who posted the original message about Sidwells and Guthries. My ancestors are David Sidwell, born circa 1801 in Cumberland County, KY who married Mary Ann (Polly) Guthrie, born circa 1803 in Cumberland County, KY. They were married circa 1825 in Cumberland County, then moved to Fayette County, IL. David and Mary Ann moved to Davis County, IA in the 1840s. One of their children was Margret Sidwell, born October 27, 1835 in Fayette County. She married Conrad Moots Tharp in Davis County in February 1858. They are my gg grandparents. I have David as the son of William Sidwell and Mary Key. I show his siblings as Polly A., Lucinda, William, Amanda, Nathan, Mahala, Isaac Denton, Anne Elizabeth and Rebecca. I would like confirmation of that which is correct and correction on that which is wrong if anyone has information. I know there were several Sidwell/Guthrie marriages, but I know nothing of Mary Ann's parentage and which of the Guthries are siblings, if any. Help here would be appreciated. Fayette County information is rather sparse here in Iowa. Many thanks. Gary -------------------- Gary Morrison 722 SE Peterson Drive Ankeny, Iowa 50021-3468 (515) 964-3806 [email protected] Genealogy Report: http/www.familytreemaker.com/users/m/o/r/Gary-L-Morrison/index.html Researching: BAKER, BLAKELY, BUCK, CARTER, CHITWOOD, COGHLAN, DAHLSTROM, DAVIS, DEMPSEY, DODD, DUNCAN, ELDER, FARR, FINNEY, FORSYTH(E), FUNK, GUTHRIE, IDDINGS, KEY, KNOX, LEEPER, LUTTRELL, McKAY, McKINLEY, McGINNIS, MOOTS, MORRISON, PARKER, PATTERSON, ROBERTSON, SEXTON, SIDWELL, TATE, THARP, THOMPSON, WATERHOUSE, WILLIAMS, WYNNE/WYNN/WINN, ZIMMERMAN --------------------

Hi, I got your letter asking for me to check on Sidwell and Guthrie. I have Sidwells and Guthries in my tree. Allen Guthrie m Mahala Sidwell William Guthrie m Emily Boaz ch-Albert, Edmond, John, Mary Jane (m Thomas Newton Sluder), Thomas, David Guthrie m Betsy May Pruett Irwin Guthrie m Eleanor Curry Nancy Guthrie m Richard Austin Nathan Sidwell m Anna___ ) 1st ch--Abraham Sidwell m 1)Cynthia A. Pickens 2) Martha Ann Pickens-(ch--of Nathan and Martha Ann Pickens--Abraham Carter Sidwell (m Serepta Louisa Boaz) ch Abraham and Serepta- Gertrude Sidwell m Clyde Hooker; Octavia Sidwell; Johnny Sidwell m Elsie May Davis;(ch Cecil Sidwell---Lorraine Sidwell---Vivian Sidwell----Wayne Sidwell--Zola Sidwell--- 2nd child Eleanor Sidwell m 1)Samuel Sefton 2) Horace Jones Amanda Sidwell m James Dobbs David Sidwell m ? ch-- Clem Sidwell, Geprge Sidwell, Irvin Sidwell, James Sidwell, Stephen Sidwell (m Myrtle Carman); William Sidwell (m Eliza Williams); Wm Sidwell m ? ch Isaac Sidwell (m Lavina Guthrie) John Sidwell m Elizabeth Sefton ch--Louisa Jane Sidwell m Jesse L. Ligenfelter Lucinda Sidwell m Moses Beck Nathan Sidwell m Dolly Diveley Paul Sidwell m Sharon Carson Rebecca Sidwell m Nathanial Nowlin Sophronia Sidwell m 1) Elden J. Durbin 2) John Ledbetter This is what I have in my files. Does it match any of your ancestors? I will still look for other info on them. Dianne

Looking for a second marriage for Elizabeth A (Dunn) Needham some time after 1863. Also looking for any thing about her 3 sons born after that date. Edwin Needham, Eugene Needham, and William Needham. All carry the name of supposed father but our records show William, husband of Eliz as dying in Civil War before these boys were born. Vandalia is the listed residance of Eliz and boys in 1870 and 1880. Thanks for any thing you might see. Annemaire

Dianne., I hope it is not too late to ask for a look up. If time permits I would really appreciate if you could look up the GRAY family. My grandmother was born 13, Feb. 1884 in Lowden, Fayette, IL. Her father was either John or Charles GRAY from PA. The only member of this family I have ever found information for was her sibling Charles Brady GRAY. Thanks, Dolores >

Judith Lanclos--Just wanted to let you know how appreciated your info was. Sort of peculiar. I was just going through Enlow info today - so you hit home, even if not with reference to Bird Kiterman... Any help I can give you in Iowa area? Barbara Kitterman Shepherd [email protected]

Dianne, While you are in the library be on the lookout for Wyatt Estes. He was born in Tenn in 1832. Married Polly (Mary?) Allen. She was born 1836 in Fayette Co, IL. Eight children, Hiram, William, Isabel, Cathering, John, james, DAvid and Rebecca. All children born in Fayette Co. Rebecca was my great Grandma, married to Charles Augustus Dayhoff. Good luck. Jan

Hi, Could you be on the lookout for Lemuel Williams. He married a Florence Edna Durbin in Fayette Co. (not sure of the year). They were my husband's great grand parents. Thanks, Doris White

Marriage records of Fayette County: Isaac Sidwell and Lavina Guthry, license 7 Nov.,1829, both of age, married 21 Nov. 1829. David Sidwell swore from family records that Lavina was over 18. Certificate says married 15 Nov.,1829 (Book Old A, p. 4, l.18) There are a number of marriage records from the late 1840's and 1850's. Also numerous census records. Let me know if you would like to trace any particular part of the family. Judith Cameron Lanclos Highland, CA

Dianne, I am new to the list, but my ancestors were named MATHENY. I will write a longer query for the group later when my daughter lets me use my computer again. Mary McGuire [email protected] Mary, There are many Matheny records starting with the marriage of C.F.W. Matheny and Aramanty Taylor on 2 Sept, 1837. Let me know which ones you are tracing, and I will check the census and marriage records for you. Judith Cameron Lanclos Highland, CA

If you come across the surname Kitterman, I would appreicate any records.... I am specifically looking for Bird Kitterman (born 1826-1839---depending on who you look at!/ Died in Missouri in 1903) & Amanda Melinda Ray, his wife, who was born - she thinks in Illinois -. Amanada's mother was Emma Pricilla Wood of Ohio, birthdate 2/22/1855. Her father was Eli Ray born in Franklin Co., Illinois on 6/27/1848. There's: John S.C. Kitterman 27 farmer 2nd marriage res Bowling Green b Brown Co., Ohio, parents S. Kitterman and Sarah Ross, married Chana ENLOW 21 on 13 July 1884 (A 135) In the 1880 Census Ramsey TWP, p. 36 268 KETTERMAN, Geo.M M 45 farmer d Ohio Pa Ohio {the "d" is for divorced} Don't see the name-either spelling- in any other census, but I only have part of the 1900 Fayette. Judith Cameron Lanclos Highland, CA

Diane, If you run across anything on Sidwell and Guthrie I would appreciate having it. Thanks. Gary -------------------- Gary Morrison 722 SE Peterson Drive Ankeny, Iowa 50021-3468 (515) 964-3806 [email protected] Genealogy Report: http/www.familytreemaker.com/users/m/o/r/Gary-L-Morrison/index.html Researching: BAKER, BLAKELY, BUCK, CHITWOOD, COGHLAN, DAHLSTROM, DAVIS, DEMPSEY, DODD, DUNCAN, ELDER, FARR, FINNEY, FORSYTH(E), FUNK, GUTHRIE, IDDINGS, KNOX, LEEPER, LUTTRELL, McKAY, McKINLEY, McGINNIS, MOOTS, MORRISON, PARKER, PATTERSON, ROBERTSON, SEXTON, SIDWELL, TATE, THARP, THOMPSON, WATERHOUSE, WILLIAMS, WYNNE/WYNN/WINN, ZIMMERMAN --------------------

Dianne, I am new to the list, but my ancestors were named MATHENY. I will write a longer query for the group later when my daughter lets me use my computer again. Mary McGuire [email protected] ---------- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Vandalia Trip > Date: Tuesday, November 04, 1997 11:45 AM > > Hi everyone, > I will be looking for information at the library so if there is a name you > want me to watch for go ahead and send it -I'm not making any promises but if > I come across anything I will copy it and let you know. I have copied the two > letters I have already received from Jroots and Carol. I will do the best I > can for you. > Any other requests??? > Dianne

Hi Dianne, If you come across the surname Kitterman, I would appreicate any records.... I am specifically looking for Bird Kitterman (born 1826-1839---depending on who you look at!/ Died in Missouri in 1903) & Amanda Melinda Ray, his wife, who was born - she thinks in Illinois -. Amanada's mother was Emma Pricilla Wood of Ohio, birthdate 2/22/1855. Her father was Eli Ray born in Franklin Co., Illinois on 6/27/1848. Thanks!!!

Hi everyone, I will be looking for information at the library so if there is a name you want me to watch for go ahead and send it -I'm not making any promises but if I come across anything I will copy it and let you know. I have copied the two letters I have already received from Jroots and Carol. I will do the best I can for you. Any other requests??? Dianne