Matt Thank you for your help. I ask for help on this Effingham link, and I got several responses the same day, more the next. All of you have been so very nice. I only hope someday I may be able to help someone like myself. I may have cause to ask more info in the future, if you don't mind. I'm in my 70's and am getting a late start not only on trying to put together a family tree, but also how to use a PC. Late bloomer I guess. Thanks again. John

Oh yes, John....my mistake, you said Mary Ellen Marion was your grandmother. Linda's closer than me on the time frame estimate....your grandmother surely would have been born in the 1880's or 1890's at the latest....going back about 110-120 years. I was thinking of someone about the age of your mother when I mentioned 90 years. My apologies. Matt Smallwood On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 00:19:42 -0700 "Linda Lambert" <ktlkate@extremezone.com> wrote: > I don't have a lot of research resources here at home, > that's why I was > holding off on this. I checked the 1880 census for the > surnames Holler and > Marion. There are several Marion families, but I didn't > find a young lady > by the name of Mary Ellen Elizabeth Marion. I also > checked for possible > misspellings of both surnames. > > I also checked the 1890 tax lists, and the 1900 census. > No luck there > either. > > Perhaps if you give me the dates of birth (or approximate > dates) if we add > about 15-20 years, I can look for a marriage record in > Effingham County. > > Do you know where they died? I don't have many cemetery > records here, but > the ladies from the Effingham County genealogy society > have many more > records available there than I do here (I live in Arizona > and my research > library is good, but limited). > > Linda (cousin to Matt Smallwood).........thanks for the > hand-off Matt <grin> > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: thehinge@magpage.com [mailto:thehinge@magpage.com] > Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 11:53 PM > To: ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ILEFFING-L] Grandparents > > Here's the first thing I might suggest, John. Do you > know > what county your grandmother was born in, as well as the > approximate year? If you're 70, assume you have to go > back > about 90 years to find her on any census in Illinois...or > any other state for that matter. There's a good starting > point....find her in a census. > > > If it's a county close to you, spend some time looking > for > her in the census that you believe she may appear. Many > historical societies have old censuses on microfilm...and > even better it would scanned to digital form. You may > get > lucky and see here name and age mentioned in the > household > of your great-grandparents. From there, perhaps you can > find her birth certificate in the same county. Of > course, > this assuming the family didn't move freqently. And the > county didn't lose records. > > Anyone else have some suggestions? Surely, you do, > cousin > Linda....you have a lot more experience than I. heh heh. > > Matt Smallwood > > > > On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 12:57:42 EST > Dusty1930@aol.com wrote: > > I am new to this, so hope I am doing this right. I am > > trying to find out > > something on my Holler grand parents. My grand father's > > name was Walter William > > Holler, born in Mason, IL, Effingham Co. I know nothing > > about my grandmother, > > except her name, Mary Ellen Elizabeth Marion. I am in > my > > 70's and met only one > > of my grandparents when I was real young. All of my > > family, with the exception > > of my sister are gone now, so I have no one to ask. Any > > help on this or how to > > get help, I sure could use Thank you John > > > > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe > from > > it, send e-mail to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or > > (for the > > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put > the > > word subscribe or > > unsubscribe in the message body. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Web mail provided by NuNet, Inc. The Premier National > provider. > http://www.nni.com/ > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from > it, send e-mail to > ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the > word subscribe or > unsubscribe in the message body. > > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from > it, send e-mail to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or > (for the > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the > word subscribe or > unsubscribe in the message body. > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Web mail provided by NuNet, Inc. The Premier National provider. http://www.nni.com/

You're welcome, Linda...you're so experienced at these types of searches. Have you ever found information like d.o.b., date of marriage, etc....and your starting point only knowing a relative's approximate age and place of residence? So, do you have Effingham County censuses in digital form or did you make copies on a trip to Illinois? The marriage certificate search did occur to me afterwards also. Talk to ya soon, Matt On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 00:19:42 -0700 "Linda Lambert" <ktlkate@extremezone.com> wrote: > I don't have a lot of research resources here at home, > that's why I was > holding off on this. I checked the 1880 census for the > surnames Holler and > Marion. There are several Marion families, but I didn't > find a young lady > by the name of Mary Ellen Elizabeth Marion. I also > checked for possible > misspellings of both surnames. > > I also checked the 1890 tax lists, and the 1900 census. > No luck there > either. > > Perhaps if you give me the dates of birth (or approximate > dates) if we add > about 15-20 years, I can look for a marriage record in > Effingham County. > > Do you know where they died? I don't have many cemetery > records here, but > the ladies from the Effingham County genealogy society > have many more > records available there than I do here (I live in Arizona > and my research > library is good, but limited). > > Linda (cousin to Matt Smallwood).........thanks for the > hand-off Matt <grin> > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: thehinge@magpage.com [mailto:thehinge@magpage.com] > Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 11:53 PM > To: ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ILEFFING-L] Grandparents > > Here's the first thing I might suggest, John. Do you > know > what county your grandmother was born in, as well as the > approximate year? If you're 70, assume you have to go > back > about 90 years to find her on any census in Illinois...or > any other state for that matter. There's a good starting > point....find her in a census. > > > If it's a county close to you, spend some time looking > for > her in the census that you believe she may appear. Many > historical societies have old censuses on microfilm...and > even better it would scanned to digital form. You may > get > lucky and see here name and age mentioned in the > household > of your great-grandparents. From there, perhaps you can > find her birth certificate in the same county. Of > course, > this assuming the family didn't move freqently. And the > county didn't lose records. > > Anyone else have some suggestions? Surely, you do, > cousin > Linda....you have a lot more experience than I. heh heh. > > Matt Smallwood > > > > On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 12:57:42 EST > Dusty1930@aol.com wrote: > > I am new to this, so hope I am doing this right. I am > > trying to find out > > something on my Holler grand parents. My grand father's > > name was Walter William > > Holler, born in Mason, IL, Effingham Co. I know nothing > > about my grandmother, > > except her name, Mary Ellen Elizabeth Marion. I am in > my > > 70's and met only one > > of my grandparents when I was real young. All of my > > family, with the exception > > of my sister are gone now, so I have no one to ask. Any > > help on this or how to > > get help, I sure could use Thank you John > > > > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe > from > > it, send e-mail to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or > > (for the > > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put > the > > word subscribe or > > unsubscribe in the message body. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Web mail provided by NuNet, Inc. The Premier National > provider. > http://www.nni.com/ > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from > it, send e-mail to > ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the > word subscribe or > unsubscribe in the message body. > > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from > it, send e-mail to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or > (for the > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the > word subscribe or > unsubscribe in the message body. > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Web mail provided by NuNet, Inc. The Premier National provider. http://www.nni.com/

Good job, Wanda. Illinois death index ... Walter Holler died Effingham Co. Mason Twp. 9-3-1924

I enjoy a good search! Wanda Ancestry.com census pages 1930 Watson Twp, Effingham Co, IL William F. Marion 79 m at age 24 b IL parents b IL Anna E. Marion 73 m at age 29 b IL fb IN mb IL James F. Marion son 41 married b IL Russel Holler g'son 10 b IL 1920 Census taken Jan 19, 1920 Edgewood, Mason Twp, Effingham Co, IL All are born IL parents born IL Walter W. Holler 33 laborer Ella 36 Raymond B. 11 John W. 7 Ester L. 5 1910 Census taken May 5, 1910 Watson Village, Watson Twp, Effingham Co, IL All born IL parents b IL, except Anna All listed as sons & dtrs MARION household William 50 m once 34 yrs Anna 53 m once 34 yrs, 9 births 8 living, b IL fb KY mb IN Joseph 24 Single laborer James 21 single laborer Edith 18 single Oliver 16 single laborer Otho (male) 12 HOLLER, Ellen (dtr) 26 widow HOLLER, Raymond 1 11/12 1910, Riley Holler 22 single is listed as a servant in the hh of John P. Gilmore in West Twp, Effingham Co, IL Look for marriage of Ellen Marion to Mr Holler abt 1908 and Ellen Holler to Walter Holler abt 1912. Unfortunately, I can't find Walter Holler in the 1900, 1910 or 1930 census. 1900 Union Twp, Effingham Co, June 9-12, 1900 William Marion 49 b Dec 1850 m 24 yrs, b IL parents birthplace blank Anna wife 42 b June 1857 m 24 yrs 9 births 8 living, b IL fb IN mb IN Robert M son 18 b July 1881 Ellen dtr 16 b Nov 1883 Joseph S. son 14 b Oct 1885 James F son 11 b Aug 1888 Edith dtr 8 b Aug 1891 Oliver son 6 b May 1894 Otha son 2 b Jan 1898 World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 Draft Card H, No 3 Name Birth Date Race Birthplace Walter Holler b 22 Oct 1887 Caucasian Edgewood, Illinois Registration Place Edgewood,Effingham,IL He is tall, slender, has blue eyes and dark hair, age 29 at date of registration and has a wife and 3 children, day laborer Date of registration June 5, 1917 Draft Card A-726 John Riley Holler b 23 Jul 1884 age 34 White Not Stated, Effingham, IL Employed by C. E. Williams in Marshall Co, IL Nearest relative Mrs Mary Holler, Edgewood, Effingham Co, IL Medium height, medium build, gray eyes, dark hair Date of registration Sept 12, 1918 1880 William and Anna Marion are boarders in the home of Robert Younghoun in Union Twp, Effingham Co, IL. They have dtr Jane Marion age 1. Illinois Statewide Marriage Index, 1763-1900 MARION, WILLIAM BRADBURY, ANA 03/01/1876 00B/0101 EFFINGHAM Name Home in 1870 (City, County, State) Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Race Gender James Marion Watson, Effingham, IL abt 1830 Illinois White Male Mary Marion Watson, Effingham, IL abt 1836 Maryland White Female Tho Marion Watson, Effingham, IL abt 1852 Illinois White Male * Wm Marion Watson, Effingham, IL abt 1855 Illinois White Male Jacob Marion Watson, Effingham, IL abt 1856 Indiana White Female Eliza Marion Watson, Effingham, IL abt 1862 Illinois White Male Alford Marion Watson, Effingham, IL abt 1866 Illinois White Female Sam Marion Watson, Effingham, IL abt 1866 Illinois White Male Allice Marion Watson, Effingham, IL abt 1868 Illinois White Female 1850 James Marrion is 21 b IL living with his mother Elizabeth age 51 b IN. James' siblings are Richard, John & Martha. 1840 Richard Marion is listed in Effingham Co, IL -----Original Message----- From: Linda Lambert [mailto:ktlkate@extremezone.com] Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 1:20 AM To: ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [ILEFFING-L] Grandparents I don't have a lot of research resources here at home, that's why I was holding off on this. I checked the 1880 census for the surnames Holler and Marion. There are several Marion families, but I didn't find a young lady by the name of Mary Ellen Elizabeth Marion. I also checked for possible misspellings of both surnames. I also checked the 1890 tax lists, and the 1900 census. No luck there either. Perhaps if you give me the dates of birth (or approximate dates) if we add about 15-20 years, I can look for a marriage record in Effingham County. Do you know where they died? I don't have many cemetery records here, but the ladies from the Effingham County genealogy society have many more records available there than I do here (I live in Arizona and my research library is good, but limited). Linda (cousin to Matt Smallwood).........thanks for the hand-off Matt <grin> -----Original Message----- From: thehinge@magpage.com [mailto:thehinge@magpage.com] Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 11:53 PM To: ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ILEFFING-L] Grandparents Here's the first thing I might suggest, John. Do you know what county your grandmother was born in, as well as the approximate year? If you're 70, assume you have to go back about 90 years to find her on any census in Illinois...or any other state for that matter. There's a good starting point....find her in a census. If it's a county close to you, spend some time looking for her in the census that you believe she may appear. Many historical societies have old censuses on microfilm...and even better it would scanned to digital form. You may get lucky and see here name and age mentioned in the household of your great-grandparents. From there, perhaps you can find her birth certificate in the same county. Of course, this assuming the family didn't move freqently. And the county didn't lose records. Anyone else have some suggestions? Surely, you do, cousin Linda....you have a lot more experience than I. heh heh. Matt Smallwood On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 12:57:42 EST Dusty1930@aol.com wrote: > I am new to this, so hope I am doing this right. I am > trying to find out > something on my Holler grand parents. My grand father's > name was Walter William > Holler, born in Mason, IL, Effingham Co. I know nothing > about my grandmother, > except her name, Mary Ellen Elizabeth Marion. I am in my > 70's and met only one > of my grandparents when I was real young. All of my > family, with the exception > of my sister are gone now, so I have no one to ask. Any > help on this or how to > get help, I sure could use Thank you John > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from > it, send e-mail to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or > (for the > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the > word subscribe or > unsubscribe in the message body. > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Web mail provided by NuNet, Inc. The Premier National provider. http://www.nni.com/ ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send e-mail to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the message body. ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send e-mail to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the message body.

Here's the first thing I might suggest, John. Do you know what county your grandmother was born in, as well as the approximate year? If you're 70, assume you have to go back about 90 years to find her on any census in Illinois...or any other state for that matter. There's a good starting point....find her in a census. If it's a county close to you, spend some time looking for her in the census that you believe she may appear. Many historical societies have old censuses on microfilm...and even better it would scanned to digital form. You may get lucky and see here name and age mentioned in the household of your great-grandparents. From there, perhaps you can find her birth certificate in the same county. Of course, this assuming the family didn't move freqently. And the county didn't lose records. Anyone else have some suggestions? Surely, you do, cousin Linda....you have a lot more experience than I. heh heh. Matt Smallwood On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 12:57:42 EST Dusty1930@aol.com wrote: > I am new to this, so hope I am doing this right. I am > trying to find out > something on my Holler grand parents. My grand father's > name was Walter William > Holler, born in Mason, IL, Effingham Co. I know nothing > about my grandmother, > except her name, Mary Ellen Elizabeth Marion. I am in my > 70's and met only one > of my grandparents when I was real young. All of my > family, with the exception > of my sister are gone now, so I have no one to ask. Any > help on this or how to > get help, I sure could use Thank you John > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from > it, send e-mail to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or > (for the > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the > word subscribe or > unsubscribe in the message body. > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Web mail provided by NuNet, Inc. The Premier National provider. http://www.nni.com/

I don't have a lot of research resources here at home, that's why I was holding off on this. I checked the 1880 census for the surnames Holler and Marion. There are several Marion families, but I didn't find a young lady by the name of Mary Ellen Elizabeth Marion. I also checked for possible misspellings of both surnames. I also checked the 1890 tax lists, and the 1900 census. No luck there either. Perhaps if you give me the dates of birth (or approximate dates) if we add about 15-20 years, I can look for a marriage record in Effingham County. Do you know where they died? I don't have many cemetery records here, but the ladies from the Effingham County genealogy society have many more records available there than I do here (I live in Arizona and my research library is good, but limited). Linda (cousin to Matt Smallwood).........thanks for the hand-off Matt <grin> -----Original Message----- From: thehinge@magpage.com [mailto:thehinge@magpage.com] Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 11:53 PM To: ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ILEFFING-L] Grandparents Here's the first thing I might suggest, John. Do you know what county your grandmother was born in, as well as the approximate year? If you're 70, assume you have to go back about 90 years to find her on any census in Illinois...or any other state for that matter. There's a good starting point....find her in a census. If it's a county close to you, spend some time looking for her in the census that you believe she may appear. Many historical societies have old censuses on microfilm...and even better it would scanned to digital form. You may get lucky and see here name and age mentioned in the household of your great-grandparents. From there, perhaps you can find her birth certificate in the same county. Of course, this assuming the family didn't move freqently. And the county didn't lose records. Anyone else have some suggestions? Surely, you do, cousin Linda....you have a lot more experience than I. heh heh. Matt Smallwood On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 12:57:42 EST Dusty1930@aol.com wrote: > I am new to this, so hope I am doing this right. I am > trying to find out > something on my Holler grand parents. My grand father's > name was Walter William > Holler, born in Mason, IL, Effingham Co. I know nothing > about my grandmother, > except her name, Mary Ellen Elizabeth Marion. I am in my > 70's and met only one > of my grandparents when I was real young. All of my > family, with the exception > of my sister are gone now, so I have no one to ask. Any > help on this or how to > get help, I sure could use Thank you John > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from > it, send e-mail to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or > (for the > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the > word subscribe or > unsubscribe in the message body. > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Web mail provided by NuNet, Inc. The Premier National provider. http://www.nni.com/ ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send e-mail to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the message body.

I am new to this, so hope I am doing this right. I am trying to find out something on my Holler grand parents. My grand father's name was Walter William Holler, born in Mason, IL, Effingham Co. I know nothing about my grandmother, except her name, Mary Ellen Elizabeth Marion. I am in my 70's and met only one of my grandparents when I was real young. All of my family, with the exception of my sister are gone now, so I have no one to ask. Any help on this or how to get help, I sure could use Thank you John

Thanks very much for the settler's book, Delores! Interesting reading.

Hello everyone, I just finished phase one in the construction of a "new" old site. After I moved my Loy site to Rootsweb.com, I kept the old account at Fortunecity.com still open, where as of today it's now a site dedicated to stuff pertaining to Effingham County. The daughter of my grandmother's cousin has the 1935 Old Settlers' Reunion Bulletin, which I scanned and have on this site. According to this 20 page booklet, it was the first edition printed. I'm curious if anyone else knows of any later publications in existence, which might be able to be scanned for this site. This first edition publication not only gives a history of the county, but records deaths and marriages in the county during the past year. I plan on adding more stuff to this little by little. When I get time, I'd like to add the Effingham County State census, which I have on microfilm. Additionally, I inherited my dad's autograph book from when he attended White School in the late 1930s. I'm hoping the penciled autographs of his classmates will show up in a scan. There are two ways to access the site. One is by the original URL: <http://members.fortunecity.com/milennium/paddington/63> which was used for my Loy site. After Fortunecity changed website "street" names (Paddington 63) to user names (loyhistory), it can also be accessed at: <http://members.fortunecity.com/loyhistory>

I received this message, which might be 'a source' for some Colonial Roots out of Virginia. Yes, it would be a trek, or maybe something to plan for, for next year? Don Silvius is one of the Administrators of the Shenandoah (VA) Gen Website. Because so many of my family lived and died in Shenandoah County, I have a real interest in the area as well as the people.  The second Saturday in April, we will be holding our third annual Shenandoah County Heritage Day.  This is at least, a "genealogy fair" and at most a "genealogists convention" - which is to say that in our first two years our attendance was over 200 and then over 300 people.  So we're not a secret in Shenandoah County.  Many many researchers have found new connections and cousins and made new friends.  We have a committee of 8 people who plan and arrange and plan some more to put on the event at no cost to anyone involved.  The only people who make money are the historical societies and non-profit organizations who attend, and the authors and the fire department who we rent the hall from.  I forgot, Shenandoah County sells books also.    Anyway, my point is, if you'd like to familiarize yourself with Shenandoah County, this would be a great time to do so.  Shenandoah County is about 90 minutes drive from Washington, DC and once you are on I-66, the next turn would be south on I-81 to get to Edinburg, where we hold Heritage Day.

Thought some of you might be interested in this........ Linda -----Original Message----- From: Meredith Thompson [mailto:mere_thom@runbox.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 11:08 AM To: ILEFFING-admin@rootsweb.com Subject: genealogy conference I have an announcement about the Indiana Genealogical Society's upcoming conference, which I thought might be of interest to the Effingham County list. *********** The Holiday Inn in Anderson, Indiana (Exit 26 on I-69) will play host to the Indiana Genealogical Society's annual conference on Saturday, April 2, 2005. George G. Morgan, noted author and columnist for Ancestry.com, will speak at four sessions. Other sessions will focus on family photos, school records and researching Catholic ancestors. There will be various vendors (including the Illinois State Genealogical Society) and a Computer Resource Center staffed by IGS, where attendees can view demonstrations of websites, data CDs and other software. The Anderson Public Library (http://www.and.lib.in.us) will have a Research Lock-In on Friday, April 1st from 5 to 8 pm. Conference and vendor registration forms are available on the IGS website at http://www.indgensoc.org/conference.html ************************************ Meredith Thompson Newsletter editor & website manager Indiana Genealogical Society http://www.indgensoc.org ************************************

Congratulations on your recent find. That would be a nice addition to our holdings here in Effingham. Maybe you will come across another one sometime in your adventures. We would be glad to reimburse you. How many pages is the bulletin? Eleanor ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Lambert" <ktlkate@extremezone.com> To: <ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 7:43 PM Subject: [ILEFFING-L] From the list administrator....... >I don't normally talk specifically about genealogy products, etc., BUT....I > went to the National Genealogy Society conference in Phoenix this past > week. > I helped in the vendor's booth for "The Master Genealogist" genealogy > software program, which I have used for years. I took some time to wander > about the vendor area to see what I couldn't live without <grin>. I'm > always on the lookout for Illinois items to add to my personal library > here > in Arizona. > > > > Guess what I found? A genealogy bulletin from Heritage Creations. It is > issue number 65, October, 2004 and cost me $4.95. > > The content is mostly censuses & substitutes for the Old Northwest > Territory > (includes Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Minnesota, Ohio and Wisconsin). > Also > included is a historical timeline for the Northwest Territory. Needless > to > say, I bought it, but didn't get a chance to look at it until tonite. > > > > If you have a chance to get one of these, I recommend it. > > > > Hopefully, the genealogy society in Effingham has a copy. I can see it > being a welcome addition to their reference library. > > > > Linda > > List Administrator > > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send e-mail > to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word subscribe or > unsubscribe in the message body. > > >

It's 47 pages. I wonder if you could order a copy. Their phone number is 801-677-0048 Their web page is www.heritagecreations.com Linda -----Original Message----- From: Eleanor Bounds [mailto:elpobo@effingham.net] Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 8:03 PM To: ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ILEFFING-L] From the list administrator....... Congratulations on your recent find. That would be a nice addition to our holdings here in Effingham. Maybe you will come across another one sometime in your adventures. We would be glad to reimburse you. How many pages is the bulletin? Eleanor ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Lambert" <ktlkate@extremezone.com> To: <ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 7:43 PM Subject: [ILEFFING-L] From the list administrator....... >I don't normally talk specifically about genealogy products, etc., BUT....I > went to the National Genealogy Society conference in Phoenix this past > week. > I helped in the vendor's booth for "The Master Genealogist" genealogy > software program, which I have used for years. I took some time to wander > about the vendor area to see what I couldn't live without <grin>. I'm > always on the lookout for Illinois items to add to my personal library > here > in Arizona. > > > > Guess what I found? A genealogy bulletin from Heritage Creations. It is > issue number 65, October, 2004 and cost me $4.95. > > The content is mostly censuses & substitutes for the Old Northwest > Territory > (includes Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Minnesota, Ohio and Wisconsin). > Also > included is a historical timeline for the Northwest Territory. Needless > to > say, I bought it, but didn't get a chance to look at it until tonite. > > > > If you have a chance to get one of these, I recommend it. > > > > Hopefully, the genealogy society in Effingham has a copy. I can see it > being a welcome addition to their reference library. > > > > Linda > > List Administrator > > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send e-mail > to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word subscribe or > unsubscribe in the message body. > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send e-mail to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the message body.

I don't normally talk specifically about genealogy products, etc., BUT....I went to the National Genealogy Society conference in Phoenix this past week. I helped in the vendor's booth for "The Master Genealogist" genealogy software program, which I have used for years. I took some time to wander about the vendor area to see what I couldn't live without <grin>. I'm always on the lookout for Illinois items to add to my personal library here in Arizona. Guess what I found? A genealogy bulletin from Heritage Creations. It is issue number 65, October, 2004 and cost me $4.95. The content is mostly censuses & substitutes for the Old Northwest Territory (includes Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Minnesota, Ohio and Wisconsin). Also included is a historical timeline for the Northwest Territory. Needless to say, I bought it, but didn't get a chance to look at it until tonite. If you have a chance to get one of these, I recommend it. Hopefully, the genealogy society in Effingham has a copy. I can see it being a welcome addition to their reference library. Linda List Administrator

Thank you Tony for all your help on the Kuhns family. Maybe one day it'll all come together. Faye

Tony, Mary Weber's parents are John C. Weber and Catherine Ernst. Mary Weber was born 1867 in Georgetown, Brown, Ohio and died in Moccasin Twp, Effingham, Illinois on Dec 18, 1941. I don't have any siblings or any other information on the parents. Faye

Faye, Now I think I saw those names mentioned eariler. No hits in my database. Hope what I sent you eariler is useful because it seems that's all there is that I can help with. Tony M

Hi Tony, Thanks for all your assistance. I'm confused about the line myself. Sometimes it looks like it adds up and the next time it looks confusing. On top of that I've only been doing this a couple of years now. Not that long at all. I guess you could say, I'm still a newbie. My fathers name is Lawrence August Roedell born 4/16/1920 in Altamont. His parents were Louis Rodolph Roedell and Fannie Elizabeth Kuhns. Louis was born Nov 10, 1889 to Joseph Antonious Roedell and Mary Elvena Woll in Altamont, Illinois. Fannie was born Feb 11, 1890 to Peter Kuhns and Mary Weber in Altamont, Illinois. Thanks again, Faye

The earliest issue of the Effingham Democrat available on microfilm is 1861. Unfortunatly, it's an issue here or an issue there, not continuous. But there is a very long stretch from 1870 to 1900 in which many, many issues are available. An issue of the Central Illinois Register (pub. in Effingham) from 1865 is available on microfilm. There are two issues from the renamed Register from 1868. Microfilmed issues of the Effingham Republican begin in 1880, but availability of continuous issues is sporadic. Issues of the Effingham Volksblatt begin in the microfilm holdings in 1890. Again, there are big gaps and some periods of continuous issues. I love newspaper research, especially when it concerns German-American communities, so I am publishing a series of translations of Effingham Volksblatt issues from 1884-1886 to make early reporting more accessible to today's English-speaking descendants. These issues are completely continuous for a two-year period. They were bound together in a volume in the holdings of the Monastery Museum of Teutopolis. Several years ago, I photographed all the local content, including reports from Effingham, Montrose, Teutopolis, Sigel, Altamont, Edgewood, Bishop Creek, Shumway, Dieterich, and more. These translations -- side-by-side with the German originals -- are available in book form only (not on microfilm). Please see www.brumleve.org for surname lists. The books currently in print cover news from Effingham, Sigel, and Teutopolis from mid-June 1884 to mid-June 1886. I'm tackling Altamont next, and hope to publish that one by June 2005. I've also submitted a couple articles to the ECGHS quarterly for publication this year. These contain excerpts from the Volksblatt translation books. Dorothy Brumleve www.brumleve.org Susan McConnell wrote: > > How far back does the Effingham Democrat go? Did it report the > 'county' news? Has it all been microfilmed? > > My first thought is 'Wow, what a resource!' We go back 100 to 150 yrs, > Wainscott-Hyde and Mowery-Rice and Rice-Hyde, in Edgewood and Effingham > (Effingham Co), Kinmundy (Marion Co), and Paxton (Ford Co). > > Some people were snagged by the US Censuses, others come and go, either > leaving a short trace or by being buried in Edgewood or Paxton. It's > NEVER dull! > > -- SueMcC55@comcast.net > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send e-mail to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word subscribe or > unsubscribe in the message body.