In the 1880 Fed. Census for Effingham Co., Il. Jackson Twp. Caroline appears with her brothers and sisters. G. H. Ingram 65 b: KY Halleck son 18 b: IL James son 16 b:IL Caroline Dau b: IL Allen son b: IL Lilly dau. b: IL. In the 1880 Fed. Census for Jefferson Co., Il. Casner Twp. there is this family: John Bourland 59 b: Al Wife: Catherine 33 b: TN Elizabeth dau. 23 b: IL Charles son 19 b: AR Thomas son 13 rest b: IL Dudley son 11 Mary L dau 9 Hamilton son 4 Alice sdau 16 On 16 JUL 1886 Caroline had a boy she named George Washington Ingram. Father unknown. On 20 JUL 1887 Caroline married Charles Bourland. Effingham Co., Il. Marr. book 1, pg. 150. Her brother James was witness. Charles and Caroline and family appear in the 1900 Fed. Census for Illinois in the Elk Twp. Pg. 113. George Washington Ingram married Maude Davis in Effingham Co., Il. on 3 DEC 1812. I know a bit more about this family (if you are intrested). Would like to know more about the Bourlands - or anything else someone would care to contribute. Dianne Ingram in Oregon __________________________________ Discover Yahoo! Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/mobile.html

I am searching for ancestry information on a Jonah K. Long (My g grandfather) believed to have resided in central Illinois area around the turn of the century. Jonah's wife's name was believed to be Joyce (Dover<Maiden name) Long. Jonah's children were George, Emma, Stella and May. Jonah originally migrated to Illinios from Southeastern Ohio (Cambridge, Ohio area). Also looking for information on the "Long" family who resided in Christopher, Illinois during the 1920's and beyond I think. Family is as follows: Head: George Weston Long (My grandfather) Wife: Grace Agusta Long (My grandmother) Children: John, Frank, Chuck, Danny, Helen, Madeline, and there is belief that there may have been twins born also whom died during a flue epidemic. These children were born about/between 1908 and 1921. Helen (My Aunt) married and her married surname was Sims. Thanks for any information you may be able to share. Sincerely, George Long >from Dayton, Ohio --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new Resources site!

I am looking information on George W Long born March 11, 1881 in Effingham Il. This information was found on a marriage license. George's parents were Johnah or Jonah K Long and Joyce Dover. Rita A Long

Eleanor, I am a descendent of Richard Anderson through his daughter Isabell and her son Charles Albert. Richard settled in Wayne County, Illinois, Isabell moved to Jasper County, then Charles Albert moved to Effingham County. I am also a descendent of Levi Ooton through his son Silas who married Jeanette Shirley daughter of Charles Shirley. The Shirleys and Ootons lived in Clay County, Illinois and Effingham County. Shellee

The IL Secretary of State's Office has a wonderful collection of databases. Here is the URL to get there. If it doesn't work, in Search type in Illinois death database. http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/archives/databases.html Good luck! Barb Galt, CA -----Original Message----- From: Merle Southern [mailto:mjsouth@rollanet.org] Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 7:49 PM To: ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ILEFFING-L] Samuel Southern Samuel Southern was shown in the 1870 Effingham Co, IL census with his wife Susan, sons Thomas and Alpherd, and daughter Mary. The family moved to Jasper Co, MO, prior to 1875. However, Samuel did not arrive in MO. It is thought that Samuel may have died sometime during the period 1870 and 1875. It is known that Effingham Co had a major cholera epidemic in 1872-1873 and IL had enfluenza in 1873. Are there death records available for Effingham Co for the time periods shown? ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send e-mail to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the message body.

Shellee, May I ask who you are researching in the Ooton, Shirley, and Anderson lines. Eleanor ----- Original Message ----- From: <SHELLEEANDERSON@cs.com> To: <ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 10:59 AM Subject: Re: [ILEFFING-L] Samuel Southern > The best source for deaths in this time period is probate records, wills, > cemetery records and headstones. Even though death records started in > 1878, no one was required to report the death until the early 1900's. > > Shellee Anderson > Researching: Anderson, Brewer, Brimmeier, Curry, Grove, Ooton, Shirley, > White, and Wiegel > > "Audrey Garbe" <audrey@effingham.net> wrote: > >>Effingham Co. death records started in 1878. >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Merle Southern" <mjsouth@rollanet.org> >>To: <ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 9:49 PM >>Subject: [ILEFFING-L] Samuel Southern >> >> >>> Samuel Southern was shown in the 1870 Effingham Co, IL census with his >>wife Susan, sons Thomas and Alpherd, and daughter Mary. The family moved >>to >>Jasper Co, MO, prior to 1875. However, Samuel did not arrive in MO. It is >>thought that Samuel may have died sometime during the period 1870 and >>1875. >>It is known that Effingham Co had a major cholera epidemic in 1872-1873 >>and >>IL had enfluenza in 1873. Are there death records available for Effingham >>Co for the time periods shown? >>> >>> >>> ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== >>> If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send >>> e-mail >>to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the >>> digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word subscribe >>> or >>> unsubscribe in the message body. >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >>==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== >>If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send e-mail >>to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the >>digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word subscribe or >>unsubscribe in the message body. >> >> > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send e-mail > to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word subscribe or > unsubscribe in the message body. > > >

The best source for deaths in this time period is probate records, wills, cemetery records and headstones. Even though death records started in 1878, no one was required to report the death until the early 1900's. Shellee Anderson Researching: Anderson, Brewer, Brimmeier, Curry, Grove, Ooton, Shirley, White, and Wiegel "Audrey Garbe" <audrey@effingham.net> wrote: >Effingham Co. death records started in 1878. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Merle Southern" <mjsouth@rollanet.org> >To: <ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 9:49 PM >Subject: [ILEFFING-L] Samuel Southern > > >> Samuel Southern was shown in the 1870 Effingham Co, IL census with his >wife Susan, sons Thomas and Alpherd, and daughter Mary.  The family moved to >Jasper Co, MO, prior to 1875.  However, Samuel did not arrive in MO.  It is >thought that Samuel may have died sometime during the period 1870 and 1875. >It is known that Effingham Co had a major cholera epidemic in 1872-1873 and >IL had enfluenza in 1873.  Are there death records available for Effingham >Co for the time periods shown? >> >> >> ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== >> If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send e-mail >to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the >> digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word subscribe or >> unsubscribe in the message body. >> >> >> > > > >==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== >If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send e-mail to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the >digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word subscribe or >unsubscribe in the message body. > >

Effingham Co. death records started in 1878. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Merle Southern" <mjsouth@rollanet.org> To: <ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 9:49 PM Subject: [ILEFFING-L] Samuel Southern > Samuel Southern was shown in the 1870 Effingham Co, IL census with his wife Susan, sons Thomas and Alpherd, and daughter Mary. The family moved to Jasper Co, MO, prior to 1875. However, Samuel did not arrive in MO. It is thought that Samuel may have died sometime during the period 1870 and 1875. It is known that Effingham Co had a major cholera epidemic in 1872-1873 and IL had enfluenza in 1873. Are there death records available for Effingham Co for the time periods shown? > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send e-mail to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word subscribe or > unsubscribe in the message body. > > >

Samuel Southern was shown in the 1870 Effingham Co, IL census with his wife Susan, sons Thomas and Alpherd, and daughter Mary. The family moved to Jasper Co, MO, prior to 1875. However, Samuel did not arrive in MO. It is thought that Samuel may have died sometime during the period 1870 and 1875. It is known that Effingham Co had a major cholera epidemic in 1872-1873 and IL had enfluenza in 1873. Are there death records available for Effingham Co for the time periods shown?

This one might take a little thought but the Effingham Co. Marriage book 1833-1877 says that John Randall and Eliza Jane Baily were married Mar 21 1854 by Jacob Bishop. M.G. I would question another marriage to Rankin. Eliza married William Lowder on Jan 5, 1860 and in the 1860 they are living in Ewington with Casse age two and Wyatt Bailie, possibly a brother to Eliza. She is only 20 then. Could it be that the husband that died was John Randell and not Rankin? Audrey ----- Original Message ----- From: <xsnos@softcom.net> To: <ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2005 10:27 AM Subject: [ILEFFING-L] Calvin AUSTIN/William LOWDER/Jobel J. RANDELL? /RANKIN/Eliza BAILEY > Now lets see if I get it right this time - I mistakenly sent this from our > default email . . . > > I am looking for any information on the husbands of Eliza BAILEY, b. Sep > 1839 in IN to Henry P. and Susan Landreth BAILEY. What I have found, and > what I am missing is: > > Eliza married ? RANKIN. They had Viola RANKIN abt. 1857. Then he died. > Who was Mr. RANKIN? Nora BAILEY has this as her first marriage. > > Eliza married Jobel J. RANDELL October 30, 1858. In the 1860 census she is > living with he and his daughter Cassie (she was born abt. 1858-59, according > to the 1860 census). What happened to Jobel and Cassie? I have been unable > to find either of them after that. When and where was he born? > > Eliza married William LOWDER on January 05, 1860. In 1862 they had Henry > Lowder. What happened to William? > > Eliza married Calvin AUSTIN March 08, 1865. They had - and this I'm not > sure of - Frank H. AUSTIN in August of 1869. Were there any other children? > When she died, her name was still Austin. In the 1900 census, Frank H. was > living with Calvin and Eliza Jane, and they had been married 34 years. In > The History of Effingham Co., Historical and Biographical, either the 1883 > or 1910 version has her married to Calvin Austin. > > That is my timeline according to the children and some census information. > Now here are my contradictions: > > IL Marriage Database shows Jobel J. Randell marrying Elizabeth A. Austin The > 1860 census shows Cassie Randell living with Eliza and William Lowder.IL > Marriage Database shows William Lowder marrying (Mrs.) Eliza Randell. > > I am so confused!! > > Is there any database out there that has early divorces for Illinois? > > Can anyone out there help? > > Thank you for your time, > Barbara Smith > Galt, CA > > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send e-mail to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word subscribe or > unsubscribe in the message body. > > >

The Helen Matthes Library has the Effingham Co. papers on micro-film. I could search the paper for the article. Audrey ----- Original Message ----- From: <xsnos@softcom.net> To: <ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2005 10:29 AM Subject: [ILEFFING-L] WILLIAM HENRY BAILEY JR. > This message I mistakenly sent from our default email, too: > > I am looking for information on the death of William Henry BAILEY Jr. My > aunt (Nellie Arline BAILEY) told me she always wondered about him being shot > to death, but that her father - my grandfather, Everet Daniel BAILEY - would > never speak about it. In January, my uncle (Everet Lloyd BAILEY) said that > his mother used to have a newspaper story about the shooting. > Does anyone know how/where I could find the newspaper story of this > incident? He died November 21, 1922 in Effingham Co., IL. > > Thank you for your time, > Barbara Smith > Galt, CA > > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send e-mail to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word subscribe or > unsubscribe in the message body. > >

I have no pictures of the cemetery or its headstones but I do have information on burials. Bailey Cemetery Mason Twp. Effingham Co. DAR readings. Bailey, John L. d. Jan 18, 1895 age 40y 4m 9d H.P. Mar 23 1809 - Nov 20 1879 Corp Co B 38th Ill Inf Susanah wife July 22, 1816 - Mar 9 1904 Tandy Co K 143 ILL Inf Bailey, Wm. H. Jan 18, 1847 Aug 4, 1916 Mary A. Nov. 10, 1851 Feb. 27, 1917 In New Hope Cemetery Mason Twp. Bailey, Sibyl Murphy wife of J. L. Bailey d. June 10, 1901 age 30y 8m 11d ----- Original Message ----- From: <xsnos@softcom.net> To: <ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2005 10:30 AM Subject: [ILEFFING-L] BAILEY FAMILY CEMETERY > And this is the final one I mistakenly sent from our default email: > > In The History of Effingham County, Illinois - the 1910 edition, it says > both Henry P. BAILEY and his wife Susan LANDRETH BAILEY were buried in the > BAILEY Cemetery, Mason Twp. Is there anyone who has pictures of this > cemetery or it's headstones, or any information as to the folks buried > there? Is there any information on it I can refer to? > > Thank you for your time, > Barbara Smith > Galt, CA > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send e-mail to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word subscribe or > unsubscribe in the message body. > >

Found an article on ancestry newspaper archives. This William Bailey was shot and murdered, was a saloonkeeper. Not sure if it's the right William Bailey. ----- Original Message ----- From: <xsnos@softcom.net> To: <ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2005 10:29 AM Subject: [ILEFFING-L] WILLIAM HENRY BAILEY JR. > This message I mistakenly sent from our default email, too: > > I am looking for information on the death of William Henry BAILEY Jr. My > aunt (Nellie Arline BAILEY) told me she always wondered about him being shot > to death, but that her father - my grandfather, Everet Daniel BAILEY - would > never speak about it. In January, my uncle (Everet Lloyd BAILEY) said that > his mother used to have a newspaper story about the shooting. > Does anyone know how/where I could find the newspaper story of this > incident? He died November 21, 1922 in Effingham Co., IL. > > Thank you for your time, > Barbara Smith > Galt, CA > > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send e-mail to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word subscribe or > unsubscribe in the message body. > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.10 - Release Date: 5/13/05 > >

And this is the final one I mistakenly sent from our default email: In The History of Effingham County, Illinois - the 1910 edition, it says both Henry P. BAILEY and his wife Susan LANDRETH BAILEY were buried in the BAILEY Cemetery, Mason Twp. Is there anyone who has pictures of this cemetery or it's headstones, or any information as to the folks buried there? Is there any information on it I can refer to? Thank you for your time, Barbara Smith Galt, CA

This message I mistakenly sent from our default email, too: I am looking for information on the death of William Henry BAILEY Jr. My aunt (Nellie Arline BAILEY) told me she always wondered about him being shot to death, but that her father - my grandfather, Everet Daniel BAILEY - would never speak about it. In January, my uncle (Everet Lloyd BAILEY) said that his mother used to have a newspaper story about the shooting. Does anyone know how/where I could find the newspaper story of this incident? He died November 21, 1922 in Effingham Co., IL. Thank you for your time, Barbara Smith Galt, CA

Now lets see if I get it right this time - I mistakenly sent this from our default email . . . I am looking for any information on the husbands of Eliza BAILEY, b. Sep 1839 in IN to Henry P. and Susan Landreth BAILEY. What I have found, and what I am missing is: Eliza married ? RANKIN. They had Viola RANKIN abt. 1857. Then he died. Who was Mr. RANKIN? Nora BAILEY has this as her first marriage. Eliza married Jobel J. RANDELL October 30, 1858. In the 1860 census she is living with he and his daughter Cassie (she was born abt. 1858-59, according to the 1860 census). What happened to Jobel and Cassie? I have been unable to find either of them after that. When and where was he born? Eliza married William LOWDER on January 05, 1860. In 1862 they had Henry Lowder. What happened to William? Eliza married Calvin AUSTIN March 08, 1865. They had - and this I'm not sure of - Frank H. AUSTIN in August of 1869. Were there any other children? When she died, her name was still Austin. In the 1900 census, Frank H. was living with Calvin and Eliza Jane, and they had been married 34 years. In The History of Effingham Co., Historical and Biographical, either the 1883 or 1910 version has her married to Calvin Austin. That is my timeline according to the children and some census information. Now here are my contradictions: IL Marriage Database shows Jobel J. Randell marrying Elizabeth A. Austin The 1860 census shows Cassie Randell living with Eliza and William Lowder.IL Marriage Database shows William Lowder marrying (Mrs.) Eliza Randell. I am so confused!! Is there any database out there that has early divorces for Illinois? Can anyone out there help? Thank you for your time, Barbara Smith Galt, CA

Several EXCELLENT suggestions. If you're in this for the long haul, you're in this for the long haul. -- Sue

I would like to find out which cemetery Thomas J Sharp & his wife Mary are buried in. They lived in Watson Twp, so I suspect they are buried there. Thomas died 19 April 1893 & his wife Mary died 28 March 1916. May be other Sharp family buried with them. Thanks for any help. Don Bethard

Don, Thomas and Mary are buried at Loy Cemetery in Watson Twp. How are you connected to Thomas and Mary? Thomas was nephew to my ancestor Rachel (Sharp) Loy. Mary was niece of Rachel's husband, my ancestor, Joseph C. Loy. Both are also buried at Loy Cemetery. Rachel's mother Elizabeth (Hodge(s) Sharp was cousin to Joseph's mother Mary (Hodges) Loy, so there's a lot of connection I have to Thomas J. Sharp's family! On 5/9/05 5:19 PM, "DHBETHARD@aol.com" <DHBETHARD@aol.com> wrote: > I would like to find out which cemetery Thomas J Sharp & his wife Mary are > buried in. They lived in Watson Twp, so I suspect they are buried there. > Thomas died 19 April 1893 & his wife Mary died 28 March 1916. May be other > Sharp > family buried with them. Thanks for any help. Don Bethard > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send e-mail to > ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word subscribe or > unsubscribe in the message body. >

I've spent the entire day changing/deleting bad email addresses for both this mailing list and the IL GenWeb page. Needless to say, this is very time consuming. I have the following suggestion.. Use an email address that will last. How many addresses have you had in the past year, 2 years, 5 years? Chances are that others cannot reach you because your email address has changed, perhaps several times. Sign up for a free account and then use that address for all genealogy correspondence and then don't change it!!! Keep it!!! Don't rely on the good nature of web page administrators or mailing list administrators to change your records each time you change email addresses. It may mean one email for you, but hours of searching and editing for the web page administrator or mailing list administrator to accommodate just "your" request. In addition, when corresponding with other researchers, be sure to exchange permanent mailing addresses and/or phone numbers in case either of your e-mail addresses change. This will ensure that you will still have a way to contact each other. Linda Mailing List Administrator Effingham County GenWeb Volunteer