No problem, Steve....with a little luck I'll find it and actually be able to read it. I hope the information was etched deep in the stone......it may not be dark after 120 years. Matt On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 14:52:32 -0500 "Marsha and Steve Leitzell" <sleitzell@mchsi.com> wrote: > Linda, > I agree with Matt. You and Dorothy and several > others on the mailing > list have been a great help to me. > Already checked Barney Hilmes' obit in the 1929 > Altamont News. That's > where I came up with the name Mary (Marie) Deters. Prior > to that, I had no > idea who his first wife was. St.Anthony's church is > going to check their > church burial records and see what they can find. F.Y.I. > They told me that > their cemetery grave location records from that time > period were destroyed > in a fire. Again, thanks for the help. > Steve > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Linda Lambert" <ktlkate@extremezone.com> > To: <ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 11:53 AM > Subject: RE: [ILEFFING-L] Marie Deters and Praise for > Linda and Dorothy: > > > > <blushing> Matt tends to exaggerate a bit <grin>. I > have him fooled. > But > > I am flattered. Thanks, Matt. > > > > I think I've got this right......correct me if I'm > wrong, Matt. Matt's > > great-grandfather and my grandfather were brothers. > That makes Matt my > > second cousin, once removed on my dad's side of the > family. > > > > Another thought, Steve.....what about looking for > Barney's obituary (if > you > > have not already done so). I am continually amazed at > the information in > > obits. I've found information about adoptions, > ex-in-laws, present > in-laws, > > foster children, etc. I found my 2nd great grandfather > by accident after > > looking for him for 15 years, only because one of my > genealogy friends in > > Effingham found an obit for what she thought was his > wife. I about > > discounted it, but decided to read it thoroughly and am > I ever glad I did. > > It turned out it was the obit of a second wife that I > didn't know about. > > Presuming that she was buried near him, I took a trip > to the cemetery, and > > there he was, smack dab between his first wife (my 2nd > great grandmother) > > and his second wife. I had no idea where any of them > were buried. Now I > > had dates, etc. The clue? The second wife's obit > mentioned 3 > > step-children, one of which was my grandfather (my > mother's side of the > > family). > > > > Linda (about 45 miles NW of Phoenix, Arizona, out in > the desert on the way > > to Wickenburg) ..... formerly of Teutopolis, Effingham > County, Illinois > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: thehinge@magpage.com > [mailto:thehinge@magpage.com] > > > Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 9:27 AM > > > To: ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: [ILEFFING-L] Marie Deters and Praise for > Linda and Dorothy: > > > > > > See, Steve......Linda and Dorothy are just awesome > sources > > > of information. I just can't say enough about the two > of > > > them. They're both just so full of knowledge.... I, > on the > > > other hand, am not so meticulous and devoted to > Effingham > > > County geneology....lol. > > > > > > Linda is my cousin and she drew me towards this > group. I > > > hope to meet her one day....she's been a blast and > has > > > taught me a lot. Neither of us live in Illinois, > Linda is > > > in southern Arizona and I'm on the east coast near > > > Philadelphia, PA....so almost 3000 miles are between > us. > > > Wouldn't it be nice if we all had a little meeting > at a > > > diner in Effingham County one day? Ah, one day.... > > > > > > I will make it a point to go to the St. Anthony's > cemetary > > > and get a photo of Marie Hilmes' stone for you, > Steve. No > > > problem at all....my uncle and I can practically walk > > > there. > > > Well, I would...my uncle wouldn't...he'll get in the > > > car...lol. > > > > > > Matt Smallwood > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 08:59:06 -0700 > > > "Linda Lambert" <ktlkate@extremezone.com> wrote: > > > > Since you know when and where she died, have you > checked > > > > for a death record? > > > > Or.....a burial record from St. Anthony's church. > That > > > > may tell you the > > > > parents or next of kin. Death records back then > are hit > > > > and miss. Some are > > > > great, some are not. If it was me, I'd give it a > go and > > > > see what they say. > > > > > > > > Linda > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Marsha and Steve Leitzell > > > > [mailto:sleitzell@mchsi.com] > > > > > Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 8:49 AM > > > > > To: ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > Subject: Re: [ILEFFING-L] Looking for information > on > > > > Mary Dettert > > > > > > > > > > Linda, > > > > > Thanks. I will have to find out more about > her > > > > family elsewhere. 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Linda, I agree with Matt. You and Dorothy and several others on the mailing list have been a great help to me. Already checked Barney Hilmes' obit in the 1929 Altamont News. That's where I came up with the name Mary (Marie) Deters. Prior to that, I had no idea who his first wife was. St.Anthony's church is going to check their church burial records and see what they can find. F.Y.I. They told me that their cemetery grave location records from that time period were destroyed in a fire. Again, thanks for the help. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Lambert" <ktlkate@extremezone.com> To: <ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 11:53 AM Subject: RE: [ILEFFING-L] Marie Deters and Praise for Linda and Dorothy: > <blushing> Matt tends to exaggerate a bit <grin>. I have him fooled. But > I am flattered. Thanks, Matt. > > I think I've got this right......correct me if I'm wrong, Matt. Matt's > great-grandfather and my grandfather were brothers. That makes Matt my > second cousin, once removed on my dad's side of the family. > > Another thought, Steve.....what about looking for Barney's obituary (if you > have not already done so). I am continually amazed at the information in > obits. I've found information about adoptions, ex-in-laws, present in-laws, > foster children, etc. I found my 2nd great grandfather by accident after > looking for him for 15 years, only because one of my genealogy friends in > Effingham found an obit for what she thought was his wife. I about > discounted it, but decided to read it thoroughly and am I ever glad I did. > It turned out it was the obit of a second wife that I didn't know about. > Presuming that she was buried near him, I took a trip to the cemetery, and > there he was, smack dab between his first wife (my 2nd great grandmother) > and his second wife. I had no idea where any of them were buried. Now I > had dates, etc. The clue? The second wife's obit mentioned 3 > step-children, one of which was my grandfather (my mother's side of the > family). > > Linda (about 45 miles NW of Phoenix, Arizona, out in the desert on the way > to Wickenburg) ..... formerly of Teutopolis, Effingham County, Illinois > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: thehinge@magpage.com [mailto:thehinge@magpage.com] > > Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 9:27 AM > > To: ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [ILEFFING-L] Marie Deters and Praise for Linda and Dorothy: > > > > See, Steve......Linda and Dorothy are just awesome sources > > of information. I just can't say enough about the two of > > them. They're both just so full of knowledge.... I, on the > > other hand, am not so meticulous and devoted to Effingham > > County geneology....lol. > > > > Linda is my cousin and she drew me towards this group. I > > hope to meet her one day....she's been a blast and has > > taught me a lot. Neither of us live in Illinois, Linda is > > in southern Arizona and I'm on the east coast near > > Philadelphia, PA....so almost 3000 miles are between us. > > Wouldn't it be nice if we all had a little meeting at a > > diner in Effingham County one day? Ah, one day.... > > > > I will make it a point to go to the St. Anthony's cemetary > > and get a photo of Marie Hilmes' stone for you, Steve. No > > problem at all....my uncle and I can practically walk > > there. > > Well, I would...my uncle wouldn't...he'll get in the > > car...lol. > > > > Matt Smallwood > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 08:59:06 -0700 > > "Linda Lambert" <ktlkate@extremezone.com> wrote: > > > Since you know when and where she died, have you checked > > > for a death record? > > > Or.....a burial record from St. Anthony's church. That > > > may tell you the > > > parents or next of kin. Death records back then are hit > > > and miss. Some are > > > great, some are not. If it was me, I'd give it a go and > > > see what they say. > > > > > > Linda > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Marsha and Steve Leitzell > > > [mailto:sleitzell@mchsi.com] > > > > Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 8:49 AM > > > > To: ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com > > > > Subject: Re: [ILEFFING-L] Looking for information on > > > Mary Dettert > > > > > > > > Linda, > > > > Thanks. I will have to find out more about her > > > family elsewhere. Her > > > > husband Barney Hilmes is buried in St. Clare's cemetery > > > in Altamont and > > > his > > > > family was from Breese and Aviston, IL in Clinton Co. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > > > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from > > > it, send e-mail to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or > > > (for the > > > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the > > > word subscribe or > > > unsubscribe in the message body. > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Web mail provided by NuNet, Inc. 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See, Steve......Linda and Dorothy are just awesome sources of information. I just can't say enough about the two of them. They're both just so full of knowledge.... I, on the other hand, am not so meticulous and devoted to Effingham County geneology....lol. Linda is my cousin and she drew me towards this group. I hope to meet her one day....she's been a blast and has taught me a lot. Neither of us live in Illinois, Linda is in southern Arizona and I'm on the east coast near Philadelphia, PA....so almost 3000 miles are between us. Wouldn't it be nice if we all had a little meeting at a diner in Effingham County one day? Ah, one day.... I will make it a point to go to the St. Anthony's cemetary and get a photo of Marie Hilmes' stone for you, Steve. No problem at all....my uncle and I can practically walk there. Well, I would...my uncle wouldn't...he'll get in the car...lol. Matt Smallwood On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 08:59:06 -0700 "Linda Lambert" <ktlkate@extremezone.com> wrote: > Since you know when and where she died, have you checked > for a death record? > Or.....a burial record from St. Anthony's church. That > may tell you the > parents or next of kin. Death records back then are hit > and miss. Some are > great, some are not. If it was me, I'd give it a go and > see what they say. > > Linda > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Marsha and Steve Leitzell > [mailto:sleitzell@mchsi.com] > > Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 8:49 AM > > To: ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [ILEFFING-L] Looking for information on > Mary Dettert > > > > Linda, > > Thanks. I will have to find out more about her > family elsewhere. Her > > husband Barney Hilmes is buried in St. Clare's cemetery > in Altamont and > his > > family was from Breese and Aviston, IL in Clinton Co. > > > > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from > it, send e-mail to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or > (for the > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the > word subscribe or > unsubscribe in the message body. > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Web mail provided by NuNet, Inc. The Premier National provider. http://www.nni.com/

Thank you Matt. I appreciate it. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: <thehinge@magpage.com> To: <ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 11:26 AM Subject: [ILEFFING-L] Marie Deters and Praise for Linda and Dorothy: > See, Steve......Linda and Dorothy are just awesome sources > of information. I just can't say enough about the two of > them. They're both just so full of knowledge.... I, on the > other hand, am not so meticulous and devoted to Effingham > County geneology....lol. > > Linda is my cousin and she drew me towards this group. I > hope to meet her one day....she's been a blast and has > taught me a lot. Neither of us live in Illinois, Linda is > in southern Arizona and I'm on the east coast near > Philadelphia, PA....so almost 3000 miles are between us. > Wouldn't it be nice if we all had a little meeting at a > diner in Effingham County one day? Ah, one day.... > > I will make it a point to go to the St. Anthony's cemetary > and get a photo of Marie Hilmes' stone for you, Steve. No > problem at all....my uncle and I can practically walk > there. > Well, I would...my uncle wouldn't...he'll get in the > car...lol. > > Matt Smallwood > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 08:59:06 -0700 > "Linda Lambert" <ktlkate@extremezone.com> wrote: > > Since you know when and where she died, have you checked > > for a death record? > > Or.....a burial record from St. Anthony's church. That > > may tell you the > > parents or next of kin. Death records back then are hit > > and miss. Some are > > great, some are not. If it was me, I'd give it a go and > > see what they say. > > > > Linda > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Marsha and Steve Leitzell > > [mailto:sleitzell@mchsi.com] > > > Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 8:49 AM > > > To: ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: Re: [ILEFFING-L] Looking for information on > > Mary Dettert > > > > > > Linda, > > > Thanks. I will have to find out more about her > > family elsewhere. Her > > > husband Barney Hilmes is buried in St. Clare's cemetery > > in Altamont and > > his > > > family was from Breese and Aviston, IL in Clinton Co. > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from > > it, send e-mail to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or > > (for the > > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the > > word subscribe or > > unsubscribe in the message body. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Web mail provided by NuNet, Inc. The Premier National provider. > http://www.nni.com/ > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send e-mail to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word subscribe or > unsubscribe in the message body. >

Linda, Thanks. I will have to find out more about her family elsewhere. Her husband Barney Hilmes is buried in St. Clare's cemetery in Altamont and his family was from Breese and Aviston, IL in Clinton Co. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Lambert" <ktlkate@extremezone.com> To: <ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 10:30 AM Subject: RE: [ILEFFING-L] Looking for information on Mary Dettert > I forgot to say that I checked the graves near her and found no apparent > link to anyone. It looks to me like she is all alone there. > > Linda > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Linda Lambert [mailto:ktlkate@extremezone.com] > > Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 7:59 AM > > To: ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: RE: [ILEFFING-L] Looking for information on Mary Dettert > > > > I checked my copy of the "reading" of St. Anthony's Cemetery. I found a > > Mary Hilmes, born 18 Jan 1859 and died 1883. If this is the same one, she > > is in Section II, Row 6, Grave #1. This reading was compiled by the Ann > > Crooker St. Clair Chapter DAR, Volume XII, 1991. > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > Linda (in Arizona) > > Effingham County IL Mailing List Administrator > > Effingham County IL GenWeb Site Volunteer > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Matt Smallwood [mailto:thehinge@magpage.com] > > > Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 11:36 PM > > > To: ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: Re: [ILEFFING-L] Looking for information on Mary Dettert > > > > > > > > > > > > Steve, my mother was a Deters......her family settled in Shelby County > > > around that period. Her great-grandparents, grandmother and grandfather > > and > > > several uncles and aunts are buried in the small Catholic cemetary > outside > > > of Sigel, Illinois. > > > > > > I don't know that my mother had any great aunts or uncles from Altamont > > > though. Marie Hilmes is most likely buried in the cemetary a few > hundred > > > yards from the house my mother grew up in....which is in Effingham. > It's > > > large though.....it'll be tough to find her stone, but perhaps she's > > buried > > > near some of my own relatives. My mother's parents, Elsie and Herbert > > > Deters, are buried in the cemetary I speak of. I'm taking some to visit > > > family right after Labor Day.....would you like me to try and find > Marie's > > > stone, Steve? Perhaps her parents are right next to her....could be. > She > > > did get transported to Effingham and that could be the reason. > > > > > > Matt Smallwood > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Dorothy Brumleve" <brumleve@insightbb.com> > > > To: <ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 3:43 PM > > > Subject: Re: [ILEFFING-L] Looking for information on Mary Dettert > > > > > > > > > > Excerpted from Effingham News As Reported in the Effingham Volksblatt, > > > > 1884-1886, page 196: > > > > > > > > (From Thurs, Apr 15, 1886) Died: Mrs. Marie Hilmes, born Deters, died > on > > > > Sunday monring after suffering about six months from consumption at > the > > > > age of 30 years at the home of her husband, Mr. B.H. Hilmes, in > > > > Altamont. The body was transported here [Effingham] via the Vandalia > > > > Railroad on Tuesday, where the funeral at the Catholic cemetery took > > > > place with a large number of participants. The deceased leaves behind > a > > > > grieving husband and four minor children to mourn her early demise. > May > > > > she rest in peace. > > > > > > > > Dorothy Brumleve > > > > http://www.brumleve.org > > > > > > > > Marsha and Steve Leitzell wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I am looking for information on Mary Dettert from Effingham, IL. > > > According to her husband's obituary in the Altamont News of June, 1929, > > she > > > was married to Bernard "Barney" Hilmes of Altamont, IL around 1875 and > > > presumably died sometime before 1887. > > > > > They lived in Altamont and had a daughter Anna, born 3/14/1878 > in > > > Altamont and died 7/26/1952 in Altamont. Barney later re-married (to > Mary > > > K. Lipsmeir-Wasmuth) and they lived in Altamont until their deaths in > 1929 > > / > > > 1926. > > > > > Does anyone know who Mary Dettert's parents and family were, and > > > when / where she died? > > > > > > > > > > Steve Leitzell sleitzell@mchsi.com > > > > > > > > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > > > > > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send > > > e-mail to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the > > > > > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word > > subscribe > > > or > > > > > unsubscribe in the message body. > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > > > > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send > > e-mail > > > to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the > > > > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word > subscribe > > or > > > > unsubscribe in the message body. > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > > > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send > e-mail > > to ILEFFING- > > > L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the > > > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word subscribe > or > > > unsubscribe in the message body. > > > > > > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send e-mail > to ILEFFING- > > L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the > > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word subscribe or > > unsubscribe in the message body. > > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send e-mail to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word subscribe or > unsubscribe in the message body. >

Linda, Thanks. Yes it does help. I think that she is definately my great-grandfather Hilmes' first wife. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Lambert" <ktlkate@extremezone.com> To: <ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 9:59 AM Subject: RE: [ILEFFING-L] Looking for information on Mary Dettert > I checked my copy of the "reading" of St. Anthony's Cemetery. I found a > Mary Hilmes, born 18 Jan 1859 and died 1883. If this is the same one, she > is in Section II, Row 6, Grave #1. This reading was compiled by the Ann > Crooker St. Clair Chapter DAR, Volume XII, 1991. > > Hope this helps. > > Linda (in Arizona) > Effingham County IL Mailing List Administrator > Effingham County IL GenWeb Site Volunteer > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Matt Smallwood [mailto:thehinge@magpage.com] > > Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 11:36 PM > > To: ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [ILEFFING-L] Looking for information on Mary Dettert > > > > > > > > Steve, my mother was a Deters......her family settled in Shelby County > > around that period. Her great-grandparents, grandmother and grandfather > and > > several uncles and aunts are buried in the small Catholic cemetary outside > > of Sigel, Illinois. > > > > I don't know that my mother had any great aunts or uncles from Altamont > > though. Marie Hilmes is most likely buried in the cemetary a few hundred > > yards from the house my mother grew up in....which is in Effingham. It's > > large though.....it'll be tough to find her stone, but perhaps she's > buried > > near some of my own relatives. My mother's parents, Elsie and Herbert > > Deters, are buried in the cemetary I speak of. I'm taking some to visit > > family right after Labor Day.....would you like me to try and find Marie's > > stone, Steve? Perhaps her parents are right next to her....could be. She > > did get transported to Effingham and that could be the reason. > > > > Matt Smallwood > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Dorothy Brumleve" <brumleve@insightbb.com> > > To: <ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 3:43 PM > > Subject: Re: [ILEFFING-L] Looking for information on Mary Dettert > > > > > > > Excerpted from Effingham News As Reported in the Effingham Volksblatt, > > > 1884-1886, page 196: > > > > > > (From Thurs, Apr 15, 1886) Died: Mrs. Marie Hilmes, born Deters, died on > > > Sunday monring after suffering about six months from consumption at the > > > age of 30 years at the home of her husband, Mr. B.H. Hilmes, in > > > Altamont. The body was transported here [Effingham] via the Vandalia > > > Railroad on Tuesday, where the funeral at the Catholic cemetery took > > > place with a large number of participants. The deceased leaves behind a > > > grieving husband and four minor children to mourn her early demise. May > > > she rest in peace. > > > > > > Dorothy Brumleve > > > http://www.brumleve.org > > > > > > Marsha and Steve Leitzell wrote: > > > > > > > > I am looking for information on Mary Dettert from Effingham, IL. > > According to her husband's obituary in the Altamont News of June, 1929, > she > > was married to Bernard "Barney" Hilmes of Altamont, IL around 1875 and > > presumably died sometime before 1887. > > > > They lived in Altamont and had a daughter Anna, born 3/14/1878 in > > Altamont and died 7/26/1952 in Altamont. Barney later re-married (to Mary > > K. Lipsmeir-Wasmuth) and they lived in Altamont until their deaths in 1929 > / > > 1926. > > > > Does anyone know who Mary Dettert's parents and family were, and > > when / where she died? > > > > > > > > Steve Leitzell sleitzell@mchsi.com > > > > > > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > > > > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send > > e-mail to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the > > > > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word > subscribe > > or > > > > unsubscribe in the message body. > > > > > > > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > > > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send > e-mail > > to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the > > > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word subscribe > or > > > unsubscribe in the message body. > > > > > > > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send e-mail > to ILEFFING- > > L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the > > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word subscribe or > > unsubscribe in the message body. > > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send e-mail to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word subscribe or > unsubscribe in the message body. >

Matt, Thanks for the reply. Yes, I would be interested in any info you can give me on Mary / Marie Deters. I just found out about a week ago that she was my great-grandfather Hilmes' first wife. Again, Thank You. Steve Leitzell, Clinton, IL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Smallwood" <thehinge@magpage.com> To: <ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 1:36 AM Subject: Re: [ILEFFING-L] Looking for information on Mary Dettert > > > Steve, my mother was a Deters......her family settled in Shelby County > around that period. Her great-grandparents, grandmother and grandfather and > several uncles and aunts are buried in the small Catholic cemetary outside > of Sigel, Illinois. > > I don't know that my mother had any great aunts or uncles from Altamont > though. Marie Hilmes is most likely buried in the cemetary a few hundred > yards from the house my mother grew up in....which is in Effingham. It's > large though.....it'll be tough to find her stone, but perhaps she's buried > near some of my own relatives. My mother's parents, Elsie and Herbert > Deters, are buried in the cemetary I speak of. I'm taking some to visit > family right after Labor Day.....would you like me to try and find Marie's > stone, Steve? Perhaps her parents are right next to her....could be. She > did get transported to Effingham and that could be the reason. > > Matt Smallwood > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dorothy Brumleve" <brumleve@insightbb.com> > To: <ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 3:43 PM > Subject: Re: [ILEFFING-L] Looking for information on Mary Dettert > > > > Excerpted from Effingham News As Reported in the Effingham Volksblatt, > > 1884-1886, page 196: > > > > (From Thurs, Apr 15, 1886) Died: Mrs. Marie Hilmes, born Deters, died on > > Sunday monring after suffering about six months from consumption at the > > age of 30 years at the home of her husband, Mr. B.H. Hilmes, in > > Altamont. The body was transported here [Effingham] via the Vandalia > > Railroad on Tuesday, where the funeral at the Catholic cemetery took > > place with a large number of participants. The deceased leaves behind a > > grieving husband and four minor children to mourn her early demise. May > > she rest in peace. > > > > Dorothy Brumleve > > http://www.brumleve.org > > > > Marsha and Steve Leitzell wrote: > > > > > > I am looking for information on Mary Dettert from Effingham, IL. > According to her husband's obituary in the Altamont News of June, 1929, she > was married to Bernard "Barney" Hilmes of Altamont, IL around 1875 and > presumably died sometime before 1887. > > > They lived in Altamont and had a daughter Anna, born 3/14/1878 in > Altamont and died 7/26/1952 in Altamont. Barney later re-married (to Mary > K. Lipsmeir-Wasmuth) and they lived in Altamont until their deaths in 1929 / > 1926. > > > Does anyone know who Mary Dettert's parents and family were, and > when / where she died? > > > > > > Steve Leitzell sleitzell@mchsi.com > > > > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > > > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send > e-mail to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the > > > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word subscribe > or > > > unsubscribe in the message body. > > > > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send e-mail > to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the > > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word subscribe or > > unsubscribe in the message body. > > > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send e-mail to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word subscribe or > unsubscribe in the message body. >

<blushing> Matt tends to exaggerate a bit <grin>. I have him fooled. But I am flattered. Thanks, Matt. I think I've got this right......correct me if I'm wrong, Matt. Matt's great-grandfather and my grandfather were brothers. That makes Matt my second cousin, once removed on my dad's side of the family. Another thought, Steve.....what about looking for Barney's obituary (if you have not already done so). I am continually amazed at the information in obits. I've found information about adoptions, ex-in-laws, present in-laws, foster children, etc. I found my 2nd great grandfather by accident after looking for him for 15 years, only because one of my genealogy friends in Effingham found an obit for what she thought was his wife. I about discounted it, but decided to read it thoroughly and am I ever glad I did. It turned out it was the obit of a second wife that I didn't know about. Presuming that she was buried near him, I took a trip to the cemetery, and there he was, smack dab between his first wife (my 2nd great grandmother) and his second wife. I had no idea where any of them were buried. Now I had dates, etc. The clue? The second wife's obit mentioned 3 step-children, one of which was my grandfather (my mother's side of the family). Linda (about 45 miles NW of Phoenix, Arizona, out in the desert on the way to Wickenburg) ..... formerly of Teutopolis, Effingham County, Illinois > -----Original Message----- > From: thehinge@magpage.com [mailto:thehinge@magpage.com] > Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 9:27 AM > To: ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ILEFFING-L] Marie Deters and Praise for Linda and Dorothy: > > See, Steve......Linda and Dorothy are just awesome sources > of information. I just can't say enough about the two of > them. They're both just so full of knowledge.... I, on the > other hand, am not so meticulous and devoted to Effingham > County geneology....lol. > > Linda is my cousin and she drew me towards this group. I > hope to meet her one day....she's been a blast and has > taught me a lot. Neither of us live in Illinois, Linda is > in southern Arizona and I'm on the east coast near > Philadelphia, PA....so almost 3000 miles are between us. > Wouldn't it be nice if we all had a little meeting at a > diner in Effingham County one day? Ah, one day.... > > I will make it a point to go to the St. Anthony's cemetary > and get a photo of Marie Hilmes' stone for you, Steve. No > problem at all....my uncle and I can practically walk > there. > Well, I would...my uncle wouldn't...he'll get in the > car...lol. > > Matt Smallwood > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 08:59:06 -0700 > "Linda Lambert" <ktlkate@extremezone.com> wrote: > > Since you know when and where she died, have you checked > > for a death record? > > Or.....a burial record from St. Anthony's church. That > > may tell you the > > parents or next of kin. Death records back then are hit > > and miss. Some are > > great, some are not. If it was me, I'd give it a go and > > see what they say. > > > > Linda > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Marsha and Steve Leitzell > > [mailto:sleitzell@mchsi.com] > > > Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 8:49 AM > > > To: ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: Re: [ILEFFING-L] Looking for information on > > Mary Dettert > > > > > > Linda, > > > Thanks. I will have to find out more about her > > family elsewhere. Her > > > husband Barney Hilmes is buried in St. Clare's cemetery > > in Altamont and > > his > > > family was from Breese and Aviston, IL in Clinton Co. > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from > > it, send e-mail to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or > > (for the > > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the > > word subscribe or > > unsubscribe in the message body. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Web mail provided by NuNet, Inc. The Premier National provider. > http://www.nni.com/ > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send e-mail to ILEFFING- > L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word subscribe or > unsubscribe in the message body.

Since you know when and where she died, have you checked for a death record? Or.....a burial record from St. Anthony's church. That may tell you the parents or next of kin. Death records back then are hit and miss. Some are great, some are not. If it was me, I'd give it a go and see what they say. Linda > -----Original Message----- > From: Marsha and Steve Leitzell [mailto:sleitzell@mchsi.com] > Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 8:49 AM > To: ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ILEFFING-L] Looking for information on Mary Dettert > > Linda, > Thanks. I will have to find out more about her family elsewhere. Her > husband Barney Hilmes is buried in St. Clare's cemetery in Altamont and his > family was from Breese and Aviston, IL in Clinton Co. >

I forgot to say that I checked the graves near her and found no apparent link to anyone. It looks to me like she is all alone there. Linda > -----Original Message----- > From: Linda Lambert [mailto:ktlkate@extremezone.com] > Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 7:59 AM > To: ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: [ILEFFING-L] Looking for information on Mary Dettert > > I checked my copy of the "reading" of St. Anthony's Cemetery. I found a > Mary Hilmes, born 18 Jan 1859 and died 1883. If this is the same one, she > is in Section II, Row 6, Grave #1. This reading was compiled by the Ann > Crooker St. Clair Chapter DAR, Volume XII, 1991. > > Hope this helps. > > Linda (in Arizona) > Effingham County IL Mailing List Administrator > Effingham County IL GenWeb Site Volunteer > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Matt Smallwood [mailto:thehinge@magpage.com] > > Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 11:36 PM > > To: ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [ILEFFING-L] Looking for information on Mary Dettert > > > > > > > > Steve, my mother was a Deters......her family settled in Shelby County > > around that period. Her great-grandparents, grandmother and grandfather > and > > several uncles and aunts are buried in the small Catholic cemetary outside > > of Sigel, Illinois. > > > > I don't know that my mother had any great aunts or uncles from Altamont > > though. Marie Hilmes is most likely buried in the cemetary a few hundred > > yards from the house my mother grew up in....which is in Effingham. It's > > large though.....it'll be tough to find her stone, but perhaps she's > buried > > near some of my own relatives. My mother's parents, Elsie and Herbert > > Deters, are buried in the cemetary I speak of. I'm taking some to visit > > family right after Labor Day.....would you like me to try and find Marie's > > stone, Steve? Perhaps her parents are right next to her....could be. She > > did get transported to Effingham and that could be the reason. > > > > Matt Smallwood > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Dorothy Brumleve" <brumleve@insightbb.com> > > To: <ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 3:43 PM > > Subject: Re: [ILEFFING-L] Looking for information on Mary Dettert > > > > > > > Excerpted from Effingham News As Reported in the Effingham Volksblatt, > > > 1884-1886, page 196: > > > > > > (From Thurs, Apr 15, 1886) Died: Mrs. Marie Hilmes, born Deters, died on > > > Sunday monring after suffering about six months from consumption at the > > > age of 30 years at the home of her husband, Mr. B.H. Hilmes, in > > > Altamont. The body was transported here [Effingham] via the Vandalia > > > Railroad on Tuesday, where the funeral at the Catholic cemetery took > > > place with a large number of participants. The deceased leaves behind a > > > grieving husband and four minor children to mourn her early demise. May > > > she rest in peace. > > > > > > Dorothy Brumleve > > > http://www.brumleve.org > > > > > > Marsha and Steve Leitzell wrote: > > > > > > > > I am looking for information on Mary Dettert from Effingham, IL. > > According to her husband's obituary in the Altamont News of June, 1929, > she > > was married to Bernard "Barney" Hilmes of Altamont, IL around 1875 and > > presumably died sometime before 1887. > > > > They lived in Altamont and had a daughter Anna, born 3/14/1878 in > > Altamont and died 7/26/1952 in Altamont. Barney later re-married (to Mary > > K. Lipsmeir-Wasmuth) and they lived in Altamont until their deaths in 1929 > / > > 1926. > > > > Does anyone know who Mary Dettert's parents and family were, and > > when / where she died? > > > > > > > > Steve Leitzell sleitzell@mchsi.com > > > > > > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > > > > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send > > e-mail to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the > > > > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word > subscribe > > or > > > > unsubscribe in the message body. > > > > > > > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > > > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send > e-mail > > to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the > > > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word subscribe > or > > > unsubscribe in the message body. > > > > > > > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send e-mail > to ILEFFING- > > L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the > > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word subscribe or > > unsubscribe in the message body. > > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send e-mail to ILEFFING- > L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word subscribe or > unsubscribe in the message body.

I checked my copy of the "reading" of St. Anthony's Cemetery. I found a Mary Hilmes, born 18 Jan 1859 and died 1883. If this is the same one, she is in Section II, Row 6, Grave #1. This reading was compiled by the Ann Crooker St. Clair Chapter DAR, Volume XII, 1991. Hope this helps. Linda (in Arizona) Effingham County IL Mailing List Administrator Effingham County IL GenWeb Site Volunteer > -----Original Message----- > From: Matt Smallwood [mailto:thehinge@magpage.com] > Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 11:36 PM > To: ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ILEFFING-L] Looking for information on Mary Dettert > > > > Steve, my mother was a Deters......her family settled in Shelby County > around that period. Her great-grandparents, grandmother and grandfather and > several uncles and aunts are buried in the small Catholic cemetary outside > of Sigel, Illinois. > > I don't know that my mother had any great aunts or uncles from Altamont > though. Marie Hilmes is most likely buried in the cemetary a few hundred > yards from the house my mother grew up in....which is in Effingham. It's > large though.....it'll be tough to find her stone, but perhaps she's buried > near some of my own relatives. My mother's parents, Elsie and Herbert > Deters, are buried in the cemetary I speak of. I'm taking some to visit > family right after Labor Day.....would you like me to try and find Marie's > stone, Steve? Perhaps her parents are right next to her....could be. She > did get transported to Effingham and that could be the reason. > > Matt Smallwood > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dorothy Brumleve" <brumleve@insightbb.com> > To: <ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 3:43 PM > Subject: Re: [ILEFFING-L] Looking for information on Mary Dettert > > > > Excerpted from Effingham News As Reported in the Effingham Volksblatt, > > 1884-1886, page 196: > > > > (From Thurs, Apr 15, 1886) Died: Mrs. Marie Hilmes, born Deters, died on > > Sunday monring after suffering about six months from consumption at the > > age of 30 years at the home of her husband, Mr. B.H. Hilmes, in > > Altamont. The body was transported here [Effingham] via the Vandalia > > Railroad on Tuesday, where the funeral at the Catholic cemetery took > > place with a large number of participants. The deceased leaves behind a > > grieving husband and four minor children to mourn her early demise. May > > she rest in peace. > > > > Dorothy Brumleve > > http://www.brumleve.org > > > > Marsha and Steve Leitzell wrote: > > > > > > I am looking for information on Mary Dettert from Effingham, IL. > According to her husband's obituary in the Altamont News of June, 1929, she > was married to Bernard "Barney" Hilmes of Altamont, IL around 1875 and > presumably died sometime before 1887. > > > They lived in Altamont and had a daughter Anna, born 3/14/1878 in > Altamont and died 7/26/1952 in Altamont. Barney later re-married (to Mary > K. Lipsmeir-Wasmuth) and they lived in Altamont until their deaths in 1929 / > 1926. > > > Does anyone know who Mary Dettert's parents and family were, and > when / where she died? > > > > > > Steve Leitzell sleitzell@mchsi.com > > > > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > > > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send > e-mail to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the > > > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word subscribe > or > > > unsubscribe in the message body. > > > > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send e-mail > to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the > > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word subscribe or > > unsubscribe in the message body. > > > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send e-mail to ILEFFING- > L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word subscribe or > unsubscribe in the message body.

Steve, my mother was a Deters......her family settled in Shelby County around that period. Her great-grandparents, grandmother and grandfather and several uncles and aunts are buried in the small Catholic cemetary outside of Sigel, Illinois. I don't know that my mother had any great aunts or uncles from Altamont though. Marie Hilmes is most likely buried in the cemetary a few hundred yards from the house my mother grew up in....which is in Effingham. It's large though.....it'll be tough to find her stone, but perhaps she's buried near some of my own relatives. My mother's parents, Elsie and Herbert Deters, are buried in the cemetary I speak of. I'm taking some to visit family right after Labor Day.....would you like me to try and find Marie's stone, Steve? Perhaps her parents are right next to her....could be. She did get transported to Effingham and that could be the reason. Matt Smallwood ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy Brumleve" <brumleve@insightbb.com> To: <ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 3:43 PM Subject: Re: [ILEFFING-L] Looking for information on Mary Dettert > Excerpted from Effingham News As Reported in the Effingham Volksblatt, > 1884-1886, page 196: > > (From Thurs, Apr 15, 1886) Died: Mrs. Marie Hilmes, born Deters, died on > Sunday monring after suffering about six months from consumption at the > age of 30 years at the home of her husband, Mr. B.H. Hilmes, in > Altamont. The body was transported here [Effingham] via the Vandalia > Railroad on Tuesday, where the funeral at the Catholic cemetery took > place with a large number of participants. The deceased leaves behind a > grieving husband and four minor children to mourn her early demise. May > she rest in peace. > > Dorothy Brumleve > http://www.brumleve.org > > Marsha and Steve Leitzell wrote: > > > > I am looking for information on Mary Dettert from Effingham, IL. According to her husband's obituary in the Altamont News of June, 1929, she was married to Bernard "Barney" Hilmes of Altamont, IL around 1875 and presumably died sometime before 1887. > > They lived in Altamont and had a daughter Anna, born 3/14/1878 in Altamont and died 7/26/1952 in Altamont. Barney later re-married (to Mary K. Lipsmeir-Wasmuth) and they lived in Altamont until their deaths in 1929 / 1926. > > Does anyone know who Mary Dettert's parents and family were, and when / where she died? > > > > Steve Leitzell sleitzell@mchsi.com > > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send e-mail to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the > > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word subscribe or > > unsubscribe in the message body. > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send e-mail to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word subscribe or > unsubscribe in the message body. >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Bg.2ADI/47.1.1.1.2 Message Board Post: i would like any information you might have on mary elsie graves fuston shadwell she is my great grandmother my grandfather was her son wilford george fuston i would like to find out anything you may know.

Excerpted from Effingham News As Reported in the Effingham Volksblatt, 1884-1886, page 196: (From Thurs, Apr 15, 1886) Died: Mrs. Marie Hilmes, born Deters, died on Sunday monring after suffering about six months from consumption at the age of 30 years at the home of her husband, Mr. B.H. Hilmes, in Altamont. The body was transported here [Effingham] via the Vandalia Railroad on Tuesday, where the funeral at the Catholic cemetery took place with a large number of participants. The deceased leaves behind a grieving husband and four minor children to mourn her early demise. May she rest in peace. Dorothy Brumleve http://www.brumleve.org Marsha and Steve Leitzell wrote: > > I am looking for information on Mary Dettert from Effingham, IL. According to her husband's obituary in the Altamont News of June, 1929, she was married to Bernard "Barney" Hilmes of Altamont, IL around 1875 and presumably died sometime before 1887. > They lived in Altamont and had a daughter Anna, born 3/14/1878 in Altamont and died 7/26/1952 in Altamont. Barney later re-married (to Mary K. Lipsmeir-Wasmuth) and they lived in Altamont until their deaths in 1929 / 1926. > Does anyone know who Mary Dettert's parents and family were, and when / where she died? > > Steve Leitzell sleitzell@mchsi.com > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send e-mail to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word subscribe or > unsubscribe in the message body.

During those years what is now Route 45 was Route 25. There is a Dewitt Avenue in Mattoon, Illinois, about 30 miles north from Effingham. ----- Original Message ----- From: <dt09371-order@yahoo.com> To: <ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 5:17 PM Subject: [ILEFFING-L] Address on backup of Picture > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Harris > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Bg.2ADI/275 > > Message Board Post: > > I have a picture from 1920-1930 of my Grandpa Max Harris who was from > Oblong. On the back it has the address of 1808 Dewitt Ave, Route 25 from > Effingham. Would anybody know where this address is located? > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send e-mail > to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word subscribe or > unsubscribe in the message body. > > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Harris Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Bg.2ADI/275 Message Board Post: I have a picture from 1920-1930 of my Grandpa Max Harris who was from Oblong. On the back it has the address of 1808 Dewitt Ave, Route 25 from Effingham. Would anybody know where this address is located?

The University of Missouri offers an online Digital Library, featuring the 1930 plat book for several counties. A cousin sent me the following web address. I was able to view the location of the farm which belonged to the step father of my Great-grandfather. It can be viewed at _http://digital.library.umsystem.edu/cgi/i/image/image-idx?sid=f3459684a363774 5f001a85af5213fda;med=1;q1=platic;rgn1=platic_all;c=platic;evl=full-image;qual ity=1;view=entry;subview=detail;lasttype=boolean;cc=platic;entryid=x-88;viewid =PLA-ST.GENEVIEVE-08.TIF;start=81;resnum=88_ (http://digital.library.umsystem.edu/cgi/i/image/image-idx?sid=f3459684a3637745f001a85af5213fda;med=1;q1=platic ;rgn1=platic_all;c=platic;evl=full-image;quality=1;view=entry;subview=detail;l asttype=boolean;cc=platic;entryid=x-88;viewid=PLA-ST.GENEVIEVE-08.TIF;start=81 ;resnum=88) Does anyone know if a similar feature is available for Effingham County. Ron Repking Flossmoor, IL

I am looking for information on Mary Dettert from Effingham, IL. According to her husband's obituary in the Altamont News of June, 1929, she was married to Bernard "Barney" Hilmes of Altamont, IL around 1875 and presumably died sometime before 1887. They lived in Altamont and had a daughter Anna, born 3/14/1878 in Altamont and died 7/26/1952 in Altamont. Barney later re-married (to Mary K. Lipsmeir-Wasmuth) and they lived in Altamont until their deaths in 1929 / 1926. Does anyone know who Mary Dettert's parents and family were, and when / where she died? Steve Leitzell sleitzell@mchsi.com

Thanks Linda for posting the obit. E ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Lambert" <ktlkate@extremezone.com> To: <ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 2:43 PM Subject: [ILEFFING-L] Terry Huff's Obituary > OK.this time I'll type it out. Sorry about that. This is being posted > with > the permission of Bonnie, Terry's daughter. > > > > HUFF, DEWARD > > > > Beloved Dad, Papa, Coach > > > > Passed away August 16 2005 in Riverside California at the age of 73. He > is > survived by his wife Grace, children Terry of Colorado, Mark of Riverside, > Kris of Riverside, Nancy Embry of Bloomington IN, Bonnie Morgan of Dumont > NJ > and Edward of Bloomington IN, as well as 13 grandchildren and 4 great > grandchildren. Terry proudly served our country in the United States Navy > during the Korean War. He was an accident research specialist for the > Automobile Club of Southern California for 30 years and was on the cutting > edge of accident and arson investigation. Following his retirement, Terry > continued to provide his expertise the past 10 years as a forensic > consultant in accident reconstruction and failure analysis. He received > multiple awards and certificates, including recognition from UCLA, the > Inter-industry Conference on Auto Collision Repair, and Douglas Aircraft > Company. He was a cited consultant on multiple research publications and > taught countless seminars and lectures in his field. Terry served on > multiple boards and commissions, including the Veterans Advisory > Committee, > various school boards, Riverside County Transportation Commission, and > citizen advisory commissions. He also coached Little League baseball and > Pop Warner football, and was the membership chairman of his local Cub > Scout > troop. His dedication to his work and quick sense of humor were only > surpassed by his intense love for his family. It would be difficult to > talk > with Terry for more than a few moments before he would talk about one of > his > children, grandchildren, or great-grandchildren, beaming with pride the > entire time. He will be deeply missed by those who knew and loved him. > Arrangements entrusted to the care of Grimes-Akes Family Funeral Home > (951-737-3771). > > > > Terry was a welcome contributor to our mailing list. He had deep ties to > Effingham County and Teutopolis, in particular. Every time I went back > home, he'd tell me to go up to the Country Kitchen Café and have a > cinnamon > roll for him. > > > > Linda > > Mailing List Administrator > > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send e-mail > to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word subscribe or > unsubscribe in the message body. > > >

OK…this time I’ll type it out. Sorry about that. This is being posted with the permission of Bonnie, Terry’s daughter. HUFF, DEWARD Beloved Dad, Papa, Coach Passed away August 16 2005 in Riverside California at the age of 73. He is survived by his wife Grace, children Terry of Colorado, Mark of Riverside, Kris of Riverside, Nancy Embry of Bloomington IN, Bonnie Morgan of Dumont NJ and Edward of Bloomington IN, as well as 13 grandchildren and 4 great grandchildren. Terry proudly served our country in the United States Navy during the Korean War. He was an accident research specialist for the Automobile Club of Southern California for 30 years and was on the cutting edge of accident and arson investigation. Following his retirement, Terry continued to provide his expertise the past 10 years as a forensic consultant in accident reconstruction and failure analysis. He received multiple awards and certificates, including recognition from UCLA, the Inter-industry Conference on Auto Collision Repair, and Douglas Aircraft Company. He was a cited consultant on multiple research publications and taught countless seminars and lectures in his field. Terry served on multiple boards and commissions, including the Veterans Advisory Committee, various school boards, Riverside County Transportation Commission, and citizen advisory commissions. He also coached Little League baseball and Pop Warner football, and was the membership chairman of his local Cub Scout troop. His dedication to his work and quick sense of humor were only surpassed by his intense love for his family. It would be difficult to talk with Terry for more than a few moments before he would talk about one of his children, grandchildren, or great-grandchildren, beaming with pride the entire time. He will be deeply missed by those who knew and loved him. Arrangements entrusted to the care of Grimes-Akes Family Funeral Home (951-737-3771). Terry was a welcome contributor to our mailing list. He had deep ties to Effingham County and Teutopolis, in particular. Every time I went back home, he’d tell me to go up to the Country Kitchen Café and have a cinnamon roll for him. Linda Mailing List Administrator