Does anyone have reference to an article which had appeared in a German newspaper about 4 to 5 years ago detailing the founding of Teutopolis by German immigrants from the Lohne area in Oldenburg?Thanks,Peter(Chicago)

I wrote to Eleanor direct with all my names and dates - hoping they can help me with them. Thanks to everyone for their help...I may be back. THANKS - Cathy Pentola __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Hi, Gotta have some clues ... My family in that area were Jackson/Spraggins Dixie Lea in K.C... ----- Original Message ----- From: Cathy Pentola To: ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 3:33 PM Subject: [ILEFFING-L] Need help with some obits I need some help obtaining obits from your area. Is there anyone who can help me? Thank you. Cathy Pentola Pittsburg, KS __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send e-mail to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the message body.

Send names and dates of death for the persons you are interested in and we will see if we can help you. Eleanor, member of Effingham County Genealogical and Historical Society. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cathy Pentola" <cpentola@yahoo.com> To: <ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 4:10 PM Subject: RE: [ILEFFING-L] Need help with some obits > Actually, the people lived mostly by Stewardson, > Illinois. I attempted Shelby Co. Hist. Soc., but they > told me they didn't have anything-to try Effingham, > since they lived closer to Effingham. > > Some of the obits go back to the 1930's and come > forward from there. Could you tell me how to find the > Daily News archives? > > Do you happen to know anything about the Bob Doane > Cemetery? I know it is in Fayette Co., but a funeral > home indicated they thought Effingham Co. had the > records... > > Thanks - Cathy > > > > --- Linda Lambert <ktlkate@extremezone.com> wrote: > >> What area of Effingham County? The Effingham Daily >> News in on line and some >> obituaries are in their archives. >> >> Otherwise, I'd suggest getting in touch with the >> Genealogy Society. They >> don't have their own web page, but are headquartered >> in the Helen Mathes >> Library in Effingham. >> >> Linda >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Cathy Pentola [mailto:cpentola@yahoo.com] >> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 1:34 PM >> To: ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [ILEFFING-L] Need help with some obits >> >> I need some help obtaining obits from your area. Is >> there anyone who can help me? >> >> Thank you. >> >> Cathy Pentola >> Pittsburg, KS >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam >> protection around >> http://mail.yahoo.com >> >> >> ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== >> If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe >> from it, send e-mail to >> ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the >> digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put >> the word subscribe or >> unsubscribe in the message body. >> >> >> >> ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== >> If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe >> from it, send e-mail to >> ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the >> digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put >> the word subscribe or >> unsubscribe in the message body. >> >> > > > > > __________________________________ > Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send e-mail > to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word subscribe or > unsubscribe in the message body. > > >

Actually, the people lived mostly by Stewardson, Illinois. I attempted Shelby Co. Hist. Soc., but they told me they didn't have anything-to try Effingham, since they lived closer to Effingham. Some of the obits go back to the 1930's and come forward from there. Could you tell me how to find the Daily News archives? Do you happen to know anything about the Bob Doane Cemetery? I know it is in Fayette Co., but a funeral home indicated they thought Effingham Co. had the records... Thanks - Cathy --- Linda Lambert <ktlkate@extremezone.com> wrote: > What area of Effingham County? The Effingham Daily > News in on line and some > obituaries are in their archives. > > Otherwise, I'd suggest getting in touch with the > Genealogy Society. They > don't have their own web page, but are headquartered > in the Helen Mathes > Library in Effingham. > > Linda > > -----Original Message----- > From: Cathy Pentola [mailto:cpentola@yahoo.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 1:34 PM > To: ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ILEFFING-L] Need help with some obits > > I need some help obtaining obits from your area. Is > there anyone who can help me? > > Thank you. > > Cathy Pentola > Pittsburg, KS > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe > from it, send e-mail to > ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put > the word subscribe or > unsubscribe in the message body. > > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe > from it, send e-mail to > ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put > the word subscribe or > unsubscribe in the message body. > > __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com

What area of Effingham County? The Effingham Daily News in on line and some obituaries are in their archives. Otherwise, I'd suggest getting in touch with the Genealogy Society. They don't have their own web page, but are headquartered in the Helen Mathes Library in Effingham. Linda -----Original Message----- From: Cathy Pentola [mailto:cpentola@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 1:34 PM To: ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ILEFFING-L] Need help with some obits I need some help obtaining obits from your area. Is there anyone who can help me? Thank you. Cathy Pentola Pittsburg, KS __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send e-mail to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the message body.

I need some help obtaining obits from your area. Is there anyone who can help me? Thank you. Cathy Pentola Pittsburg, KS __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Durheim, Hellert, Lotzgesell Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Bg.2ADI/81.1.2 Message Board Post: LaVonne, Tried to contact you via your email, but couldn't get through. Contact me at doosmundson@comcast.net. Sorry it took so long to find your message. I can probably help you with some of our ancestors. Doris

I have a bunch of SEARs' in my database. Am hoping someone can tell me if they are related in anyway. Solomon Sears. Wife: Mary B. Hon Children: Angelina Married: William Isaac Lagle - 2 children: Newton Thompson Lagle in 1843 and Catherine Matilda Lagle. Lucinda Lusetta (No information on the last 2 girls) Catherine Matilda Sears married: Jacobi George J. married Catherine Hon George Jacob (same guy?) John Sears. married: Catherina Margaret Conrad Child: Mary (Molly) Sear b: 1786 married: Michael Sappenfield in 1806.(Bourbon, KY??) and Nancy Sears b: 1/21/1806 d: 10/31/1972 buried Vigo Co., IN. Married: Andrew Ingram, Jr. They lived a long time in Edgar Co., Il. Will welcome any discussion. Dianne Ingram in Oregon ______________________________________________________ Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/

According to the Illinois Central Historical Society "The Illinois Central railroad was chartered in 1851 to build a railroad from Cairo, Il., joining of the Ohio and Mississippi rivers, to Galena, in the extreme northwestern part of the state ( the "Old Main"), with a branch from Centrailia..." I always wondered how my Irish grandfather, William Reedy, a railroad engineer from New Jersey , met my German grandmother, Ida Merz, who was born in Effingham. I think the information I got from Google about the train passing through Effingham answers this question. My search title for google was: Illinois Central Railroad history. ----- Original Message ----- From: <ron_mesnard@hotmail.com> To: <ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 5:33 AM Subject: [ILEFFING-L] Re: Where to find birth records circa 1900 > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Bg.2ADI/276.1.1 > > Message Board Post: > > Thank you for such a thorough "data dump" for this family. The > newsclipping was great. I am related to these folks from when they were > in CT. They are the largest branch of the Mesnards and the family > documentation for them is poor. Such as The mispelling of the name Phebe > Slocum's name and the John III was born in CT to name just two major > errors. The Mesnards had been in the New World for over a century before > he was born. It will take me a while to digest what you sent. Much is > old news but there is still a good deal of new stuff. I am interested in > the Illinois Central Railroad. Do you know when did they started to build > that? I am always interested in migration and motives for migration. > > Thanks again! > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send e-mail > to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word subscribe or > unsubscribe in the message body. > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Bg.2ADI/276.1.1 Message Board Post: Thank you for such a thorough "data dump" for this family. The newsclipping was great. I am related to these folks from when they were in CT. They are the largest branch of the Mesnards and the family documentation for them is poor. Such as The mispelling of the name Phebe Slocum's name and the John III was born in CT to name just two major errors. The Mesnards had been in the New World for over a century before he was born. It will take me a while to digest what you sent. Much is old news but there is still a good deal of new stuff. I am interested in the Illinois Central Railroad. Do you know when did they started to build that? I am always interested in migration and motives for migration. Thanks again!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Bg.2ADI/276.1 Message Board Post: We are not related to this family. We read your post and decided to see if we could help. One of the assets we have available to us is the electronic files of the old Decatur newspapers. Often it is the gossip section of the papers that offer the most clues. We found the following article. Decatur Daily Review, Oct 10, 1924 Struck By Car Oscar Mesnard of Jackson Township, who had been on a visit to his uncle Circuit Clerk Clarence Phillips and family was struck by an auto about 11:30 Thursday Morning and injured. He had started home and at Funkhouser about two miles west of town was standing talking to another man on the pavement. Two cars were coming and passed him and one struck him knocking him to the pavement. He was injured about the head, one shoulder was badly bruised and there were bruises on his neck. He was brought back to town, where he received medical attention. We looked for Clarence Phillips in the 1910 census. Nearby is the family listed below: 1910 Jackson Township, Effingham, IL James Mesnard (indexd as Mesnord), 47, married 18 years, OH, CT, OH Minnie, 40, married 18 years, 8 children, 7 living, IL, England, IL Eugene, 16, IL Nobel, 14, IL Ralph, 11, IL Bertha, 10, IL Harvy, 8, IL Joe, 5, IL Osker, 1, IL The 1920 census adds a daughter Bertha C, 1?, IL, but does not show a Bertha b. abt 1900. It maybe the same child. 1900 Jackson, Effingham, Illinois James S Mesnard, abt 1863, Ohio Minnie J Mesnard, abt 1870, Illinois Eugene L Mesnard, abt 1894, Illinois Noble O Mesnard, abt 1896, Illinois Ralph W Mesnard, abt 1899, Illinois Bertha C Mesnard, abt 1900, Illinois From Illinois marriage records: JAMES S A MESNARD married MINNIE BALLARD on 02/10/1892 in EFFINGHAM Co. CLARENCE M PHILLIPS married ROSA BALLARD on 01/30/1898 in EFFINGHAM Co. 1880 Jackson, Effingham, Illinois Samuel WINTERS, 63, OH, Farmer, PA, PA Mary J. WINTERS, 53, TN, Keeping House, VA, VA William WINTERS, 28, IL, OH, TN Menoro WINTERS, 6, IL, IL, IN Mary CINCH, 17, IN, IRE, IRE John HUNTER, 82, SCO, Cabonet Maker, SCO, SCO James MESNARD, 17, IL, Workhand, OH, OH Solomon MESNARD, 54, CT, Farmer, FRANCE, ENG. Mary J. MESNARD, 23, IL, Keeping House, TN, TN William MESNARD1, 16, OH, CT, OH Anna A. MESNARD, 7, IL, CT, OH Lilla M. MESNARD, 2M, IL, CT, IL William GARDNER, 23, IL, Workhand, VA, VA B. BALLARD, 51, ENG, Farmer, ENG, ENG Martha C. BALLARD, 42, IL, Keeping House, NC, TN James W. BALLARD, 20, IL, ENG, IL Charles M. BALLARD, 17, IL, ENG, IL Emma F. BALLARD, 14, IL, ENG, IL Arminda J. BALLARD, 11, IL, ENG, IL Martha R. BALLARD, 5, IL, ENG, IL Files on Ancestry.com say that Martha R is Martha Rosa and that she did marry Clarence Phillips. Arminda looks like Minnie could be a nickname. 1860 Township 7 N Range 4 E, Effingham, IL Benj Bellard, 29, 1830, England Martha Bellard, 20, 1839, Illinois Eliza C Bellard, 3, 1856, Illinois Township 8 N Range 5 E, Effingham, IL Soloman Mesnard, 33, 1826, New York Mary Mesnard, 30, 1829, Ohio Rebecca E Mesnard, 13, 1846, Illinois Delila J Mesnard, 7, 1852, Illinois John H Mesnard, 5, 1854, Illinois Alva M Mesnard, 2.12,, Illinois 1850 Not Stated, Effingham, IL James Cartright, abt 1803, Virginia Catherine Cartright, abt 1808, Tennessee Martha Cartright, abt 1838, Illinois Adaline Cartright, abt 1839, Illinois Mahala E Cartright, abt 1841, Illinois Nancy A Cartright, abt 1842, Illinois Henry Cartright, abt 1845, Illinois Amanda G Cartright, abt 1847, Illinois Lucinda G Cartright, abt 1847, Illinois Isaac T Cartright, abt 1850, Illinois The Book Title: History of Effingham County, Illinois City of Publication: Chicago Publisher: O.L. Baskin & Co. Date: 1883 Has a bio on Solomon Mesnard. The important parts of the Bio are: He was born in CT, the son of John Mesnard. He moved to Fairfield Co, OH in 1834, and on to Effingham Co, IL in 1842. He married Miss Mary Spliter in Fairfield Co., OH on August 10, 1846. She was the Daughter of Henry Spliter. They moved to Effingham Co., IL. Solomon enlisted in Company G, 115 IL Vol. and served for the duration of the war. Mary Spliter died on Oct 18, 1877. Children by this marriage were? Rebecca Clum, Delila Drum, Allie Parks, John H, James A (on the marriage license James is James S A), William S and Annie A. On April 7, 1878 Solomon married Mary J Reed in Shelby Co. Their children were Lela and Robert A. Solomon’s Father, John, was born in France on March 4, 1789. He came to New York at the age of 17. He was married to Phebe Slocum in CT. He moved back to New York City and remained there until 1832 when he moved to Fairfield Co., OH. He moved to Effingham Co., IL in 1842. He died at the Residence of his son on August 14, 1868. His wife died on May 13, 1860 at the age of 67. Also in the book is a bio Addison Mesnard (son of John and Phebe). He moved to Effingham Co., IL in 1841. The same book has a bio on Benjamin Ballard. The important parts of the Bio are: Ben is the son of William and Eliza Ballard and was born in England in 1830. At the age of 21 he came to New York City on Nov 22nd 1851 (note: it should be 1852). Ben was penny less when he landed in New York after a rough voyage of 42 days. He worked at a wage of $8 per month until he could afford a ticket out of New York. Fortunately he made a mistake and purchased a ticket to Columbus, OH instead of where he wanted to go. When he got to Columbus, he heard about the Illinois Central Railroad and started for Effingham Co., IL. Part by stage coach and part on foot. He worked first with a wheelbarrow and then as a driver on a scraper. In a period of 3 months he earned a total of $400. Ben married Martha Cartwright, dau of James and Catherine Cartwright, in 1855. Benjamin and Martha’s children were Eliza, wife of Carless Wilmeth – born Sept 8, 1857; Charles A, born March 14, 1863; Emily F born October 2, 1865: Arminda J born Nov 15, 1869; Martha R born Dec 20, ! 1874. They also had a son James born Oct 12, 1860 and died June 10, 1882. The 1900 Census says that Benjamin Ballard immigrated in 1852. If so, then this would be his immigration record: Name: Benj Ballard Arrival Date: 17 Nov 1852 Estimated Birth Year: 1831; Age: 21; Gender: Male Port of Departure: London, England; Place of Origin: England Destination: United States of America Ship Name: Prince Albert; Port of arrival: New York This is all we can do.

Since many of our List-members are scattered around the country, this seemed to be a good RESOURCE LINK to keep track of. It came via our local Librarian -- I've included Deena's name as well as her position there. I just wanted to make everyone on the list aware that Genealogy Today has a calendar for promoting family history and genealogy events. If you (or your local society) is planning a conference, seminar or annual meeting, please feel free to submit an announcment to our free calendar using the links below. http://www.genealogycalendar.com or http://news.genealogytoday.com/calendar/ *:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'`` Deena Hartray Butta Reference Librarian Genealogy Specialist Glenview Public Library 1930 Glenview Rd. Glenview IL 60025 (847) 729 7500 x152 www.glenviewpl.org

Hope all of our subscribers will find this information helpful. The information transcribed below was originally found by my cousin Penny and shared with me. It might be helpful to others and in some way help my cousins and I to find out more about our German ancestors who immigrated to the United States and settled in Effingham County. This is a literal translation of a German document and mistakes are entirely possible. " On 14 October 1854 Burgermeister Seeger made a contract with Walter and Reinhard in Mannheim with their agent Karl Kurz in Karlsruhe. The contract was for 100 people from Grisssheim, Baden, Germany to immigrate to the United States. Their journey would take them from Grissheim to Heitersheim, Mannheim to Koln, to Antwerp, Belgium and by ship to New York. The families making the trip were: Raphael Schwable, Thada Hipp, Kaspar Schwable, Franz Thoma, Kolumbian Schegel, Ignaz Schwable, Simon Weiss, Sales Manlet, Erasmus Trosch, Lukas Gsoll, Johann Ritezenthaler, Friedrich Gfoell, Lukas Martin, Peter Schwable, Ludperta Kraus and Franz Weiss. The names of women and children were not shown in the article. Note: Our great-great grandmother Rosina Hipp-Trosch immigrated with our great-great-grandfather Erasmus Trosch. There were 60 adults, 45 children. They sailed from Antwerp on/or/about 24 November 1854. Our great-great-grandparents settled in Effingham County around ! 1855-56. Our first record of them living there is the 1860 Census Arasmus Thrash, wife Rosena, son Henry and daughter Caroline. " I am in the process of getting a verbatim translation of the article done for us and I am willing to share it with all when and if completed. Hope this is helpful to others. If someone comes across any more information on our family and their live in Effingham County please share it with us. Orville W. "Buck" Troesch

The 1900 census for Jackson Twp. Effingham Co. has the wife's name as Minnie J. It also indicates that she had 5 children, 4 living. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marsha McWilliams" <marsha.mcw@mchsi.com> To: <ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 8:32 AM Subject: RE: [ILEFFING-L] Where to find birth records circa 1900 > Could the Osker below be your Oscar? > 1910 Effingham Co, IL, Jackson twp, pg. 144b: > MESNARD James 47 OH Connecticut OH > Misurie 40 IL England IL > Eugene 16 IL > Noble 14 IL > Ralph 11 IL > Bertha 10 IL > Harvey 8 IL > Joe 5 IL > ~> Osker 1 IL > The writing on this census is very small and I'm not sure about the spelling > of "Misurie." Hope this helps. > > -----Original Message----- > From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com [mailto:gc-gateway@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > ron_mesnard@hotmail.com > Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 6:58 AM > To: ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ILEFFING-L] Where to find birth records circa 1900 > Message Board Post: > > The census for the Mesnards in this area is unusually poor. They had been > in the first wave of settlers. The census before 1920 does not really > reflect family information. I am looking for the parents of Oscar Chapman > Mesnard. If the census were complete that would have been the place to find > that info. How can I find this information? He was born in IL and most > likely Effinghan Co 1-1-1909. > > > > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send e-mail to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word subscribe or > unsubscribe in the message body. > > >

Could the Osker below be your Oscar? 1910 Effingham Co, IL, Jackson twp, pg. 144b: MESNARD James 47 OH Connecticut OH Misurie 40 IL England IL Eugene 16 IL Noble 14 IL Ralph 11 IL Bertha 10 IL Harvey 8 IL Joe 5 IL ~> Osker 1 IL The writing on this census is very small and I'm not sure about the spelling of "Misurie." Hope this helps. -----Original Message----- From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com [mailto:gc-gateway@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of ron_mesnard@hotmail.com Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 6:58 AM To: ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ILEFFING-L] Where to find birth records circa 1900 Message Board Post: The census for the Mesnards in this area is unusually poor. They had been in the first wave of settlers. The census before 1920 does not really reflect family information. I am looking for the parents of Oscar Chapman Mesnard. If the census were complete that would have been the place to find that info. How can I find this information? He was born in IL and most likely Effinghan Co 1-1-1909.

My Great-Uncle was Ben Deters. Here is his obituary. The house mentioned towards the end is the brick house on the east side of the blacktop a block south of the main highway in Dieterich. His widow, Mary Petry Brummer, next married George Overbeck. She preferred to be called Marie. My Mother, Ida Lustig, lived with the Deters while she attended high school in Dieterich in 1921-1923. According her year book, it looks as though there were only three years of high school, not the current four. Obituary: Dieterich Special Gazette - December 5, 1935 Ben F Deters Fatally Wounded by Friend While Hunting Quail Accidentally Shot by George F. Schrieber Jr. Load Entered Right Groin Piercing Abdomen Ben F. Deters, aged 49 years, was fatally wounded in a hunting tragedy last Friday afternoon about 1:30 o'clock when he was accidentally shot by George F. Schrieber of Peoria. The full charge of the quail load from a 12 gauge shot gun entered the victim just above the right groin. Death occurred within twenty minutes after the tragic accident. News of the accident spread over a wide area like wild-fire bring sadness and grief as it was flashed around. It came as a shock to the entire community. The following account is given by George F. Schrieber, the only witness to the accidental slaying. Mr.Deters and Mr.Schrieber, intimate friends fro many years, had hunted together annually for something like fifteen years, and had planned the fatal hunt as early as last summer. After parking Mr.deters truck on the county line, six and one half miles south and a mile east of Dieterich, and eating a lunch, they started across the field southwestward. They entered the Henry Haman farm from the south, at a point about a half mile south of the Haman premises and a half mile west of the county line where they had their car parked. After entering the Haman pasture field about 1 o'clock, they became separated, but within hearing distance of each other. While crawling through a crab apple thicket on his hands and knees, Schrieber flushed a covey of quail, and succeeded in getting one shot at the covey from a sitting position. He called out to Deters who heard the shot and had already started towards Schrieber. The quail flew in a northeasterly direction from the creek thicket from where they had been flushed. When Deters came up from the south and joined his companion, the two started in pursuit, in the direction which the quails had flown. As they neared the point where the quails had come down, Mr.Deters bird dog came to a point just ahead of the two men. As they slowly moved forward, a single quail, came up and flew between Deters and Schrieber, seeking the only cover in the field - where it had been flushed a few minutes earlier by Schrieber. Mr.Schrieber who was on the left, turned to his right and Mr.deters turned to his left. As the two men were in the act of turning, in an about face position, Mr.Schrieber's gun accidentally discharged as the two had about reached a position facing each other, and about twenty feet apart. At the report of the gun, Mr.deters said something, which Mr.Schrieber did not understand, took two steps forward and fell to the ground on his face. It was at this point that Mr.Schrieber realized that the accidental discharge of his gun had wounded his companion, Dropping his gun, Schrieber ran to the side of Deters. Mr.Deters evidentially was unconscious as soon as he fell, for he failed to respond to a question asked by his hunting companion, Mr.Schrieber turned the victim on his side and made a hurried examination. When he first noticed the large blood stain, Schrieber thought the charge had entered the upper part of the right limb, but a moment later further examination revealed the exact location of the wound, and he knew it was very bad. Being no other person in sight and unable to carry Mr.deters, who was many pounds heavier than himself, he started out for the Haman farm home, 60 rods due north of the scene of the tragedy. Schrieber ran so fast that when he burst into the Haman home, he collapsed. In broken breath he told of the accident and asked Haman's to get their car and quickly drive down the field and help him get the wounded man to the hospital. Haman's had their auto radiator drained and suggested they call their neighbor, Wm C Martins, who had his car out and ready to go to Dieterich. Mr.Martins was in his house as the telephone call came in. He rushed out to his car and hurried over to the Haman farm, less than a quarter of a mile away. Here he was joined by Mr.Schrieber and Mr.Haman and the three hurriedly drove the car down through the field to where Mr.Deters was lying, unmoved from the position in which Mr.Schrieber had placed him less than twenty minutes earlier. When the men reached the side of Mr.Deters, the witnesses said, he was still breathing, but before they could place him in the car, he had passed away. It is said when the men arrived they found Mr.Deters black setter lying very near his head and refused to move, remaining there until the body was later removed in the Johnson ambulance. As there was nothing could be done now, Mr.Schrieber asked the Martins to drive back up to the house and telephone the sheriff. Sheriff Ervin called coroner C M Doty, who came out as quickly as he could. Upon his arrival all the facts were carefully noted and witnesses questioned and a jury impaneled, setting the inquest for the following evening at 5 o'clock which was held at the City Hall Council Chamber in Dieterich. Since all the facts had been previously established in the presence of the impaneled jury, the inquest took on only a formal procedure. Aside from establishing facts demanded from the state department, which was given by C J Steppe and relatives present,, Schrieber was the only witness questioned. He gave facts in detail freely and as best as he could recall them from a greatly perturbed mind, and were substantially as given above. The jury brought in the following verdict: the deceased (Ben F Deters) came to his death as a result of a shot gun wound, fired accidentally from the hands of George F Schrieber. Submitted by George Horn, foreman, George Groothuis, John Bannick, Frank Hardin, Robert Haack and Edward Draves. This is the worst hunting tragedy to occur in this immediate vicinity since the fatal shooting of a son of Mr. and Mrs.Dan Ordner of northwest of here while hunting with Paul Petry, both then were only boys. George F Schrieber, 36, the son of Mr. and Mrs.George Schrieber, Sr, who reside south of Dieterich, is employed as a foreman in the Peoria Caterpillar manufacturing company. He plainly showed the mental strain of the unfortunate accident, both at the inquest and the funeral. It is perhaps one of the worst ordeals he has experienced in his life. Exonerated by the coroner's jury, he is also held blameless by the sorrowing widow and relatives of the family. ---------- Pall Bearers, Floral Bearers, Firing Squad Pall Bearers were: Allie Westendorf, Arthur Field, Ed Hutmacher, Fred Fritscher, Herman Davis, Lloyd Wiles, Earl Lewis and John Woody. Flower Bearers were: Mrs.Henry Alt, Mrs.Henry Bersig, Mrs.Chas DuBois Mrs.Wm Huelsbach, Mrs.Lillian Schwerdt, Mrs.Nell Bloom, Mrs. G R Clark, Mrs.Anton Broeringsmeyer, Mrs.Margaret Petty, Mrs.John Groves, Ruth Guest, Isabelle Bates, Elinor Brummer, Deloris Wahl of St Louis, Mrs.Lucian Deters and Lorraine Deters. ------------ Card of Thanks I deeply appreciate the many kind act shown me during my hour of bereavement and sorrow and use this means of extending heartfelt thanks to the hind friends and neighbors for lightening my burden and assisting in so many ways; to the Reverend Father Martin; the legionaries and Veterans of Foreign Wars; Legion Auxiliary; for the many beautiful floral remembrances and to Father Doyle. -- Mrs.B F Deters. --------------- FUNERAL OF B F DETERS LARGEST EVER HELD HERE Flag draped coffin conveyed by caisson One of the largest and most impressive funeral services ever held in Dieterich was the last sad rites for Ben F Deters, on Monday morning. All seating and standing room of the Immaculate Conception Church was crowded to capacity. The nearby school held a great number of the overflow audience, and many braved the chill wind standing outside. A large number of persons who came to pay their last respect never attempted to gain admittance but remained uptown. The body, dressed in a beautiful O D serge uniform, reposing in a beautiful cherry stained casket, draped with a large American flag, was viewed by hundreds from Saturday morning until Monday morning at ten o'clock. The funeral and burial service was in the charge of the local and county Legionnaires and Veterans of Foreign Wars. Eight exservice men served as pall bearers. The body was borne from the late home on a caisson to the church and from the church to the cemetery, drawn by three teams of white horses hitched in tandem. The left horse of each team was mounted with an exservice man except the horse hitched to the caisson, which was saddled but riderless. A Colors squad preceded the funeral cortege from the residence to the church and thence to the cemetery. An escort of exservice men and the firing squad followed the caisson. Following the escort came the autos carrying the bereaved widow and relatives, and a long procession of people on foot and in cars. Members of the Legion Auxiliary acted as floral bearers. In the absence of Rev O J Wernett, who is confined in St Anthony's Hospital, Rev Fr Martin of Teutopolis read the Requiem Mass and made a beautiful and impressive funeral address. He also officiated at the grave side, following which the military burial service, including taps and a salute were rendered. The deceased was born in Dieterich, November 8, 1886. He graduate from the eighth grade of the Dieterich public school. He spent a short period of his early life in the northwest. He had a winsome disposition and always endeavored to be at peace with everyone, and was a man of good character and moderate habits, honest and upright. On the 10th of May 1910, he was united in marriage with Mrs.Mary Bremer, nee Petry. His popularity can possibly best be brought out by his being elected to four consecutive terms as assessor of Bishop Township. In 1934, he was honored with the nomination as a candidate for sheriff of Effingham County, winning over a large field of Democratic opponents. He failed of election by a very small margin in the fall election. He was among the first to volunteer his services during the World War. He was assigned to Camp Taylor and became a member of Battery E of the 327th Field Artillery, the unit with which he remained and saw overseas service. When he was mustered out at the close of the war with a honorable discharge, he held the rating of first sergeant. He followed in many pursuits until a few years ago, when he gave most of his time to looking after his farms. Mr.Deters took a lively interest in exservice men's affairs, and at the time of his death he held the post of Sergeant of Arms in the Legion's Last Man's Club. He also held other posts in veteran's organizations. Sharing in the estate of his father, the late Jos Deters, together with his previous holdings and recent purchases he was one of the leading land owners in this vicinity, and had made great plans for the future development of his farms, having spread 130 tons of lime on the Meyer farm east of town alone. A new home, ultra modern in every respect and one of the finest in the county, was almost completed. They moved into this spacious, beautiful home about a month ago. While he was privileged to use it but for a short time, it will stand in his memory for years to come. Surviving besides the sorrowing widow are two brothers, Geo of Dieterich and George of Indianapolis; two sisters, Mrs.Anna Mindrup of Terre Haute and Mrs.Mary Westendorf of Dieterich, other relatives and a legion of friends, whom we join in extending a heartfelt sympathy.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Bg.2ADI/276 Message Board Post: The census for the Mesnards in this area is unusually poor. They had been in the first wave of settlers. The census before 1920 does not really reflect family information. I am looking for the parents of Oscar Chapman Mesnard. If the census were complete that would have been the place to find that info. How can I find this information? He was born in IL and most likely Effinghan Co 1-1-1909.

Hello:Does anyone out there have a reference or copy out there of an article that detailed the founding of T-Town ,which originally appeared in a German newspaper a number of years back? Peter P Meyer

Now I have yet another dimension for your search for your relative, Steve. My uncle in Effingham, Paul Deters, told me just an hour ago that there was a Dettert family in Effingham, too. A Dettert family were his neighbors. So the Detterts aren't related to me. If the woman in the plot that Dorothy mentioned in St. Anthony's Cemetary is Mary or Marie Deters, she might not be related to either of us. My uncle said, as I suspected, that he knew of no Deters in Altamount that were related to us. Ah....mystery becomes more complex....lol. My uncle has suggested a trip to find a birth certificate, too.....that might clear it up a little more. Matt Smallwood On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 11:36:32 -0500 "Marsha and Steve Leitzell" <sleitzell@mchsi.com> wrote: > Thank you Matt. I appreciate it. > Steve > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <thehinge@magpage.com> > To: <ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 11:26 AM > Subject: [ILEFFING-L] Marie Deters and Praise for Linda > and Dorothy: > > > > See, Steve......Linda and Dorothy are just awesome > sources > > of information. I just can't say enough about the two > of > > them. They're both just so full of knowledge.... I, on > the > > other hand, am not so meticulous and devoted to > Effingham > > County geneology....lol. > > > > Linda is my cousin and she drew me towards this group. > I > > hope to meet her one day....she's been a blast and has > > taught me a lot. Neither of us live in Illinois, Linda > is > > in southern Arizona and I'm on the east coast near > > Philadelphia, PA....so almost 3000 miles are between > us. > > Wouldn't it be nice if we all had a little meeting at > a > > diner in Effingham County one day? Ah, one day.... > > > > I will make it a point to go to the St. Anthony's > cemetary > > and get a photo of Marie Hilmes' stone for you, Steve. > No > > problem at all....my uncle and I can practically walk > > there. > > Well, I would...my uncle wouldn't...he'll get in the > > car...lol. > > > > Matt Smallwood > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 08:59:06 -0700 > > "Linda Lambert" <ktlkate@extremezone.com> wrote: > > > Since you know when and where she died, have you > checked > > > for a death record? > > > Or.....a burial record from St. Anthony's church. > That > > > may tell you the > > > parents or next of kin. Death records back then are > hit > > > and miss. Some are > > > great, some are not. If it was me, I'd give it a go > and > > > see what they say. > > > > > > Linda > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Marsha and Steve Leitzell > > > [mailto:sleitzell@mchsi.com] > > > > Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 8:49 AM > > > > To: ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com > > > > Subject: Re: [ILEFFING-L] Looking for information > on > > > Mary Dettert > > > > > > > > Linda, > > > > Thanks. I will have to find out more about her > > > family elsewhere. Her > > > > husband Barney Hilmes is buried in St. Clare's > cemetery > > > in Altamont and > > > his > > > > family was from Breese and Aviston, IL in Clinton > Co. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > > > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe > from > > > it, send e-mail to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or > > > (for the > > > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put > the > > > word subscribe or > > > unsubscribe in the message body. > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Web mail provided by NuNet, Inc. The Premier National > provider. > > http://www.nni.com/ > > > > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe > from it, send e-mail > to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the > > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put > the word subscribe or > > unsubscribe in the message body. > > > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from > it, send e-mail to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or > (for the > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the > word subscribe or > unsubscribe in the message body. > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Web mail provided by NuNet, Inc. The Premier National provider. http://www.nni.com/