Hi, I would be very interested to see all the surnames in that class. Thanks Marla ----- Original Message ----- From: <HTHS57@aol.com> To: <ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 12:17 AM Subject: [ILEFFING-L] Shumway High School Class of 1903 > I have the program for the graduation of the Class of 1903 in Shumway. > There were seven class members: > Lucy SMITH, Secretary > Mamie HAUMESSER, Salutatorian > Flossie KELLY > Le Roy H. PHIFER, President > George H. LAUE > Roy. H. KELLY, Valedictorian > Frank M. PHIFER > > I am the granddaughter of Le Roy Phifer, who was a dentist. My great uncle, > Frank Phifer, was a physician. Considering these two very bright men were not > the top of the class, leaves me with respect for the group as a whole. > Does anyone know what happened to any of the others? > > Minnie LAUE was my grandmother, Lillie ENGEL's maid of honor. > > I shall be happy to email a copy of the program to anyone who is interested. > Lynn Phifer > > > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send e-mail to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word subscribe or > unsubscribe in the message body. >

I have the program for the graduation of the Class of 1903 in Shumway. There were seven class members: Lucy SMITH, Secretary Mamie HAUMESSER, Salutatorian Flossie KELLY Le Roy H. PHIFER, President George H. LAUE Roy. H. KELLY, Valedictorian Frank M. PHIFER I am the granddaughter of Le Roy Phifer, who was a dentist. My great uncle, Frank Phifer, was a physician. Considering these two very bright men were not the top of the class, leaves me with respect for the group as a whole. Does anyone know what happened to any of the others? Minnie LAUE was my grandmother, Lillie ENGEL's maid of honor. I shall be happy to email a copy of the program to anyone who is interested. Lynn Phifer

Samuel Southern is not listed in any of the Effingham Co. cemetery books. Our death records on micro-film start with 1878. I did check them and he was not listed. Audrey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Merle Southern" <mjsouth@rollanet.org> To: <ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 4:41 PM Subject: [ILEFFING-L] Death Records - Effingham Co > Can someone point me in the right direction to determine if a Samuel Southern died and is buried in the Effingham County, IL, area. He is listed in the 1870 Effingham Co, IL, census. His wife Susan and their children moved to Jasper Co, MO, abt 1875. Samuel either stayed in behind with his son Thomas Southern or passed sometime during the period 1870 and 1875. Thank you for your help. Merle Southern > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send e-mail to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word subscribe or > unsubscribe in the message body. > > >

Audrey - Thanks for your help. Merle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Audrey Garbe" <audrey@effingham.net> To: <ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 9:34 AM Subject: Re: [ILEFFING-L] Thomas and Clara (Nash) Southern Marriage > In 1878 they started putting in more information such as parents, ages, > and witnesses, until then it was just the couples names and who married > them. > > Audrey > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Merle Southern" <mjsouth@rollanet.org> > To: <ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 10:10 PM > Subject: Re: [ILEFFING-L] Thomas and Clara (Nash) Southern Marriage > > > > Audrey - Thanks so much for your assistance. I should have ask the > question > > whether there were any witnesses, etc.listed ? > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Audrey Garbe" <audrey@effingham.net> > > To: <ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 4:18 PM > > Subject: Re: [ILEFFING-L] Thomas and Clara (Nash) Southern Marriage > > > > > > > Yes the were, by Samuel T. Hillis J.P. bk b p 149 > > > > > > Audrey > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Merle Southern" <mjsouth@rollanet.org> > > > To: <ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 3:51 PM > > > Subject: [ILEFFING-L] Thomas and Clara (Nash) Southern Marriage > > > > > > > > > > Can someone confirm that a Thomas Southern and a Clara Nash were > > married > > > in Effingham, IL, Aug 26, 1873. Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > > > > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send > > > e-mail to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the > > > > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word > > subscribe > > > or > > > > unsubscribe in the message body. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > > > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send > e-mail > > to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the > > > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word > subscribe or > > > unsubscribe in the message body. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send > e-mail to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the > > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word subscribe > or > > unsubscribe in the message body. > > > > > > > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send e-mail to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word subscribe or > unsubscribe in the message body. > > >

Can someone point me in the right direction to determine if a Samuel Southern died and is buried in the Effingham County, IL, area. He is listed in the 1870 Effingham Co, IL, census. His wife Susan and their children moved to Jasper Co, MO, abt 1875. Samuel either stayed in behind with his son Thomas Southern or passed sometime during the period 1870 and 1875. Thank you for your help. Merle Southern

Speaking of marriages, for those who don't know about it, there's the IL State Archives marriage database. The site also includes death and military records <http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/GenealogyMWeb/marrsrch.html> I was wondering if anyone has obtained records from the State Archives since the policy was changed for out of state researchers. Two months before the change, I wrote asking for death records on my grandmother's father and stepmother John N. and Ladosca Frances Loy, who died in Effingham Co. Family records (probably derived from cemetery stones) gave John died 20 July 1930 and Frances died 21 June 1933. However, the online records show John with that year but with Frances' day and month, and Frances with her year but John's day and month. Apparently the tomb stones are wrong! I wanted to get actual copies of these for my records. Unfortunately, though sent in plenty of time, my request was marked "received" the day after the deadline, and returned to me asking for $20 if I wanted the search. Being on a tight budget after cancer treatment and returning to school, I've had to put this off. From what I understand, only those with out of state addresses have to pay. Is that true? If so, perhaps someone in IL could order this for me.

In 1878 they started putting in more information such as parents, ages, and witnesses, until then it was just the couples names and who married them. Audrey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Merle Southern" <mjsouth@rollanet.org> To: <ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 10:10 PM Subject: Re: [ILEFFING-L] Thomas and Clara (Nash) Southern Marriage > Audrey - Thanks so much for your assistance. I should have ask the question > whether there were any witnesses, etc.listed ? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Audrey Garbe" <audrey@effingham.net> > To: <ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 4:18 PM > Subject: Re: [ILEFFING-L] Thomas and Clara (Nash) Southern Marriage > > > > Yes the were, by Samuel T. Hillis J.P. bk b p 149 > > > > Audrey > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Merle Southern" <mjsouth@rollanet.org> > > To: <ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 3:51 PM > > Subject: [ILEFFING-L] Thomas and Clara (Nash) Southern Marriage > > > > > > > Can someone confirm that a Thomas Southern and a Clara Nash were > married > > in Effingham, IL, Aug 26, 1873. Thanks. > > > > > > > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > > > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send > > e-mail to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the > > > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word > subscribe > > or > > > unsubscribe in the message body. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send e-mail > to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the > > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word subscribe or > > unsubscribe in the message body. > > > > > > > > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send e-mail to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word subscribe or > unsubscribe in the message body. > >

Audrey - Thanks so much for your assistance. I should have ask the question whether there were any witnesses, etc.listed ? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Audrey Garbe" <audrey@effingham.net> To: <ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 4:18 PM Subject: Re: [ILEFFING-L] Thomas and Clara (Nash) Southern Marriage > Yes the were, by Samuel T. Hillis J.P. bk b p 149 > > Audrey > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Merle Southern" <mjsouth@rollanet.org> > To: <ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 3:51 PM > Subject: [ILEFFING-L] Thomas and Clara (Nash) Southern Marriage > > > > Can someone confirm that a Thomas Southern and a Clara Nash were married > in Effingham, IL, Aug 26, 1873. Thanks. > > > > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send > e-mail to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the > > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word subscribe > or > > unsubscribe in the message body. > > > > > > > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send e-mail to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word subscribe or > unsubscribe in the message body. > > >

Hi, Do you have any other information on your NASH family from Effingham County, ILL. I have NASH family from Richland and I believe Effingham County as well. Thanks, Joyce Brookings, OR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Merle Southern" <mjsouth@rollanet.org> To: <ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 1:51 PM Subject: [ILEFFING-L] Thomas and Clara (Nash) Southern Marriage > Can someone confirm that a Thomas Southern and a Clara Nash were married in Effingham, IL, Aug 26, 1873. Thanks. > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send e-mail to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word subscribe or > unsubscribe in the message body. > >

Yes the were, by Samuel T. Hillis J.P. bk b p 149 Audrey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Merle Southern" <mjsouth@rollanet.org> To: <ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 3:51 PM Subject: [ILEFFING-L] Thomas and Clara (Nash) Southern Marriage > Can someone confirm that a Thomas Southern and a Clara Nash were married in Effingham, IL, Aug 26, 1873. Thanks. > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send e-mail to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word subscribe or > unsubscribe in the message body. > >

Can someone confirm that a Thomas Southern and a Clara Nash were married in Effingham, IL, Aug 26, 1873. Thanks.

What German churches were in or near Mason between 1864 and 1870 when my gg-grandmother Anna Mannherz (Manhart) transferred her membership to a Methodist church in Sedalia Missouri from "Ev. Ger. Mason Ill."? The family included parents George H. Manhart born in Baden about 1818, mother Anna born in Pennsylvania about 1822, and children (all born in Pennsylvania) Mary Elizabeth b. July 1852, Emma b. about 1854, George b. about 1856. Rebecca b. November, 1859, Susanna b. January 1860, John b. September 22, 1863, Jacob b. about 1864. Since Jacob was born in Pennsylvania in 1864 and they are in Bowling Green, Missouri in the 1870 census, they must not have been in Illinois for long. Any information about this family will be greatly appreciated. I am also sending this message to the Mason County list. Thanks in advance Alison mcintyr@uakron.edu

Audrey - Thanks for your assistance. I'm positive that this is my GGgrandfather and his family. All the dates fit except for Susan. Her cem stone shows her birth date as 1812, but the 1880 Jasper Co, MO census shows her being born in 1824. Again, thanks for your help. Merle Southern, Rolla, MO ----- Original Message ----- From: "Audrey Garbe" <audrey@effingham.net> To: <ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 8:45 PM Subject: Re: [ILEFFING-L] Samuel Southern and Family > Southern, Samuel 52 farm laborer N.C. > Susan 45 VA (the word "east" was in front of VA but was marked out) > Thomas 18 farm worker N.C. > Alpherd 12 N. C. > Mary 12 N.C. > > Audrey > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Merle Southern" <mjsouth@rollanet.org> > To: <ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 8:29 PM > Subject: [ILEFFING-L] Samuel Southern and Family > > > > Reportedly the 1870 Effingham County, IL, Watson Twp, census shows a > Samuel Southern/Southard and his wife Susan, and children Thomas, Alfred, > and Mary. Could someone please varify this info and provide the State and > year each was born. I believe this may be my long lost Greatgrandfather and > grandmother. Thank you for your assistance. > > > > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send > e-mail to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the > > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word subscribe > or > > unsubscribe in the message body. > > > > > > > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send e-mail to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word subscribe or > unsubscribe in the message body. > > >

Southern, Samuel 52 farm laborer N.C. Susan 45 VA (the word "east" was in front of VA but was marked out) Thomas 18 farm worker N.C. Alpherd 12 N. C. Mary 12 N.C. Audrey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Merle Southern" <mjsouth@rollanet.org> To: <ILEFFING-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 8:29 PM Subject: [ILEFFING-L] Samuel Southern and Family > Reportedly the 1870 Effingham County, IL, Watson Twp, census shows a Samuel Southern/Southard and his wife Susan, and children Thomas, Alfred, and Mary. Could someone please varify this info and provide the State and year each was born. I believe this may be my long lost Greatgrandfather and grandmother. Thank you for your assistance. > > > ==== ILEFFING Mailing List ==== > If you want to subscribe to this list or unsubscribe from it, send e-mail to ILEFFING-L-request@rootsweb.com or (for the > digest list) ILEFFING-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the word subscribe or > unsubscribe in the message body. > >

Reportedly the 1870 Effingham County, IL, Watson Twp, census shows a Samuel Southern/Southard and his wife Susan, and children Thomas, Alfred, and Mary. Could someone please varify this info and provide the State and year each was born. I believe this may be my long lost Greatgrandfather and grandmother. Thank you for your assistance.

Linda, Thank you, or puting the German websites in your newsletter. This is just what I have been looking for. Trying to get across the ocean the home land of my paternal side of the family. Vi -- Vi Poland email address vipoland@cox.net

Forwarded (with permission of the author..........) to my Effingham County people who do research in Germany............ Linda List Administrator ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Watson" <dwats@cox.net> To: <NIEDERSACHSEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 2:44 PM Subject: [<nieder>] A few pointers for you - from :-) Don > > A few pointers for you....... applicable to ALL German research........ > > http://members.cox.net/hessen/table.htm > (surnames, first names research) .. check all links thoroughly! > > 16 modern German states plus Poland, Prussia, France, and so much more! > http://members.cox.net/hessen/16states.htm > > Ships are at > http://members.cox.net/hessen/ships.htm > > Abbreviations, symbols, strange characters (ß) are at > http://members.cox.net/hessen/links.htm > > Living persons, church and civil addresses > http://members.cox.net/hessen/telephones.htm > http://infospace.com (World Directories for other countries) > > and http://familysearch.org for ancestors living in the same areas "way back > when." > > You should also check out http://members.cox.net/hessen/foko.htm to see if > anyone in Germany is working on your surname in the same location of your > search. > > Old maps are at > http://members.cox.net/hessen/hesse.htm > > and both old and new are at > http://members.cox.net/hessen/towns.htm > (where you really need to scroll down the entire page) > > To complete Research 101 for German genealogy go to > http://members.cox.net/hessen/hsstory.htm where it ALL is, > > and stay there for several days.......... <grin> > > Finally, BE SURE to read and/or search the archives for the Niedersachsen > mailing list! > > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/?list=NIEDERSACHSEN > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/NIEDERSACHSEN/ > > (Don't forget to read the TAGLINES for this list, as well!) > > :-) > Don > > > ==== NIEDERSACHSEN Mailing List ==== > Is there a website for Niedersachsen and all the German states, Prussia, Poland, etc...? > http://members.cox.net/hessen/16states.htm >

Buried veterans' records now available on Web By Suzanne Gamboa The Associated Press WASHINGTON - Sally Naporlee turned to the Department of Veterans Affairs to find out more about her grandfather, who served during World War I. After a few weeks wait for a response, Naporlee learned from the VA that Carmelo Castorina is buried at Long Island National Cemetery in Farmingdale, N.Y. Unexpectedly, she also learned from VA that her grandmother is buried with him, a privilege extended to veterans' spouses. VA has made it easier and faster for the public to get answers about family history, old war buddies or famous war heroes. The agency put on the Web 3.2 million records for veterans buried at 120 national cemeteries since the Civil War. The VA's Nationwide Gravesite Locator, at http://www.cem.va.gov, also has records for some state veterans cemeteries and burials in Arlington National Cemetery since 1999. Joe Nosari, VA's deputy chief information officer for Memorial Affairs, said the records used to be on paper and microfilm. Private companies have put some of the information online and charged for it, but the VA information is free, he said. Naporlee, of Spokane, Wash., also learned her grandfather served with the Army's 161 DB unit, enlisting June 24, 1918. He was honorably discharged December 17, 1918. The VA's gravesite navigator includes names, dates of birth and death, military service dates, service branch and rank if known, cemetery information and grave location in the cemetery. The VA will withhold some information, such as next of kin, for privacy purposes. The site will be updated daily. Annually, about 80,000 veterans are buried at national cemeteries. The VA also hopes to add records for veterans whose families requested grave markers from the VA. Those markers may go to private cemeteries or cemeteries overseas. Linda

Hi, I think is it worth the risk to send this to all of my mailing lists... It says, you can live in any state and still participate... Dixie Lea in K.C... ----- Original Message ----- From: LRiffey007@aol.com To: TNWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 4:07 PM Subject: [TNWASHIN-L] WVA HB 4330 Last Saturday, March 13, in the WV Legislature,House Bill 4330 passed. It is now awaiting signature from Governor Wise to make it law. If you are a family genealogist/historian whose research involves West Virginia, then this bill affects your work whether you live in West Virginia or another state. If Governor Wise signs HB 4330, all birth records will be closed to public access for 100 years and all death records closed for 50 years. We are all concerned about privacy issues but HB 4330 in its current format is too restrictive. Please email Governor Wise and address your concerns. Don't delay. The governor's email address is Governor@WVGOV.org If you would like to examine HB 4330 then cut and paste the URL below. Remember to sign your email with your full name and address. http://www.legis.state.wv.us/legishp.html

Looking for a possible obit for him. He died March 18, 1871 in Effingham Co, Jackson Twp., likely in the Freemanton area. At time of death, the following likely were in the household: Mary-housekeeper, daughters Ann, Martha, Jane; a D. Parkhirst. James was listed as a farmer in the 1870 census for Jackson Twp.