Jessie, Hello! Your John K. Nay was he married to Mrs. Sarah J. Law on 4 July 1889 in Coles Co., IL?? If so, I have a few questions for you, please let me know either through this board or e-mail me directly. If this is your John K., I have a group picture with them in it!!! Angel [email protected] wrote: > Hi , cousin....You are a fairly close kin. My grandfather was John K Nay, > Grandson of Elza Nay . My ggrandfather was Zachariah ,the oldest son of Elza > and Elendor Pinnell Nay. Benjamin Franklin was the seventh child of Elza and > Elendor. > You are right about the Pinnells and the Nays intermarrying. I have a letter > written by Arthur Nay to John K Nay about the time that Benjamin's wife > Susan died. > > If you would like any more info on these ancestors I would be delighted to > share what I have. > > I presume you have the Nay Family Genealogy compiled by Ernest Omar Nay MD. > > As you know the original Nay came with his family from Siegen Germany in 1734 > and they were part of the Germanna Colony ...actually by the time they > arrived the colony had moved into Fauquier County. But the Nays are written > up in the Germanna Colony material. I went to Siegen , Germany where the Nays > lived for generations. I think we can trace the Nay family back to around > 1300 or so. > I have also located a Nay family burial ground at Nay Pines in Fauquier Co. > > Jessie Nay Heinzman -- Jeff and Angel Eubank [email protected]

Ed, have you run across any Nay's in your research. I have four Pinnell's in my database and all of them are married to Nays, including my gg grandmother Elendor R. Pinnell (1806-1876), who married Benjamin Franklin Nay. The other Pinnells are Mary Ann (1810-1891), Jasper Newton (1839-1923), and Taltitha Morton (1838-1908). I have no idea how these Pinnells are related but I suspect they are. I know nothing about the Pinnells. My Nay family was in Edgar Co.(Grandview) for a while and then moved just south of the co. line in Clark Co. They were very active in Pleasant Hill church in Kansas Twp, Edgar Co., and many of them are burried there. --- Ed Jackson <[email protected]> wrote: > Posted on: Edgar Co., IL Queries > Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Il/Edgar/331 > > Surname: Pinnell, Poulter > ------------------------- > > Searching for the names and birthdates of the children of William Isaac > Shelby Pinnell and his wife, Martha J. Poulter. All I have to date is their > initials/first name but no dates. Any help appreciated. I will share white > I have on the Poulter line. Martha J. Poulter is my 3d great aunt. > > H. F. > J. E. > W.O. > Johnnie > Leroy > Emma > ===== Paul Escarraz 1312 Arlington Chase Sherman IL 62684 [email protected] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/

Hi , cousin....You are a fairly close kin. My grandfather was John K Nay, Grandson of Elza Nay . My ggrandfather was Zachariah ,the oldest son of Elza and Elendor Pinnell Nay. Benjamin Franklin was the seventh child of Elza and Elendor. You are right about the Pinnells and the Nays intermarrying. I have a letter written by Arthur Nay to John K Nay about the time that Benjamin's wife Susan died. If you would like any more info on these ancestors I would be delighted to share what I have. I presume you have the Nay Family Genealogy compiled by Ernest Omar Nay MD. As you know the original Nay came with his family from Siegen Germany in 1734 and they were part of the Germanna Colony ...actually by the time they arrived the colony had moved into Fauquier County. But the Nays are written up in the Germanna Colony material. I went to Siegen , Germany where the Nays lived for generations. I think we can trace the Nay family back to around 1300 or so. I have also located a Nay family burial ground at Nay Pines in Fauquier Co. Jessie Nay Heinzman

Posted on: Edgar Co., IL Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Il/Edgar/346 Surname: PINNELL, POULTER, ROSS, ATKINS ------------------------- Hi Ed, Per DAR records, HF is Harrison F Pinnell, b. 1861 I have JE as Jacob E, b. 1854 (sorry, no source recorded) I don't have WO as a child of this couple. Nor do I have dates of birth for Johnnie, Leroy and Emma. Hope that helps a little. If you would like to exchange Pinnell/Poulter info, contact me via email. In the meantime I'll see if I can dig up a little more info on this family. WIS Pinnell is my 2nd cousin three times removed! (His granduncle, Edward Pinnell, is my ggggrandfather.) Ethel

Posted on: Edgar Co., IL Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Il/Edgar/344 Surname: Elam Green Darnall ------------------------- I am looking for my gggrandfather, Elam Darnall. He was born in 1827 supposedly in Coles Co. But everyone is telling me that Coles didn't exist in 1827. That it was probably Edgar Co. He married Lucinda Dodson (I think in the SW corner of MO. maybe Newton or McDonald Co.) TIA for any help you can give.

My husbands ancestor Lydia Clem married Adam Rusmisel ca 1877. they had two children Cora bo 1878 and John born 1881. Do you have anything or pictures on this line? Was he married before Lydia?

Posted on: Edgar Co., IL Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Il/Edgar/343 Surname: BENNETT, SIMS ------------------------- I am interested in the following Edgar Co. marriages and would appreciate information about these SIMS and BENNETT families. Euphrates Bennett m. Lucy J. Sims - Aug. 30, 1896 Charles A. Bennett m. Margaret Ann Sims - Mar. 18, 1891 Crayton Sims m. Isabelle Ingraham - Sep. 5, 1875 Jerry

How do I find a death notice or probate entry for a resident of Edgar or Coles Co? I tried the marriage index as suggested but while I found the marriage I need also the death dates and record. Thank you for any assistance. Jessie ,Calif

Dear Regina, try this: <A HREF="http://www2.sos.state.il.us/cgi-bin/marriage">Marriage Search</A> This should get you to the page you want. Carol of Danville, IN

Does anyone out there know of a site where you can request copies of death certificates by e-mail for the state of IL? I was on such a site just the other day, and failed to mark it. Now I can't find it. Any help? Thanks, Regina

Posted on: Edgar Co., IL Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Il/Edgar/342 Surname: Dodd ------------------------- I am looking for information on James Henry Dodd or anyone with the name of Dodd from Edgar Co. He married Sarah Stiles in Paris, Edgar CO. 30 Dec 1869. Any help is appreciated.

Posted on: Edgar Co., IL Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Il/Edgar/340 Surname: Kirby ------------------------- Thanks Deane and Craig for your directions to Swango Cemetery. I'll check for road names and will report on the condition of the cemetery. Sure am looking forward to the visit there. I am also going to visit Forsythe Cemetery, Ferron Cemetery, Bell, Bluegrass, Whalen, Shields, etc. I have a full schedule ahead of me but am excited about "cemetery hopping". Phyllis Forcum

Posted on: Edgar Co., IL Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Il/Edgar/339 Surname: Whalen ------------------------- I have found the article about Whalen Cemetery printed in the Paris Beacon News, May 29, 2000. I am going to condense the article because of it's length. CEMETERY CLEAN UP UNCOVERS PIECES OF HISTORY The sound of chain saws and weed eaters interrupted the tranquil setting of Whalen Cemetery Saturday afternoon as volunteers uncovered pieces of Edgar County history. The oldest tombstone, dated 1825 and bearing the name of Michael Whalen, was unearthed among the treasures uncovered. In the ensuing years, a total of eight family members were interred in the small cemetery, which has been neglected and abandoned in recent years. The last buriel was in 1875. The cemetery is remote, hidden from view of the nearby roadway. Access is gained by traveling through a gate to a grassy field and to the edge of the adjoining woods. Among the overgrowth, workers found six formerly erect headstones now encased in a concrete slab for preservation. The stones and history of Whalen Cemetery indicate places of final rest for seven members of the Whalen family, including the mother, father and four children, and two others. The Edgar County Genealogy Library would appreciate any factual information known about the people buried in Whalen Cemetery or their descendants. The attention toward Whalen Cemetery has already resulted in correspondence which indicates the cemetery has not been forgotten. A descendent, Carolyn Gillespy Browning of Mitchellville, MD, formerly of Paris, visited the cemetery in early May with her husband. She is the great-granddaughter of Patrick and Almira Whalen. Impetus for the clean up was Comptroller Dan Hynes' visit to Edgar County as part of his "Statewide Cemetery Clean Up" effort during the month of May. Members of the Paris FFA Club and the Democratic Boosters joined Comptroller Hynes in the Whalen Cemetery reclamation. When finished, the group planted some perennials in memory of these early settlers. By Jenny Barkley, Beacon News City Editor

I'm searching for the parents of a William Denton, born abt 1807 in Washington Co., Tennessee. He married Mary Pearman or Pearmore in Vermillion Co., Indiana in 1937 and had moved to Edgar Co., Illinois by 1849. His children are: Henry A, Jonas, John, Samuel, Thomas, Sarah Jane, and Elizabeth. Sarah Jane Denton (b. abt 1847) married David Scott Moore in Edgar Co., Illinois in 1867 and had twins, Grace and Harry (b. 1883), Carrie A. (b. abt 1877) and Minnie (abt 1875). Does anyone recognize this family? Teresa Barton [email protected]

I would be willing to extract a map and send it directly to Phyllis if she can accept a pdf file, or WordPerfect file. It will not be until Friday that I will be able to do this. Alan T. Alan Russell 8 Waters Edge Drive Paris, IL 61944 217-466-5305 [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> www.cartar.com <http://www.cartar.com> -----Original Message----- From: Deane O Craig [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 8:21 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [ILEDGAR] [ILEDGAR-L] Re: Swango Cemetary Phyllis: I apoligize for taking so long to respond. Unfortunately, I am unable to convey in words the actual turn you would have to make off Illinois Rte. 1. I do know it is approximately 5 miles sourth of Paris on Route 1. I do know you will then be turning RIGHT. But, right onto what country road, I do not know the name off. Many of these country roads are not sign posted. I have a 1979 Edgar Co. Atlas & Plat Book issued by the Edgar Co. Farm Bureau. I can see the roads on the atlas but no names are given. If I try and give you directions from the atlas which would be like looking at the land from the sky, and, then you trying to find your way by car on the ground, it mostly likely will look different and you could easily get lost. This coupled with my inability to give you the name of the country road you need to turn right off of Route 1, just, will not help you much. I suggest you (1)-contact the Edgar Co., Illinois Genealogical Society in Paris, Illinois via <[email protected]>. Ms. A.Joyce Brown is very knowledgeable of the area. Or (2)-go to the local farm bureau in Paris and look at or purchase one of their latest editions of Edgar Co. Atlas & Plat Book. A final suggestion would be (3)-you could drive approximately 5 miles south of Paris on Route 1 and then stop at the first available house and should someone be at home just ask them where Swango Cemetery is located. One or all of these suggestions certainly will get you there. By the way, unless Mr. Robert Doughtery has passed away, his farm surrounds Swango Cemetery. Originally way back, the property was the old Michael O'Hair farm. Then, it later became the Swango family property, hence, the name. And, then the Doughterys. If Mr. Doughtery is gone, one of his children may own it. My Craigs came from Kentucky with the O'Hairs and a couple of my Craigs have married O'Hairs and Swangos. Should you arrive at the Doughtery's, or whoevers farm, it is best to stop and ask for permission to cross their land, because, you will be getting out of your vehicle at this point and you will have to physically walk across a small field, then up a small wooded hill to its top, and there, you will find Swango Cemetery. The cemetery is surrounded by a fence. In the old days, it was a beautiful ornate wrought iron fence. Today, it is mostly just a wire fence. You may have to literally climb over the fence to get inside to walk among the tombstones. Depending on the time of the year, the weeds maybe quite high. Also, the chiggers--which I often do get. The largest and tallest tombstone there is my great, great grandfather and grandmother's---Issac Nickles Craig and Elizabeth Schrader. That is if tombstone hasn't fallen over by now. The last time I was there it was leaning some. Most of those buried in Swango are my kin, direct or otherwise. My earliest direct descendant known to be buried there is my gggg-grandfather, Robert Craig, born 1781 in Virginia. He was a soldier in the War of 1812. As you can see, this is an important burial place to my family. To me, it is sacred ground. Good luck in your search for Swango, Sincerely, Deane Oliver Craig, Sr. P.S.--Should you go and are successful, please, report back to me the conditon of the cemetery. I have always been concerned about its condition and care. Thanking you in advance. On Mon, 21 Aug 2000 13:57:43 -0500 "Phyllis Forcum" <[email protected]> writes: > Hello, Mr. Craig: > I've been in contact with you before about Swango Cemetary. I > was hoping you could give me directions to Swango Cemetary. I know > I go 5 miles south on Rt 1 but what road do I turn to the right on? > I am not knowledgeable of the people who live on Rt 1. I know you > said turn at Weber farm, but I do not know where that is. I'll be > visiting the cemetary very soon and it would help me tremendously if > I knew where to turn. > > Thank you, Mr. Craig! > Phyllis Kirby Forcum

Hi, Phyllis, You take Rt 1 S of Paris to 500th Road, then go W and angle SW on 1400th Street to Preston Street (today, was old Preston Road.) Preston Street on 911 map is also probably about 1350, or 1360 Street. Swango Cemetery lays SW of junction where Preston Street turns S at 450th Road, before stream, I think. From this junction you can probably go with Deane Craig's directions. Best wishes from AJBrown "Phyllis M. Forcum" wrote: > Posted on: Edgar Co., IL Queries > Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Il/Edgar/332 > > Surname: Kirby > ------------------------- > > Does anyone have directions to get to Swango Cemetary? I know it is south > of Paris on Route 1, about 5 miles. I need "turn left at" or "right at > the curve" type of instructions. I tend to get lost. I would appreciate > any help. Thank you. > > Phyllis Kirby Forcum

Posted on: Edgar Co., IL Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Il/Edgar/338 Surname: DOWNS ------------------------- Thank you, Deane, for all the information!

Posted on: Edgar Co., IL Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Il/Edgar/337 Surname: DOWNS ------------------------- Thank you for the information, Beverly! I"ll do my best to follow up on it.

Posted on: Edgar Co., IL Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Il/Edgar/336 Surname: Downs ------------------------- I'm sorry, here are a few additonal Downs buried in Holley-Elledge Cemetery, Edgar Co.,IL: 1. Johnie s/o R. & A. 2. Wm. s/o J.J. & Thomas 3. Caroline (1878-1878)

Posted on: Edgar Co., IL Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Il/Edgar/335 Surname: Downs ------------------------- Seeing your messge on the Edgar Co. website, may I suggest you check Clark Co.. Charity Downs lived for some years in Marshall and, I think, died in Marshall. I don't know if any of her children are living here now but it may be worth checking. She maintained a home for the elderly for some years at the intersection of Rte 40 and Rte 1 in Marshall