If anyone is interested in the obit info, please let me know. BROBERG, Robert L; 83; Northport MI; Downers Grove R; 2000-2-16; redbird HOEKSTRA, Jane K; 81; Downers Grove IL; Downers Grove R; 2000-2-16; redbird LOSSIE, Gail Lynn; 46; Littleton CO; Downers Grove R; 2000-2-16; redbird SCIABARAS, Patricia A (NIEMEC); 61; Geneva IL; Downers Grove R; 2000-2-16; redbird WEHRMEISTER, Doria M; 81; O'Fallon MO; Downers Grove R; 2000-2-16; redbird WILSON, Alfred Martin; 86; Naperville IL; DG Suburban Life; 2000-2-9; redbird BAUMGARTNER, Ronald J; 69; Naperville IL; DG Suburban Life; 2000-2-9; redbird KNUTSON, Louise A; 91; Rochelle IL; DG Suburban Life; 2000-2-9; redbird DULSKI, Eleanor; 83; Downers Grove IL; DG Suburban Life; 2000-2-9; redbird ATCHISON, James L; 76; Downers Grove IL; DG Suburban Life; 2000-2-9; redbird WEATHERHEAD, Robert J; 78; Minneapolis MN; DG Suburban Life; 2000-2-9; redbird STRATMAN, Raymond J; 88; Lemont IL; DG Suburban Life; 2000-2-9; redbird LARSON, Raymond U; 90; Lombard IL; DG Suburban Life; 2000-2-9; redbird

> Hello List, > > I have a HORATIO (HORACE) HILL born in England 1873, with wife living in Wayne in 1910. Also I have WILLIAM BURNS with wife MAUDE HILL born in England 1871, there at the same time. HORACE and MAUDE were brother and sister. > Does anyone have any information about or connection with either family? Are there any Cemeteries in Wayne that could be checked for these names? > > George. >

Does anyone have any information on The Oaks Nursing Home in Hinsdale? I have some letterhead showing their address in 1960 as: The Oaks Nursing Home RT. 83 & 91st Street Hinsdale, IL I tried information, and they have no listing. Does anyone know what became of it, and where I might find some patient records? Sincerely, Natalie Smith

Can anyone tell me where in DuPage County they keep the complete school records? Especially attendance records? I sent a request to Bensenville Elementary School District No. 2 for my school records. >From them I received copies of the following for grades K and 1 (1965-1967) Permanent Elementary School Record Scholastic Record The Scholastic Record indicates that I was absent for 36 half days in Kindergarten and 14 half days for First Grade. I feel there is an error here - especially in reference to the amount of time absent in Kindergarten - over a month of days (I only attended Kindergarten for half days). I requested the daily attendance reports but the reply from Mr. James Gane of Bensenville Elementary School District No 2 states that the district does not have that information. Anyone know who else might have the complete records? Any information will be much appreciated. Thanks Barry Jernigan

Would someone please look up an obituary for OSCAR WITT, died Aug 1984, Lombard, Du Page, IL. Willing to pay for postage and copying. Thank you. Sincerely, Justin L. Dingman, Tacoma, WA ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

I just realized I was looking for the wrong man at the wrong time. I'll check again next week. Sorry Karen

My provider converted.. old spr3622@montana.com no good... *New e-mail spr3622@blackfoot.net Sharon Kay Arthur Knapp 3 Horning Drive Superior, MT 59872 spr3622@blackfoot.net http://www.uftree.com/UFT/WebPages/spr3622/ARTHUR/index.htm

--part1_ae.18bb8de.25e0e5a7_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MORE Pension and Bounty Land Information.... This wonderful information was sent to me by a specialist in the Revolutionary War period. Julia also is a DAR specialist. She said that I could share this information with my lists and I am so grateful. This really adds some detailed information I hope will help lots of folks with their hunting. Bonnie In a message dated 2/19/00 4:21:51 AM Pacific Standard Time, FamRSearch@aol.com writes: << Subj: Re: Military Pensions and Bounty Land Information Date: 2/19/00 4:21:51 AM Pacific Standard Time From: FamRSearch@aol.com To: ILFULTON-L@rootsweb.com For Rev War (and I believe also war of 1812). While Bounty Land and Pensions were separate acts, the microfilm rolls has been combined. For Rev War, the entire files have been put on microfilm. If it is not on the microfilm it doesn't exist as far as applications are concerned. The films are available at the archives, both at DC and branch as well as major libraries and also thru the FHC center. They are alphabetical by the name of the soldier. Only problem I have found is its strict order so Wiley is sperate from Wily and it depends on the way the original person filed. So you have to check all the various spellings. For each file there is the file cover listing soldier name, Widows name underneath if she also files, file number, and type of file i.e. pension BWT (bounty land). For some files that's it. If there are papers it is divided between selected (papers the archives staff felt were of value) and non-selected (everything else). Non selected usually include envelop covers, lists of actions, letters to the War Dept. asking about info some as late as the 1930's. These are interesting as they sometimes gives several generations of descendants. Selected records include the hand written applications, copies of affidavits supporting the claims, proof of marriage and death of soldier if widow applying etc. Now I have found a number of files with just the file cover. SIGH. But most have 10-15 pages of info at least on the soldier. My best find was one with over 150 pages including a personal note book of the soldier where he had listed the names of his parents, where and when they married, the name and dates of all his siblings as well as who and when they married. The same info for his wife. Then a listing of all his children and marriages that had occurred through the time he died. His wife didn't apply for a pension until the late 1840s and the government appears to have been suspicious. Apparently they were satisfied, as they paid her a pension until she died. But what a find. There is another set of files for the pension and that is a file of final payments. I have not had much luck there are you need to know what agency was paying the soldier. There is also a file for the bounty land turned in, but the problem there is that the bounties were often given to children and sold and its had to find them. As for state bounty lands, The best book on these in by Lloyd Blokstock (sp?) and is called something like Bounty Lands Granted by State Governments for Revolutionary War Service. It lists all the people who got state bounty land. In the index it lists where the state records were. Many states gave the bounty land in addition to monthly wages if the person would enlist for 3 years (or until the end of the war). Some states gave land for things other that military service. CT only gave land as compensation to those whose property was damages by the British raids or bombardments. Maine is of interest as 1) it didn't exist as a state during the Rev War, and 2) it gave land to anyone who served in any state's militia. Maybe why a lot of people moved to Maine. Anyway that's enough. Julia Coldren-Walker >> --part1_ae.18bb8de.25e0e5a7_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <ILFULTON-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from rly-zd01.mx.aol.com (rly-zd01.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.225]) by air-zd01.mail.aol.com (v67_b1.24) with ESMTP; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 07:21:51 -0500 Received: from bl-11.rootsweb.com (bl-11.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.27]) by rly-zd01.mx.aol.com (v67_b1.24) with ESMTP; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 07:21:47 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-11.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA05940; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 04:20:27 -0800 (PST) Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 04:20:27 -0800 (PST) From: FamRSearch@aol.com Message-ID: <2d.17aa275.25dfe467@aol.com> Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 07:19:51 EST Subject: Re: Military Pensions and Bounty Land Information Old-To: ILFULTON-L@rootsweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 44 Resent-Message-ID: <O1k0BC.A.lcB.Kqor4@bl-11.rootsweb.com> To: ILFULTON-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: ILFULTON-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <ILFULTON-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/1290 X-Loop: ILFULTON-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: ILFULTON-L-request@rootsweb.com Jeanne For Rev War (and I believe also war of 1812). While Bounty Land and Rensions were seperate acts, the microfilm rolls has been combined. For Rev War, the entire files have been put on microfilm. If it is not on the microfilm it doesnt exist as far as applications are concerned. The films are available at the archives, both at DC and branch as well as major libraries and also thru the FHC center. They are alphabetical by the name of the soldier. Only problem I have found is its strict order so Wiley is sperate from Wily and it depends on the way the original person filed. So you have to check all the various spellings. For each file there is the file cover listing soldier name, Widows name underneath if she also files, file number, and type of file i.e. pension BWT (bounty land). For some files that's it. If there are papers it is divided between selected (papers the archives staff felt were of value) and non-selected (everything else). Non selected usually include envelop covers, lists of actions, letters to the War Dept asking about info some as late as the 1930's. These are intersting as they sometimes gives several generations of descendants. Selected records include the hand written applications, copies of affidavits supporting the claims, proof of marriage and death of soldier if widow applying etc. Now I have found a number of files with just the file cover. SIGH. But most have 10-15 pages of info at least on the soldier. My best find was one with over 150 pages including a personal note book of the soldier where he had listed the names of his parents, where and when they married, the name and dates of all his siblings as well as who and when they married. The same info for his wife. Then a listing of all his children and marriages that had occurred through the time he died. His wife didnt apply for a pension until the late 1840's and the government appears to have been suspicous. Apparently they were satisfied, as they paid her a pension until she died. But what a find. There is another set of files for the pension and that is a file of final payments. I have not had much luck there are you need to know what agency was paying the soldier. There is also a file for the bounty land turned in, but the problem there is that the bounties were often fiven to children and sold and its had to find them. As for state bounty lands, The best book on these in by Lloyd Blokstock (sp?) and is called something like Bounty Lands Granted by State Governments for Revolutionary War Service. It lists all the people who got state bounty laand. In the index it lists where the state records were. Many states gave the bounty land in addition to monthly wages if the person would enlist fo 3 years (or until the end of the war). Some states gave land for things other that military service. CT only gave land as compensation to those whose property was damages by the British raids or bombardments. Maine is of interest as 1) it didnt exist as a state during the Rev War, and 2) it gave land to anyone who served in any state's militia. Maybe why a lot of people moved to maine. Anyway thats enough. Julia Coldren-Walker --part1_ae.18bb8de.25e0e5a7_boundary--

Anyone interested in the obit info, I'll be happy to type it out for you. BROBERG, Robert L; 83; Northport MI; Downers Grove R; 2000-2-16; redbird HOEKSTRA, Jane K; 81; Downers Grove IL; Downers Grove R; 2000-2-16; redbird LOSSIE, Gail Lynn; 46; Littleton CO; Downers Grove R; 2000-2-16; redbird SCIABARAS, Patricia A (NIEMEC); 61; Geneva IL; Downers Grove R; 2000-2-16; redbird WEHRMEISTER, Doria M; 81; O'Fallon MO; Downers Grove R; 2000-2-16; redbird WILSON, Alfred Martin; 86; Naperville IL; DG Suburban Life; 2000-2-9; redbird BAUMGARTNER, Ronald J; 69; Naperville IL; DG Suburban Life; 2000-2-9; redbird KNUTSON, Louise A; 91; Rochelle IL; DG Suburban Life; 2000-2-9; redbird DULSKI, Eleanor; 83; Downers Grove IL; DG Suburban Life; 2000-2-9; redbird ATCHISON, James L; 76; Downers Grove IL; DG Suburban Life; 2000-2-9; redbird WEATHERHEAD, Robert J; 78; Minneapolis MN; DG Suburban Life; 2000-2-9; redbird STRATMAN, Raymond J; 88; Lemont IL; DG Suburban Life; 2000-2-9; redbird LARSON, Raymond U; 90; Lombard IL; DG Suburban Life; 2000-2-9; redbird

--part1_6b.1c0e676.25df453b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Everyone, A very knowledgeable Jeanne Bloom shared this information with me and said I was free to share it with others. I thought that in order to collect a pension you had to be destitute, that is not true according to Jeanne and there is lots of information available. I am so pleased to pass this along. It was wonderful news for me and I hope it helps others too. Bonnie Briggs Brewer << Subj: Re: Military Pensions Date: 2/18/00 12:40:17 PM Pacific Standard Time From: jebloom@mcs.net (Jeanne Larzalere Bloom) Reply-to: <A HREF="mailto:jebloom@mcs.net">jebloom@mcs.net</A> To: BPBREWER83@aol.com Hi Bonnie- It is different. Bounty lands were used to encourage enlistment or to reward previous service. The lands were used as a substitute for wages. One did not need to be destitute nor have any type of injury. So the number applying for bounty lands far exceeds those that applied for pensions. The federal government used military land for military service until 1855. According to The Source, the National Archives has an estimated 450,000 bounty-land claims on file. State governments also gave bounty lands and have files. I usually "expect" to find any veteran I am researching filing for bounty land. The laws governing pensions changed over time and changed for sometimes changed for each military conflict. An act of Congress in 1832 made all veterans eligible for a pension. As I recall this was in response to lobbying by the veterans of the War of 1812, but it covered veterans of the Revolutionary War.. Again, any veteran or his widow that lived until 1832 I "expect" to find a pension application. My strategy for any veteran that I identify is to request a copy of the pension and bounty-land warrant file. The request does not cost anything. If a file is not found, I make a note in my research records and know that at least I have checked that possible avenue. So even though your ancestors were not flat broke you should make the proper inquiries. Jeanne Larzalere Bloom Chicago, IL jebloom@mcs.net >> --part1_6b.1c0e676.25df453b_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <jebloom@mcs.net> Received: from rly-yc03.mx.aol.com (rly-yc03.mail.aol.com [172.18.149.35]) by air-yc03.mail.aol.com (v67_b1.24) with ESMTP; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 15:40:17 -0500 Received: from Kitten.mcs.net (kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by rly-yc03.mx.aol.com (v67_b1.24) with ESMTP; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 15:40:07 -0500 Received: from mcs.net (jebloom.pr.mcs.net [204.137.244.134]) by Kitten.mcs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA35838 for <BPBREWER83@aol.com>; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 14:40:05 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jebloom@mcs.net) Message-ID: <38ADAE2B.3734E11B@mcs.net> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 14:40:11 -0600 From: Jeanne Larzalere Bloom <jebloom@mcs.net> Reply-To: jebloom@mcs.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en]C-DIAL (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BPBREWER83@aol.com Subject: Re: Military Pensions References: <dd.179dd6f.25def16a@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Bonnie- It is different. Bounty lands were used to encourage enlistment or to reward previous service. The lands were used as a substitute for wages. One did not need to be destitute nor have any type of injury. So the number applying for bounty lands far exceeds those that applied for pensions. The federal government used military land for military service until 1855. According to The Source, the National Archives has an estimated 450,000 bounty-land claims on file. State governments also gave bounty lands and have files. I usually "expect" to find any veteran I am researching filing for bounty land. The laws governing pensions changed over time and changed for sometimes changed for each military conflict. An act of Congress in 1832 made all veterans eligible for a pension. As I recall this was in response to lobbying by the veterans of the War of 1812, but it covered veterans of the Revolutionary War.. Again, any veteran or his widow that lived until 1832 I "expect" to find a pension application. My strategy for any veteran that I identify is to request a copy of the pension and bounty-land warrant file. The request does not cost anything. If a file is not found, I make a note in my research records and know that at least I have checked that possible avenue. So even though your ancestors were not flat broke you should make the proper inquiries. Jeanne Larzalere Bloom Chicago, IL jebloom@mcs.net --part1_6b.1c0e676.25df453b_boundary--

Would someone please look up an obituary for OSCAR WITT, died Aug 1984, Lombard, Du Page, IL. Willing to pay for postage and copying. Thank you. Sincerely, Justin L. Dingman, Tacoma, WA ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

I received it on Friday, Shirley. Thanks so much for sending it! Sorry I haven't gotten back to you, but American Local History Network is been in crisis for the last several weeks, and there have been about 200 list messages a day. Yikes! I'll let everyone know if the DuPage History site has to be relocated...I'm still reading messages! Pat Shirley Dilsworth wrote: > > Pat, > > Did you get the postcard copy of Melrose Park yet? Need to go look at that > e-bay site, sounds interesting. > > Shirley

Pat, Did you get the postcard copy of Melrose Park yet? Need to go look at that e-bay site, sounds interesting. Shirley

I normally don't do this, but I just ran across a bunch of 1918 real photo postcards of West Chicago on e-bay. They're not listed as "town views"-they're under "Real Photo". I don't have any ties to West Chicago, but wanted to pass the info along. It's very unusual to find the small town cards available (I once bid up to $38.00 for a Naperville card and *lost*!...saved from my own stupidity, thank goodness). If somebody in this group buys them, I'd love for you to scan them and donate them to the DuPage County ALHN! :-) Pat Sabin

Could some one do a look up of the 1860 Census, Downers Grove Twp. DuPage Co. for a DAVY, JOHN..p. 112. to see if there is a listing of family. Surnames: Davy-Davey-Dodge Sharon of MT

Would someone please look up an obituary for OSCAR WITT, died Aug 1984, Lombard, Du Page, IL. Willing to pay for postage and copying. Thank you. Sincerely, Justin L. Dingman, Tacoma, WA ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Need someone to look up an obituary for ELMER PEDE, died 13 June 1977, Clarendon Hills, Du Page, IL. Willing to pay for postage and copying. Thank you. Sincerely, Justin L. Dingman, Tacoma, WA ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Need someone to lookup an obituary for the following person: Elmer PEDE, birth 14 Nov 1919, died 13 Jun 1977, Clarendon Hills, Du Page, IL Thank you for your assistance on this matter. Willing to pay for postage and copying. Sincerely, Justin L. Dingman, Tacoma, WA ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Dear Mid-Western Rooters, Does anyone have access to yearbooks for Wheaton High School for the years1974 - 1980. If so, would you please e-mail me privately. I need a lookup for three individuals who are probably in the 1974, 1977 and 1980 yearbooks. Also, if someone has a yearbook for Wheaton College for year 1952, I need a lookup. Thanks for your help. Janis Mundy Reno, NV

Hi, Everyone, Forgive me if I'm repeating myself. I can't remember to whom I've made this announcement (getting old). I'm compiling a directory of non-commercial vintage postcard sites, in the form of a US tour. It's growing everyday and really has some super sites listed. A vintage postcard addict myself, I've just about doubled my Chicago collection, and most of the new acquisitions are online at: http://patsabin.com/illinois/vintage.htm Hope you'll drop by and take the tour, and please let me know if you know of a good site that I've missed! Pat Sabin "America As It Was" http://patsabin.com/VintagePostcards/index.htm