Bonnie, Stoos/Stoss and Kreager(looks like a misspelling to me) appear in the "Patrons' Directory" at the end of the History of DuPage County, Illinois (C. W. Richmond. 1877). "In the following Directory are given the country in which the several patrons were born; also their Post Office address, occupation, politics, religion, and the year in which they came to DuPage county:" (page 220) "Stoss, Andrew. France. Naperville, farmer, catholic, 1853." (page 241) "Kreager, Valentine. Germany. Naperville, saloon, democrat, catholic, 1841." (page 232) Is Richmond's book worth buying? I think it depends on how much interest you have in the early history of the county. The book emphasizes, I think, political rather than social history--a natural focus at the time it was written. On the other hand, Harmon's history of Glen Ellyn was written in the 1920s when the community was well-established and when the earliest settlers had died. For this reason, I guess, her book reflects more interest in what ordinary life was like then (not just who held what offices) and stories from the early settlers whose descendants remained in the area. I prefer her book because it allows me to better imagine what life was like for these people, even though the book doesn't contain much specific info. about my ancestor. Has anyone else on the list seen some of the other county histories? Christine -----Original Message----- From: Dagen, Bonnie <Bonnie_Dagen@gbophb.org> To: ILDUPAGE-L@rootsweb.com <ILDUPAGE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, October 06, 2000 2:07 PM Subject: RE: [ILDUPAGE] History Look-up Offer >Yes, thanks for doing this for me. Andrew Stoos was my >great-great-grandfather (they have it spelled wrong in the book). (Andrew A. >Stoos was my great-uncle). I found out yesterday that Andrew Stoos was >married Jennie (Jeanette?) Kreiger and I've just begun to dig around for >links to the name Kreiger, making the assumption that they would be in Du >Page County. > >Valentine Kreager may very well be related (misspelled?). Does the book >offer any other info about people or just names? Is it worth buying? > >THANK YOU SO MUCH >Bonnie > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Christine Grogan [SMTP:grogan@go-concepts.com] > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 12:07 PM > To: ILDUPAGE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ILDUPAGE] History Look-up Offer > > I find entries for Andrew STOSS and Valentine KREAGER. Different >names, but > do these seem like possibilities? > Christine > -----Original Message----- > From: Dagen, Bonnie <Bonnie_Dagen@gbophb.org> > To: ILDUPAGE-L@rootsweb.com <ILDUPAGE-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Friday, October 06, 2000 12:32 PM > Subject: RE: [ILDUPAGE] History Look-up Offer > > > Christine- > How nice of you to offer to do lookups! I was hoping to get to >Naperville > over this weekend to do some checking around. Do you see these >names? > > Stoos > Bestler > Kreiger > > Thank you so much. Bonnie > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Christine Grogan [SMTP:grogan@go-concepts.com] > > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 11:04 AM > > To: ILDUPAGE-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [ILDUPAGE] History Look-up Offer > > > > I have bought copies of the books History of DuPage County, >Illinois > >(C. W. Richmond, 1877) and The Story of An Old Town--Glen Ellyn >(Ada > Douglas > >Harmon 1928). Both books have name indices, and I am willing to do >lookups > >in them. > > Christine Grogan > > grogan@go-concepts.com > > > > > > > >

I don't know but when Christian Griiner died in 1938-1939 in his funeral book is a JAMES AHERN and what looks like NANFORE AHERN. I have a lot of information and am still trying to piece it together. I have Carl Coleman b 11-2-1898 married Erna Griiner 3-17-1926 (divorced later) in 1929 ,while Carl was the organist at the Great Lakes Theater, Buffalo NY,a letter was sent to Carl from: C.M. Coleman Pickwick apt 6 833 S. Grand Ave. Los Angeles, Ca I think this was Carl's dad and he had a brother Theo. with wife Lois and a baby that were visiting him in CA In Christians funeral book there are a lot of other names that I don't know who they are thanks sarah NOELLEHART@aol.com wrote: > > Parts of Denmark became part of Germany following a war between the two. That > probably explains the discrepancy between the birth and death cert. I have > relatives who were Colemans but I believe them to have been Irish. Mary > Coleman married Dennis Ahern and they had 4 children; one of whom was named > George Coleman Colford. Any connection? Nina

I am looking for any relative my mother Arlene Erna Griiner may have had or who is still alive, she was born in Downers Grove Aug. 30, 1935 her father Arthur,died a month before she was born my grandmother never told her about Downers Grove, family or relatives, in the last few years her mother and both sisters have died and I was hoping to locate any one who may know about her family. If you could please provide any info on anything Could you please look up : Griiner (Gruner): Christian F. (Christ), Gus and Christiana(married a Richard Voght/Voight) Christian (Christ Griiner) married Caroline Schneider 10-04-1893(1918 lived 4921 Addison St.) On Christ death cert. it said he came from Denmark and his father was G------(looks like Gottlieb) (CHRIST AND CAROLINE ARE BURIED AT WALDHEIM CEMETAY ,FOREST PARK) they had 2 children Arthur F. Griiner (d 1935) married Mildred Bernice Lucchesi and had 3 daughters ( Lois, Helen Jean and Arlene Erna) his sister was Erna Griiner who played the organ and married Carl Coleman no children (then moved to Buffalo NY) Christ Griiner had property: 1.4616 Prospect in Downers Grove, 2. 1135-1137 W. Chicago Ave. 3. 1252-1254 W. Oakley Blvd. Chicago 4. Potomac Ave. 5. 1624 Humboldt ave(1935) One of Arthur and Erna grandmothers lived at 912 N. California 1.Anna F. Korsvik 3649 Oakdale Ave., Chicago (1924) 2.Mon July 3 (yr.?) Capt. Wm. Sells Wild animals Show. 3. Elmhurst 1909 4. picture postcard of a dance at Moen Park, Rhine Lander, WI #4. THANK YOU !!!!! sarah tomyco@pacbell.net

Yes, thanks for doing this for me. Andrew Stoos was my great-great-grandfather (they have it spelled wrong in the book). (Andrew A. Stoos was my great-uncle). I found out yesterday that Andrew Stoos was married Jennie (Jeanette?) Kreiger and I've just begun to dig around for links to the name Kreiger, making the assumption that they would be in Du Page County. Valentine Kreager may very well be related (misspelled?). Does the book offer any other info about people or just names? Is it worth buying? THANK YOU SO MUCH Bonnie -----Original Message----- From: Christine Grogan [SMTP:grogan@go-concepts.com] Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 12:07 PM To: ILDUPAGE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ILDUPAGE] History Look-up Offer I find entries for Andrew STOSS and Valentine KREAGER. Different names, but do these seem like possibilities? Christine -----Original Message----- From: Dagen, Bonnie <Bonnie_Dagen@gbophb.org> To: ILDUPAGE-L@rootsweb.com <ILDUPAGE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, October 06, 2000 12:32 PM Subject: RE: [ILDUPAGE] History Look-up Offer Christine- How nice of you to offer to do lookups! I was hoping to get to Naperville over this weekend to do some checking around. Do you see these names? Stoos Bestler Kreiger Thank you so much. Bonnie -----Original Message----- > From: Christine Grogan [SMTP:grogan@go-concepts.com] > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 11:04 AM > To: ILDUPAGE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ILDUPAGE] History Look-up Offer > > I have bought copies of the books History of DuPage County, Illinois >(C. W. Richmond, 1877) and The Story of An Old Town--Glen Ellyn (Ada Douglas >Harmon 1928). Both books have name indices, and I am willing to do lookups >in them. > Christine Grogan > grogan@go-concepts.com > > >

I find entries for Andrew STOSS and Valentine KREAGER. Different names, but do these seem like possibilities? Christine -----Original Message----- From: Dagen, Bonnie <Bonnie_Dagen@gbophb.org> To: ILDUPAGE-L@rootsweb.com <ILDUPAGE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, October 06, 2000 12:32 PM Subject: RE: [ILDUPAGE] History Look-up Offer >Christine- >How nice of you to offer to do lookups! I was hoping to get to Naperville >over this weekend to do some checking around. Do you see these names? > >Stoos >Bestler >Kreiger > >Thank you so much. Bonnie > > -----Original Message----- > From: Christine Grogan [SMTP:grogan@go-concepts.com] > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 11:04 AM > To: ILDUPAGE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ILDUPAGE] History Look-up Offer > > I have bought copies of the books History of DuPage County, Illinois >(C. W. Richmond, 1877) and The Story of An Old Town--Glen Ellyn (Ada Douglas >Harmon 1928). Both books have name indices, and I am willing to do lookups >in them. > Christine Grogan > grogan@go-concepts.com > > >

Bonnie, Sorry, I don't see Wurtz in either book. I do think both books tend to emphasize the earliest settlers, who were mainly from New England and New York, and even with the pioneers, certain family names are repeated. Ada Harmon interviewed descendants of some of the early settlers of Glen Ellyn. If the family happened to stay in the area into the 20th C, there is more information. Christine -----Original Message----- From: BBgenealogy@cs.com <BBgenealogy@cs.com> To: ILDUPAGE-L@rootsweb.com <ILDUPAGE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, October 06, 2000 12:48 PM Subject: Re: [ILDUPAGE] History Look-up Offer >Hello, >I would be grateful for anything you could find on Wurtz. >Thank you so much for the offer. >Bonnie > ><< grogan@go-concepts.com > >> > >

Patty, Sorry, I don't find the name Rethmeier. The book generally emphasizes political history though, and my ancestor Daniel Fish, an early settler of what is now Glen Ellyn, is not mentioned in it either. Christine -----Original Message----- From: Pattie Schultz <PSchultz@geac.com> To: ILDUPAGE-L@rootsweb.com <ILDUPAGE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, October 06, 2000 12:15 PM Subject: RE: [ILDUPAGE] History Look-up Offer >Christine, > > You are an angel! I have a relative that although they lived in Cook >County, the Obit I found was in Dupage..... Could you see if the surname of >Rethmeier is mentioned in the History of Dupage County? > >Thanks, > >Pattie > >-----Original Message----- >From: Christine Grogan [mailto:grogan@go-concepts.com] >Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 12:04 PM >To: ILDUPAGE-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [ILDUPAGE] History Look-up Offer > > >I have bought copies of the books History of DuPage County, Illinois (C. W. >Richmond, 1877) and The Story of An Old Town--Glen Ellyn (Ada Douglas Harmon >1928). Both books have name indices, and I am willing to do lookups in them. > >Christine Grogan >grogan@go-concepts.com > > >

Christine- How nice of you to offer to do lookups! I was hoping to get to Naperville over this weekend to do some checking around. Do you see these names? Stoos Bestler Kreiger Thank you so much. Bonnie -----Original Message----- From: Christine Grogan [SMTP:grogan@go-concepts.com] Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 11:04 AM To: ILDUPAGE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ILDUPAGE] History Look-up Offer I have bought copies of the books History of DuPage County, Illinois (C. W. Richmond, 1877) and The Story of An Old Town--Glen Ellyn (Ada Douglas Harmon 1928). Both books have name indices, and I am willing to do lookups in them. Christine Grogan grogan@go-concepts.com

Christine, You are an angel! I have a relative that although they lived in Cook County, the Obit I found was in Dupage..... Could you see if the surname of Rethmeier is mentioned in the History of Dupage County? Thanks, Pattie -----Original Message----- From: Christine Grogan [mailto:grogan@go-concepts.com] Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 12:04 PM To: ILDUPAGE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ILDUPAGE] History Look-up Offer I have bought copies of the books History of DuPage County, Illinois (C. W. Richmond, 1877) and The Story of An Old Town--Glen Ellyn (Ada Douglas Harmon 1928). Both books have name indices, and I am willing to do lookups in them. Christine Grogan grogan@go-concepts.com

I have bought copies of the books History of DuPage County, Illinois (C. W. Richmond, 1877) and The Story of An Old Town--Glen Ellyn (Ada Douglas Harmon 1928). Both books have name indices, and I am willing to do lookups in them. Christine Grogan grogan@go-concepts.com

Does anyone know whether copies of 19th C DuPage County newspapers exit and if they do, where they can be researched? Christine Grogan

------Original Message------ From: Janet <janetpearson@earthlink.net> To: OhAirtnead@aol.com Sent: October 6, 2000 2:40:34 PM GMT Subject: RE: [ILDUPAGE] The Lure of Babcock's Grove You're very welcome! here is the address and info: Along with "DuPage Roots", I have purchased the "1874 Atlas and History of DuPage County" and a copy of the 1862 DuPage Plat. I have referred to these CONSTANTLY for my own research as well as researching for others. This Museum is right in downtown Wheaton and just down the block from the library. ---- DuPage County Historical Museum & Historical Society 102 E. Wesley, Wheaton, IL 60187-5321 Phone: (630) 682-7343 Hours: Mon, Wed, Fri & Sat. 10 am - 4 pm and Sunday 1- 4 pm. Small Research Library Census Records: 1840, 1850, 1860 and 1870 (microfilm). Various Plat Maps Selected City Directories 1915 - 1926 Selected Telephone directories 1937 - 1986 DuPage County Pioneers (pre 1850) and Settlers (1850- 1900) Applications and proof. Janet

Thanks anyway! Bonnie << Bonnie, Sorry, I don't see Wurtz in either book. I do think both books tend to emphasize the earliest settlers, who were mainly from New England and New York, and even with the pioneers, certain family names are repeated. Ada Harmon interviewed descendants of some of the early settlers of Glen Ellyn. If the family happened to stay in the area into the 20th C, there is more information. Christine >>

Hello, I would be grateful for anything you could find on Wurtz. Thank you so much for the offer. Bonnie << grogan@go-concepts.com >>

Noelle and Janet Thank you very much for your responses and information on Babcock's Grove. I'll look for DuPage Roots. Where is the DuPage County Historical Museum & Historical Society, if you know off hand? My Irish immigrant, John Hartnett, from Newcastle West, Co. Limerick, came overseas at age 19. His family was later looking for him out east, believing him to be destined for Babcock's Grove in the early 1850s. By the mid 1850s John and Daniel Hartnett (we believe John's father) could be found around Polk and May Streets (now known as Little Italy or west UIC campus) where they farmed. The farm was later subdivided and by the mid-1860s, John was on the Chicago Police force. His sons would later join the force. My research is really hazy before the Chicago Fire of 1871. I'm curious to learn why people traveled to the places that they did, especially, of course, family. How the heck did people out east or overseas hear about Babcock's Grove? Was it merely word-of-mouth or the lure of the railroad and canal projects that brought these families who just trusted they would find places to live once they arrived? These places must have really seemed to offer opportunity to those that came. So someone was either a great orator and salesman or the posting, bulletin, advertisement, or brochure for Babcock's Grove had to be very impressive. I have seen some railroad job advertisement that were circulated in Germany that made the U.S. and railroad work seem like a dream come true! These questions may never be answered but it would be interesting to get into the minds of our ancestors. Again, thank you so much for sharing your information. Next I've got to work on my wife's DuPage County Fleischers of the 1860s - good Republicans, one of the children was named "Abraham Lincoln Fleischer!!" Jerry Hartnett Crystal Lake, Illinois Researching HARTNETTs of Chicago from 1847 to Present, from Newcastle West, County Limerick, Ireland. Also researching my other Chicago area family names: Austin, Barrett, Cameron, Carey, Daley, Dilworth, Fahey, Fleischer, Gagen, Garvey, Grimes, Hartnett, Kane, Kassel, Kelliher, Kenlay, Koch, McNair, McQuaid, Murphy, O'Brian, O'Connor, O'Dell, Pritchett, Saunders, Sheehy, Spring, Sullivan, Supple, Sweeney, Torpy, Wilson, Wittenborn

Your reference to William Plum probably explains why the Lombard library is called the Plum library. As far as I know, his house and family are still there. I actually knew one of the Plums, but never connected them with Babcock's Grove. Just as in Wheaton, there are still Wheaton and Gary families, who are descended from the original settlers of the town. In fact, I went to school with several of them in Wheaton. And their houses are still there, also. Mildred in Lake Geneva, WI

It was called Lilacia Park, and the lilacs are still there today! I wonder if they ever just wear out? Mildred in Lake Geneva, WI

Janet wrote: > > >From the book > "DuPage Roots" > > page 20. Along the East Branch of the DuPage River, between the future > sites of Glen Ellyn and Lombard, brothers Ralph and Morgan Babcock staked > the first claim in 1833. ...Over the next two years these other families > were to make homes in Babcock's Grove. > Thanks for that posting, Janet. I have only seen reference to a "Mr. Babcock" and the "Babcock Brothers." It's nice to know that somebody knew their names (I sure didn't!). Pat Sabin http://patsabin.com/dupage/ > page 36. ... William Plum... Later after finishing a law degree at Yale, he > moved to Babcock's Grove (Lombard) in 1867, whence he comuted into his city > office. He and his wife Helen traveled extensively; they brought to > Lombard over 200 species of lilac bushes and thus began what is today > Lilacia Park. > > page 38. Comparable economic activity was also evident in Babcock's Grove, > newly organized and named Lombard in 1868 after developer Josiah Lombard, > who had bought the property of Reuben Mink. > > page 193...During the 1850s Babcock's Grove saw a period of development as a > farming community. The earliest settlers in the area were from New York and > New England states..... German immigrants, refugees from civil and religious > strife in their native country... An influx of Irish settlers had its > beginnings in this period as well. Although many came as laborers on the > canals and railroads, others, with a typical love of the land and the money > to purchase it, were able to pursue the occupation they new best, farming. > > This book is great.. this is just an excerpt.. if you want pictures and more > info, I would recommend getting it.. I think at least one of the genealogy > societies in DuPage county sell it. > > Hope this helps. I learned something. > > Janet > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <OhAirtnead@aol.com> > To: <ILDUPAGE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 1:16 PM > Subject: [ILDUPAGE] Babcock's Grove mid 1800's > > > Does anyone know why an Irish immigrant would be destined for Babcock's > Grove > > in the mid 1800s? My gg grandfather supposedly was headed there in the > late > > 1840s or early 1850s. He ended up in Chicago by the late 1850s. My > > understanding is Babcock's Grove is now Lombard or in Lombard. Some Lilac > or > > Lilaca Park is there?? Any info would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Jerry Hartnett > > Crystal Lake, Illinois > > > >

"Du Page Roots" by Richard A. Thompson and Contributors published by the DuPage County Historical Society I bought mine at the DuPage County Historical Museum & Historical Society at a very reasonable price.. Forget the actual price but remember it was much lower than expected. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: <Sanowaczyk@aol.com> To: <ILDUPAGE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 6:59 PM Subject: Re: [ILDUPAGE] Babcock's Grove mid 1800's > What is the complete title of the book and author? > Sharon N. > Cincinnati, Ohio > >

>From the book "DuPage Roots" page 20. Along the East Branch of the DuPage River, between the future sites of Glen Ellyn and Lombard, brothers Ralph and Morgan Babcock staked the first claim in 1833. ...Over the next two years these other families were to make homes in Babcock's Grove. page 36. ... William Plum... Later after finishing a law degree at Yale, he moved to Babcock's Grove (Lombard) in 1867, whence he comuted into his city office. He and his wife Helen traveled extensively; they brought to Lombard over 200 species of lilac bushes and thus began what is today Lilacia Park. page 38. Comparable economic activity was also evident in Babcock's Grove, newly organized and named Lombard in 1868 after developer Josiah Lombard, who had bought the property of Reuben Mink. page 193...During the 1850s Babcock's Grove saw a period of development as a farming community. The earliest settlers in the area were from New York and New England states..... German immigrants, refugees from civil and religious strife in their native country... An influx of Irish settlers had its beginnings in this period as well. Although many came as laborers on the canals and railroads, others, with a typical love of the land and the money to purchase it, were able to pursue the occupation they new best, farming. This book is great.. this is just an excerpt.. if you want pictures and more info, I would recommend getting it.. I think at least one of the genealogy societies in DuPage county sell it. Hope this helps. I learned something. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: <OhAirtnead@aol.com> To: <ILDUPAGE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 1:16 PM Subject: [ILDUPAGE] Babcock's Grove mid 1800's > Does anyone know why an Irish immigrant would be destined for Babcock's Grove > in the mid 1800s? My gg grandfather supposedly was headed there in the late > 1840s or early 1850s. He ended up in Chicago by the late 1850s. My > understanding is Babcock's Grove is now Lombard or in Lombard. Some Lilac or > Lilaca Park is there?? Any info would be greatly appreciated. > > Jerry Hartnett > Crystal Lake, Illinois > >