> Can anyone shed some light on a relationship of "SR" in the 1880 >Census?? It refers to a 6month old female with a different last name than >the head of household. Thanks, >Lisa > I seem to recall something about "Servant in Residence." Maybe a reference in Latin, perhaps. I have often heard and sometimes recognized those seemingly familiar terms, but never studied the language. Then again, my memory may be playing tricks on me, but even so it wouldn't be unusual these days, let alone in the old days, for an itinerant domestic servant to have a dependant. Or three. Or so I reckon. Then again.... Hmmm...

My first guess would be that it's really "SD" for step-daughter. I don't know if that makes sense for that family but it's the only thing I could think of. Maybe there's a colloquial term for 'adopted' or 'taking care of' that I'm not familiar with. Matt >From: "Lisa Fehrenbach" <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Subject: Census Relationship? > > Can anyone shed some light on a relationship of "SR" in the 1880 >Census?? It refers to a 6month old female with a different last name than >the head of household. Thanks, >Lisa Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Can anyone shed some light on a relationship of "SR" in the 1880 Census?? It refers to a 6month old female with a different last name than the head of household. Thanks, Lisa

Thought I would pass this on: To make your query work harder for you ... keep in mind the old rules of news reporting and include as many of the following as possible: WHO: State the names of people as completely as you can. WHAT: Try to limit your query to one or two specific events or bits of information. Post another one or more later with additional questions rather than load all your questions into one. In this way each of your questions will stand out and get attention. WHEN: Dates are important, if you don't know the day, month and year try to put in a period (1790s, late 1800s, etc.) WHERE: Mention the location in the body of the query. Include a more specific location if you can. WHY: Why are you searching for this (these) individual(s)? Describe your connection to him/her. HOW: How your query appears will often get subscriber's attention. Check spelling, grammar and format. Apply the KISS system: Keep It Simple Simple. SUBJECT FIELD: To get the most from your query, place the SURNAME, LOCATION, YEAR in the subject field. Remember! Many subscribers belong to multiple list servers; therefore, many go through their mail looking at subject fields only. Unfortunately, messages with "My Family," "My Line," "My Grandfather," "My JONES," etc., as subjects are deleted without ever being opened. REPETITION: Once you have an acceptable looking query, save it and update it as necessary. Use it again about once a quarter to touch base with new members. Also, you may use it on web sites that accepts queries. REMEMBER: Your goal is to get information. A list server (discussion group) such as this is an excellent means for helping you reach it. Make the query work! By following these recommendations, your query stands a better chance of being read and you may make that great contact that you need. GOOD QUERIES CONNECT ... by Jim Young

In the 1880 Census for Sedgwicke Co. KS my grt. grt. grandmother was listed as Anna and born in Illinois. I have no idea what county she was born in that is why I have gone to the county list of IL for help. I went to the LDS center and her husband had a pedigree and that is where I found her listed as Rhoda Ann Chapman, but someone had guessed that she had been born in 1849 in Nashville, Davidson Co, TN. So would you please help me find her and thanks and blessings to you. Pastor Barbara

Does anyone happen to have the 1860 Randolph County, Illinois census that would be willing to do a lookup for me? I would like to know the census entries for the following two families: James Roberts #885 Ellis Grove Township R163 and Susanna Roberts #888 Ellis Grove Township R163 Thank you, Gail

Through the kindness of Marlyn Duff and her husband I have a picture taken at Evans studio in Clinton, IL of the following: Margaret Anna Trowbridge, Pearl Shaw, "Duck" Griner( believed to be Rachel), Lucille Severs. If anyone on the list would like me to scan it to them just let me know, it is a lovely picture of the four young ladies. Earliene [email protected]

Is anyone on the list researching the Murphy and or Cross family in early DeWitt?? I am interested to know the parents of: Richard Murphy b. abt. 1827 KY Joseph b. abt. 1815 KY Alfred b. abt. 1803 KY Mildred French m/ Peter Murphy,(probably brother to William) he died before 1840 Mildred then married Solomon Cross 12-29-1840 in DeWitt County I do not believe they would have had any children and Solomon Sr. is gone by 1850. Does anyone know the story on these families. Does anyone know which of the Murphy children belong to Mildred??? Any help appreciated. Earliene Kaelin [email protected]

Thanks to Lacinda, Here is the court record information so many of you have asked about: Macon County Macon County Clerk 253 E Wood St Decatur, IL 62523 217-424-1305 All records were no required to be filed until 1916 - so records before then could or could not be filed. Birth - some start at 1850 but required after 1916 Death - some start at 1877 but required after 1916 Marriage - some start at 1877 but required after 1916 All copies are certified there is no uncertified copies for family research. The fee is $7.00 The record must be 75 years old in order for you to receive it for Genealogy Purposes otherwise you must be related. Dewitt County - DeWitt County Clerk[NL]P.O. Box 439[NL]Clinton, IL 61727-0439[NL](217) 935-2119 Birth - some in 1878 but not required to file until 1916 Death - some 1878 but not required to file until 1916 Marriage - some 1839 but not required to file until 1916 All birth certificates are $5.00 no matter what the purpose All certified copies of Marriage and Death are $5.00 Death and marriage certificates for Genealogy Purposes are $2.00 I hope this helps... The older records are held by the IRAD offices as well.. It would be much cheaper since you get 10 copies for $1.00. If you need address to Irad and do not know where to look please let me know.

Hello, My ancestors are Mose Larry ( son of Timothy Leary) and Lillie Belle Rogers. They were married in DeWitt County on October 20, 1880. My question is: Lillie is listed on the 1880 census with the George Patton family along with a 6 month old girl "A. May" Rogers. Is anyone researching the Patton family from DeWitt county?? I'm trying to figure out what this means...Is A.May perhaps her child born out of wedlock?? Is she perhaps related to George Patton's wife Hannah?? Is she a servant living in the household? Would really appreciate hearing from anyone who has knowledge of the George Patton family. Thanks, Lisa Fehrenbach DePere, WI

Below is a report I have done in hopes to get information on David McClimans who married Inez Trowbridge daughter of James and Rachel Griner Trowbridge, I am posting it in hopes it will help someone else also: Earliene [email protected] / [email protected] Mc Climans in DeWitt County 1850 Census dwelling # 189 McLimans, Samuel wm age 48 b. OH (1802) Rachel wf age 46 b. OH (1804) Mary wf age 20 b. OH (1830) Sarah wf age 13 b. OH (1837) Dwelling #215 (think this female could be nee McClimans because Martin Harris enumerated with David McClimans 1860) Hutchin, John wm age 32 b. OH (1818) Elizabeth wf age 27 b. OH (1823) Nancy wf age 3 b. IL Andrew wm age 1 b. IL Margaret wf age 12 b. OH David wm age 8 b. OH Dwelling #216 Bartley, John wm age 28 b. OH (1822) Nancy wf age 23 b. OH (1827) Mary A. wf age 3 b. OH Rachel J. wf age 10/12 b. OH McClimans Hannah wf age 14 b. OH (1836) Dwelling# 646 Parker, Thomas wm age 33 b. OH (1817) Jane wf age 21 b. OH (1829) Martha G. wf age 7/12 b. IL McLimans, Elliot H. wm age 32 b. PA (1818) Marriages 1850-1859 Sarah McClimans to Joshua C. Humphries 1-6-1853 Probable daughter of Samuel and Rachel/ son of John and Thursey Humphreys Mary McClimans to William H. Gardner 2-24-1853 Probable daughter of Samuel and Rachel/ son of unknown Margaret McClimans toThomas C. Humphreys 10-1-1854 (Thomas dies 1855) Margaret unknown parentage/ Son of John and Thursey Humphreys Ruth McClimans to David Gregory 5-27-1858 Unknown parentage Margaret Mc Climans to Ebonezer Howard 12-1-1859 Unknown parentage Need 1855 State Census for McClimans to help determine above parentage??? 1860 Census page 549 Maragret McClimans wf age 66 Widow b. PA (1794) James wm age 35 b. OH (1825) Lydia Runion age 12 b. IL Page 611 William McClimans wm age 49 b. PA (1811) Amanda J. wf age 48 b. OH (1812) Josuha wm age 15 b. OH (1845) Daniel J. wm age 14 b. OH (1846) James wm age 12 b. OH (1848) Sarah wf age 8 b. OH (1852) William age 2 b. IL (1858) Page 616 David McClimans wm age 18 b. OH (1842) Ellen wf age 19 b. IL (nee Humphreys) (1841) Rachel wf age 59 Widow b. unknown(1801) (wife of Samuel?) Martin L. Harrison (?) wm age 21 b. OH Marriages 1860-1869 David McClimans to Elizabeth Ellen Humphreys 3-15-1860 son of Samuel and Rachel/daugther of unknown (probably of John and Thersa Humphreys only ones old enough 1860 census) 1870 Census Barnett Township page 20-21 David Mc Climans wm age 30 b. OH (1840) Ellen wf age 31 b. IL Anna B. wf age 9 b. IL Emma wf age 5 b. IL Eva wf age 2 b. IL Uriah Hunter wm age 32 b. KY John Irwin wm age 35 b. PA Page 25/26 McClimans, William wm age 57 b. PA (1813) Amanda wf age 43 b. OH (1827) Daniel J. wm age 25 b. OH (1845) James T. wm age 22 b. OH (1848) Sarah I. wf age 18 b. OH (1852) William L. wm age 13 b. IL (1857) Mary J. age 9 b. IL (1861) David wm age 5 b. IL (1865) Tunbridge Township page 7 James McClimans wm age 47 b. OH (1823) Daniel McClimans wm age 44 b. OH (1826) Margaret Howard age 39 b. OH (1841)widow of Ebonezer Howard Margaret Howard wf age 7 b. IL James D. Howard wm age 4 b. IL Mary J. Howard wf age 2 b. IL Page 24 Ruth Gregory wf age 44 b. OH (1826) widow of David Gregory John wm age 13 b. IL A. Lincoln wm age 10 b. IL Elizabeth McClimans wf age 18 b. IL (1852)daughter of William same as above. Also 1860 William H. Gardner wm age 35 b. OH (1825) Mary wf age 29 b. OH (1831) Sarah E. wf age 5 b. IL James M. wm age 4 b. IL Henry wm age 2 b. IL J.C. Humphries wm age 32 b. OH (1828) Sarah wf age 24 b. OH (1836) Andrew wm age 6 b. IL David wm age 2 b. IL John Y. Bartley wm age 38b. OH (1822) Nancy wf age 33 b. OH (1827) Mary A. wf age 13 b. OH (1847) Rachel J. wf age 10 b. OH (1850) Samuel Mc wm age 6 b. IL Margaret wf age 3 b. IL 1870 Census William Gardner wm age 45 b. OH (1825) Mary wf age 42 b. OH (1832) Alice wf age16 b. IL Henry wm age 12 b. IL Rachel wf age 9 b. IL Charles wm age 8 b. IL Mollie wf age 6 b. IL Edward wm age 3 b. IL Josh Humphrey wm age 43 b. OH (1827) Sarah wf age 36 b. OH (1834) Andrew wm age 16 b. IL David M. wm age 12 b. IL Charles L. wm age 1 b. IL Nora wf age 1 b. IL John Bartley wm age 47 B. PA(1823) Nancy wf age 43 b. OH (1827) Samuel L. wm age 16 b. IL Margaret E. wf age 13 b. IL J. Franklin wm age 10 b. IL Sarah E. wf age 7 b. IL David E. wm age 4 b.IL Marriages 1870-1879 Daniel J. McClimans to Sarah J. Jones 11-17-1870 Son of William and Amanda /daughter of Campbell Jones/ Luvesta Upton Sary Mc Climans to James Mathews 1-5-1871 Daughter of William and Amanda/(son of Henry and Eliza Mathews?) Daniel McClimans to Mary A Howard 2-27-1873 Parentage unknown David McClimans to Sarah E. Neal 2-7-1878 Must be David b. 1840 OH/unknown parentage of Sarah. William L. McClimans to Arminta Cruse 9-22-1881 Son of William and Amanda/parentage of Arminta unknown Anna B. McClimans to Charles D. Bowles 8-22-1880 Daughter of David and Ellen/ son of unknown Mary J. McClimans to Austin R. Morse 2-24-1881 Daughter of William amd Amanda/ son of William B. and Nancy Gasten Morse McCliman Burials: McClimans Cemetery Samuel d. 8-13-1855 45y 29d (b. 14-15 July 1801) Rachel d. 10-28-1883 80y 28d (b. 9-30-1803) David 1841-1931 1st wife Elizabeth Ellen 1840-1877 (nee Humphreys) 2nd wife Sarah E. 1859-1934 (nee Neal) Elvy L. d. 6-15-1872 1day John L. 7-16-1871/7-30-1906 William F. 2-13-1874/6-25-1908 Lelia dau of D.I. & A.L. d. 4-14-1899 9m 18d David I. 1865-1949 Ada 1875- 1938 Isaac W. son of D. I. & A.L. d. 2-4-1893 4d Lyla dau of D.I. & A.L. d. 4-11-1899 1y 1m 2d Tunbridge Cem: James McClimans 1790-1872 W/ Margaret 1794-1869 Child no data Child no data Woodlawn Cem: Matthews, Sarah J. McClimans wife of James d. 12-9-1908 57y 11m 9d (b.12-30-1850) David McClimans 1877-1961 Inez 1884-1959 (nee: Trowbridge daughter of James and Rachel Griner Trowbridge)

Thanks to Marge -- we have just added the McGraw Cemetery inscriptions to the Eli Halsey Homepage at: http://members.aol.com/rehfla/elihalsey/index.html Bottom left of page -- link to "LOOKUPS" DeWitt County. Bob Halsey [email protected] Viera, FL

Is anyone researching the Summers or Morrows of DeWitt County? My lines intersect at William Harrison Summers and Rachel Morrow. William H.'s father was a William S. Summers born abt. 1802 and married to a Cynthia Ann Isham in Indiana. I have a marriage certificate that spells her name as Synthea Ann. They were married on December 15, 1828 in Henry County, Indiana. I'm also interested in the last sentence of William H.'s obit. William Harrison Summers obit is as follows: <Monday afternoon at 3:10 marded the passing of the oldest native-born citizen of DeWitt county when William H. Summers died at home of his son M. K. Summers (my great-grandfather), in Weldon, at the age of eighty two years, the ? of advanced years being the cause of death. He had made his home with the son since his retirement from the farm in 1907. W. H. Summers was born near Waynesville, February 14, 1833, where he resided for many years, having learned the trade of brick mason from his father who came to this county in an earlier day. He worked at this trade in this county in various places, after going to Bloomington where he followed the smae calling for twenty years, returning to DeWitt County and settling on a farm near Weldon in ?. Here he made his home until his retirement eight years ago. In early life he was married to Miss Rachel Morrow, seven children being born to them. Those surviving are Laura, wife of P.M. Smallwood of Weldon, Mrs. Nellie East of Decatur, Elmer F. of Peoria and M. K. of Weldon. In the early sixties, deceased came into prominence here when he killed Postmaster Roberts, for which he was exonerated.> This last sentence is very interesting as I also have a line of Roberts from DeWitt county as my great grandfather McKinnon Kenneth Summers (the above mentioned M.K.) married a Getrude Roberts. I'm also looking for any information on The Morrow family, Rachel Morrow's father being a Leonard P. Morrow married to Sarah Williams and his father James Morrow married to a Sarah Ann. This Morrow family migrated from Indiana, most probably Fayette County, where Rachel was born and James died in 1845. Please, if anyone has any information, please please email me. I have had no leads whatsoever for a while and it's stumping me. Karen R. Abbott [email protected]

Can someone on the list help this person??? I found only the census reading below and nothing in the marriage or Cemetery records that I have. Please respond to her personally as she does not belong to the list Her address: [email protected] I need to ask a question, if someone moved to an area after the 1860 census and died before the 1870 census, where would be a good place to check for their place of residence...proof that they lived in DeWitt County, IL between those years?.... The gentlemen in question are Edward Caton, Sr. b. about 1819 in Ireland and his son Edward, Jr. b. about 1863, Pendleton County, WV.....Edward Sr. is reported to have died about 1866...possibly in DeWitt County... The reason I even suggest lookups in DeWitt is because his son, Edward, Jr., is reported to have made a statement regarding his father in a publication entitled the History of DeWitt County, IL under the Biography of Edward J. Cayton... I thought maybe you might find Ed, Jr in the 1870 census, some thought he went with his father...but it looks as though he went to DeWitt later...I know Edward Jr was in DeWitt at some point...I have a letter dated 1921 from Edward, Jr. to his sister in WV, it was postmarked DeWitt County, IL....and indicated that he had been living there for some time... At this point, I am wondering if Edward, Sr. ever made it to DeWitt, but his son seems to think so...also, Edward Jr had a sister, Sarah Agnes Caton who married Benjamin Franklin Bland, they were in DeWitt County as well...they were married in 1870, but I do not know which state.... I hope my info is not confusing, but I guess I need to now look for sources after 1870 for Edward, Sr. children...any suggestions...?...thanks, Caroline ALL I FOUND: 1860 DeWitt County Census John Caton wm age 29 b. Ireland Mary wf age 30 b. Ireland James wm age 3 b. NY John wm age 1 b. IL Wapella township page 654

I recently saw in an antique store here in Florida, a framed Family History of the HENRY WILDY family from Illinois. I didn't buy it, but thought that I'd try to track down a living descendant that may be interested in it! It was so sad to see it hanging in a store! What I would give for a document like that for one of my ancestors!!!! The names were as follows: HENRY WILDY b.26 Sept 1868 St Clair Co, ILL HENRY WILDY of Pulaski Co, ILL married on Nov 26, 1891 in Olmstead, IL to LAURA A. CLARK. She was born 12 Sept 1869 in Crittendon Co, KY. Children: MAUDE ELISSYBETH WILDY b. July 2, 1893 CLARA KATE WILDY b. Sept 19, 1895-d.Jan 7, 1896 JAMES WILDY b.Sept 10, 1901 MARY ANN WILDY b.Jan 29, 1904 Since then, I have found on the Social Security Death Index that the above JAMES WILDY b.Sept 10, 1901 DIED IN RANDOLPH CO, IL in July 1981. He lived in Red Bud. If anyone knows of any of his descendants, please pass this message along to them. That is, if you think they'd be interested in the family history document! If this rings a bell with anyone let me know! Julie

Looking for someone who is researching the CUNDIFF name in DeWitt County. Sarah A. Cundiff married James M. North on Nov. 29, 1864. James served in the Civil War. Have some information on Sarah and James. I thought he was one of my North's, but it doesn't look like he is. (Drats!!) Take care, Kaylynn [email protected]

Is anyone researching the Samuel's / Griner/Jackson families in DeWitt??? Rachel Griner m/ Robert Giles Samuels 7-11-1847 Marion Co. IN They migrated with: Joseph Samuels (wife America Jackson m/ 10-4-1846 Marion Co, IN) to DeWitt County about 1855 along with them came George W. Griner, he married Mary Coppenbarger and his brother James and sister Rebecca. Can anyone tell me more?? Where did James and Rebecca go???? George stayed and is buried in DeWitt as are the Samuel families. Earliene Kaelin [email protected]

We just added two new links; one to the new LDS Family History - On-line site, and to a site that has on-line Census data and lookup volunteers, by state. Check the bottom right of the page at: http://members.aol.com/rehfla/elihalsey/index.html Bob Halsey [email protected] Viera, FL

Just checked the site and it IS up and running now. Haven't gone through much of it, but it looks promising! http://lds-online.com/family.htm Kaylynn [email protected]

We have just added the Name Index for the 1860 DeWitt County, IL Census which is in the GEN Archives. The Index was provided by Earliene, the DeWitt County Listing Host. You can find the index at: http://members.aol.com/rehfla/elihalsey/index.html At the bottom left of the page is a link "LOOKUPS" DeWitt County. On the DeWitt page is a link at the bottom to the 1860 Census. I have included McLean and Logan Counties because many of the names are the same in all three counties. I use to live on a farm in DeWitt, go to school at Ben Funk Elem in McLean, and ride my horse to the west farm in Logan. Hope you enjoy, Bob Halsey [email protected] Viera, FL