Try http://www.copyright.gov and http://www.loc.gov/copyright. Sorry I can't get these to come up as hyperlinks. >From: Mary Kathryn Kozy <mkozy@attglobal.net> >To: ILCRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [ILCRAWFO] Info on HR 3261 on copyrighting of data >Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 08:23:56 -0800 > >--=======67AF501C======= >Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-3DE47265; charset=us-ascii; >format=flowed >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > >You all might want to check out this bill. It apparently has rather large >ramifications for all types of data (read that as genealogical data). The >way most people understand it is that once some data was published by >someone, it would then be considered "copyrighted" by them, and would not >be able to be redistributed. If you do a Google search (which, BTW, might >also be affected by this type of a bill) on the name of the bill (HR 3261 >or HR3261), there is more information out there. Does anyone know more >about this than me, and am I worrying for nothing? If not, we might want to >contact our representatives on this one. > >http://www.publicknowledge.org/content/legislation/legislation-hr3261-bill/attachment > >Mary Kathryn Kozy >mkozy@attglobal.net > >--=======67AF501C=======-- > _________________________________________________________________ Let the advanced features & services of MSN Internet Software maximize your online time. http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200363ave/direct/01/

--=======67AF501C======= Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-3DE47265; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit You all might want to check out this bill. It apparently has rather large ramifications for all types of data (read that as genealogical data). The way most people understand it is that once some data was published by someone, it would then be considered "copyrighted" by them, and would not be able to be redistributed. If you do a Google search (which, BTW, might also be affected by this type of a bill) on the name of the bill (HR 3261 or HR3261), there is more information out there. Does anyone know more about this than me, and am I worrying for nothing? If not, we might want to contact our representatives on this one. http://www.publicknowledge.org/content/legislation/legislation-hr3261-bill/attachment Mary Kathryn Kozy mkozy@attglobal.net --=======67AF501C=======--

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ue.2ADI/1119.2.1.1 Message Board Post: Do either of you good people know anything about three Weck ladies (may have been sisters or cousins) that married into the Curtis family of Ctawford Co.....Hannah, b. 1876, Mattie, b. 1887, or Celia, b. 1888? I have no other info on them except for birth and death dates. Cheryl at: lovey@wabash.net

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ue.2ADI/1119.2.1 Message Board Post: Dona, Thanks so much for your reply. I have not had much time lately to do any further research, but I will be glad to send you what I have on the Wecks in my family. John and Sophia are also my gr, gr, gr grandparents. Their son John Eli Weck is my gr gr grandfather and his son was Louie Robert Weck who was married to Flo Goldie Bowen. Louie also had 3 other brothers named Harlen, Grover and Avery. I currently live in Lexington, Ky where my grandfather Carl Rober Weck (Louie and Flo's son) moved to in the 1960's. My address is: 2242 Harrods Pointe Trace, Lexington, KY 40514. I look forwarding to hearing from you again. I will make copies of my stuff this weekend and send it out to you beginning of next week. Thanks again for the info in advance, Kim

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Criss/Higgins/Brashears/Earley Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ue.2ADI/1318 Message Board Post: Looking for more info re John Criss b 1830 who married Mary Polly Higgins b 1837 (Daughter of Levi Higgins and Catherine Simons, 2nd wife of Levi). Any Have recently confirmed that Jacob Criss b. ca 1795 in Ky and Nancy Brashears were indeed John Criss' parents. Additional info is that Jacob's sister was Hannah Earley of Crawford Co, Il. Anyone have info on the Earley's or this line of Criss?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ue.2ADI/1317.2.1 Message Board Post: Hi Cindy, Email me at max@alumbaugh.com along with your snail mail address. I will send you the clipping. The clipping shows the couple and also has photo of son Dr.S. E. Lindley. It is so fragile part of the couple photo is missing and part of a second article on them but there is quite a bit there. Donna

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Lindley Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Ue.2ADI/1317.2 Message Board Post: I connect to this family, but not closely. I would be interested in this clipping. I would transcribe it and post it here on the Internet so everyone could read it if you would like to send it to me. Cindy

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Bradbury, Hines, Crocker Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ue.2ADI/1278.4.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks for the Biography. It explains alot. Does this book mention other Bradburys from NC? Alfred, Curtis, James, Barna Wayne Co Deeds 10-4-1821 Hannah Hines deed of gift to her grandson CURTIS BRADBURY Witnessed by John Bradbury. Who are the parents of Curtis? Is Hannah related to Mary Hines Bradbury? I don't know if my surname ties into Bradbury. In summary, oral history... Alfred/Alford Crocker B 1803 NC mar. Pearcy Wilson B1805 Goldsboro,NC. 8 Children All Born Goldsboro NC. 1st Born 1820 last Born 1842 Jesse(my line), Zelpha,Curtis, Simpson V., Elizabeth Amanda, William R., Richard, Sally/Sarah. oral history...Alford/Alfred Crocker had a sister, Birth year and name unknown, married a Bradbury/Bradberry. In the summer of 1847, Alfred Bradbury and the Crocker family left Wayne Co, NC and moved to Crawford Co, Illinois. Documented....1st record I have found (placing Crocker in llinois)Jesse Crocker mar. Anna Perkins 1-5-1848 Crawford Co, Ill. 2nd record 1850 Census. Mother-Pearcy and her children are present. Alford Crocker, the father is missing. Alfred Bradbury and wife live next door. Help is appreciated. Will share what I have and/or help with select NC County inquirys.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ue.2ADI/1317.1 Message Board Post: Hi, Not my close relatives either, but here is an obit for anyone: SAMUEL LINDLEY DEATH Samuel Lindley , a prosperous farmer and one of the most popular and prominent citizens of Hustonville township, died Monday night at his home northwest of the village, after an illness of several weeks. Samuel Lindley, son of William and Mary Lindley, was born near Hutsonville, Illinois, May 28, 1832 and died March 22, 1915, aged 82 years, 9 months and 24days. He was united in marriage to Harriet Hollenbeck on the 2nd day of October, 1861.  To this union were born seven children as follows:  Emma, Charles E. Mollie, Ollie and William, Viola, and Samuell E. All of the children, except Mollie, survive the deceased. Five of the brothers and sisters of the deceased have departed this life within the last five years and three of them within the last year. He was united with the Pleasant Grove Baptist church in the year 1876 and remained a faithful member of the church until his death. He leaves to mourn his departure his widow, six children and a host of relatives and friends.   Funeral services were held at the family home Wednesday afternoon conducted by Rev. J. L. Cox. Interment in the Hutsonville Cemetery.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ue.2ADI/1317 Message Board Post: This is not my family. I have an old newspaper clipping about 1900 of the 50th wedding anniversary of Mr. and Mrs. Samuel Lindley. Tells when and where they married etc. Will send at no cost to someone who connects to them. They were living near Hustonville, in Crawford Co., Illinois.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Bradbury, Hines, Cox, Buckner, Evans, Huckaby, Ingals, Polk Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Ue.2ADI/1278.4.1 Message Board Post: The parents of John S. Bradbury were John Bradbury and Mary Hines. Here is an 1883 biography of John S. Bradbury documenting that information. John S. would have been alive at the time it was written, so he is probably the source of the information. I would assume that it would be quite accurate. Do you descend from this family?--Cindy Biography of John S. Bradbury (1883,History of Crawford and Clark Counties, Illinois, p. 262-263) John S. Bradbury, farmer, P. O. West York. This enterprising pioneer, whose portrait appears in this book, was born August 17, 1822, in North Carolina, is a son of John and Mary (Hines) Bradbury, natives, the former of North Carolina, and the latter of Maryland, and the parents of six children--Anna, married Cornelius Martin; Peter (deceased); Martha, married Bryant Cox, she is deceased; James (deceased); Moreland (dead) and John S. The father was a farmer and cooper by trade, and at one time possessed a large fortune in North Carolina, but with a child-like confidence he trusted many persons and went security for them, the result of which completely broke him up. In 1828, the family rigged up two two-wheeled carts and came to Orange Count, Ind., where they remained among a number of acquaintances who had located there. Their stay was prolonged on account of James being sick. They located, in the year mentioned above, in Crawford County. In 1829, the father died, leaving! the family on a rented farm. The boys, possessing the eternal grit that is characterized in the Carolinians, rolled up their sleeves and soon had enough means to buy a small home for the family. The mother died in 1847. In those days the only chance for obtaining an education, was at the pioneer school cabin, with slab seats, and writing desks, greased paper for window lights, etc. Mr. B. had only six months' schooling, and in such a structure as the one mentioned above. John was the younger son, and upon him devolved the duty of going to mill, as the other boys were stronger and could handle the plows and do the general farm work with more ease then he. On one occasion, he and a neighbor boy started to mill, some miles awy, on horseback, the usual way of going, and after they had journeyed a distance from any settlements, the sacks managed to tip, and off they went.. The little fellows were not able to get the sacks on their faithful animals, with all the corn in t! hem, so they emptied about one half of it to the disposal of the littl e wild animals, and went on with the rest. At one time our subject was dropping corn for a man by the name of Williamson, who sent him for the cows one evening, and when he was just entering the timber, he saw a large Indian coming, whereupon he turned for home and fled for safety. The Indian was very friendly and was only onhis way to a neighor's to trade some skins for corn. Meetings were often held about Mr. B's home by the red men, and he became well acquainted with some of them. He was married in February 12, 1844, to Jemima Buckner, a daughter of Henry and Martha (Evans) Buckner. Her parents emigrated to this county about 1818, settling in Hutsonville Township. Her parents were blessed with Jesse, Charles, Enos, John, Jemima, Sarah, and William. Her parents were Methodists while Mr. B's were Quaker. Mrs. Bradbury died in 1851, and he was subsequently married to Nancy Huckaby. They result of the first union was James, P. G. and Catharine, who married Harper Inga! ls. The last union gave him eight children, viz.: Andrew, John, Rora, George, Alice, Abbie, Willis and Nancy. It is not too much to say he has reared an excellent family. Not one of them ever used intoxicating drink or tobacco, unless it was to occasionally smoke a cigar. He settled his present farm in 1850, buying 90 acres and going in debt for it. He now owns 335 acres of well improved land, the result of his own labors. He cast his first Presidential vote of James K. Polk, and has always been a stanch Democrat. He is a member of York Lodge. A. F. & A. M.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: CRISS, HIGGINS, BRASHEARS, EARLEY Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ue.2ADI/1115.1 Message Board Post: Have recently confirmed that Jacob Criss and Nancy Brashears were indeed John Criss' parents. Additional info is that Jacob's sister was Hannah Earley of Crawford Co, Il. Anyone have info on the Earley's or this line of Criss?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Clements, Bradbury Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ue.2ADI/1278.4 Message Board Post: Dear Sir: I have come accross some "Clements" family members as listed in the Bradbury Cemetary. Mary A. W/o G.W. 1861-1936 George W. 1860-1944 Gordon D. 1916-1938 Carl W. 1892-1974 Opal H. W/o C.W. 1895-1958 Lydia W/o R.M. 1875-1932 D.H. July 24, 1870-Dec 15, 1913 Estella W/o D.H. Nov 19, 1874-not present Infant d/o F.M. & Glenn No "Ripple" family members. Does anyone know why this Cemetary is named "Bradbury Cemetary"? The first Bradbury resting there is Jemima Buckner Bradbury 1824-1851, wife of Johns S. Bradbury B 1822 NC-1910. The parents of John Bradbury were born in North Carolina and lived in Goldsboro, Wayne Co. area before moving to Hutsonville Crawford Co Ill. area around 1828. Does anyone know the names of his parents? Thanks, Lynn.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ue.2ADI/1316.1 Message Board Post: There is mention of him in the "History of Crawford and Clark Counties, Illinois" by Perrin, 1883 pg. 180 that in Oblong Twp when they were organizing the early churches (1856) that his residence was used for services and that he was married. No mention of wifes name or anything else.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Jarrett Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ue.2ADI/1316 Message Board Post: looking for information on a Owen Jarrett, from Crawford Co., IL entered the Civil war, died at Bowling Green, KY. Bonnie

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ue.2ADI/1313.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I thought I had responded, but perhaps not. Jerry Sutfin is a friend of mine that lives in Lawrenceville, Il. He was in my l944 HS class. I knew his parents too, but have no idea where they originated. Do you live in Robinson ? Bob Gerhart Conroe, Texas

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Ue.2ADI/1119.1 Message Board Post: Kim- I'm hoping that you will get this. Here is the info I have on John Weck who would be my great-great-grandfather. John Weck born 1825-1904 was married to Sophia Jay their childred are: Sarah Weck b. 1861 John E Weck b.1865 Lucy E Weck b. 1869 Frank Edward Weck b.1875-1938 (my great grandfather) Amos Weck b.1879 I too have come to a brick wall on the Weck history. From what I have gathered there was quite a bit of un-spoken history there. I know my great grandfather was practically banished from the family, in fact he died in a institution in Jacksonville, IL Please contact me if you have any furter information or if you would like to have more information that I have. I can't wait to hear from you!! Tammy Mendenhall

Map: http://topozone.com/map.asp?lat=38.9162&lon=-87.8369&s=50&size=m&symshow=n&datum=nad83&layer=DRG25 Note that Hardinville is in Martin Township List of Cemeteries: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilsgs/ilcemetery-al/crawford.html Look for those in Martin Township. Quoting Mary Kathryn Kozy <mkozy@attglobal.net>: > --=======53F92868======= > Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-1A264EEB; > charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > Can someone please help this person? Not living in Crawford Co., I'm not > > really up on all the geography (though I should do better I know!). > > Mary Kozy > > Please respond directly to this individual: > > I am trying to find the names and locations of cemeteries in and around > Hardinville, Ill. Can you help me please? > > Sandy Miller > skmiller@webtv.net > > --=======53F92868=======-- > >

--=======53F92868======= Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-1A264EEB; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Can someone please help this person? Not living in Crawford Co., I'm not really up on all the geography (though I should do better I know!). Mary Kozy Please respond directly to this individual: I am trying to find the names and locations of cemeteries in and around Hardinville, Ill. Can you help me please? Sandy Miller skmiller@webtv.net --=======53F92868=======--

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Rhoads, Haddon, Wright Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Ue.2ADI/1315 Message Board Post: I am looking for the burial site of Jonathan Parker Rhoads (1826 - 1867) and his wives Margaret Jane Haddon Rhoads (1826 - 1857) and Rachel Pamela Wright Rhoads. Jonathan owned land in Honey Creek Township just southeast of New Hebron and is claimed to have been buried in New Hebron Cemetery. But no Rhoads appear on marker transcriptions for that Cemetery. The family may also have resided near Hardinville. The family originally came from Clark County and most of their descendents returned there. Any information on Rhoads in the Honey Creek area would be appreciated.