Would anyone know how I might obtain a copy of an article "The Story of the Dudley's Settlement, Bachelorsville, Oct. 9 edition 1976? Thank you, Carol(Swinford)Kessner kessner@bossig.com

Greetings to ALL! Just passin' the following msg along! Seemed to be possibly of some interest. mrbill William A. "Bill" Harrison <MRBIL1@JUNO.COM> Sponsor of the STONER and SCHNORF Family discussion lists on Rootsweb. --------- Forwarded message ---------- From: NLPhil1@aol.com To: OHROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 23:21:49 EDT Subject: [OHROOTS-L] Epidemics Message-ID: <33fa457b.2498724d@aol.com> Hello everybody, I just received this from a cousin very much into Genealogy, and thought it worth sharing. In case you ever wondered why a large number of your ancestors >disappeared during a certain period in history, this might help. Epidemics have always had a great influence on people -- and thus influencing, as well, the genealogists trying to trace them. Many cases of people disappearing from records can be traced to dying during an epidemic or moving away from the affected area. > Some of the major epidemics in the United States are listed below: >>> >>>> 1657 Boston Measles >>>> 1687 Boston Measles >>>> 1690 New York Yellow Fever >>>> 1713 Boston Measles >>>> 1729 Boston Measles >>>> 1732-3 Worldwide Influenza >>>> 1738 South Carolina Smallpox >>>> 1739-40 Boston Measles >>>> 1747 CT,NY,PA,SC Measles >>>> 1759 N. Amer [areas inhabited by white people] Measles >>>> 1761 North America and West Indies Influenza >>>> 1772 North America Measles >>>> 1775 N. Amer [especially hard in NE] epidemic Unknown >>>> 1775-6 Worldwide [one of the worst epidemics] Influenza >>>> 1783 Dover, DE ["extremely fatal"] Bilious Disorder >>>> 1788 Philadelphia and New York Measles >>>> 1793 Vermont [a "putrid" fever] and Influenza >>>> 1793 VA [killed 500 in 5 counties in 4 weeks] Influenza >>>> 1793 Philadelphia [one of the worst epidemics] Yellow Fever >>>> 1793 Harrisburg, PA [many unexplained deaths] Unknown >>>> 1793 Middletown, PA [many mysterious deaths] Unknown >>>> 1794 Philadelphia, PA Yellow Fever >>>> 1796-7 Philadelphia, PA Yellow Fever >>>> 1798 Philadelphia, PA [one of the worst] Yellow Fever >>>> 1803 New York Yellow Fever >>>> 1820-3 Nationwide [starts Schuylkill River and spreads] "Fever" >>>> 1831-2 Nationwide [brought by English emigrants] Asiatic Cholera >>>> 1832 NY City and other major cities Cholera >>>> 1837 Philadelphia Typhus >>>> 1841 Nationwide [especially severe in the south] Yellow Fever >>>> 1847 New Orleans Yellow Fever >>>> 1847-8 Worldwide Influenza >>>> 1848-9 North America Cholera >>>> 1850 Nationwide Yellow Fever >>>> 1850-1 North America Influenza >>>> 1852 Nationwide [New Orleans-8,000 die in summer] Yellow Fever >>>> 1855 Nationwide [many parts] Yellow Fever >>>> 1857-9 Worldwide [one of the greated epidemics] Influenza >>>> 1860-1 Pennsylvania Smallpox >>>> 1865-73 Philadelphia, NY, Boston, New Orleans} {Smallpox >>>> Baltimore, Memphis, Washington DC} {Cholera >>>> [A series of recurring epidemics of:} >>>> {Typhus >>>> {Typhoid >>>> {Scarlet Fever >>>> {Yellow Fever >>>> 1873-5 North America and Europe Influenza >>>> 1878 New Orleans [last great epidemic] Yellow Fever >>>> 1885 Plymouth, PA Typhoid >>>> 1886 Jacksonville, FL Yellow Fever >>>> 1918 Worldwide[high point yr] more people were {Influenza >>>> hospitalized in WWI from this epidemic than >>>> wounds. US Army training camps became death >>>> camps, with 80% death rate in some camps >>>> >>>> Finally, these specific instances of cholera were mentioned: >>>> 1833 Columbus, OH >>>> 1834 New York City >>>> 1849 New York >>>> 1851 Coles Co., IL, The Great Plains, and Missouri >>>>Nancy ==== OHROOTS Mailing List ==== This list is designed to provide a discussion forum for anyone who has an interest in Genealogy in the State of Ohio. This list will also be my way to contact you directly with any updates, changes, and other news about my page. To search this list go to http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl and enter OHROOTS for the list name. ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

A special "Thank you!" to all Coles County List Members who wrote to offer suggestions on where we should begin our research into my husband's grandfather's family history! Sorry it took so long to get back here, but our travel plans have changed, and we're leaving a week early (!!), so it's been kinda crazy 'round here .... Our sincere thanks -- I'll try to return the favor when we get back! Suzan Kaye Arkansas Researching PETERSONs in Coles & Cook Counties, IL

Hi List: If any of you just happen to run across a COVEY in any of your travels and searches, please let me know. We have those rascals spread all over Illinois and I don't exactly know where. Thanks in advance for your response. Ol' Tubby Joe Stottlemeyer should be mayor of Watson. Bill Covey Creator of Ol' Tubby Joe Stottlemeyer Author of: Watson Is Where It Wuz http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Station/3265/Welcome.html

Hello, everyone! I'm a new subscriber, looking for PETERSON families who lived in Coles County about 1877. My husband's great-grandfather John Albert Peterson was born in Mattoon Township about that time (according to his son's birth certificate), and we're still trying to find a birth record for him. (Or death certificate ... or marriage notice .... or ... ) It's quite possible the family relocated to the Chicago area soon after this child was born. Would especially like to find out John Albert Peterson's parents' names and where they came from ... and eventually whether there is any connection to the Samuel Peterson who appears in the 1840 Federal Census of Illinois. John Albert married Goldie Geraldine CLEVER (probably in Chicago) about 1898-1900. Their second child, John Albert Jr., was born in Chicago in 1901; the first child may have been a daughter. We'll be passing through Coles County in a couple of weeks to do some research into this family mystery, and would appreciate hearing from anyone who might be able to offer us suggestions on the best places to go to find basic vital records information. Am looking forward to hearing from you all! Sincerely, Suzan Kaye Mountain Home, AR spkaye@mtnhome.com

Greetings to all ILCOLES subscribers! I just spoke with a good friend and genealogist this morning, and she gave me permission to give her name as a researcher at LOW OR NO cost. If you have Coles Co queries, you may direct them to: Kathy Hartley <kathart@juno.com> Kathy has been a member of the Coles Co, IL Genealogical Society (CCGS) for many years, and has served in several offices for the CCGS. She remains active with her personal research and welcomes the opportunity to assist others with theirs. mrbill William A. "Bill" Harrison <MRBIL1@JUNO.COM> Sponsor of the STONER and SCHNORF Family discussion lists on Rootsweb. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Hi all, If Tricia is talking about Karen Zike, then I too will give any information on her, as I do know her very well. However, you must keep in mind that, while Karen is very good at what she does, she is also *extremely* swamped. We've had a problem with people writing to several people at one time (ie, me, Karen, County Clerk, Genealogical Society, etc.), which means that duplicate people are doing duplicate work, and this constitutes a serious waste of time for the people doing the research. So, my caution to all of you is....be patient. Write only to one person at a time before you write to someone else. One recent situation found 5 people doing the same work, and then, the other day, a 6th person was found to be doing the same work all for just one person. All 5 of the orignal contacts know each other, but, unfortunately, not before time and money had been spent. This has caused a lot of resentment and frustration for all of us, which is the main reason why I quit doing lookups for people, as I too am in Charleston. So, I can only caution all of you to be patient and only write to ONE person at a time. If any of you would like information on Karen, please e-mail me privately. Thanks! Linda Listowner At 12:40 PM 5/22/1999 -0400, Tricia Breeze wrote: If the person who was looking for someone to do research in Coles County will contact me direct at tbreeze@prodigy.com I will be happy to give you the name and address of a lady who does PAID research. She is very good and has reasonable rates. Tricia

If the person who was looking for someone to do research in Coles County will contact me direct at tbreeze@prodigy.com I will be happy to give you the name and address of a lady who does PAID research. She is very good and has reasonable rates. Tricia

> >Linda Lang, host of the Coles County, IL U.S. GENWEB site sometimes does >research. I don't presently have her email because my computer crashed Linda did do research in the past but she is now working and no longer has the free time which she had before. I am not familiar with the others. Bill Boyle >Sunday night and I lost EVERYTHING (bookmarks, email, email addresses, >included). > >The following Coles County, Illinois Genealogical Society people should >be able to recommend someone: > > Lawrence Bates, Newsletter Editor. Email: cflwb@eiu.edu > > William A. Harrison is woking on the "Coles County Cemeteries Update >Project" and might be able to help. Email: MRBIL1@JUNO.COM > >Both Lawrence Bates and William Harrison live in Charleston, Coles >County. > >Researching LOUTHAN, HACKLEMAN, HARSHBARGER, CARTER, SMILEY, PEASE, >PANCOAST

A note to the list: When I offered to help Lynne, I said I would ask my contact in Coles Co if she was interested in doing work for Lynne. I am not in Coles Co. I have a number of ancestors there like many others. I have little or no information other than a contact who charges $15/hr plus costs, i.e. $7 a copy for a certified birth, death or marriage record. I would love to be able to help all those who saw my message to Lynne but I cannot as I am 1500 mi away from Coles Co. myself. Good luck to htose who are searching. I will ask my contact if she is willing to take on several more clients. If so, I will post a contact method here. Thank you. Bill Boyle

bboyle@NMSU.Edu wrote: > > Lynne, > > There are folks in Charleston who can help. I can contact the researcher I > work with to see if she has time. She obtained birth, marriage, and death > records (certified copies) going back to 1846 for me from the Coles Co. > Court House. She also obtained copies of obits and such from the newspapers. > > The date you are looking for should be easier than mine from the late 1800s. > > Let me know. I have to call her mornings as shee is a part time volunteer, > > Bill > > >Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 16:52:57 EDT > >From: TheNorris4@aol.com > >To: ILCOLES-L@rootsweb.com > >Message-ID: <a7575c4a.24747ea9@aol.com> > >Subject: [ILCOLES-L] FLOCK > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > >Hi, Does anyone know if the 1900 or 1910 census for Coles Co is available for > >review? Also, does anyone have the address that I should contact to see if > >someone was born in Coles Co. in 1907? I know the IL state birth records > >start later than that. > > > >I know my ggreat-grandfather, McClelland Flock died in Mattoon in 1920. His > >death certificate stated that he had lived there at least 15 years. I have > >been searching for a list of children for him. I am trying to prove that he > >was my g-grandfather's father, as my grandmother told me, but I have never > >seen any documentation whatsoever. > > > >Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated! > > > >Lynne Norris > >

Lynne: Linda Lang, host of the Coles County, IL U.S. GENWEB site sometimes does research. I don't presently have her email because my computer crashed Sunday night and I lost EVERYTHING (bookmarks, email, email addresses, included). The following Coles County, Illinois Genealogical Society people should be able to recommend someone: Lawrence Bates, Newsletter Editor. Email: cflwb@eiu.edu William A. Harrison is woking on the "Coles County Cemeteries Update Project" and might be able to help. Email: MRBIL1@JUNO.COM Both Lawrence Bates and William Harrison live in Charleston, Coles County. Researching LOUTHAN, HACKLEMAN, HARSHBARGER, CARTER, SMILEY, PEASE, PANCOAST Jack R. Louthan louthanj@erols.com TheNorris4@aol.com wrote: Hi, Does anyone know if the 1900 or 1910 census for Coles Co is available for review? Also, does anyone have the address that I should contact to see if someone was born in Coles Co. in 1907? I know the IL state birth records start later than that. I know my ggreat-grandfather, McClelland Flock died in Mattoon in 1920. His death certificate stated that he had lived there at least 15 years. I have been searching for a list of children for him. I am trying to prove that he was my g-grandfather's father, as my grandmother told me, but I have never seen any documentation whatsoever. Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated! Lynne Norris

Lynne, There are folks in Charleston who can help. I can contact the researcher I work with to see if she has time. She obtained birth, marriage, and death records (certified copies) going back to 1846 for me from the Coles Co. Court House. She also obtained copies of obits and such from the newspapers. The date you are looking for should be easier than mine from the late 1800s. Let me know. I have to call her mornings as shee is a part time volunteer, Bill >Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 16:52:57 EDT >From: TheNorris4@aol.com >To: ILCOLES-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <a7575c4a.24747ea9@aol.com> >Subject: [ILCOLES-L] FLOCK >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Hi, Does anyone know if the 1900 or 1910 census for Coles Co is available for >review? Also, does anyone have the address that I should contact to see if >someone was born in Coles Co. in 1907? I know the IL state birth records >start later than that. > >I know my ggreat-grandfather, McClelland Flock died in Mattoon in 1920. His >death certificate stated that he had lived there at least 15 years. I have >been searching for a list of children for him. I am trying to prove that he >was my g-grandfather's father, as my grandmother told me, but I have never >seen any documentation whatsoever. > >Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated! > >Lynne Norris >

Hi, Does anyone know if the 1900 or 1910 census for Coles Co is available for review? Also, does anyone have the address that I should contact to see if someone was born in Coles Co. in 1907? I know the IL state birth records start later than that. I know my ggreat-grandfather, McClelland Flock died in Mattoon in 1920. His death certificate stated that he had lived there at least 15 years. I have been searching for a list of children for him. I am trying to prove that he was my g-grandfather's father, as my grandmother told me, but I have never seen any documentation whatsoever. Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated! Lynne Norris

Hi Listers. I got the death certificate on a relative recently and I was wondering if the address: 808 North 22nd Street, in Charleston, IL would happen to be a nursing home. Can anyone help? Many thanks. Bev Dobbins

--part1_fb0f12c1.246244ad_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_fb0f12c1.246244ad_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <DOBBINS-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from rly-yc03.mx.aol.com (rly-yc03.mail.aol.com [172.18.149.35]) by air-yc02.mail.aol.com (v59.4) with SMTP; Wed, 05 May 1999 20:00:32 -0400 Received: from bl-14.rootsweb.com (bl-14.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.30]) by rly-yc03.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id UAA08769; Wed, 5 May 1999 20:00:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-14.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA06430; Wed, 5 May 1999 17:00:03 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 17:00:03 -0700 (PDT) From: DoozieT@aol.com Message-ID: <a2d75cd6.2462348f@aol.com> Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 19:55:59 EDT Old-To: HBlazekfam@aol.com, LadyatHart@aol.com, SChadwell@aol.com, bigmike@telepak.net, artfoss@worldnet.att.net, DOBBINS-L@rootsweb.com, GAYLE-L@rootsweb.com, PastorBH2@aol.com, KimLPN@webtv.net, LINEBACK-L@rootsweb.com, jammaz@worldnet.att.net, Stargift99@aol.com, RAWLINS-L@rootsweb.com, SICKLES-L@rootsweb.com, STURGIS-L@rootsweb.com, DHShroyer@aol.com Old-Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_a2d75cd6.2462348f_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Subject: [DOBBINS-L] This is disgusting! Resent-Message-ID: <qJhbm.A.EkB.CuNM3@bl-14.rootsweb.com> To: DOBBINS-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: DOBBINS-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: DOBBINS-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <DOBBINS-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/69 X-Loop: DOBBINS-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: DOBBINS-L-request@rootsweb.com --part1_a2d75cd6.2462348f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am forwarding a portion of a posting I picked up on a mailing list today. Please note: I checked the various items and they have now been removed, but this is the kind of trash that's hanging out on the internet. Sandra > To ALL: > > All of us need to contact e-bay and protest this kind of auction. They > are > selling our ancestors cemetery markers! This is not an appropriate > auction > item! If this gets to be a trend as a collectable none of our ancestors > will be at rest under their hard earned recognition of service. Protest > to > e-bay! Tell them NO WAY! If we as a community speak up we may be able > to > slow this cemetery robbery down. See item for sale! This one is still > available: > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=96875810 others > down > at bottom of text for viewing also. It makes me want to cry. Send this > on > to those you think would care enough to protest this act of desecration. > Sorry to all list owners if this breaks any of your posting rules. But > it > is genealogy related. If anyone must comment on this to anyone. Do it > to > e-bay! > > Kathy Busby --part1_a2d75cd6.2462348f_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <ESTILLKY-D-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from rly-yc02.mx.aol.com (rly-yc02.mail.aol.com [172.18.149.34]) by air-yc04.mail.aol.com (v59.4) with SMTP; Wed, 05 May 1999 15:21:14 -0400 Received: from bl-14.rootsweb.com (bl-14.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.30]) by rly-yc02.mx.aol.com (vx) with SMTP; Wed, 05 May 1999 15:20:51 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-14.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA19596; Wed, 5 May 1999 12:19:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 12:19:37 -0700 (PDT) From: ESTILLKY-D-request@rootsweb.com Message-Id: <199905051919.MAA19596@bl-14.rootsweb.com> Subject: ESTILLKY-D Digest V99 #109 X-Loop: ESTILLKY-D@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <ESTILLKY-D@rootsweb.com> archive/volume99/109 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: ESTILLKY-D@rootsweb.com Reply-To: ESTILLKY-L@rootsweb.com - ---------------------------- Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain ESTILLKY-D Digest Volume 99 : Issue 109 Today's Topics: #1 [ESTILLKY-L] Allen/Hollingsworth/S ["Jen Bawden" <jenbawden@home.com>] #2 [ESTILLKY-L] Re: jailor ["Jen Bawden" <jenbawden@home.com>] #3 [ESTILLKY-L] Fw: [KYHARLAN-L] FW: [r1961s@juno.com] Administrivia: To unsubscribe from ESTILLKY-D, send a message to ESTILLKY-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. ______________________________ --------------------

Morning, Glenda, I've forwarded this to the Estill Co. list to see if anyone know the answer to this. If you do, please respond directly to Glenda at gng46229@aol.com as I'm not sure she's on the list. I would assume they had jailors, but I don't have a listing of any. If anyone has a listing of them and would like to add it to the pages, please contact me. Thanks! Jen ----- Original Message ----- From: <GNG46229@aol.com> To: <jenbawden@home.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 1999 10:05 PM Subject: jailor > Did Estill Co have a deputy jailor during the period of 1850 and 1890 S.G. > SHARP? > Would appreciate any help with this. > Glenda GNG46229@aol.com > ______________________________ --------------------

Hi everyone, Well, I'm trying in vain to flesh out my Allen side of the family and need your help. Jefferson Allen and Mary Hollingsworth were married in Clay Co. in 1860. They had three children, Richard, Sophia & Narcissus. They are found on the 1870 & 1880 Clay Co. census. They moved to Estill Co. sometime between 1880 - 1883 as 2 of the children were married then with the third marrying in 1887. Evidentally, Mary died or they got divorced as Jefferson is listed on the 1900 census with a new wife, Lucinda. They are listed as the parents of a Brownlo Allen age 5. Jefferson died 11 Mar 1918 in Estill Co. and is buried in Pea Ridge Cemetery. Richard married Louisa Brinegar on 15 Mar 1883 in Estill Co. They had several children and divorced by 1898. Richard is believed to have gone back to Clay Co., supposidly married a Patience Sandlin, and Louisa married a George Williams. Sophia married Nelson Stephens on 1 Apr 1883 in Estill Co. I found a Nelson Stephens listed on the 1880 Estill Co. census. He was 17 at the time, living in the household of Nancy Stephens, 40, with another young man, John, who was 14. Narcissus married William H. Robertson on 2 Jan 1887 in Estill Co. Now for question and answer time: 1. Does anyone know who Lucinda was? There is another child living in the house, listed as a daughter, by the name of Sarah Sloane who was 16. She's not one of Jefferson's children. 2. Does anyone know who this Nelson Stephens is? 3. The daughters and their husbands aren't shown on the 1900 Estill, Jackson, Owsley or Lee censuses. Does anyone know what happened to them? Did they go back to Clay Co. as their brother did? 4. Does anyone know what happened to Mary Hollingsworth Allen? Thanks so much for any help you can give me on this. Jen Jen Bawden jenbawden@home.com ______________________________ --------------------

--------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Arkley & Kathy" <arkley@castles.com> To: KYHARLAN-L@rootsweb.com Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 13:00:51 -0700 Subject: [KYHARLAN-L] FW: Stolen Tombstones for Sale? Maybe Message-ID: <000001be959f$a5272fa0$3bf7aa26@kathy> To ALL: All of us need to contact e-bay and protest this kind of auction. They are selling our ancestors cemetery markers! This is not an appropriate auction item! If this gets to be a trend as a collectable none of our ancestors will be at rest under their hard earned recognition of service. Protest to e-bay! Tell them NO WAY! If we as a community speak up we may be able to slow this cemetery robbery down. See item for sale! This one is still available: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=96875810 others down at bottom of text for viewing also. It makes me want to cry. Send this on to those you think would care enough to protest this act of desecration. Sorry to all list owners if this breaks any of your posting rules. But it is genealogy related. If anyone must comment on this to anyone. Do it to e-bay! Kathy Busby The illusion that we are separate from one another is an optical delusion of our consciousness. -Albert Einstein -----Original Message----- From: Carolyn Feroben [mailto:funfifty@pacbell.net] Sent: Monday, May 03, 1999 12:27 PM To: NORCAL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Stolen Tombstones for Sale? Maybe This one is still available: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=96875810 Carolyn Betty J. Cox wrote: (NOT ALL REMOVED! And no policy change!) > > Well... The power of group consciousness! All those cemetery markers have been > removed from e-bay!!! Atta a way to go, NORCAL LISTERS!!! > > Arkley & Kathy wrote: > > > I called the FBI and alerted them of this sale. I am horrified by this. It > > could have been my ggrandfathers GAR marker. They didn't seem very > > concerned. Thanks for the alert. Grave robbing and destruction is awful. > > We need to nip this in the bud! > > Kathy Busby > > > > The illusion that we are separate from one another is an optical delusion > > of our consciousness. -Albert Einstein > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Carolyn Feroben [mailto:funfifty@pacbell.net] > > Sent: Monday, May 03, 1999 11:30 AM > > To: NORCAL-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: Stolen Tombstones for Sale? Maybe > > > > This is a message that just came accross CAROOTS: > > > > > > For those of you who appreciate old cemeteries, this > > > is something that may be of concern. I saw this on > > > another mailing list and thought I would pass it > > > around. > > > > > > E-bay has several on-line auctions going on currently > > > of Tombstone makers. Now, where the sellers obtained > > > these is not always clear, but if the word got out > > > that Civil War era tombstones had value, I can name > > > numerous Los Angeles area cemeteries that would be > > > heavily impacted. > > > > > > At Evergreeen Cemetery in L.A. I saw many "GAR" > > > markers identical to the one's listed below. > > > > > > I am going to send an E-mail to E-Bay telling them > > > that I think this is an inappropriate item to sell. > > > > > > > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=95765135 > > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=95765620 > > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=96301772 > > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=98328212 > > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=96742252 > > > > > > > Carolyn ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - ------------------------------ --part1_a2d75cd6.2462348f_boundary-- ==== DOBBINS Mailing List ==== If you have confirmed information from primary source documents, please indicate that when you post! --part1_fb0f12c1.246244ad_boundary--

My 2nd and 3rd ggfs, Oliver Perry Tifft and George Tefft, died in Coles Co. in 1861 and 1851, respectively. Their probate files contained quite a few names of people who either had claims against the estate or bought items at the estate sale. I thought it might be useful to list the names in case anyone is looking for these folks. Needless to say, some of the writing is difficult to decipher. I will do a few at a time as time allows. I would appreciate a reply if anyone knows who these people are. >From Perry Tifft's Estate file: James McCrory, Clerk, c.c.c. Levi P. Temlin (Temblin?), J.P. Lewis R. Hutchinson Benj. M. Hutchinson Elisha W. Huntington Wm. L. Clark Thomas Jenkins Cornelius Pratt James Taylor Milo Mitchell John Moore Johnathan Brewer Jacob Emerine (?) James Combs. Jas. B. Spence, Clerk S. H. McIlhinney, Auctioneer D. S. Spence Samuel Vanmeter L.L. Silverthorn Kathleen Cooper kathleencooper@bigfoot.com