Dear Olivia Thank you so very much for the data on the Berndsens. Could you please answer another question. Do you know who are the parents of Mary Winter, wife of Herman H. Berndsen, who married April 30, 1878 in Damiansville, IL. ?? Conrad's mother, Elizabeth Winter born 1894, is the oldest daughter of John Henry Winter and Gertrude Leonard. They must be related, but I stay confused. Could you please enlighten me on Mary Winter?? Thank you again for sharing your previous data on this family. Evelyn