Bob, In your request for help George L. Frazier & his wife Amanda. You made the following statement. "The county records shows she was buried in Trenton, Il. however the cemetery records do not confirm. Believe he came to Il. after 1865." If you are stating that the written cemetery records do not record her burial that is one thing. If you are stating that you have check a cemetery survey that is another point. However, these surveys are usually done by checking only the tombstones. NOT all burials have tombstones. It is estimated that only about 60% of all burials in any given cemetery have tombstones. Tombstones cost big dollars and not all families can afford them. You are looking for a person who was buried in 1904. Let's assume that a tombstone would have cost $10 in 1904 this would equate to something over $130 in 2004 dollars The two largest cemeteries here in St. Louis have whole sections were tombstones were removed and destroyed several years ago. Several years back tombstones were removed from St. Peter's UCC Cemetery because of non-payment of Perpetual Care, this was the same story at Calvary, Sts. Peter & Paul and Bellefontaine. Cemetery surveys are great in many cases but they are not the final answer. Even if you find the tombstone be very skeptical when it comes to believing what is engraved on it. Ask your self a few questions: 1. What is the condition of the stone, is it old and weathered or is it new? 2. Are the dates verifiable by master records? Always use the data from records closest to the event, i.e. the birth date on the marriage certificate is closer to the birth date than the death certificate or tombstone. I have records on at least one of my ancestors that has three different birth dates, one for each of these (Records). Even printed records or frequently incorrect. There are several cases in point. A few years back the Cemetery Records for St. Boniface Cem. were printed and they were full of errors (this cemetery has been resurveyed, thank goodness), but the old survey is still out there for the unsuspecting researcher. I paid for information that the person interpreted for me, she wouldn't let me even look at the record for myself. New Baden City Cemetery also was carried on the web as being surveyed, trouble is what was there was actually 3 different cemeteries. This situation has now been corrected. But I believe the old survey is still on line. Bill Surnames of Interest: BUCHHOLZ anywhere -BECKMANN-CASSIDY-DeL0NJAY-DREES-MOSBACHER-NENTWIG-NEUTZLER-PONCOT-RENSIN G-STAUDER-STIEFFERMANN ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!