Dottie, Unfortunately, I do not believe the two families are related. I have not been able to connect them. However, if I can in the future I will let you know. Raecel ----- Original Message ---- From: Dottie Austin <austin27@earthlink.net> To: ilclinto@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 11:43:11 PM Subject: Re: [ILCLINTO] TAYLOR, Rita B (TIMMERMANN); 62; Belleville IL; CarlyleUB; 2004-5-19; fch In 1850 census of Clinton Co., IL the farms of a TAYLOR seem to be adjoining or at least very near to that of a WHITE.  In 1852 Phebe White married Benjamin TAYLOR.  Children were John,1855; Mary 1857; Sidney 1859 and Joseph 1860. I realize that Rita Taylor was "by marriage" a Taylor but there are a number of survivors.  Is it possible that these Taylors could be kin to me and would be able to tell me more about that time in Clinton history? I am Dottie Austin in NC and descended from a brother of Phebe WHITE. -----Original Message----- From: ilclinto-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ilclinto-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Raecel Gibson Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 1:19 PM To: ilclinto@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ILCLINTO] TAYLOR, Rita B (TIMMERMANN); 62; Belleville IL;CarlyleUB; 2004-5-19; fch Thanks ----- Original Message ---- From: Frankie Heinzmann <frankieheinzmann@satx.rr.com> To: Clinton County Rootsweb <ILCLINTO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 1:42:47 PM Subject: [ILCLINTO] TAYLOR, Rita B (TIMMERMANN); 62; Belleville IL; CarlyleUB; 2004-5-19; fch Union Banner, Carlyle, IL, May 19, 2004, Page 2a/Col 2-3 Rita B. Taylor, 62 Rita B. Taylor, 62, of Breese died Wednesday, May 12th, 2004, at St. Elizabeth's Hospital in Belleville. She was born on January 30th, 1942, in Breese, the daughter of Charles and Bertha Niemann Timmermann, and they preceded her in death. On September 3rd, 1962, at St. Dominic Church in Breese, she married James Taylor, and he survives. Also surviving are two sons, Rick Taylor of Breese and Michael Taylor of Sullivan; three daughters, Marcia Taylor and Debra Dumstorff, both of Breese, and Christina Toennies of Germantown; seven grandchildren; and five brothers, Ralph and Donald Timmermann, both of Breese, Tom Timmermann of Pinckney, Mich., Charles Timmermann of Waxahachie, Texas, and Richard Timmermann of Pittsboro, Ind. In addition to her parents, she was preceded in death by a grandson and a sister, Mary Ann Kuhl. Mrs. Taylor was a bookkeeper with the Clinton County Farm Bureau in Breese. She was a member of St. Dominic Catholic Church and Altar Sodality in Breese and the Breese Zoning Board of Appeals. A funeral mass was celebrated on Saturday, May 15th, at 10 a.m. at St. Dominic Catholic Church in Breese, with Fr. Patrick Peter officiating. Interment was in St. Dominic-St. Augustine Cemetery in Breese. Visitation was at Moss Funeral Home in Breese. This information, is for research purposes only, and is not to be posted or diffused on any website or by email without the specific permission of the newspaper, except for research purposes. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILCLINTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILCLINTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILCLINTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If the Clinton Co moderators want them, I'll make them available. In the mean time, I do have the new ones on my website at: http://www.heinzmannf.com/obituaries/index.asp Frankie ========================= Researching HEINZMANN, CHERRY, WEDEKEMPER, SARGENT (Southern Illinois), REICHART, WOOD (Central Illinois) Family Scrapbook at http://www.heinzmannf.com -----Original Message----- From: ilclinto-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ilclinto-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Frank B. Klostermann Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 8:29 PM To: ilclinto@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ILCLINTO] FW: CarlyleUB; 2000 Frankie, Will you be putting all of the Obituaries on the Index you cite? Frank Klostermann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frankie Heinzmann" <frankieheinzmann@satx.rr.com> To: <ilclinto@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 11:56 AM Subject: Re: [ILCLINTO] FW: CarlyleUB; 2000 > See http://www.heinzmannf.com/temp/clinton.ilgenweb.net/obituary/index.htm > > -----Original Message----- > From: ilclinto-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ilclinto-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Jerryblay@aol.com > Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 11:14 AM > To: ilclinto@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ILCLINTO] FW: CarlyleUB; 2000 > > > > > Please send me the following obit. Thanks. > > In a message dated 5/8/2008 12:23:30 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > frankieheinzmann@satx.rr.com writes: > > HUELSMANN, Edward A; 87; Highland IL; CarlyleUB; 2000-10-25; fch > > > > > > > > **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with > Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. > (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4&?NCID=aolfod00030000000002) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILCLINTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILCLINTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILCLINTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Frankie, Will you be putting all of the Obituaries on the Index you cite? Frank Klostermann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frankie Heinzmann" <frankieheinzmann@satx.rr.com> To: <ilclinto@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 11:56 AM Subject: Re: [ILCLINTO] FW: CarlyleUB; 2000 > See http://www.heinzmannf.com/temp/clinton.ilgenweb.net/obituary/index.htm > > -----Original Message----- > From: ilclinto-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ilclinto-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Jerryblay@aol.com > Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 11:14 AM > To: ilclinto@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ILCLINTO] FW: CarlyleUB; 2000 > > > > > Please send me the following obit. Thanks. > > In a message dated 5/8/2008 12:23:30 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > frankieheinzmann@satx.rr.com writes: > > HUELSMANN, Edward A; 87; Highland IL; CarlyleUB; 2000-10-25; fch > > > > > > > > **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with > Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. > (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4&?NCID=aolfod00030000000002) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILCLINTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILCLINTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

GEBKE, Leonard O; 49; Belleville IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-2-19; fch BECKMANN, Frank J; 80; Breese IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-2-19; fch NETTEMEIER, Otto V; 84; Breese IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-2-19; fch HAAR, Cyril J "Cy"; 71; Scott Air Force Base IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-2-19; fch LAGER, Clete B; 75; Belleville IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-2-19; fch ENNEN, John H; 81; Greenville IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-2-19; fch TOENNIES, Bernard F "Beans"; 52; Bartelso IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-2-19; fch HARVEY, Ray Jr; 79; Carlyle IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-2-26; fch RHODES, V W "Dusty"; 56; Klamath Fall OR>Rochester MN; CarlyleUB (IL); 2003-2-26; fch VonHATTEN, Gladys J (FISHER); 76; Breese IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-2-26; fch STRIEKER, Anthony J "Bud"; 75; Breese IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-2-26; fch NEWKIRK, Darlene (BIRD); 74; Phillipsburg MO>Carlyle IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-2-26; fch WILTON, Olive Linda (STEGGALL); 82; Bedford ENG>Breese IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-3-5; fch HILL, James D; 72; Keyesport IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-3-5; fch GINZEL, Anna Marie miss; 100; Aviston IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-3-5; fch SCHRAGE, Alama A (GOESTENKORS); 97; Carlyle IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-3-5; fch KOOPMANN, Frances C (VAREL); 95; Breese IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-3-5; fch FISCHER, Alvina Emilie (KRAEMER); 94; Ashley ND>Carlyle IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-3-5; fch SCHULTE, Don W; 66; Breese IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-3-12; fch RATERMANN, Clara Winnifred "Winnie" (VACHERESSE) [BONVIE]; 77; Stellarton NS/CAN>Breese IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-3-12; fch ROBKE, Harvey Edward; 60; Manassas VA; CarlyleUB (IL); 2003-3-12; fch LUEBBERS, Vincent C "Vince"; 84; Carlyle IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-3-12; fch THOELE, Annie J (FRERKER); 89; New Baden IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-3-12; fch SANTEL, Joseph L; 22; Belleville IL>St Louis MO; CarlyleUB (IL); 2003-3-12; fch LeGRAND, Alban Lawrence; 77; Benton MO>Breese IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-3-19; fch HODAPP, Marcus H; 87; Breese IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-3-19; fch WARNECKE, John B; 87; IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-3-19; fch BLANEY, Eileen M (GROLLE); 81; Breese IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-3-19; fch WALL, Claire A (HANLEY); 90; Watertown WI; CarlyleUB (IL); 2003-3-19; fch AHLF, Ben L; 78; Breese IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-3-26; fch PINGSTERHAUS, Evelyn K (KORTE); 80; Highland IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-3-26; fch HUMPHREY, Kenny J Jr; 52; Breese IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-3-26; fch SPIHLMANN, Leo P; 86; Germantown IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-3-26; fch KORTE, Allison Marella; 0; St Louis MO>Damiansville IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-3-26; fch PARTAIN, Anna L (JOHNSON); 75; Belleville IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-3-26; fch

Please send me the following obits. Thanks. In a message dated 5/15/2008 3:55:30 P.M. Central Daylight Time, frankieheinzmann@satx.rr.com writes: LITTEKEN, Leonard; 77; Aviston IL; CarlyleUB; 2006-1-11; fch HUELS, Helen E (HOLTGRAVE); 82; Breese IL; CarlyleUB; 2006-1-11; fch SZCZEBLEWSKI, Stacy Ann (NETEMEYER); 25; Breese IL>Fairbanks AK; CarlyleUB (IL); 2006-1-11; fch KNEBEL, Jesse Fred; 77; Pierron IL; CarlyleUB; 2006-1-11; fch HENRICHS, Anna M (KRUEP); 94; Aviston IL; CarlyleUB; 2006-1-25; fch KLEBER, Marie J (HARNETIAUX); 65; Carlyle IL; CarlyleUB; 2006-6-7; fch **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4&?NCID=aolfod00030000000002)

Please send me the following obit. Thanks. In a message dated 5/8/2008 12:23:30 P.M. Central Daylight Time, frankieheinzmann@satx.rr.com writes: HUELSMANN, Edward A; 87; Highland IL; CarlyleUB; 2000-10-25; fch **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4&?NCID=aolfod00030000000002)

See http://www.heinzmannf.com/temp/clinton.ilgenweb.net/obituary/index.htm -----Original Message----- From: ilclinto-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ilclinto-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jerryblay@aol.com Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 11:14 AM To: ilclinto@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ILCLINTO] FW: CarlyleUB; 2000 Please send me the following obit. Thanks. In a message dated 5/8/2008 12:23:30 P.M. Central Daylight Time, frankieheinzmann@satx.rr.com writes: HUELSMANN, Edward A; 87; Highland IL; CarlyleUB; 2000-10-25; fch **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4&?NCID=aolfod00030000000002) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILCLINTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

See http://www.heinzmannf.com/temp/clinton.ilgenweb.net/obituary/index.htm for SWOFFORD, Dovie L (STONE) -----Original Message----- From: ilclinto-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ilclinto-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jerryblay@aol.com Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 10:47 AM To: ilclinto@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ILCLINTO] FW: CarlyleUB; 1999 Aug-Dec Please send me the following obits. Thanks. In a message dated 5/6/2008 4:27:55 P.M. Central Daylight Time, frankieheinzmann@satx.rr.com writes: KLOSTERMANN, Regina C (REHKEMPER); 85; Breese IL; CarlyleUB; 1999-9-22; fch LANDOLT, Lucinda M (TIPSWORD); 85; Breese IL; CarlyleUB; 1999-9-22; fch SWOFFORD, Dovie L (STONE); 102; Vandalia IL>St Louis MO; CarlyleUB; 1999-9-22; fch BLANKENSHIP, Richard W; 78; Greenville IL; CarlyleUB; 1999-12-29; fch **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4&?NCID=aolfod00030000000002) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILCLINTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Please send me the following obit. Thanks. In a message dated 5/7/2008 12:54 P.M. Central Daylight Time, frankieheinzmann@satx.rr.com writes: NETEMEYER, Rita A (SCHUMACHER); 79; Albers IL; CarlyleUB; 2008-4-30; fch **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4&?NCID=aolfod00030000000002)

Please send me the following obits. Thanks. In a message dated 5/6/2008 4:27:55 P.M. Central Daylight Time, frankieheinzmann@satx.rr.com writes: KLOSTERMANN, Regina C (REHKEMPER); 85; Breese IL; CarlyleUB; 1999-9-22; fch LANDOLT, Lucinda M (TIPSWORD); 85; Breese IL; CarlyleUB; 1999-9-22; fch SWOFFORD, Dovie L (STONE); 102; Vandalia IL>St Louis MO; CarlyleUB; 1999-9-22; fch BLANKENSHIP, Richard W; 78; Greenville IL; CarlyleUB; 1999-12-29; fch **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4&?NCID=aolfod00030000000002)

Please send me the following obits. Thanks. In a message dated 5/5/2008 2:59:45 P.M. Central Daylight Time, frankieheinzmann@satx.rr.com writes: HOLENKAMP, Richard E Sr "Sonny"; 65; Centralia IL; CarlyleUB; 1999-5-12; fch RADOSH, Dorothy J (FELDMANN); 76; Beckemeyer IL>Portage IN; CarlyleUB (IL); 1999-6-9; fch **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4&?NCID=aolfod00030000000002)

Please send me the following obits. Thanks. In a message dated 5/5/2008 12:21:48 A.M. Central Daylight Time, frankieheinzmann@satx.rr.com writes: RATERMANN, Ralph U; 78; Alton IL; CarlyleUB; 1999-3-3; fch > REAGAN, Clara "Pug" (STEPHENSON); 89; Breese IL; CarlyleUB; 1999-3-17; fch > LAMPE, Pauline (EILERMANN); 92; Breese IL; CarlyleUB; 1999-3-31; fch EVERSGERD, Floyd H; 85; Aviston IL; CarlyleUB; 1999-4-7; fch TIMMERMANN, Helen A (LAMMERS); 92; Breese IL; CarlyleUB; 1999-4-14; fch KOHRMANN. Edward H. "Fritz"; 79; Breese IL; CarlyleUB; 1999-4-21; fch **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4&?NCID=aolfod00030000000002)

The following are already posted on the Clinton Co site. Here is a link to a temporary index of the obits: http://www.heinzmannf.com/temp/clinton.ilgenweb.net/obituary/index.htm RATERMANN, Ralph U EVERSGERD, Floyd H TIMMERMANN, Helen A (LAMMERS) I'll post the others to the list shortly. Frankie -----Original Message----- From: ilclinto-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ilclinto-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jerryblay@aol.com Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 10:10 AM To: ilclinto@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ILCLINTO] FW: CarlyleUB; 1999 Mar-Apr Please send me the following obits. Thanks. In a message dated 5/5/2008 12:21:48 A.M. Central Daylight Time, frankieheinzmann@satx.rr.com writes: RATERMANN, Ralph U; 78; Alton IL; CarlyleUB; 1999-3-3; fch > REAGAN, Clara "Pug" (STEPHENSON); 89; Breese IL; CarlyleUB; 1999-3-17; fch > LAMPE, Pauline (EILERMANN); 92; Breese IL; CarlyleUB; 1999-3-31; fch EVERSGERD, Floyd H; 85; Aviston IL; CarlyleUB; 1999-4-7; fch TIMMERMANN, Helen A (LAMMERS); 92; Breese IL; CarlyleUB; 1999-4-14; fch KOHRMANN. Edward H. "Fritz"; 79; Breese IL; CarlyleUB; 1999-4-21; fch **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4&?NCID=aolfod00030000000002) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILCLINTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

http://maps.ilgw.org/index.htm shows that Illinois was not formed until 1809, so you might check Indiana records. Just to double check, as expected, http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/archives/data_lan.html shows no land transactions in 1806 era for Edmonds. -----Original Message----- From: ilclinto-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ilclinto-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kate Rogers Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 7:00 PM To: ILCLINTO-L@rootsweb. com; Ilclinto@Rootsweb. Com Subject: [ILCLINTO] U S War Bounty Land Warrants Can someone help me? I found the U S WAR BOUNTY LAND WARRANTS on the site open for this weekend. I have a #997 that I really want to know more about also would like to know more on # 35448 and 674. What I printed for 997 just gives name and the amount of entitlement. It does not give a location. Just "to be located, agreeably to said act, on any unlocated parts of the fifty quarter townships, and the fractional quarter townships, reserved by law for original holders of military warrants." How do I find where the land that Jack B T Edmonds son of Captain Thomas Edmonds got or settled on. This 997 is dated April 1806. I will appreciate any help that anyone can send me. Peace & Prayers Kate ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILCLINTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Do you happen to know Phebe's parents or any other information? I have a some descendants from this family: Family Group Sheet ========================================================================================== Husband: Stephen H White ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Birth: 3 Nov 1847 Illinois Death: 8 Jun 1919 Burial: Nichols Cemetery, Clinton County, Illinois Marriage: 3 May 1871 Clement, Clinton County, Illinois Father: John Joseph White (1814-1889) Mother: Margaret Ann Borlen (1817-1906) ========================================================================================== Wife: Veronika A Huey ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Birth: 15 Mar 1853 Illinois Death: 16 May 1915 Burial: Nichols Cemetery, Clinton County, Illinois Father: Mother: ========================================================================================== Children ========================================================================================== 1 F Lela May White Birth: 29 Apr 1890 Illinois Death: 12 Nov 1974 Burial: Hillcrest Memorial Park, Centralia, Marion County, Ill Spouse: August Fred Curdt (1887-1954) Marriage: 19 Nov 1909 M.E. Church, Carlyle, Clinton County, Illinois ========================================================================================== Prepared 23 May 2008 by: Frankie C Heinzmann 217 Guilford Forge Universal City, TX 78148 (210) 659-4210 Heinzmann@iwon.com http://www.heinzmannf.com ========================================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ SOURCES ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 1. William Orrell, M.A., After All These Years: A History of Meridian Township from Territorial Days (221 E. Columbia, Evansville, IN 47711: Evansville Bindery, Inc., 1997), p 224, 595. 2. Clinton County Historical Society Quarterly (1091 Franklin Street, Carlyle, Illinois 62231: Clinton County Historical Society,). Mary Ellen Hughes, "Nichols Cemetery," Clinton County Historical Society Quarterly, XIX No 1 (January-March 1996), 39. 3. Ancestry.com, 1930 United States Federal Census (Provo, UT, USA: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2002), Year: 1930; Census Place: Meridian, Clinton, Illinois; Roll: 412; Page: 3A; Enumeration District: 20; Image: 919.0. Name: Gus Fredrich Curdt Home in 1930: Meridian, Clinton, Illinois Age: 42 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888 Birthplace: Illinois Relation to Head of House: Head Spouse's Name: Lela May Race: White Household Members: Name Age Gus Fredrich Curdt 42 Lela May Curdt 39 Charles W Curdt 19. 4. Clinton County Historical Society Quarterly. name. H. Gentz (Book by David E. White), "Book, Overview of Charles White and Margareta Van Culen Family," Clinton County Historical Society Quarterly, Carlyle, IL, XX No. 2 (April-June 1997), 101, 105 -----Original Message----- From: ilclinto-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ilclinto-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dottie Austin Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 11:43 PM To: ilclinto@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ILCLINTO] TAYLOR, Rita B (TIMMERMANN); 62; Belleville IL;CarlyleUB; 2004-5-19; fch In 1850 census of Clinton Co., IL the farms of a TAYLOR seem to be adjoining or at least very near to that of a WHITE. In 1852 Phebe White married Benjamin TAYLOR. Children were John,1855; Mary 1857; Sidney 1859 and Joseph 1860. I realize that Rita Taylor was "by marriage" a Taylor but there are a number of survivors. Is it possible that these Taylors could be kin to me and would be able to tell me more about that time in Clinton history? I am Dottie Austin in NC and descended from a brother of Phebe WHITE.

In 1850 census of Clinton Co., IL the farms of a TAYLOR seem to be adjoining or at least very near to that of a WHITE. In 1852 Phebe White married Benjamin TAYLOR. Children were John,1855; Mary 1857; Sidney 1859 and Joseph 1860. I realize that Rita Taylor was "by marriage" a Taylor but there are a number of survivors. Is it possible that these Taylors could be kin to me and would be able to tell me more about that time in Clinton history? I am Dottie Austin in NC and descended from a brother of Phebe WHITE. -----Original Message----- From: ilclinto-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ilclinto-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Raecel Gibson Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 1:19 PM To: ilclinto@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ILCLINTO] TAYLOR, Rita B (TIMMERMANN); 62; Belleville IL;CarlyleUB; 2004-5-19; fch Thanks ----- Original Message ---- From: Frankie Heinzmann <frankieheinzmann@satx.rr.com> To: Clinton County Rootsweb <ILCLINTO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 1:42:47 PM Subject: [ILCLINTO] TAYLOR, Rita B (TIMMERMANN); 62; Belleville IL; CarlyleUB; 2004-5-19; fch Union Banner, Carlyle, IL, May 19, 2004, Page 2a/Col 2-3 Rita B. Taylor, 62 Rita B. Taylor, 62, of Breese died Wednesday, May 12th, 2004, at St. Elizabeth's Hospital in Belleville. She was born on January 30th, 1942, in Breese, the daughter of Charles and Bertha Niemann Timmermann, and they preceded her in death. On September 3rd, 1962, at St. Dominic Church in Breese, she married James Taylor, and he survives. Also surviving are two sons, Rick Taylor of Breese and Michael Taylor of Sullivan; three daughters, Marcia Taylor and Debra Dumstorff, both of Breese, and Christina Toennies of Germantown; seven grandchildren; and five brothers, Ralph and Donald Timmermann, both of Breese, Tom Timmermann of Pinckney, Mich., Charles Timmermann of Waxahachie, Texas, and Richard Timmermann of Pittsboro, Ind. In addition to her parents, she was preceded in death by a grandson and a sister, Mary Ann Kuhl. Mrs. Taylor was a bookkeeper with the Clinton County Farm Bureau in Breese. She was a member of St. Dominic Catholic Church and Altar Sodality in Breese and the Breese Zoning Board of Appeals. A funeral mass was celebrated on Saturday, May 15th, at 10 a.m. at St. Dominic Catholic Church in Breese, with Fr. Patrick Peter officiating. Interment was in St. Dominic-St. Augustine Cemetery in Breese. Visitation was at Moss Funeral Home in Breese. This information, is for research purposes only, and is not to be posted or diffused on any website or by email without the specific permission of the newspaper, except for research purposes. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILCLINTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILCLINTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can someone help me? I found the U S WAR BOUNTY LAND WARRANTS on the site open for this weekend. I have a #997 that I really want to know more about also would like to know more on # 35448 and 674. What I printed for 997 just gives name and the amount of entitlement. It does not give a location. Just “to be located, agreeably to said act, on any unlocated parts of the fifty quarter townships, and the fractional quarter townships, reserved by law for original holders of military warrants.” How do I find where the land that Jack B T Edmonds son of Captain Thomas Edmonds got or settled on. This 997 is dated April 1806. I will appreciate any help that anyone can send me. Peace & Prayers Kate

Union Banner, Carlyle, IL, Jan 1, 2003, Page 2a/Col 3 Cecelia Haas, 88 Cecelia Haas of Albers died Tuesday, Dec. 24th, 2002, at Carlyle Healthcare Center, at the age of 88. Mrs. Haas was born in Damiansville on May 10th, 1914, to Frank and Theresa Korte Kalmer. On May 27th, 1937, in Damiansville, she married Arthur E. Haas, and he died April 22nd, 1969. Survivors include two sons, Jerry Haas of Palm Springs, Calif., and Daniel Haas of Albers; four daughters, Arlene Sandheinrich of Freeburg, Janet Huegen of Lawrenceburg, Ind., Judy Schurman of Trenton, and Kathy Dunnill of Highland; 22 grandchildren and 30 great-grandchildren; and one brother, Robert Kalmer of Damiansville. In addition to her parents and husband, she was preceded in death by one son, Ronald Haas; and two brothers, Alphonse Kalmer and Vincent Kalmer. Mrs. Haas was a homemaker and her hobby was quilting. She was a member of St. Bernard Parish and Ladies Sodality and Daughters of Isabella Circle 718. Funeral services were held on Friday Dec. 27th, at 10 a.m. at St. Bernard Church in Albers, with Rev. Leo Reinhardt officiating. Interment was in St. Bernard Cemetery. Hempen Funeral Home in Albers was in charge of arrangements. This information, is for research purposes only, and is not to be posted or diffused on any website or by email without the specific permission of the newspaper, except for research purposes.

BOUCHER, Louis J; 84; Alton IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-1-1; fch MUELLER, Hazel E "Betty" (GRAY); 93; Greenville IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-1-1; fch BROCKMAN, Olivia H (MEIER); 87; Germantown IL>Stockdale TX; CarlyleUB (IL); 2003-1-1; fch HAAS, Cecelia (KALMER); 88; Carlyle IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-1-1; fch GOESTENKORS, Albin J; 94; Ellisville MO; CarlyleUB (IL); 2003-1-1; fch SANSAGRAW, John G; 73; Potosi MO>Greenville IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-1-1; fch HIGGINS, Joann W (BITTER); 61; Breese IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-1-8; fch KAHRHOFF, Rose F (SEELHOEFER); 81; Carlyle IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-1-8; fch LURKINS, Pamela Ann (MOLLETT); 47; Highland IL>St Louis MO; CarlyleUB (IL); 2003-1-8; fch LEIBER, Joseph W; 83; Breese IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-1-8; fch SHARP, Gwendolyn Marie (THOMAS) [BAKER]; 85; Breese IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-1-8; fch PERKES, William A "Bill"; 72; Belleville IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-1-15; fch BOPP, Dorothy J miss; 74; Highland IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-1-15; fch HOSTMEYER, Ralph L; 71; Clinton Co IL>St Louis MO; CarlyleUB (IL); 2003-1-15; fch TOWBRIDGE, S Mark; 46; Breese IL>St Louis MO; CarlyleUB (IL); 2003-1-15; fch FAUKE, Wallace W; 64; Breese IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-1-22; fch GERLING, Ervin B "Gabby"; 84; Breese IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-1-22; fch REINKENSMEYER, Walter H; 85; Centralia IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-1-22; fch ROTH, Margaret L (SEEFELDT) [DEIMEKE]; 85; Trenton IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-1-22; fch MAJESKI, Elizabeth "Betty" (PETER); 82; Breese IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-1-22; fch HOLTKAMP, Robert B; 83; Aviston IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-1-29; fch HOLTKAMP, Dorothy Catherine (STRIEKER); 83; Aviston IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-1-29; fch KALMER, Ermalinda C "Linda" (LITTEKEN); 86; Aviston IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-1-29; fch AYRES, Robert; 76; Breese IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-1-29; fch POTTS, Freeda J ( ); 70; Minturn AR>Breese IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-1-29; fch THOELE, Robert H; 61; New Baden IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-1-29; fch RISINGER, Velma L (JOHNSON); 61; Kennett MO>Greenville IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-1-29; fch

Union Banner, Carlyle, IL, Dec 29, 2004, Page 2a/Col 1-2 Henry B. Schroeder, 72 Henry B. Schroeder, 72, of Germantown died Friday, Dec. 24th, 2004, at St. Joseph's Hospital in Breese. He was born Jan. 3rd, 1932, in Bartelso, the son of Henry and Caroline Eilers Schroeder, and they preceded him in death. On May 28th, 1955, at St. Boniface Catholic Church in Germantown, he married Joan Schlautmann, and she survives in Germantown. Also surviving are four sons, Lester Schroeder of St. Louis, Marvin Schroeder of Germantown, Ralph Schroeder of West Chester and Dennis Schroeder of Breese; three daughters, Linda Becker of Bartelso, Kathy Voss and Tina Mickelson, both of Breese; 12 grandchildren and two great-grandchildren; four brothers, Frank and Alvin Schroeder, both of Bartelso, Edward and Cletus Schroeder, both of Germantown; and two sisters, Alvina Heet of Plymouth, Ind., and Cornelius "Babe" Schomaker of Carlyle. He was preceded in death by three sisters, Frances Wieking, Laurentine Koczur and Adeline Schroeder. He retired from Kohnen Concrete in Germantown and Hunter Meat Packing in East St. Louis. He was an Army veteran of the Korean War. He enjoyed watching his children and grandchildren play sports and was an avid fan of all local sporting events. A funeral mass was held Tuesday, Dec. 28th, at 10 a.m. at St. Boniface Catholic Church, with Father Stephen Humphrey officiating. Burial followed in St. Boniface Cemetery. Visitation was at Moss Funeral Home in Germantown. This information, is for research purposes only, and is not to be posted or diffused on any website or by email without the specific permission of the newspaper, except for research purposes.