Union Banner, Carlyle, IL, Aug 27, 2003, Page 2a/Col 4 Msgr. Urban B. Kuhl, 84 Msgr. Urban B. Kuhl, 84, of Aviston, formerly of Belleville, died Monday, Aug. 25th, 2003, at St. Joseph's Hospital in Breese. He was born Feb. 22nd, 1919, in Aviston, the son of Henry and Louise Strake Kuhl, both of whom are deceased. Also preceding him in death were five brothers, Frank, George, Edward, Tony and Otto Kuhl; and a sister, Mary Alberternst. Survivors include three sisters, Laura Wuest of Trenton, and Josephine Molitor and Cecelia Renschen, both of Aviston. Msgr. Kuhl was the founder and pastor for 40 years of St. Augustine of Canterbury Parish, Belleville. He studied at St. Henry Seminary, Belleville, and St. Mary of the Lake Seminary in Mundelein. He was ordained by Bishop Henry Althoff for the Diocese of Belleville at St. Peter's Cathedral on Feb. 24th, 1945. His first assignment as assistant at St. Peter's Cathedral lasted until Aug. 18th, 1955, when he was named pastor of St. Augustine's. He was named Honorary Prelate, Monsignor on Feb. 25th, 1976. During the years, Msgr. has been active in diocesan and civic affairs. He served as both chaplain and dean of the Belleville Deanery; chairman of the area Interfaith Council on Ecumenism; member of the Belleville Area Clergy Association; and member of the board of Althoff Catholic High School. He served as chaplain for the Boy Scouts of America and received the St. George Medal in 1970. He also served as chaplain of the Catholic Youth Organization, the Catholic War Veterans Butz-Jobe Post 370, and the Daughters of Isabella. Msgr. Kuhl retired on July 11th, 1995. Reception of the Body will take place at 4 p.m. Friday, Aug. 29th, followed by visitation until 9 p.m. at St. Augustine of Canterbury Catholic Church in Belleville, where friends may also call from 9 to 11 a.m. Saturday, Aug. 30th. A Mass of Christian Burial will be held at the church at 11 a.m. Saturday, with Msgr. Bernard Voss, Fr. Andy Knopik, and other priests of the diocese concelebrating. Also, visitation will be held at St. Francis of Assisi Catholic Church in Aviston on Sat., Aug. 30th, from 2 to 3:30 p.m. Burial will follow at St. Francis Cemetery in Aviston. Arrangements were by George Renner & Sons Funeral Home in Belleville. This information, is for research purposes only, and is not to be posted or diffused on any website or by email without the specific permission of the newspaper, except for research purposes.

Union Banner, Carlyle, IL, Aug 27, 2003, Page 2a/Col 1-2 Robert W. Steinmann, 78 Robert W. Steinmann, 78, of Carlyle, died Wednesday, Aug. 20th, 2003, at Barnes Jewish Hospital in St. Louis, MO. He was born on May 9th, 1925, in St. Louis, Mo., the son of Joseph and Mabel Beckemeyer Steinmann. On Oct. 31st, 1945, in Lincoln, Neb., he married Evelyn Wuebbels; and she survives in Carlyle. In addition to his wife, he is survived by two sons, James J. Steinmann of Damiansville and Kenneth Steinmann of Missoula, MT; and three grandchildren. He was preceded in death by his father, Joseph Steinmann and mother and step father, Leonard and Mabel Simms. Mr. Steinmann lived in Carlyle all his life. He was a veteran of WWII, serving in England with the Eighth Air Force in the Army Air Corps. After his service, Robert worked in the Civil Engineering division at Scott Air Force Base until his retirement in 1982. After his retirement, Mr. Steinmann was a representative for Metropolitan Insurance in Carlyle and enjoyed wintering in the Rio Grande Valley. Robert was a member of St. Mary's Church in Carlyle. A Mass of Resurrection was celebrated on Monday. Aug. 25th. at 10 a.m. at St. Mary's Church in Carlyle, with Fr. George Mauck officiating. Interment followed with military honors at St. Mary's Cemetery. Visitation was at Zieren Day Funeral Home in Carlyle. This information, is for research purposes only, and is not to be posted or diffused on any website or by email without the specific permission of the newspaper, except for research purposes.

Frankie, Leora Varel (Schrage) please. My father was Klostermann, and mother Schrage. Thanks, Frank Klostermann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frankie Heinzmann" <frankieheinzmann@satx.rr.com> To: <ilclinto@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [ILCLINTO] CarlyleUB; 2003 Sep thru Dec > I've already posted *MEYER, Viola A "Olie" (HOLTGRAVE) [HOLLENKAMP] to > this list. It is also available at: > > http://www.heinzmannf.com/obituaries/index.asp > > I'll get to the other requests as time permits. > > Frankie > > -----Original Message----- > From: ilclinto-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ilclinto-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Jerryblay@aol.com > Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 10:30 AM > To: ilclinto@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ILCLINTO] CarlyleUB; 2003 Sep thru Dec > > > > > Please sent me the following obits. Thanks. > > In a message dated 5/31/2008 11:23:33 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > frankieheinzmann@satx.rr.com writes: > > RESTOFF, Clarence; 76; Breese IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-9-10; fch > ETTER, Shirley A (ROBINETT) [NEWKIRK]; 66; Carlyle IL; CarlyleUB; > 2003-9-17; > fch > *MEYER, Viola A "Olie" (HOLTGRAVE) [HOLLENKAMP]; 85; Aviston IL; > CarlyleUB; > 2003-10-8; fch > VAREL, Leora H (SCHRAGE); 77; Belleville IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-11-5; fch > HARNETIAUX, David C; 57; Greenville IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-11-12; fch > WUEST, Laura J (KUHL); 91; Aviston IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-11-26; fch > WIEBLER, Paul A; 80; Breese IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-12-3; fch > > > > > > > > **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with > Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. > (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILCLINTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILCLINTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I've already posted *MEYER, Viola A "Olie" (HOLTGRAVE) [HOLLENKAMP] to this list. It is also available at: http://www.heinzmannf.com/obituaries/index.asp I'll get to the other requests as time permits. Frankie -----Original Message----- From: ilclinto-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ilclinto-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jerryblay@aol.com Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 10:30 AM To: ilclinto@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ILCLINTO] CarlyleUB; 2003 Sep thru Dec Please sent me the following obits. Thanks. In a message dated 5/31/2008 11:23:33 A.M. Central Daylight Time, frankieheinzmann@satx.rr.com writes: RESTOFF, Clarence; 76; Breese IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-9-10; fch ETTER, Shirley A (ROBINETT) [NEWKIRK]; 66; Carlyle IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-9-17; fch *MEYER, Viola A "Olie" (HOLTGRAVE) [HOLLENKAMP]; 85; Aviston IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-10-8; fch VAREL, Leora H (SCHRAGE); 77; Belleville IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-11-5; fch HARNETIAUX, David C; 57; Greenville IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-11-12; fch WUEST, Laura J (KUHL); 91; Aviston IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-11-26; fch WIEBLER, Paul A; 80; Breese IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-12-3; fch **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILCLINTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Please send me the following obits. Thanks. In a message dated 5/17/2008 8:55:05 P.M. Central Daylight Time, frankieheinzmann@satx.rr.com writes: KALMER, Dorothy L (RAKERS); 78; Damiansville IL; CarlyleUB; 2004-2-4; fch WILKEN, Charles A "Charlie"; 61; Bartelso IL>St Louis MO; CarlyleUB (IL); 2004-3-3; fch GEBKE, Bernard I "Big"; 75; Carlyle IL; CarlyleUB; 2004-3-10; fch MENKHAUS, Veronica K (KORTE); 90; Breese IL; CarlyleUB; 2004-3-24; fch OZELLA, John V; 86; Breese IL; CarlyleUB; 2004-3-24; fch **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002)

Please send me the following obits. Thanks. In a message dated 5/17/2008 4:48:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time, frankieheinzmann@satx.rr.com writes: HEMPEN, Mildred Virginia (WICKER); 85; Bungay IL>Cape Girardeau MO; CarlyleUB (IL); 2004-1-14; fch SCHRAGE, Celia E (HOH); 95; Carlyle IL; CarlyleUB; 2004-1-14; fch **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002)

Please sent me the following obits. Thanks. In a message dated 5/31/2008 11:23:33 A.M. Central Daylight Time, frankieheinzmann@satx.rr.com writes: RESTOFF, Clarence; 76; Breese IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-9-10; fch ETTER, Shirley A (ROBINETT) [NEWKIRK]; 66; Carlyle IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-9-17; fch MEYER, Viola A "Olie" (HOLTGRAVE) [HOLLENKAMP]; 85; Aviston IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-10-8; fch VAREL, Leora H (SCHRAGE); 77; Belleville IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-11-5; fch HARNETIAUX, David C; 57; Greenville IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-11-12; fch WUEST, Laura J (KUHL); 91; Aviston IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-11-26; fch WIEBLER, Paul A; 80; Breese IL; CarlyleUB; 2003-12-3; fch **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002)

My great-great grandfather Johann Ernst Peter RASCHE (Ernst RASCH) is buried there at the Sohn farm. His daughter, Luise E. RASCH, was married to George SOHN and they are both buried there. I too feel saddened at the lost of all the small family buriel plots. I would give most anything if I could find the place that he buried his wife, Luise KUEHNE RASH. Here is part of their story written by my great Aunt Esther KROST THOMAS. Her grandson John David BUCKINGHAM was kind enough to share it with me. Ernst RASCH was the Father of seven children before he left Germany and three more children were born to the couple following their &shy;coming to America. Feeding and clothing the children kept the parents busy. Both parents were hardworking, frugal and industrious. Their health was good and Grandfather not only kept the children’s shoes in repair, but also tanned the leather out of which he made new shoes for the entire family. Their furniture was home made. They lived in a cabin, which compared favorably with the homes of their neighbors. While the majority of early residents were without means, poverty carried with it no crushing sense of degradation, like that felt by the very poor of our day. Clinton county was sparsely settled at that time, and their nearest neighbor’s may have been two or three miles away. But neighbors were indeed neighbors. They were friendly and sociable and gave help cheerfully. There was free‑hearted hospitality and if a weary traveler came by he was given food and lodging without money and without price. So also when any special work was to be done the neighbors would gather together and enjoy doing it. In sickness they needed to depend upon each others for even in the mid 19th century there were few doctors and those that there were often could not be reached, nor could they travel the unimproved roads. But now that his two older sons had reached the age where they could help with the farm work Grandfather hopefully looked forward to better days. Crops had been good for several years, and he felt the time was near when they could buy a good farm and by industry and frugality soon find that it is theirs and debt free. Again it was October, about eight years after their arrival from Germany. Word had come to their cabin home that a neighbor lady, the Mother of a number of small children was ill, bedfast. Could Grandmother come and help the family. Among those sympathetic, kind and obliging people there could be but one answer. Grandmother walked through the forest and fields a distance of over three miles to help care for the sick neighbor and her large family. This continued for possibly a week; she went to the neighbors home in the early morning and came home at dark or just before, following which she would do as much of her own house work as possible. One evening as she was returning home a cold, hard rain was falling. She was overly tired and also became thoroughly drenched and chilled. Her family did all possible for her, but that night she became ill with chills and fever. What was thought to be pneumonia followed and within about thirty‑six hours she was gone, dying Oct. 7, 1860. This was the blow which caused Grandfather to stagger for many years, in fact he never fully recovered. He was a stranger in a strange country, and a strange language. He was away from all of his relatives, a widower for the second time, left with nine children ranging in age from one year two months and 18 days to seventeen years one month and twenty‑eight days. Has oldest child, a daughter Luise, by his first marriage was already married, but living close by and the mother of three children, two living, one dead. Word spread among the neighbors that Grandmother had passed away. There were no morticians or funeral directors in those days and the Rasch family lived too far from an established cemetery to use it, because of distance and no roads. Since this large family was living in a one‑room cabin with a loft, something needed to be done, and done immediately. Neighbors came with saws and axes and under Grandfather’s supervision they went to the near by woods, selected a large walnut? (or was it Oak? think it was walnut) tree and after cutting it down , they cut off the proper length. They sawed a slab off the top, then with the help of an adze and perhaps other tools with Grandfather’s help they hollowed out the inside of’ the log, following which they laid Grandmother’s body into the cavity, nailed the slab on and buried her near a large oak? tree not far from the cabin. Such burials were not rare in those days. Regina In a message dated 6/5/2008 4:51:30 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, philentrekin@yahoo.com writes: I have great respect for the Sohn family and the way they have cared for that cemetery even though they did not know any of the people buried there. The second cemetery is a disaster area as someone plowed up the graves in the course of their farming. The lack of human respect for the deceased is an unconscionable act to me and it was deliberate. Some of the headstones were destroyed but some are still readable. Some other info I just remembered I have - a Helen Strotheidt (now deceased) had done a survey of that cemetery before it was destroyed in the 1960s. I do not know if the local historical society has that info or not. I do not have a copy of it. Phil **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002)

Phil: There are two Beaver Creek Baptist Cemeteries online (one is now called the Yingst) and the Godell Cemetery, sounds like the one you're speaking of. http://clinton.ilgenweb.net/cemetery/wheatfield/index.htm -----Original Message----- From: ilclinto-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ilclinto-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Phil Entrekin Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 5:51 PM To: ilclinto@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ILCLINTO] Beaver Creek Baptist Cemetery I have great respect for the Sohn family and the way they have cared for that cemetery even though they did not know any of the people buried there. The second cemetery is a disaster area as someone plowed up the graves in the course of their farming. The lack of human respect for the deceased is an unconscionable act to me and it was deliberate. Some of the headstones were destroyed but some are still readable. Some other info I just remembered I have - a Helen Strotheidt (now deceased) had done a survey of that cemetery before it was destroyed in the 1960s. I do not know if the local historical society has that info or not. I do not have a copy of it. Phil RMo9871662@aol.com wrote: Thanks so much. George Sohn is a distant relative; I went to school with his wife's son's. George's twin sister was my 6th grade teacher. I moved out of state several years ago. Regina In a message dated 6/5/2008 3:47:33 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, philentrekin@yahoo.com writes: Been years since I have been there (1997) but I have ancestors buried in both cemeteries. You need to find Emerald Rd going West off of hwy 127 going North from Carlyle. Both cemeteries will be on your left. The first one on the Sohn Farm should be easy to find as the farm was well marked. Just past the house, to the west is the cemetery with only about 10 graves and most of them are my family (Entrekin). If you continue west on Emerald Rd you will cross Beaver Creek (not far from Sohn's Farm) and take the next driveway left and up a hill. At the top of the hill is a house (you will be on private property) and the cemetery is behind the house. Doubt if you will find much as the cemetery was plowed up and most of the headstones destroyed. There are however, several headstones just laying around the area so you might find something. Phil Entrekin RMo9871662@aol.com wrote: Thanks, I appreciate your help. In a message dated 6/5/2008 2:12:14 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, dorothyf@ameritech.net writes: One way to get there is on http://clinton.ilgenweb.net/cemetery/wheatfield/beavercreek.htm Perhaps someone else can give you easier instructions. I don't see Emerald Road on http://clinton.ilgenweb.net/maps/map2006.htm (probably Road # 9 or 17) but bet you'll be able to find a more detailed map online. We're trying to find a way to get the Trenton Cemetery, with ten Rasch, online by next week. Stay tuned. -----Original Message----- From: ilclinto-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ilclinto-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of RMo9871662@aol.com Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 2:27 PM To: ilclinto@rootsweb.com Subject: [ILCLINTO] Beaver Creek Baptist Cemetery Can anyone tell me how to get to the Beaver Creek Baptist Cemetery, Wheatfield Twp., Clinton County, from Route 127 going north from the high school? It has been years since I was back there in this area. My great-great grandfather Ernst Rasch and his daughter are buried there and I would like to photograph their tombstones. I was always told he was buried on the Sohn farm. Regina **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILCLINTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILCLINTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dorothy, thanks. Yes it is definetly the Godell Cemetery. I probably never saw the Yingst Cemetery but I do recognize some of the family names buried there. phil Dorothy Falk <dorothyf@ameritech.net> wrote: Phil: There are two Beaver Creek Baptist Cemeteries online (one is now called the Yingst) and the Godell Cemetery, sounds like the one you're speaking of. http://clinton.ilgenweb.net/cemetery/wheatfield/index.htm -----Original Message----- From: ilclinto-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ilclinto-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Phil Entrekin Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 5:51 PM To: ilclinto@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ILCLINTO] Beaver Creek Baptist Cemetery I have great respect for the Sohn family and the way they have cared for that cemetery even though they did not know any of the people buried there. The second cemetery is a disaster area as someone plowed up the graves in the course of their farming. The lack of human respect for the deceased is an unconscionable act to me and it was deliberate. Some of the headstones were destroyed but some are still readable. Some other info I just remembered I have - a Helen Strotheidt (now deceased) had done a survey of that cemetery before it was destroyed in the 1960s. I do not know if the local historical society has that info or not. I do not have a copy of it. Phil RMo9871662@aol.com wrote: Thanks so much. George Sohn is a distant relative; I went to school with his wife's son's. George's twin sister was my 6th grade teacher. I moved out of state several years ago. Regina In a message dated 6/5/2008 3:47:33 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, philentrekin@yahoo.com writes: Been years since I have been there (1997) but I have ancestors buried in both cemeteries. You need to find Emerald Rd going West off of hwy 127 going North from Carlyle. Both cemeteries will be on your left. The first one on the Sohn Farm should be easy to find as the farm was well marked. Just past the house, to the west is the cemetery with only about 10 graves and most of them are my family (Entrekin). If you continue west on Emerald Rd you will cross Beaver Creek (not far from Sohn's Farm) and take the next driveway left and up a hill. At the top of the hill is a house (you will be on private property) and the cemetery is behind the house. Doubt if you will find much as the cemetery was plowed up and most of the headstones destroyed. There are however, several headstones just laying around the area so you might find something. Phil Entrekin RMo9871662@aol.com wrote: Thanks, I appreciate your help. In a message dated 6/5/2008 2:12:14 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, dorothyf@ameritech.net writes: One way to get there is on http://clinton.ilgenweb.net/cemetery/wheatfield/beavercreek.htm Perhaps someone else can give you easier instructions. I don't see Emerald Road on http://clinton.ilgenweb.net/maps/map2006.htm (probably Road # 9 or 17) but bet you'll be able to find a more detailed map online. We're trying to find a way to get the Trenton Cemetery, with ten Rasch, online by next week. Stay tuned. -----Original Message----- From: ilclinto-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ilclinto-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of RMo9871662@aol.com Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 2:27 PM To: ilclinto@rootsweb.com Subject: [ILCLINTO] Beaver Creek Baptist Cemetery Can anyone tell me how to get to the Beaver Creek Baptist Cemetery, Wheatfield Twp., Clinton County, from Route 127 going north from the high school? It has been years since I was back there in this area. My great-great grandfather Ernst Rasch and his daughter are buried there and I would like to photograph their tombstones. I was always told he was buried on the Sohn farm. Regina **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILCLINTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILCLINTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILCLINTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks so much. George Sohn is a distant relative; I went to school with his wife's son's. George's twin sister was my 6th grade teacher. I moved out of state several years ago. Regina In a message dated 6/5/2008 3:47:33 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, philentrekin@yahoo.com writes: Been years since I have been there (1997) but I have ancestors buried in both cemeteries. You need to find Emerald Rd going West off of hwy 127 going North from Carlyle. Both cemeteries will be on your left. The first one on the Sohn Farm should be easy to find as the farm was well marked. Just past the house, to the west is the cemetery with only about 10 graves and most of them are my family (Entrekin). If you continue west on Emerald Rd you will cross Beaver Creek (not far from Sohn's Farm) and take the next driveway left and up a hill. At the top of the hill is a house (you will be on private property) and the cemetery is behind the house. Doubt if you will find much as the cemetery was plowed up and most of the headstones destroyed. There are however, several headstones just laying around the area so you might find something. Phil Entrekin RMo9871662@aol.com wrote: Thanks, I appreciate your help. In a message dated 6/5/2008 2:12:14 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, dorothyf@ameritech.net writes: One way to get there is on http://clinton.ilgenweb.net/cemetery/wheatfield/beavercreek.htm Perhaps someone else can give you easier instructions. I don't see Emerald Road on http://clinton.ilgenweb.net/maps/map2006.htm (probably Road # 9 or 17) but bet you'll be able to find a more detailed map online. We're trying to find a way to get the Trenton Cemetery, with ten Rasch, online by next week. Stay tuned. -----Original Message----- From: ilclinto-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ilclinto-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of RMo9871662@aol.com Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 2:27 PM To: ilclinto@rootsweb.com Subject: [ILCLINTO] Beaver Creek Baptist Cemetery Can anyone tell me how to get to the Beaver Creek Baptist Cemetery, Wheatfield Twp., Clinton County, from Route 127 going north from the high school? It has been years since I was back there in this area. My great-great grandfather Ernst Rasch and his daughter are buried there and I would like to photograph their tombstones. I was always told he was buried on the Sohn farm. Regina **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002)

Thanks, I appreciate your help. In a message dated 6/5/2008 2:12:14 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, dorothyf@ameritech.net writes: One way to get there is on http://clinton.ilgenweb.net/cemetery/wheatfield/beavercreek.htm Perhaps someone else can give you easier instructions. I don't see Emerald Road on http://clinton.ilgenweb.net/maps/map2006.htm (probably Road # 9 or 17) but bet you'll be able to find a more detailed map online. We're trying to find a way to get the Trenton Cemetery, with ten Rasch, online by next week. Stay tuned. -----Original Message----- From: ilclinto-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ilclinto-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of RMo9871662@aol.com Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 2:27 PM To: ilclinto@rootsweb.com Subject: [ILCLINTO] Beaver Creek Baptist Cemetery Can anyone tell me how to get to the Beaver Creek Baptist Cemetery, Wheatfield Twp., Clinton County, from Route 127 going north from the high school? It has been years since I was back there in this area. My great-great grandfather Ernst Rasch and his daughter are buried there and I would like to photograph their tombstones. I was always told he was buried on the Sohn farm. Regina **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILCLINTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILCLINTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002)

I have great respect for the Sohn family and the way they have cared for that cemetery even though they did not know any of the people buried there. The second cemetery is a disaster area as someone plowed up the graves in the course of their farming. The lack of human respect for the deceased is an unconscionable act to me and it was deliberate. Some of the headstones were destroyed but some are still readable. Some other info I just remembered I have - a Helen Strotheidt (now deceased) had done a survey of that cemetery before it was destroyed in the 1960s. I do not know if the local historical society has that info or not. I do not have a copy of it. Phil RMo9871662@aol.com wrote: Thanks so much. George Sohn is a distant relative; I went to school with his wife's son's. George's twin sister was my 6th grade teacher. I moved out of state several years ago. Regina In a message dated 6/5/2008 3:47:33 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, philentrekin@yahoo.com writes: Been years since I have been there (1997) but I have ancestors buried in both cemeteries. You need to find Emerald Rd going West off of hwy 127 going North from Carlyle. Both cemeteries will be on your left. The first one on the Sohn Farm should be easy to find as the farm was well marked. Just past the house, to the west is the cemetery with only about 10 graves and most of them are my family (Entrekin). If you continue west on Emerald Rd you will cross Beaver Creek (not far from Sohn's Farm) and take the next driveway left and up a hill. At the top of the hill is a house (you will be on private property) and the cemetery is behind the house. Doubt if you will find much as the cemetery was plowed up and most of the headstones destroyed. There are however, several headstones just laying around the area so you might find something. Phil Entrekin RMo9871662@aol.com wrote: Thanks, I appreciate your help. In a message dated 6/5/2008 2:12:14 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, dorothyf@ameritech.net writes: One way to get there is on http://clinton.ilgenweb.net/cemetery/wheatfield/beavercreek.htm Perhaps someone else can give you easier instructions. I don't see Emerald Road on http://clinton.ilgenweb.net/maps/map2006.htm (probably Road # 9 or 17) but bet you'll be able to find a more detailed map online. We're trying to find a way to get the Trenton Cemetery, with ten Rasch, online by next week. Stay tuned. -----Original Message----- From: ilclinto-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ilclinto-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of RMo9871662@aol.com Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 2:27 PM To: ilclinto@rootsweb.com Subject: [ILCLINTO] Beaver Creek Baptist Cemetery Can anyone tell me how to get to the Beaver Creek Baptist Cemetery, Wheatfield Twp., Clinton County, from Route 127 going north from the high school? It has been years since I was back there in this area. My great-great grandfather Ernst Rasch and his daughter are buried there and I would like to photograph their tombstones. I was always told he was buried on the Sohn farm. Regina **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILCLINTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can anyone tell me how to get to the Beaver Creek Baptist Cemetery, Wheatfield Twp., Clinton County, from Route 127 going north from the high school? It has been years since I was back there in this area. My great-great grandfather Ernst Rasch and his daughter are buried there and I would like to photograph their tombstones. I was always told he was buried on the Sohn farm. Regina **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002)

One way to get there is on http://clinton.ilgenweb.net/cemetery/wheatfield/beavercreek.htm Perhaps someone else can give you easier instructions. I don't see Emerald Road on http://clinton.ilgenweb.net/maps/map2006.htm (probably Road # 9 or 17) but bet you'll be able to find a more detailed map online. We're trying to find a way to get the Trenton Cemetery, with ten Rasch, online by next week. Stay tuned. -----Original Message----- From: ilclinto-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ilclinto-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of RMo9871662@aol.com Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 2:27 PM To: ilclinto@rootsweb.com Subject: [ILCLINTO] Beaver Creek Baptist Cemetery Can anyone tell me how to get to the Beaver Creek Baptist Cemetery, Wheatfield Twp., Clinton County, from Route 127 going north from the high school? It has been years since I was back there in this area. My great-great grandfather Ernst Rasch and his daughter are buried there and I would like to photograph their tombstones. I was always told he was buried on the Sohn farm. Regina **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILCLINTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Been years since I have been there (1997) but I have ancestors buried in both cemeteries. You need to find Emerald Rd going West off of hwy 127 going North from Carlyle. Both cemeteries will be on your left. The first one on the Sohn Farm should be easy to find as the farm was well marked. Just past the house, to the west is the cemetery with only about 10 graves and most of them are my family (Entrekin). If you continue west on Emerald Rd you will cross Beaver Creek (not far from Sohn's Farm) and take the next driveway left and up a hill. At the top of the hill is a house (you will be on private property) and the cemetery is behind the house. Doubt if you will find much as the cemetery was plowed up and most of the headstones destroyed. There are however, several headstones just laying around the area so you might find something. Phil Entrekin RMo9871662@aol.com wrote: Thanks, I appreciate your help. In a message dated 6/5/2008 2:12:14 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, dorothyf@ameritech.net writes: One way to get there is on http://clinton.ilgenweb.net/cemetery/wheatfield/beavercreek.htm Perhaps someone else can give you easier instructions. I don't see Emerald Road on http://clinton.ilgenweb.net/maps/map2006.htm (probably Road # 9 or 17) but bet you'll be able to find a more detailed map online. We're trying to find a way to get the Trenton Cemetery, with ten Rasch, online by next week. Stay tuned. -----Original Message----- From: ilclinto-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ilclinto-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of RMo9871662@aol.com Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 2:27 PM To: ilclinto@rootsweb.com Subject: [ILCLINTO] Beaver Creek Baptist Cemetery Can anyone tell me how to get to the Beaver Creek Baptist Cemetery, Wheatfield Twp., Clinton County, from Route 127 going north from the high school? It has been years since I was back there in this area. My great-great grandfather Ernst Rasch and his daughter are buried there and I would like to photograph their tombstones. I was always told he was buried on the Sohn farm. Regina **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILCLINTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILCLINTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILCLINTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I didn't realize until I was out of high school and moved away and out of state how deep my father's roots ran in Clinton County. I'm looking for the tombstones of any family I might have buried in the Trenton cemetery. My dad's mother's parents were raised in the Trenton and Summerfield area. I am looking for the Rasch and Krost families and their descendants. I have a lot of names and dates and was just hoping to photograph the stones. I know of at least 3 who I believe are buried there. There are more I am sure. Harry Benjamin THOMAS, November 14, 1885 - March 10, 1940 Esther KROST THOMAS, September 30, 1887 - January 04, 1967 Jeannette BOTHWELL RICHARDSON she died in a car accident when she was pregnant with her first child. Thanks, Regina In a message dated 6/4/2008 7:12:10 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, dorothyf@ameritech.net writes: We have some information on the Trenton Cemetery but haven't been able to get it online. If you tell us who you want, and their approximate dates of death, we'll see if we have any clues on them. -----Original Message----- From: ilclinto-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ilclinto-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of RMo9871662@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 5:27 PM To: ILCLINTO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ILCLINTO] Trenton Cemetery Is there a map or plat of the Trenton Cemetery online or maybe a caretaker I could contact? I am going back to Illinois next month and would like to see if I could find where several relatives are buried. Thanks in advance. Regina **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002)

We have some information on the Trenton Cemetery but haven't been able to get it online. If you tell us who you want, and their approximate dates of death, we'll see if we have any clues on them. -----Original Message----- From: ilclinto-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ilclinto-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of RMo9871662@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 5:27 PM To: ILCLINTO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ILCLINTO] Trenton Cemetery Is there a map or plat of the Trenton Cemetery online or maybe a caretaker I could contact? I am going back to Illinois next month and would like to see if I could find where several relatives are buried. Thanks in advance. Regina **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILCLINTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Is there a map or plat of the Trenton Cemetery online or maybe a caretaker I could contact? I am going back to Illinois next month and would like to see if I could find where several relatives are buried. Thanks in advance. Regina **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002)

Found one more obit on the back page WALKER, Jesse Sr; 57; Brownsville TN; CarlyleUB (IL); 2008-5-28; fch