Surnames: DINGWERTH HECKENKEMPER Submitter: MARYLOU LEBOEUF ([email protected]) Date: 24 Dec 2002 Looking for information on MARY ANNE DINGWERTH b: 1826 Germany d: Abt. 1851 Germantown, IL m. abt 1845 to HERMAN HECKENKEMPER b: December 06, 1815 Coesfeld, Germany d: March 10, 1875 Damiansville, IL Would appreciate any information available on Mary Anne or Herman. I have descendants, I need ancestors of these individuals. Thanks --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

This is from the List Administrator of the Schleswig-Holstein List. It is a nice collection of the houses that many of our German ancestors may have lived in. It is an English site - enjoy. I found a homepage with pictures of the Schleswig-Holstein open-air museum: http://home.t-online.de/home/wolfgang.boock/6EnglishVersion.html

Greetings, Read through your line. It may interest you to know that the name "Nepomuk" is an ancient statement of the name "John", "Johan", "Johannes". I have an explanation of the legend regarding St John being the saint that guards bridges, but it is in low German and I cannot get it translated. I found this name in my husband's family who lived in Bavaria. Maybe your family lived in Bavaria. Best wishes and Happy holidays. SharonCL ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2002 10:50 AM Subject: [ILCLINTON] Re: Family research > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ig.2ADE/7.2 > > Message Board Post: > > Hello, > > I have listings in my wife's line with many Middekes. Maybe you have some info that can help. We would be willing to share what we have so far. Her line is as follows: > > Johan Herm nee Escher Middeke, b. 1764, d. March 21, 1841 in Hertmann Germany, married to Anna Maria Adelheidis Moller, b. Oct 10, 1772 and died June 17, 1838 in Hertmann, Germany. They had a daughter Maria Margaretha Middeke, b. Aug. 14, 1798 d. July 18, 1863 in Hertmann Germany. She married Johan Nepomuk Hinkamp, b. Sep 22, 1792 and d. Oct. 2, 1868 also in Hertmann Germany. He too the Middeke name from the farm they were living on. They had a son Johan Arnold Bernard Middeke, b. Dec 2, 1821 in Germany and d. April 21, 1886 in St. Rose, Clinton Co., IL. He married Clara Leuwekamp, b. May 22, 1832 and d. March 24, 1910 in St. Rose, Clinton Co., IL. They had a daughter Margaretha Middeke, b. Feb 14, 1862 in Clinton Co., IL and d. June 26, 1917 in Beckemeyer, Clinton Co., IL. She married Theodore Detmer, thus my wifes paternal line towards Gail (Detmer) Jones, my wife. Her mother still lives in Clinton County and we visit often. > > If any of this looks familiar, or you have any further information to add, please let me know and maybe we can get a copy or visit when we come over that way. Thanks for any help you may have! > > Patrick > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ig.2ADE/7.1.1 Message Board Post: Middeke is not a very common name, I haven't run across those names yet but if you will contact me directly I will share what information I have. [email protected]

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ig.2ADE/7.2 Message Board Post: Hello, I have listings in my wife's line with many Middekes. Maybe you have some info that can help. We would be willing to share what we have so far. Her line is as follows: Johan Herm nee Escher Middeke, b. 1764, d. March 21, 1841 in Hertmann Germany, married to Anna Maria Adelheidis Moller, b. Oct 10, 1772 and died June 17, 1838 in Hertmann, Germany. They had a daughter Maria Margaretha Middeke, b. Aug. 14, 1798 d. July 18, 1863 in Hertmann Germany. She married Johan Nepomuk Hinkamp, b. Sep 22, 1792 and d. Oct. 2, 1868 also in Hertmann Germany. He too the Middeke name from the farm they were living on. They had a son Johan Arnold Bernard Middeke, b. Dec 2, 1821 in Germany and d. April 21, 1886 in St. Rose, Clinton Co., IL. He married Clara Leuwekamp, b. May 22, 1832 and d. March 24, 1910 in St. Rose, Clinton Co., IL. They had a daughter Margaretha Middeke, b. Feb 14, 1862 in Clinton Co., IL and d. June 26, 1917 in Beckemeyer, Clinton Co., IL. She married Theodore Detmer, thus my wifes paternal line towards Gail (Detmer) Jones, my wife. Her mother still lives in Clinton County and we visit often. If any of this looks familiar, or you have any further information to add, please let me know and maybe we can get a copy or visit when we come over that way. Thanks for any help you may have! Patrick

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Middeke Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ig.2ADE/7.1 Message Board Post: My mother is Sabine Middeke who was born in germany, now living in england. She has 2 brothers names Ralph and the other Detleff (or sounds like) I am allso trying to find out my familt tree on the Middike side so if this information is usfull maybee we could share more?

What about a cemetery in Mt Vernon, Illinois? Lana ----- Original Message ----- From: Judith Murray <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 3:23 PM Subject: Re: [ILCLINTON] Cario > I know this is way off-base, but my uncle was in a TB Sanitorium in Mt Vernon, MO in > the 1930's. (Just a thought.) > > Judy Murray > > [email protected] wrote: > > > Does anyone know if there was a TB Sanitarium in Cairo, IL in 1929. My aunt > > died in 1929 and I'm trying to find info on her. According to a letter I have > > she was buried in a Mt. Vernon Cemetery. Contacted the one in Chicago, but > > no luck. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Joe Trainer > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Does anyone know if there was a TB Sanitarium in Cairo, IL in 1929. My aunt died in 1929 and I'm trying to find info on her. According to a letter I have she was buried in a Mt. Vernon Cemetery. Contacted the one in Chicago, but no luck. Thanks, Joe Trainer

I know this is way off-base, but my uncle was in a TB Sanitorium in Mt Vernon, MO in the 1930's. (Just a thought.) Judy Murray [email protected] wrote: > Does anyone know if there was a TB Sanitarium in Cairo, IL in 1929. My aunt > died in 1929 and I'm trying to find info on her. According to a letter I have > she was buried in a Mt. Vernon Cemetery. Contacted the one in Chicago, but > no luck. > > Thanks, > > Joe Trainer > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Just have to add another thought about name spellings. I have one surname HILTIBIDAL that I have over 50, yes 50, variations in my data. So I have them ALL written where I can get to them easily, with the various Soundex codes, so if I am really on a tear I won't overlook anything! Isn't it fun!!!! Carolyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Ratermann" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 10:22 AM Subject: Re: [ILCLINTON] Misspelled names > I'll Keep that in mind, thanks > > John > > > >From another list. Fun to read. > > > > ================= > > > > Not mispelled - just spelled differently. It is hard for those of us in > > the 20th century education to understand that before the social security > > system (1930's) and driver's license (1920's) people did not have an > > attachment to the spelling of a name. The name was spelled however the > > person writing down wanted to spell it. In fact it was a sign of an > > educated person to be able to spell a name several ways and you will find > > this in some deeds where there may be 5 or 6 different spellings in the > same > > document. In one class I went to a lecturer had a deed the spelled the > > man's name 11 different ways. > > > > It was said, reportedly by an early President, that "I would not trust a > > lawyer who could spell a name only one way." This was because if he was > not > > educated enough to spell a name several ways, he was probably not a very > > good lawyer. > > > > SO don't say "mispelled" as that implies a mistake, it was just "spelled > > differently". > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

I'll Keep that in mind, thanks John > >From another list. Fun to read. > > ================= > > Not mispelled - just spelled differently. It is hard for those of us in > the 20th century education to understand that before the social security > system (1930's) and driver's license (1920's) people did not have an > attachment to the spelling of a name. The name was spelled however the > person writing down wanted to spell it. In fact it was a sign of an > educated person to be able to spell a name several ways and you will find > this in some deeds where there may be 5 or 6 different spellings in the same > document. In one class I went to a lecturer had a deed the spelled the > man's name 11 different ways. > > It was said, reportedly by an early President, that "I would not trust a > lawyer who could spell a name only one way." This was because if he was not > educated enough to spell a name several ways, he was probably not a very > good lawyer. > > SO don't say "mispelled" as that implies a mistake, it was just "spelled > differently". > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

>From another list. Fun to read. ================= Not mispelled - just spelled differently. It is hard for those of us in the 20th century education to understand that before the social security system (1930's) and driver's license (1920's) people did not have an attachment to the spelling of a name. The name was spelled however the person writing down wanted to spell it. In fact it was a sign of an educated person to be able to spell a name several ways and you will find this in some deeds where there may be 5 or 6 different spellings in the same document. In one class I went to a lecturer had a deed the spelled the man's name 11 different ways. It was said, reportedly by an early President, that "I would not trust a lawyer who could spell a name only one way." This was because if he was not educated enough to spell a name several ways, he was probably not a very good lawyer. SO don't say "mispelled" as that implies a mistake, it was just "spelled differently".

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Surnames: ELLIOTT LAWS APPLE Submitter: Barbara Leon (Elliott) ([email protected]) Date: 02 Dec 2002

Surnames: TOWNSEND COLCORD FINK GULLICK NIGHSWANDER Submitter: Herb Shemwell ([email protected]) Date: 02 Dec 2002 My wife and I recently purchased a photo album from a local flea market. Inside were from 15 to 20 identified photos - some marked with a photographers studio of Carlyle, IL. The photos are from the 1890-1915 era and involve the family names of Townsend, Colcord, Fink, Gullick and Nighswander. Anyone researching these names I'm sure would be interested. Please contact us.

Do any of Joe's names ring bells for anyone? Trainer, Jacobsmeier, Bohn, Witmer, Wehkamp, Schonhoff, Berkamp, Reike. ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 9:55 AM Subject: Trainer & Jacobsmeier Dorothy, I think George Jacobsmeier was my ggrandmothers brother. No proof, only a gut feeling. She is mentioned in his will as Elizabeth Troener in Phillips County Arkansas. Also mentioned are the following: Anna Jacobsmeier Aviston, Clinton County, Illinois Theresia Bohn St. Louis MO Elizabeth Troener Helena, Phillips County, Arkansas Henry Witmer Piqua, Woodson County, Kansas John Jacobsmeier New Orleans, LA Theresia Wehkamp Piqua, Woodson County, Kansas (Mrs. Herman Wehkamp) Margaret Schonhoff Woodson County, Kansas Mary Berkamp Sedwick County, Kansas George & Henry Reike Johnson County, Illinois In his will he named Mary Jacobsmeier as his executor. His will is dated May 4, 1897, in the city of St. Rose. Maybe someone will recognize some of these names. Thanks for your help. Joe Trainer

For those of you not aware, ancestry.com now has the 1930 Census Index for Illinois online. This is a subscription (paid) service. Laura

Surnames: MARSCHECK WITTMER WEHKAMP KRUSE Submitter: Mary I Bergkamp ([email protected]) Date: 28 Nov 2002

In a message dated 11/27/02 11:31:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > I would love the other > listings that you have Hope you had a great trip! Here are the other listings: Bernd, in IL 21 years, born Germany, died 22 Jul 1881 at age 55-5-0 in Germantown of phthisis, buried Germantown 23 Jul 1881 Helene, in IL 3 years, born Germantown, died 20 Jun 181 at age 75-3-5 in Germantown of asthma, buried Germantown 22 Jun Frank J, born Germantown, died 8 Dec at age 1-9-3 in Germantown of atrpshia, buried Germantown 10 Dec, reported 28 Dec 1882 Hope these are "yours"! Laura

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ig.2ADE/67 Message Board Post: I am looking for information about August Jansen of Breese and his siblings. His fathers name was Cornelius Janssen