Am looking for Klingelsmith/Klingelschmidt/ Cl. . . ./Gl . . . . Could be Klingensmith in DuQuoin or Pinckneyville, Germantown, IL. Mary Angelina/Angeline Klingelsmith married Charles Rick abt 1893 Maurito Klingelsmith in IL abt 1894 Any help would be appreciated. Thank you

This is an interesting example where school kids are involved in preserving the past. <http://firstmonday.org/issues/issue8_1/garner/#g1>

Found this query on a different web page from 7 months ago. Dorothy Thursday 06/13/2002 4:28:18pm Name: Jim Sellers E-Mail: [email protected] Referred By: Search Engine Location: Comments: I have been attempting to locate the descendents of E.J. Netemeyer (?Ed). I've noticed several references to the name in this area, and wonder if he was from this area. He served in the US Army Air Force, maybe at the end of WWII or just later. He worked in Chico California shortly after that. I have his personal property that I would like to return to the family. Please contact me if you have any information to share. Thank You.

Surnames: RIPPERDA SPENGLER JANSEN EILERS Submitter: Tom Ripperda (ripperda) Date: 05 Jan 2003

I forgot mention that the St. Louis Library has this program available on two computers on the second floor. Word is that the printer copies of the images are poor, (I've not had this problem, but it could be the printer at the library is not high quality), but you can locate the proper info on the program, and then go downstairs to the microfilm area and make a copy directly from the microfilm. For those not in St Louis area, you might want to call a larger library near you to see if they have this program. Laura

For those who would like to access ancestry.com's subscriber databases for free, there is a program available at larger libraries that makes this possible. The program in called AncestryPlus, and when used at a subscribing library, gives you all the benefits and features of ancestry.com without charge. Databases on Ancestry include Census images for all Census years; however, not all years are indexed. The 1870, 1880, and 1900 censuses are not indexed; however the others are and most of the images are easily readable. You can print a copy of the image if your library has printing facilities. Also included in Ancestry databases are historical newspaper images, UK & Ireland records, Canadian records, Immigration records, and much more. You can access the AncestryPlus website from home at <A HREF="http://www.gale.ancestry.com/ggmain.htm"> http://www.gale.ancestry.com/ggmain.htm</A> but you will be unable to to access the subscription databases as you must to a library that has this program in order to do so. Tip from Ancestry subscriber: It's kinda hidden away, but right under the search button in the main search area is a link to "advanced search" where you can limit your search to an area, a time span, and/or a "keyword". This is especially helpful if you are looking for Johnson or Smith names and has worked much better for me than using "soundex". Anyone using this program who finds they have problems or can't figure how to print an image, feel free to contact me and I will try to assist. Happy Hunting! Laura

A new database from the State Archives: Federal Township Plat Maps 1804-1891 http://landplats.ilsos.net/Flash/FTP_Illinois.html http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/archives/data_lan.html

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ig.2ADE/60.1 Message Board Post: >From the information that I can access, it appears that Marion County was established as it presently is in 1823 and Clinton County in 1824.

The 1930 census shows that Mamie & George still live on a farm. Maybe the farm didn't get sold. I will check on the obit for you. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 9:51 AM Subject: [ILCLINTON] SENNERICH > I am trying to find some information on a Peter J. Sennerich who owned a > > farm outside of Trenton before his death in March 1920. He married in > 1900 to > a Mary Alblinger and they had a son named George who was born about 1915 > > from what I can tell. I don't have much more on them except that Peter > was in the midst of selling his farm when he died. > > Would anyone have access to any records that would give me more info on > George's birthdate (he is in the 1920 census as being 5 years old) or on > > the possible land sell? Would there be an obit available from any local > newspapers? > > Any help appreciated. > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Netwitz. Are your virus definitions up to date?] > > --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Netwitz. Are your virus definitions up to date?]

I am trying to find some information on a Peter J. Sennerich who owned a farm outside of Trenton before his death in March 1920. He married in 1900 to a Mary Alblinger and they had a son named George who was born about 1915 from what I can tell. I don't have much more on them except that Peter was in the midst of selling his farm when he died. Would anyone have access to any records that would give me more info on George's birthdate (he is in the 1920 census as being 5 years old) or on the possible land sell? Would there be an obit available from any local newspapers? Any help appreciated.

I have a Henry Huelsman born 1842 and died dec 19, 1920 buried in St. Anthony, Lively Grove, IL. married Anna Mazander. I don't believe they had children. Anna Mazander was a sister to my G-Great Grandmother Louise Mazander Budde. The Huelsmann's raised the two youngest Budde Children. If this could help, Please feel free to contact me. Tom Budde ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Holthaus" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 9:04 AM Subject: [ILCLINTON] Huelsmann > Looking for any descendants of John Herman Huelsmann b.Sept.23, 1865 d. Sept.8,1946 married Mary Lange. Children: Rose(Mensing), Bernard, Joseph, Gertrude, Henry, Leo, Mary, Elizabeth(Wobbe), Anna(Christensen)missing two children. > Linda Holthaus > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi Linda, Are you looking for only the two missing descendents, or also the descendents of those you know. I have Rose (Huelsmann) & Gerhard Mensing's descendents, if that is any help. Laura

Looking for any descendants of John Herman Huelsmann b.Sept.23, 1865 d. Sept.8,1946 married Mary Lange. Children: Rose(Mensing), Bernard, Joseph, Gertrude, Henry, Leo, Mary, Elizabeth(Wobbe), Anna(Christensen)missing two children. Linda Holthaus

Jane, I'm related to Nancy Dunn and I know her father Jesse is buried in The Godell Family Cemetery. -----Original Message----- From: Jane [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 11:16 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [ILCLINTON] Nancy Dunn William are you related to Nancy Dunn or George?? Jane ----- Original Message ----- From: "William W.Martin" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 7:23 PM Subject: RE: [ILCLINTON] Godel, Smith > Jamie, > I have a George Godell married to a Nancy M.Dunn in Clinton Co. in 3 may > 1859. I also know of the Godell Family Cemetery in Clinton Co. Sorry that's > about it. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dorothy Falk [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 8:51 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [ILCLINTON] Godel, Smith > > > Surnames: GODEL SMITH > Submitter: Jamie Gibbons ([email protected]) > Date: 27 Dec 2002 > > Nicholas Godel and his family left the port of Havre, France on March 27, > 1843 on the ship Narragansett. Here is the info on the family Nicholas > Godel: Age 36 Barbara Godel: Age 38 Jean: Age 14 Magdalena: Age 12 Georges: > Age 10 Nicolas: Age 6 Jean (Louis): Age 4 (Victor) Etienne: Age 1 After > landing in New Orleans, this family travelled to Belleville, Illinois and > are found on the 1850 census there in Clinton, Co. After the 1850 census > they seemed to disappear. I do find a Mary Godell in the 1860 census...same > co. but age of 22 and she doesn't fit with the family in 1850 or on the > passenger list because of her age. It does state that she was born in > France...perhaps a niece of Nicholas? Where did the family go? I am > searching this family as they had a dau. named Mary who was born there in > Ill. in 1845 and she married a William R. Smith from Liverpool and became my > great great grandparents. I don't know where they met or where they married. > But they do show up again in the 18! > 80 Madison Co. Illinois with 2 children, Josie and August Smith. Any help at > all would be appreciated....on any of these Godel's Jamie Gibbons > [email protected] > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > ---- > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Surnames: MOHRMANN WHEAT BENNETT ERWIN ERVIN DODSON DOTSON Submitter: K. Mohrmann ([email protected]) Date: 29 Dec 2002 Researching surname MOHRMANN. Known related lines BENNETT, COMPTON, ERWIN (ERVIN), DOTSON (DODSON), WHEAT Families in and around area by mid 1800's. Found a Joseph EMKE married Margaretha MOHRMANN on 6 Oct 1874 (may be listed in marriage book 1, p2). Would like to know if other info is listed in marriage record and if anyone has possible connection to family. Thank you. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hi, Jamie, The Illinois State marriage data base is at http://www.sos.state.il.us/departments/archives/marriage.html . First, just put in the surnames for Smith and Godell. Try it, you'll like it. Guaranteed. No additional information will be available except for the minister's name. Then for the others in the family, just put in the surname for the groom statewide, you'll see what counties Godells married in during what years. Then check the brides statewide. You'll have to query on each alternate spelling. In the 1860 census, household 375, everyone born in Europe: Godell, Nicholas, farmer, 55 Barbara, 54 John, 30, laborer Nicholas 19, laborer Louis, 18, laborer Augustus 17, laborer Mary 16 - Household 374: Godell, George, 25, farmer, Europe Nancy, 31, IL Jesse, 12, IL Sarah, 9, IL Lear 7, IL William, 4, IL Mary, 4 mo. IL Household 1752 Godell, August, 17, laborer, Fr, on Bernard Rouse, Germ, farm =========================== 1870 Clinton County IL census, Wheatfield Twp. Household 19-19 Goodell, George, 37, farmer Nancy 41 Mary 10 John 8 Martha 5 George 2 4 of Nancy (Ford) children Household 23-23 Goodel, Nicholas, 63, farmer, Fra Barbara 62, Fra John 40, works on farm, Fra Nicholas, 32, farm labor, Fra Lewis, 30, farm labor, Fra I hope other Godell and Ford researchers might contact you. We have 3 searchers online, some will be duplicate entries. First is the "Search Our Site for your Clinton County ancestors surnames". Second one is in the next sentence following the first one - "Clinton County Surname Helper" - call up the alphabet letter that you want and then call up the subshred. The 3rd one is under "Cemetery Records", I see the daughter-in-law. Remembering the condition of that cemetery, I'd bet many of both families are buried there, perhaps with wooden crosses that have disintegrated. Happy hunting, come back to me privately for further questions after you heard from others. Dorothy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy Falk" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 8:51 PM Subject: [ILCLINTON] Godel, Smith > Surnames: GODEL SMITH > Submitter: Jamie Gibbons ([email protected]) > Date: 27 Dec 2002 > > Nicholas Godel and his family left the port of Havre, France on March 27, 1843 on the ship Narragansett. Here is the info on the family Nicholas Godel: Age 36 Barbara Godel: Age 38 Jean: Age 14 Magdalena: Age 12 Georges: Age 10 Nicolas: Age 6 Jean (Louis): Age 4 (Victor) Etienne: Age 1 After landing in New Orleans, this family travelled to Belleville, Illinois and are found on the 1850 census there in Clinton, Co. After the 1850 census they seemed to disappear. I do find a Mary Godell in the 1860 census...same co. but age of 22 and she doesn't fit with the family in 1850 or on the passenger list because of her age. It does state that she was born in France...perhaps a niece of Nicholas? Where did the family go? I am searching this family as they had a dau. named Mary who was born there in Ill. in 1845 and she married a William R. Smith from Liverpool and became my great great grandparents. I don't know where they met or where they married. But they do show up again in the 18! > 80 Madison Co. Illinois with 2 children, Josie and August Smith. Any help at all would be appreciated....on any of these Godel's Jamie Gibbons [email protected] > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------

Jamie, I have a George Godell married to a Nancy M.Dunn in Clinton Co. in 3 may 1859. I also know of the Godell Family Cemetery in Clinton Co. Sorry that's about it. -----Original Message----- From: Dorothy Falk [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 8:51 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [ILCLINTON] Godel, Smith Surnames: GODEL SMITH Submitter: Jamie Gibbons ([email protected]) Date: 27 Dec 2002 Nicholas Godel and his family left the port of Havre, France on March 27, 1843 on the ship Narragansett. Here is the info on the family Nicholas Godel: Age 36 Barbara Godel: Age 38 Jean: Age 14 Magdalena: Age 12 Georges: Age 10 Nicolas: Age 6 Jean (Louis): Age 4 (Victor) Etienne: Age 1 After landing in New Orleans, this family travelled to Belleville, Illinois and are found on the 1850 census there in Clinton, Co. After the 1850 census they seemed to disappear. I do find a Mary Godell in the 1860 census...same co. but age of 22 and she doesn't fit with the family in 1850 or on the passenger list because of her age. It does state that she was born in France...perhaps a niece of Nicholas? Where did the family go? I am searching this family as they had a dau. named Mary who was born there in Ill. in 1845 and she married a William R. Smith from Liverpool and became my great great grandparents. I don't know where they met or where they married. But they do show up again in the 18! 80 Madison Co. Illinois with 2 children, Josie and August Smith. Any help at all would be appreciated....on any of these Godel's Jamie Gibbons [email protected] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

William are you related to Nancy Dunn or George?? Jane ----- Original Message ----- From: "William W.Martin" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 7:23 PM Subject: RE: [ILCLINTON] Godel, Smith > Jamie, > I have a George Godell married to a Nancy M.Dunn in Clinton Co. in 3 may > 1859. I also know of the Godell Family Cemetery in Clinton Co. Sorry that's > about it. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dorothy Falk [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 8:51 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [ILCLINTON] Godel, Smith > > > Surnames: GODEL SMITH > Submitter: Jamie Gibbons ([email protected]) > Date: 27 Dec 2002 > > Nicholas Godel and his family left the port of Havre, France on March 27, > 1843 on the ship Narragansett. Here is the info on the family Nicholas > Godel: Age 36 Barbara Godel: Age 38 Jean: Age 14 Magdalena: Age 12 Georges: > Age 10 Nicolas: Age 6 Jean (Louis): Age 4 (Victor) Etienne: Age 1 After > landing in New Orleans, this family travelled to Belleville, Illinois and > are found on the 1850 census there in Clinton, Co. After the 1850 census > they seemed to disappear. I do find a Mary Godell in the 1860 census...same > co. but age of 22 and she doesn't fit with the family in 1850 or on the > passenger list because of her age. It does state that she was born in > France...perhaps a niece of Nicholas? Where did the family go? I am > searching this family as they had a dau. named Mary who was born there in > Ill. in 1845 and she married a William R. Smith from Liverpool and became my > great great grandparents. I don't know where they met or where they married. > But they do show up again in the 18! > 80 Madison Co. Illinois with 2 children, Josie and August Smith. Any help at > all would be appreciated....on any of these Godel's Jamie Gibbons > [email protected] > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > ---- > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Surnames: GODEL SMITH Submitter: Jamie Gibbons ([email protected]) Date: 27 Dec 2002 Nicholas Godel and his family left the port of Havre, France on March 27, 1843 on the ship Narragansett. Here is the info on the family Nicholas Godel: Age 36 Barbara Godel: Age 38 Jean: Age 14 Magdalena: Age 12 Georges: Age 10 Nicolas: Age 6 Jean (Louis): Age 4 (Victor) Etienne: Age 1 After landing in New Orleans, this family travelled to Belleville, Illinois and are found on the 1850 census there in Clinton, Co. After the 1850 census they seemed to disappear. I do find a Mary Godell in the 1860 census...same co. but age of 22 and she doesn't fit with the family in 1850 or on the passenger list because of her age. It does state that she was born in France...perhaps a niece of Nicholas? Where did the family go? I am searching this family as they had a dau. named Mary who was born there in Ill. in 1845 and she married a William R. Smith from Liverpool and became my great great grandparents. I don't know where they met or where they married. But they do show up again in the 18! 80 Madison Co. Illinois with 2 children, Josie and August Smith. Any help at all would be appreciated....on any of these Godel's Jamie Gibbons [email protected] --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

FROM: http://www.catholic-forum.com/saints/saintj17.htm : JOHN NEPOMUCENE Also known as John of Nepomuk; John Wolflin; Martyr of the Confessional Memorial: 16 May Profile While a child, he was cured by the prayers of his parents; they then consecrated him to God. Priest. Great preacher who converted thousands. Vicar-general of Prague. Counselor and advocate of the poor in the court of King Wenceslaus IV. Refused several bishoprics. Confessor to the queen, and taught her to bear the cross of her ill-tempered husband the king. Imprisoned for refusing to disclose the queen's confession to the king. When he continued to honor the seal of the confessional, he was ordered executed. Symbol of Bohemian nationalism. His image has been used in art as a symbol of the sacrament of Confession, and many bridges in Europe bear his likeness as their protector. Born c..1340 as John Wolflin at Nepomuk, Bohemia. Died: burned, then tied to a wheel and thrown off a bridge into the Moldau River on 20 March 1393; on the night of his death, seven stars hovered over the placed where he drowned. Canonized in 1729. Name Meaning God is gracious ( = John) Patron: against calumnies, against indiscretions, against slander, Bohemia, bridge builders, bridges, confessors, Czech Republic, discretion, floods, good confession, running water, silence. -----Original Message----- From: SharonCL [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 2:47 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [ILCLINTON] Re: Name of Nepomuk Greetings, Read through your line. It may interest you to know that the name "Nepomuk" is an ancient statement of the name "John", "Johan", "Johannes". I have an explanation of the legend regarding St John being the saint that guards bridges, but it is in low German and I cannot get it translated. I found this name in my husband's family who lived in Bavaria. Maybe your family lived in Bavaria. Best wishes and Happy holidays. SharonCL ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2002 10:50 AM Subject: [ILCLINTON] Re: Family research > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ig.2ADE/7.2 > > Message Board Post: > > Hello, > > I have listings in my wife's line with many Middekes. Maybe you have some info that can help. We would be willing to share what we have so far. Her line is as follows: > > Johan Herm nee Escher Middeke, b. 1764, d. March 21, 1841 in Hertmann Germany, married to Anna Maria Adelheidis Moller, b. Oct 10, 1772 and died June 17, 1838 in Hertmann, Germany. They had a daughter Maria Margaretha Middeke, b. Aug. 14, 1798 d. July 18, 1863 in Hertmann Germany. She married Johan Nepomuk Hinkamp, b. Sep 22, 1792 and d. Oct. 2, 1868 also in Hertmann Germany. He too the Middeke name from the farm they were living on. They had a son Johan Arnold Bernard Middeke, b. Dec 2, 1821 in Germany and d. April 21, 1886 in St. Rose, Clinton Co., IL. He married Clara Leuwekamp, b. May 22, 1832 and d. March 24, 1910 in St. Rose, Clinton Co., IL. They had a daughter Margaretha Middeke, b. Feb 14, 1862 in Clinton Co., IL and d. June 26, 1917 in Beckemeyer, Clinton Co., IL. She married Theodore Detmer, thus my wifes paternal line towards Gail (Detmer) Jones, my wife. Her mother still lives in Clinton County and we visit often. > > If any of this looks familiar, or you have any further information to add, please let me know and maybe we can get a copy or visit when we come over that way. Thanks for any help you may have! > > Patrick