We've had Sherry's 5 pages online at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilclint2/1865/index.htm for a year or two. Bob Schroeder has transcribed another 20 pages. We're looking for volunteers to transcribe another 20 or 40 pages. Would you believe me if I said the microfilm is perfect, easy to read, and prints out just gorgeous? No, I wouldn't believe me either. We can make copies of the pages if anyone is up to a challenge. There are no locations given on the pages. Carol said she might have them online by the weekend. Dorothy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy Bower" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 6:31 PM Subject: Re: [ILCLINTON] 1865 Census > I've looked at a couple of off-year state censuses. > The information varies from state to state. The IL > census I looked at named only the head of household, > just like the federal census records before 1850. A > Kansas census had names like the federal, plus it > asked not only where the people were born, but also > where they lived before going to KS. An Iowa census > even asked what church they attended. > > These censuses are available on microfilm, but you > probably won't find many on-line. > > Nancy > > --- [email protected] wrote: > > > > > > Hi > > > > We have never seen an 1865 census before. We > > thought they were taken every > > ten years. Can you straighten me out on this? > > About when will this go > > online? > > > > > > Conrad & Evelyn Nettemeyer > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion > > online genealogy records, go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

In a message dated 2/6/03 11:58:17 AM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Barbara Hertenstein, born 18 Nov 1822, came from Germany to the United > States with her son Gustav Ludwig Hertenstein sometime between 1852 and > 1856 and settled in Looking Glass Township in Clinton County. She married > George Hurst, also from Germany, in Clinton County 7 July 1856. I believe > George had two children of his own before he married her. From there I > have lost her. Try the Illinois Statewide Marriage Index where you will find her listed as Hartenstein marrying George Hurst on 26 Jul 1856. I suggest getting creative with the spelling of these names. You might try Hirst, Herst, etc. if you haven't already. Good luck - Gloria

Surnames: PARKER Submitter: Nancy Misenheimer ([email protected]) Date: 06 Feb 2003 There is a marriage record in LDS Marriages which lists a Henry Parker to a "Mrs. Henry" Parker. Can anyone tell me where I can find this complete marriage record? I believe this Henry Parker is my own ggggrandfather who was born in 1780 N.C. and lived in Clinton co. in 1830. He was related to Elder John Parker and wondered if churches records would have this for LDS to post to their records. Thank you. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I've looked at a couple of off-year state censuses. The information varies from state to state. The IL census I looked at named only the head of household, just like the federal census records before 1850. A Kansas census had names like the federal, plus it asked not only where the people were born, but also where they lived before going to KS. An Iowa census even asked what church they attended. These censuses are available on microfilm, but you probably won't find many on-line. Nancy --- [email protected] wrote: > > > Hi > > We have never seen an 1865 census before. We > thought they were taken every > ten years. Can you straighten me out on this? > About when will this go > online? > > > Conrad & Evelyn Nettemeyer > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion > online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

In a message dated 2/6/03 3:42:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > We have never seen an 1865 census before. We thought they were taken > every > ten years. Can you straighten me out on this? Federal Censuses are taken every ten years; however, from time to time various states have authorized mid-decade State Censuses. This is what the 1865 is. Laura

Hi We have never seen an 1865 census before. We thought they were taken every ten years. Can you straighten me out on this? About when will this go online? Conrad & Evelyn Nettemeyer

Carol has loaded the original land sales online, thanks to Delores Tamoria, Nancy Bower and Charlotte Silva's inputs a long time ago. You'll find it in the box with the plat books. She has also loaded two more of Jean's 1920 census Enumeration Districts - Meridian and Lake. She has moved the 1913 Commercial History of Clinton County to a box of its own so it's easier to find. Carol still needs more volunteers to help transcribe an index to the 1930 census http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilclint2/1930census/index.htm She says more of the 1865 census will go online next.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Hertenstein, Hurst Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ig.2ADE/69 Message Board Post: Barbara Hertenstein, born 18 Nov 1822, came from Germany to the United States with her son Gustav Ludwig Hertenstein sometime between 1852 and 1856 and settled in Looking Glass Township in Clinton County. She married George Hurst, also from Germany, in Clinton County 7 July 1856. I believe George had two children of his own before he married her. From there I have lost her. I don't know if she and George divorced or stayed married. I can't find her under either name in any records after that. Can anyone help me?

A great link to all newspapers in the country... www.gebbieinc.com/dailyint Now we can read the obits almost everywhere! When asked how he was doing my grandfather had two responses: 1. I don't know yet; I haven't asked grandma. 2. I don't know yet; I have read the obits. Later in the day after having read the obits, he would say he wasn't in there so he must be okay. Gloria

There is now a Search Vehicle on line for the 1920 Census. Like the other smaller searchers, it will give you a hit based on the name appearing anywhere within that link. I queried on "Scott" and got 3 hits - two were given names and one guy was born in Scott, no surnames yet. This was correct. What a smart Searcher!

Carol has put indexes for 7 of the 29 Enumeration Districts (ED's) for our 1930 online at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilclint2/1930census/index.htm There is a separate search vehicle just for the 1930 census. If the statement about New Year's is still there, please ignore that. Carol is looking for volunteers to help transcribe the indexes for the other ED's. This is a project that can be done as easily from other locations as it can be done from here. Different ways that you can help transcribe are listed on the web page. The first volunteer for each ED will be assigned that ED. Carol's email address is on that same web page. She also added the Brookside Township and Wade Township maps to the 1913 Plat Maps and has added more biographies.

Surnames: MARSCHECK SCHILDENHAFT Submitter: Irene Bergkamp ([email protected]) Date: 01 Feb 2003

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ig.2ADE/61.1 Message Board Post: I have a Maria Carolina Sager Jacobsmeier who married a Bernard Hy Bittle on January 29, 1878 in Clinton County, Illinois. The marriage record is located in book 1, Page 1 Certificate 2. Maria was married 1st to Henry Jacobsmeier who died around 1877. My ggrandmother was a Jacobsmeier and I think Henery was one of her brothers. No proof.

Hello Susan I just read your email about Opal Dell and was wondering if she was related to Bessie Tabor. Bessie Tabor was my mom's aunt. Hope to hear from you soon. Ann Wells

I have a photograph of the tombstone of Opal Dell TABOR. The tombstone is in a cemetery in Clinton County on the southeastern edge of Carlyle Lake. It's a handmade base with a statue of an angel on top. According to the IL State Archives death records database, Opal died 04/12/1917. She was from East Fork Township in Clinton County. If anyone is interested in getting a copy of this picture, please email me at [email protected] I will gladly email you a scanned copy of this picture. Susan Carroll Kelley in IL

I found somewhere on your site where a Theresa Rhoden has tried to contact me about the Kienzle family. I have tried contacting her with no luck. My email address has not changed, it is [email protected] Would there be any way you could get us together? Diana Townsley

In a message dated 1/28/03 4:49:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > SCHMIEDER, Sabastian > Page #105 Record #1352 in IL 27 years, married, stone mason, born Germany, died 19 Apr 1883 at age 58 in Carlyle of strictrue of urethra and cystitis; buried Cath Cem Carlyle 20 Apr 1883 > > > SCHNYDER, John B. > Page #69 Record #886 Born Carlyle, died 23 Apr 1881 at age 3-6-0 in Carlyle of meningitis; buried Carlyle 24 Apr 1881 > > >

SCHMIEDER, Sabastian Page #105 Record #1352 SCHNYDER, John B. Page #69 Record #886

Thanks to all who helped with this project! You have been so much help. William W. Martin Performance Analyst TPG TeleManagement INC. (402)502-9447

Dorothy, What a great job you, Carol, and Gloria did! Thanks for all the hard work. Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy Falk" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 8:05 PM Subject: [ILCLINTON] Carlyle's St. Mary's Cemetery Listing > The combined Carlyle St. Mary's cemetery reading, death register, plat maps and St. Mary's Catholic Church burial data base are now online at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilclint2/cemetery2/index.htm Many people helped to get this data base together, the most supportive was St. Mary's Church that shared their data base with us! Besides the people acknowledged online, we thank Vince for nudging us to get started in the right direction, and to Jennifer for converting our data bases back and forth. > > This data base contains over 4,200 names. Each page might take a little extra time to load because of the size. There are plats for most sections to portray a picture of who is buried next to whom - in the older days, that meant family. The plats will take a bit of time to load, too, some of them are really wide - up to 112 graves. > > The co-located Carlyle City Cemetery listing should be online by March, 2003, which will make this just about a whole year's project. Thanks, Gloria, for that 150 mile drive once or twice a week during this whole year and those thousands of computer hours. It's been fun. > > A separate search engine has been set up just for the two Carlyle cemeteries. This will search on the name column, the maiden name column and the comments column. > > Thanks, Carol, for waving that magic wand again and getting the data base to appear online. > > Happy hunting to all Clinton County researchers from Carol, Gloria and Dorothy. > Home web page: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilclint2/ > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >