In a message dated 3/15/03 10:53:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Thanks for the information Nancy. That gives me information that I can > continue with. Phyllis and all listers, Nancy's index to the Tenefelde listings are on the Clinton County website. If you've done a lot of researching, you have no doubt come upon sites with e-mail addresses where you can write to get more info, only to do so and receive no reply. This is not the case at the Clinton County site. As we are all volunteers, you might have to wait a day or two for a response, but you WILL get an answer. If there is an index listed on the site, there is a volunteer who gets a kick out of helping you find YOUR people. We can't guarantee we can help you, but we can tell you what we have in files we've not been able to put online at this time. So if a link says it's an INDEX and that INDEX has a link to an e-mail addy for more info, send an e-mail. If you get a return notice, don't worry. My e-mail address hasn't changed in 10 years, and as all the volunteers are in contact on a semi-regular basis, I can get your request to the proper volunteer. By the way! In the subject line (if it is not sent via the list) make SURE you put something to clearly identify your e-mail as a request for information from Clinton Co: Surname. Otherwise, I might think it's porno spam and immediately send it to the trash bin. Laura [email protected]

Thanks for the information Nancy. That gives me information that I can continue with. Phyllis (Kues) Stroud

Phyllis, In Walter Tenfelde's book "Auswanderungen und Auswanderer aue dem ehemaligen Kreise Lingen nach Nordamerika", it lists Gerhard Kues. Here is the information. Kues, Johann Gerhard b. 6/12/1851, Holthausen parents: Johann Gerhard Kues and Euphenia Margaretha Kotte Nancy Moss Researching Bönhoff, Clement, Geers, Haverland, Heyer, Hillen, Moss, Revermann, Schulte, Varel, Werth, and more ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 7:50 AM Subject: [ILCLINTON] Researching Kues and Venhaus > Hi, > > I am wondering if anyone else is researching the families that I am. I am > looking for any information on Henry Venhaus (b. Germany and d. Aviston, IL > 1894) and his wife Christine (Jansen) Venhaus (b. 11/1/1846 and d. 1/25/1936) > and also Gerhard Kues (b. 6/12/1851 Lingen, Germany and d. 9/9/1931 Aviston, > IL and his wife Wilhelmina (Toeben-otke) Kues (b. 1/21/1859 Hanover, Germany > and d. 4/23/1944 Aviston, IL). I would appreciate any information that > someone can give me concerning them or their families. Thank you. > > Phyllis (Kues) Stroud > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Leisa's email is [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy Falk" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 10:53 AM Subject: [ILCLINTON] Just - surname > Name: Leisa (Homepage) > Country: USA Date: Sat Mar 15 06:11:33 2003 > Comment: Searching any information on the "Just" surname and family. Clinton Co. & Marion Co. > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Name: Leisa (Homepage) Country: USA Date: Sat Mar 15 06:11:33 2003 Comment: Searching any information on the "Just" surname and family. Clinton Co. & Marion Co.

Hi......Is there anyone on the list that could look for something in the Clinton Co., IL. Court Records for me? I would sure be happy to reimburse them for their effort and expenses. Gloria [email protected]

Hi, I am wondering if anyone else is researching the families that I am. I am looking for any information on Henry Venhaus (b. Germany and d. Aviston, IL 1894) and his wife Christine (Jansen) Venhaus (b. 11/1/1846 and d. 1/25/1936) and also Gerhard Kues (b. 6/12/1851 Lingen, Germany and d. 9/9/1931 Aviston, IL and his wife Wilhelmina (Toeben-otke) Kues (b. 1/21/1859 Hanover, Germany and d. 4/23/1944 Aviston, IL). I would appreciate any information that someone can give me concerning them or their families. Thank you. Phyllis (Kues) Stroud

Online German Genealogy Emigration Indexes http://home.att.net/~wee-monster/emigration.html This is a list of many German sites with searchable lists of "emigrants." It takes some time to get through all of them but if you are patient you might get lucky. Good luck. Gloria

Hi, regarding the above mentioned website, I am researching the names Burrichter and Grothues from the Emslander area, mentioned as immigrants on this web site ,who settled first in Aviston, ILL. Any one else researching these families? Thanks Alex in Mo.

This web site below includes an index of surnames of people who immigrated from this region of Germany to Missouri, Illinois and other Midwestern states. Emsland refers to an area which is near The Netherlands on Germany's northeastern border. The web site shows a connection of these people to various areas in IL and MO, including St. Louis. I am interested in the DRENTE(N), FOECKE, FOCKES and TOEBBE surnames. Any connections out there? Gloria - Florissant, Missouri. <A HREF="http://www.emslanders.com/index.html">Emslanders</A> www.emslander.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ig.2ADE/70 Message Board Post: Seeking info on Isaac W. and Mary Cox who lived in Centralia, Clinton CO, ILL. Son Richard Watson Cox, b Clinton, Co. 19 Jun, 1849. m. Lydia M. Sanders, b West Newton, IN 22 Nov. 1840.

Have you ever wanted to read an email that came across the Clinton Co. List a year or more ago? The link is on our web page in the "Join Our Clinton County Mailing List" section, after all of our data boxes. If you want to search the emails. http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=ILCLINTO If you just want to browse the emails: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ILCLINTO/ If you want to search or browse for some other list: http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl? if you know the exact List abbreviation, or for the entire 26,449 List names, go to http://lists.rootsweb.com/

In a message dated 3/8/2003 11:09:13 PM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Looking for information on Elijah Bail, born Clinton County April 4, 1815. Did he have a sister, Susannah, b. June 1, 1809, d. Sep. 9, 1871, m. Feb. 12, 1828, Benjamin Ward Thompson (1806-1878)? Jerry Blaylock

Surnames: BAIL BALE BAYLE Submitter: Jim Bail ([email protected]) Date: 08 Mar 2003 Looking for information on Elijah Bail, born Clinton County April 4, 1815. Also his father Elijah, who moved from Pennsylvania to Clinton County and died there bet. 1840 and 1850, wife Susan. Any information appreciated. Thanks! --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

As (hopefully) you all know by now, you cannot get a virus upon opening mail from the Clinton County mailing list (this is because RootsWeb, our "server" will not allow attachments). However, a number of you are used to seeing my "name" ([email protected]) or Dorothy's ([email protected]) or a few others on e-mail we send to you directly in response to requests for information. Mail sent directly from one person to another CAN contain viruses in an attachment. My purpose in clarifying this is that I want to reassure all our Listers, while advising them of the possibilities. Today I received from "Dorothy" an e-mail with an attached zip file which is infected. Of course, the mailing isn't really from Dorothy .... it's just that both her name and mine are contained in the address book on a computer that's been infected. The way this particular "worm" works, is that it "raids" the address book, picks a name to put as "sender" and then sends itself to everyone in the adressbook. It was pretty easy to tell right away this was a bogus e-mail because Dorothy and I have known each other long enough to know each other's writing "styles", but it might not be that easy for others. (The fact that it used her old e-mail address was another dead giveaway). So, as a precaution, if you receive anything from "us" be certain it really IS from us before you download an attachment (simply opening an e-mail will not give you a virus unless you use Outlook Express and have not installed the security patches). In the rare case that we send attachments, it will likely be in response to information you requested and the text message will be specific as to what the download is ("worm" messages are generic). If you  have any concerns whatsoever, simply contact the sender directly to ask if we really did send the e-mail (we won't be offended). For any questions regarding this, please contact myself or Dorothy OFFLIST. Laura Asst Admin

----- Original Message ----- To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 3:32 PM Subject: Re: [INRipley] Rev War and maps >found these and thought I would share them. Census and formation maps >Northern Maps >http://www.negenealogy.com/ngo03.htm > and one for the Revolutionary war that is still under construction > according to the webmaster but still has so good stuff none the less. > http://www.uswars.net/1775-1783/index.htm > >Chas

WePledge.com is trying to secure ten million signatures for the Constitutional Amendment to save the Pledge of Allegiance and our National Motto. This would be the most people to sign a petition in history! Help save our Pledge of Allegiance and National Motto! Please sign the petition and forward it on to others. To sign the petition and for more information, go to www.wepledge.com. As of 9:00 p.m. tonight (Tuesday, March 4, 2003) there were 1.5 million signatures.

For those not familiar with Florida, Tallahassee, Florida's captial, is halfway between Pensacola and Jacksonville. It's 30 miles south of the Georgia line and about 75 miles southwest of Alabama. the reason this is so important to know is that most of the people who moved to Florida as it was developing were from Georgia, SC & Alabama. The area south of Mouseworld wasn't developed until the early 1910 & 20s. It was a getaway for people in the North and promoted even today as a retirement area for people in the Northern US. The proposed closing of the State Library and move to FSU was bad enough but now they want to move part of it to Ft. Lauderdale. This move will guarantee it will no longer be accessible to North Florida and its neighbors. Posted on Tue, Mar. 04, 2003 Smith denies lobbying for library's transfer By Nancy Cook Lauer DEMOCRAT CAPITOL BUREAU CHIEF Former Secretary of State Jim Smith says he attended meetings between the Department of State and Nova Southeastern University after he resigned from his government job and resumed his work as a Nova lobbyist. But Smith, who earned a reputation for high ethical standards during almost two decades as a public official, said he didn't see it as a conflict of interest because he was at the negotiating sessions as a "resource" to the state, not on behalf of his client. Smith said he attended at the request of former Interim Secretary of State Ken Detzner, who said, "I'm very grateful that Jim was able to step in and provide an introduction with the Nova people." Detzner said Smith also helped those at the meetings understand the workings of the state library. Smith said he didn't recall how many meetings there were. "I am obviously not lobbying this library issue," Smith said. "I was asked to attend the meetings because I had the background on the issue. If anything, I represented the Department of State." State "revolving door" law imposes a two-year moratorium on former government decision-makers lobbying the agency where they worked. Civil penalties range from public reprimand to a $10,000 fine if the state Ethics Commission finds a violation did occur. Smith's action has prompted criticism from some state library supporters, who say it appears to be a conflict of interest. Opponents of Gov. Jeb Bush's plan to transfer the $10 million State Library circulating book collection from the R.A. Gray Building in Tallahassee to the private university located in Fort Lauderdale are organizing a protest of the library move today. The plan also would give Nova $5 million to move and maintain the collection over the next four years. Bush says the state will save about $3.8 million per year in upkeep and salaries by not having to maintain the collection. And the transfer will provide much more public access to the little-used 673,002-volume collection, he said. The move includes firing 42 state employees. Ben Wilcox, executive director of Common Cause Florida, says the criticism of Smith is an indication how easy it is to appear to run afoul of Florida's rather murky lobbyist laws, especially in close-knit capital circles, where lobbyists often make the leap to public official and vice versa. "If he's technically a lobbyist employed by Nova, I don't think he should be working on something that falls under his previous agency's jurisdiction, especially if it's something that benefits Nova," Wilcox said. "Maybe the distinction he's trying to make is he wasn't lobbying, but it makes you wonder what hat he's wearing at the time." Records show Smith registered to lobby the executive and legislative branches on behalf of Nova in 2000. He dropped Nova and the rest of his extensive client list when he took over as secretary of state after the sudden resignation of Katherine Harris in August, then resumed lobbying when his five-month stint ended Jan. 7. Bush named Detzner, another Tallahassee lobbyist whom Smith had appointed chief of staff, as the interim secretary of state until Orlando Mayor Glenda Hood took over last week. Smith said he plans to lobby the Legislature on behalf of Nova this session, but he promised to steer clear of lobbying for funding to move the State Library collection. State law allows Smith to lobby the legislature as well as other state agencies. Nova attorney Tom Panza said he remembered Smith's being at one or possibly two negotiating sessions but said he himself - not Smith - worked out the deal. Smith's role was limited to describing the State Library collections and how the state wanted to split them, Panza said. Smith told the Tallahassee Democrat that he had told the governor and others that he thought the Gray Building was "greatly underutilized." But the legislative budget request submitted to lawmakers under Smith's watch in September did not mention a move; it recommended the Division of Library and Information Services' $50.1 million operating budget be increased by about $15 million. Smith shrugged off the criticism. "This is just another example, I think unfortunately, that people unhappy with this decision keep stirring the pot," Smith said. "They obviously want to fling a little mud my way."

----- Original Message ----- From: "Cheryl Rothwell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 3:56 PM Subject: [IL-CENTRAL] Genealogy Conference in Springfield > >From TCGHS March 2003 E-newsletter, a publication of the Tazewell County > Genealogical & Historical Society > > - ISGS Announces 9th Annual Genealogical Institute Of Mid America > > [I've talked to several folks who have attended GIMA in the past and > they all highly recommend it. If you ever wanted to sleep, breath, and > dream about genealogy for a solid week, this is a great opportunity. > Students come from all over the U.S. and Canada to attend this Institute > - Mike] > > July 7-10, 2003 - Springfield, Illinois - University Of Illinois > Springfield Campus > > The Genealogical Institute of Mid America (GIMA) is a four-day intensive > educational experience. Students choose one of four courses to attend > for the 4 days. Instructors are nationally known lecturers who have > spoken at local, state and national genealogical conferences. > > Courses are taught in a relaxed atmosphere. Be a part of a Midwest > tradition, where genealogical instruction is presented in a relaxed > atmosphere, a small informal setting where camaraderie among attendees > and instructors make for a unique educational experience. > > Housing will be available at the UIS campus. Registration includes > attendance in one course, course materials, lunch and dinner. Housing is > additional. Sessions will also be offered in the evening, included in > registration. There is an additional, separate registration; computer > course offered July 11, 2003 taught by Michael J. Neill. > > Course information > > Michael J. Neill: COURSE I > Course I is not really for intended for those completely new to > genealogy --we've had longtime researchers in this class. We assume you > have a working knowledge of most of the records discussed in our > sessions and have used most of them before. Throughout the Part I > sessions, the promise and pitfall of each record type is discussed. > > Sandra H. Luebking: COURSE II > Course II is recommended for anyone who has mastered basic genealogical > record-keeping skills and terminology; is reasonably familiar with > common 20th century U.S. local and county sources; can properly abstract > and cite a simple will, deed, or census entry; and has worked a minimum > of 15 hours each in a genealogical library collection, a family history > library or center, and a county courthouse. While the focus is hands on > research, Internet discussion will be included and the top sites for > advanced research will be identified. > > Lloyd D. Bockstruck: EASTERN SOURCES > This course will include research sources and techniques covering the > Eastern Seaboard; Arrival and Beyond the Tidewater; the New England > Colonies: Plymouth, Massachusetts Bay and New Haven, Connecticut River > Valley, Rhode Island, New Hampshire, Maine, Vermont; The Middle > Colonies: New York, Pennsylvania, new Jersey, Delaware, and Maryland; > The Virginias, The Carolinas, Ohio River Valley; and Tennessee after the > Revolutionary War. > > Paul Milner BRITISH ISLES RESEARCH > Encompassing the whole of Great Britain, including Scotland, Ireland, > Wales, and England, this course will cover each geographic location in a > detailed "tour" of their research sources. Included will be immigration > from those areas to North America. > > Friday, July 11, 20003 > Genealogical Research Computer Class > Plans are being made for an all day computer class with Michael J. > Neill. This will be a separate registration. > > For Further Information > > To be added to the mailing list, please send your mailing address to Susan > Kaufman-Tavenner GIMA Chairperson [email protected] Please put GIMA in > the subject line. > > Information can also be found at the ISGS web site > > www.rootsweb.com/~ilsgs/index.html > > or write: ISGS-GIMA03, PO Box 10195, Springfield, IL 62791-0195 > > > > ==== IL-CENTRAL Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the IL-CENTRAL List if you are in mail mode, send to > [email protected] If you are receiving messages in the digest mode, send to [email protected] >

Dieter, Thank you for your site on "German life". I have recently read a new book called "Portraits of Our Past" by Emily Rose that covers much of the same information and focuses mainly on the Jewish experience and wonderful stories of her ancestors. Very fascinating stuff! Thank you again. Great site! Judy Landauer On Thursday, February 20, 2003, at 02:42 PM, [email protected] wrote: > Here is a link that gives some ideas of social status in southern > Germany. > > <A HREF="http://home.nikocity.de/djoos/germvill.htm">Dieter Joos: > German Village in the Past</A> > > It gives a lot of great detail of life in a "typical" southern Germany > area > during the 1500s to 1800s. > Gloria > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > Richard & Judy Landauer [email protected]