Just a quick question: Do you know if you are related to the Anna Landauer who was born 14 Jul 1845 in Hesses-Kassel, Germany and came to Clinton C. in 1847? I have a connection to Adam Wolf whom she married and later moved with to KS. Darlene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Landauer" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 4:23 PM Subject: Re: [ILCLINTON] German life from Prussia List V03 #72 > Dieter, > > Thank you for your site on "German life". I have recently read a new > book called "Portraits of Our Past" by Emily Rose that covers much of > the same information and focuses mainly on the Jewish experience and > wonderful stories of her ancestors. Very fascinating stuff! > > Thank you again. Great site! > > Judy Landauer > On Thursday, February 20, 2003, at 02:42 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > > Here is a link that gives some ideas of social status in southern > > Germany. > > > > <A HREF="http://home.nikocity.de/djoos/germvill.htm">Dieter Joos: > > German Village in the Past</A> > > > > It gives a lot of great detail of life in a "typical" southern Germany > > area > > during the 1500s to 1800s. > > Gloria > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > records, go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > Richard & Judy Landauer > [email protected] > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy Falk" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 12:52 PM Subject: [ILCLINTON] Free 1930 census images online (limited ) > Genealogy.com just started offering a 14-day free trial to their gold > membership - part of which includes the 1930 census. The link to the 14-day > free trial is > http://www.genealogy.com/membership_goldwft.html?priority=5090258 I think > that's 14 days from the time you sign up, not from today. Don't know how > long this special deal will be offered. > > If you can help transcribe one of the 1930 Clinton County Townships, please > go to http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilclint2/1930census/index.htm and send email > to Carol about which Township you'll do. > > Genealogy.com only subscribes online at their secure site, they don't take > phone orders on the free trials. If you only want this 14 day free trial, > be sure to cancel it on day 13, and be sure to get and save a "cancellation > receipt" by email. > > They also have the 1870, 1890 (probably nothing for our county), 1900 and > 1910 censuses indexed if you need help finding a missing ancestor in the US. > http://www.genealogy.com/uscensussub.html > > Dorothy > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Submitter: Timpen ([email protected]) Date: 26 May 2003

Surnames: JANSEN SCHMIDT WILKEN MUSENBROCK KOBBE Submitter: Carol Windle ([email protected]) Date: 25 May 2003 Looking for any information for: Albert and Frederika Jansen descendants, Gerhard and Catherina Kobbe Wilken descendants, William and Bernardina Jansen Schmidt descendants, Herman William and Bernardina Musenbrock Wilken descendants. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Surnames: ROSEN BROECKLING HASELHORST Submitter: Donald Rosen ([email protected]) Date: 24 May 2003 Rosen, Frank(3/11/1877 - 12/2/1936). Brother to Henry J. Rosen (10/28/1890)who married Teresa Haselhorst on 1/12/1913. Father of Alvin, Amanda, Leona,and Frances. His sister was Bernadine Rosen Broeckling, Who married Willie Broeckling on 5/16/1911. Frank left the Breese area around 1910.He ended up in Hamburg, Arkansas where he married Kate Dailey Wilson. He is my grandfather and any information about him or his family would be helpful --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ig.2ADE/75.1 Message Board Post: I looked it up and agree with you. They were your ancestors. The age of the wife was 23. Very common to say the age was less than it really was. The census taker certain wrote "F" and T'" alike. I am amazed that you found your family. Jean - volunteer

In case there are any other Boswell or Brookman researchers, this is the answer I sent to Pat earlier today. Hi, Patricia, I can give you what has been previously transcribed, but I'd recommend you double check whatever index you were using. I still can't access my CDs, and Carol is offline for a few days. There should be places of birth of their parents, etc. Perhaps you could try Baswell, etc. in the index you are looking at. 1870 Clinton County Census Clement Township Household 6-7 Boswell, James, 33, M, W, Farmer, $0 $500, IL Boswell, Mary E., 23, F, W, IL Boswell, John W., 11, M, W, At home, IL Boswell, William, Oct, M, W, IL Lorvery, Polly, 60, F, W, MO In the 1880 census, did you also see the entry for Sarah J. Boswell that was living with her grandmother, Mary A. Ells? (again, you should check those spellings - could be Ellis, etc.). I see the marriage for James and Mary in 1857 on http://www.sos.state.il.us/departments/archives/genealogy/forms/marrsrch.htm l There won't be any more info available on that marriage. Do you have their death dates? Did they die before 1910? I don't see them in http://www.sos.state.il.us/departments/archives/genealogy/forms/idphdeathsrc h.html which begins in 1916. The only Boswell death in a partial listing for an earlier time period that I have is: Page 188, # 1519, Boswell, Emma Lee, Age 2y6m11d, died 12 Aug 1887 from congestive chills, died in town of Huey in Clement Twp., buried Huston Grave Yard. I could check the microfilm at the Family History Center next week if you don't have their death dates. We might go up around Huey within the next month, I'll see if we can locate the grave yard, but usually the family type grave yards are in sad shape and the stones are in worse shape. Check back in a few months at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilclint2/cemetery/clement/index.htm - we have it listed there as Hanston. Back to the 1860 census that Carol gave you last night, I see in a listing that there was Phebe Boswell, 20, Tenn. living in a neighbor's household. That neighbor is L. C. Davis, 28, farmer, Tenn, and his wife Mary, f, 26, Tenn in case that Mary could be a Boswell. That 1860 census also shows the following Brookmans - I'll give you a household # from this listing but it won't be that on the microfilm: # 628 - Brookman, Dena, f, 17, IL living in the Henry Baker, 30, Germ, and wife Elizabeth 20, Germ household. #685 - Brookman, Anna, f, 20, Germ, living in the John Rohr, 50, Germ, and Catharine, f, 52, Germ household. #1659 - Brookman, Lena, f, 13, Germ, living in the Dr. E H Klinekorte, 39, Germ and Catharine, 37, Germ household. #1459 - Brockman, Theresa, f, 6, IL, living with William Richter, 36, Germ and Anna, 32, Germ household. #1572 - Brookerman, Stephen, 38, Germ and Eliza, 32, Germ. I see a probate box # 159 for W. T. H. Boswell maybe around 1851 and one for Wm. Brookmann, #141, maybe around 1865. Do you need more info on how to get the info from there? The index is now computerized at the court house, so there could be more by now. Let me know what else I can look for. Dorothy ----- Original Message ----- From: Patricia Staley To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 6:56 AM Subject: Clinton Co. Look-up I am trying to find info. on the following family. Can you please check your resources to see if they are listed? James Boswell born Jan 1836, Pa., Tn., or Ill. wife Mary (Brookman) born Feb 1834 Ill. (looking for her parents also). Children: Acc. to 1900 census they had 5 but just 2 living. John born Jan 1860 william born Oct 1869 Both are still living at home in the 1900 census They are found in the Clinton Co. in 1860, not located in index in 1870, 1880 they are living in CLEMENT, 1900 still in Clinton Co. I didn't locate them in the 1910 census. Any help would be appreciated! Patricia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry S." <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 12:10 PM Subject: Re: [ILCLINTON] JAMES ANS MARY (BROOKMAN) BOSWELL, CLINTON CO., ILL. > Pat ......In the event you don't recieve any help on your post, you might > want to contact *Clinton County Historical Society* 1091 Franklin St. - > Carlyle, IL. 62231. They will tell you who to reach for a marriage licence > and that will tell you who the parents were. Good Luck > ..............................Regards, Larry > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 5:39 AM > Subject: [ILCLINTON] JAMES ANS MARY (BROOKMAN) BOSWELL, CLINTON CO., ILL. > > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > > > Classification: Query > > > > Message Board URL: > > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ig.2ADE/77 > > > > Message Board Post: > > > > Looking for info. on the family of James Boswell born Jan 1836 and wife > Mary (Brookman) born Feb 1834. Married in Clinton Co. 1857. Five children > born but only two show in census records. John Jan 1860 and William Oct > 1869. Family found in 1860, 1880 and 1900 Clinton Co. Didn't locate them > in the 1870 census index. WHO WERE MARY'S PARENTS???? When did she die and > where is she buried? Any info. will be greatly appreciated! > > > >

Pat ......In the event you don't recieve any help on your post, you might want to contact *Clinton County Historical Society* 1091 Franklin St. - Carlyle, IL. 62231. They will tell you who to reach for a marriage licence and that will tell you who the parents were. Good Luck ..............................Regards, Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 5:39 AM Subject: [ILCLINTON] JAMES ANS MARY (BROOKMAN) BOSWELL, CLINTON CO., ILL. > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ig.2ADE/77 > > Message Board Post: > > Looking for info. on the family of James Boswell born Jan 1836 and wife Mary (Brookman) born Feb 1834. Married in Clinton Co. 1857. Five children born but only two show in census records. John Jan 1860 and William Oct 1869. Family found in 1860, 1880 and 1900 Clinton Co. Didn't locate them in the 1870 census index. WHO WERE MARY'S PARENTS???? When did she die and where is she buried? Any info. will be greatly appreciated! > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ig.2ADE/77 Message Board Post: Looking for info. on the family of James Boswell born Jan 1836 and wife Mary (Brookman) born Feb 1834. Married in Clinton Co. 1857. Five children born but only two show in census records. John Jan 1860 and William Oct 1869. Family found in 1860, 1880 and 1900 Clinton Co. Didn't locate them in the 1870 census index. WHO WERE MARY'S PARENTS???? When did she die and where is she buried? Any info. will be greatly appreciated!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Kinder, Turner Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ig.2ADE/76 Message Board Post: I'm looking for information on June Kinder, born Aug. 29, 1933 and married Corlis McFrancis Turner in May of 1955 in Carlyle, Illinois. Corlis was born Oct. 12th 1923 in Fulton Ky. but him and June lived in Carlyle for several years in the 1960's. They had one son, James Edward Turner who was born Aug. 30, 1956. Corlis and June were my Aunt and Uncle...I would love to hear from other relatives out there! Thanks, Mary.

Robert, I believe you've probably found the right family. Interestingly the name is indexed as TUMS on Heritage Quest :) I'll contact you off-line with some thoughts. Tracy Lewis Anchorage, AK In a message dated 5/21/03 11:58:32 AM Alaskan Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Subj: [ILCLINTON] Need 1870 Census Lookup, Pg 360, Household 99 > Date: 5/21/03 11:58:32 AM Alaskan Daylight Time >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: THEENER THENOR THIENER THEINER Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ig.2ADE/75 Message Board Post: Dear Listers: Is there someone out there who could take a look at the 1870 Clinton Co US Census for me? On page 360, in dwelling 99-99, I believe that I have FINALLY located my great-grandfather. However, the census image on Ancestry.com is not clear enough for me to be certain. If this is, in fact, my great-grandfather the surname is spelled a bit differently than in other records that I have found. I realize that this is not an uncommon experience. The family that I am looking for is Ferdinand and Catherine/Katherine THEENER. This surname is variously spelled Theener, Thenor, and Theiner. There are probably even more variations that I have not found. My records show that: Ferdinand was born in Hanover 26 Sep 1837, so would have been age 32 at last birthday. This agrees with the 1870 census record. He is also found in the 1880 census, age 42. The surname in the 1880 census record is clearly "Theener". Catharine was born in Missouri 13 Aug 1845, so would have been age 25 at last birthday. The census records shows her age to be 23. Could the 3 on the census record be a 5? She is also found in the 1880 census, age 35. Wilhelmine "Mina" was born in Missouri 28 May 1866, so would have been age 4 just before the census was taken. This agrees with the census record. She is also found in the 1880 census, age 14. Magdalena "Lena" was born in Illinois 03 Feb 1868, so would have been age 2 at last birthday. This agrees with the census record. She is also found in the 1880 census, age 12. Caroline was born in Illinois 04 Mar 1870, so would have been age 3 months when the census was taken. This agrees with the census record. She is also found in the 1880 census, age 10. The 1880 census for this family also lists three children who were born after 1870. Please excuse my lengthy query. I am only trying to provide the information that leads me to believe that the 1870 Ferdinand and Catharine above are indeed my ancestors. Sincerely, Robert Schroeder

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ig.2ADE/74 Message Board Post: Please visit the link below to view photographs of the Francois, Warren and Buck Families of Clinton Co., Illinois; Robertson Co, Tennessee; Wright Co, Missouri and Polk Co., Missouri. I bought these photos at an estate sale, thus saving them from a destined trip to the dumpster. http://home.attbi.com/%7Edreanna/rescuebrowse.html Photos include: Schofield School children, 1910-1915, including: Bee Berry, Roscoe Viles, Pudgy P., Cliff Porter, Nellie Buck, Marie Buck, Lina P., Lola P., Clara, Maud M., Hupert or Huper?, Elna Viles, Zona, Veva, Josie, Amy V., Jessie Berry, Dasha Von, Ormand Porter or Potter, Guy Cowden, Jess LeJeune Earl Buck Florence Eidson Buck Leland Buck Nellie Buck Francois Marie Buck Agee Juanita Buck Agnes Higgenbotham Louis Alexander Francois Mary Clementine Sears Francois James Alexander Francois Zula Warren Francois Louis Julius Francois Lillie Warren Francois Calvin Francois Mary Sears Francois Winnie Francois Velma Francois Vernie Clark Francois Harold Calvin Francois Doris Francois Bonnie Francois Peter Francois Dorothy Agee Vena Warren Riley Warren Lewis A. Warren Nancy Brown Warren Bertie Warren Winnie Warren Jackson Warren Winneford "Winnie" Shaw Warren Among others I’m posting this in several places, so please excuse overlappping posts.

Genealogy.com just started offering a 14-day free trial to their gold membership - part of which includes the 1930 census. The link to the 14-day free trial is http://www.genealogy.com/membership_goldwft.html?priority=5090258 I think that's 14 days from the time you sign up, not from today. Don't know how long this special deal will be offered. If you can help transcribe one of the 1930 Clinton County Townships, please go to http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilclint2/1930census/index.htm and send email to Carol about which Township you'll do. Genealogy.com only subscribes online at their secure site, they don't take phone orders on the free trials. If you only want this 14 day free trial, be sure to cancel it on day 13, and be sure to get and save a "cancellation receipt" by email. They also have the 1870, 1890 (probably nothing for our county), 1900 and 1910 censuses indexed if you need help finding a missing ancestor in the US. http://www.genealogy.com/uscensussub.html Dorothy

Surnames: EILERS HILMES KAHRHOFF DUING KONEN/KOPNEN JANSEN FRERKER Submitter: Tracy Lewis ([email protected]) Date: 12 May 2003 Following the family of Bernard Lawrence EILERS and hoping to hear from fellow researchers. Bernard Lawrence Eilers b. 1810 Lengerich, Hannover, died 1847 - 1849 either in St. Louis, MO or Clinton Co., IL. Married circa 1840 Anna Maria HILMES (1808 - before 1880)probably in Lengerich. Family emigrates circa 1847. Widow Anna Maria nee Hilmes marries Bernard Henry WALLER on 2 April 1849 at St. Boniface in Germantown. Children of Bernard and Anna: Anna Mary b. circa 1840 m. Gerhard KAHRHOFF John b. circa 1842,unknown after 1870 Christina b. Dec. 1843 m. Johann Gerhard DUING Frank (Franz Joseph) b. 3 March 1847, St. Louis m. Anna Adelheid KONEN/KOPNEN I have additional information on the families of the above children, hoping to make further connections.

Submitter: Tracy Lewis ([email protected]) Date: 12 May 2003 Following the family of Bernard Lawrence EILERS and hoping to hear from fellow researchers. Bernard Lawrence Eilers b. 1810 Lengerich, Hannover, died 1847 - 1849 either in St. Louis, MO or Clinton Co., IL. Married circa 1840 Anna Maria HILMES (1808 - before 1880)probably in Lengerich. Family emigrates circa 1847. Widow Anna Maria nee Hilmes marries Bernard Henry WALLER on 2 April 1849 at St. Boniface in Germantown. Children: Anna Mary b. circa 1840 m. Gerhard KAHRHOFF

I would dearly love to know what is contained in the following death records: Page 182 Record # 2348 AHLER, Adelpaide Page 196 Record # 2523 EHLERS, Will Thank you so very much, Tracy Lewis Anchorage, AK

>From our neighboring county. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diane Walsh" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2003 6:45 AM Subject: [ILSTCLAI] a German Research class online > List - > Because St. Clair had so many German immigrants, some of you may be interested in this beginners German Research class offered online by MyFamily.com I saw the post on today's Ancestry Newsletter http://www.myfamily.com/isapi.dll?c=home&htx=training%2FgenClass&class=10&o_ iid=831%3A+Ancestry+Daily+News+%2D+Generic (may have to cut and paste) > If anyone out there has taken this class, I'm sure the list would appreciate some feedback. > Diane

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ig.2ADE/72.1 Message Board Post: There are the census-sequence and an alphabetical version of the 1830 census at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilclint2/ Two of the 5 Reeves families are still there in 1840.

Surnames: RIPPLINGER GRIESBAUM KIEFER HERTENSTEIN GILDIG WANGER Submitter: Lawrence Ripplinger ([email protected]) Date: 30 Apr 2003 Searching for surnames: RIPPLINGER, GRIESBAUM, KIEFER, GILDIG, HERTENSTEIN, WANGER --------------------------------------------------------------------------------