Hi John, I also wanted to tell you that Anna Ratermann's maiden name is definitely Schnitker. My dad, Orville Kues, said that his Grandma Anna Ratermann used to live with them while he was growing up. Also, I have a copy of Bernard and Anna Ratermann's death certificate. It states that her father was a Schnitker. Also, I have copies of the funeral cards for Wilhelm Ratermann (in German), Anna Ratermann (English), and Bernard Ratermann (German). If you would like a copy of any of these, please let me know. Phyllis (Kues) Stroud

Deb, I have Frederick Ratermann in my family tree. I have this info: Frederick Ratermann b: 04-04-1822 (not 4-11-1822) d: 05-26-1884 Buried at St. Dominic/St. Augustine in Breese Married Elizabeth Woeste b: 8-12-1818 d: 12-27-1893 Buried at St. Dominic/St. Augustine in Breese Child # 1 (in no particular order) Bernard b: 08-10-1848 d: 10-16-1923 Buried at St. Dominic/St. Augustine in Breese He married: Anna Schnitker (I see your spelling is different) B: 08-11-1853 D: 10-26-1934 Buried at St. Dominic/St. Augustine in Breese Child # 2 Wilhelm Ratermann b: 02-11-1853 d: 11-02-1926 Buried at St. Dominic/St. Augustine in Breese He married: Anna Richter b: 09-18-1856 d: 08-07-1928 Buried at St. Dominic/St. Augustine in Breese Child # 3 John B: 08-26-1864 D: 05-01-1939 Buried at St. Dominic/St. Augustine in Breese He married: Elisabeth Rosen b: 03-31-1881 d: 02-19-1943 Buried at St. Dominic/St. Augustine in Breese Child # 4 Elisabeth No other info She married: Conrad Meyer No other info Child # 5 Maria Ratermann b: Unknown d: 10-25-1862 Buried at St. Dominic/St. Augustine in Breese Child # 6 Christina b: Unknown d: 1862 Buried at St. Dominic/St. Augustine in Breese If I can be of any more help let me know.... My tree branches out thru Wilhelm John Ratermann

trying to find information on my grandfathers family Bernard ratermann b: 10-10-1848 d: 10-616-1923 married Anna Schnitzel wanting brothers and sisters that may be out there I know his father was Frederick b: 4-11-1822 married Elisabeth Woeste Thanks Deb

The first piece of the transcribed 1870 census has been put online. Kelly Isaak has transcribed Brookside Township, it is online by the enumerator sequence, Carol has added an alphabetical sequence link, too. If any one could help Kelly in transcribing this census year, do contact Kelly. http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilclint2/1870census/index.htm Pritchett Cemetery in East Fork Township is now online http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilclint2/cemetery/eastfork/pritchett.htm

In a message dated 6/25/2003 4:21:06 PM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Descendants of Thomas Essington - 25 Jun 2003 > Sorry, I don't see a connection. Jerry Blaylock

Opal may have been their daughter. Here is the little I have: Descendants of Thomas Essington - 25 Jun 2003 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- First Generation 1. Thomas Essington lived in Clinton County, Illinois in 1884.1 He was farmer about 1920 in Irishtown Township, Clinton County, Illinois.1 Tenant on Sec 28, 2a owned by William Allen. Thomas Essington and Kate Cummings were married before 1920.1 Thomas Essington and Kate Cummings had the following children: 2 i. Sarah Essington. 3 ii. Opal Essington. +4 iii. Mersie Essington. 5 iv. Thomas Essington Jr. 6 v. Lloyd Essington. Prepared by: Frankie C Heinzmann 217 Guilford Forge Universal City, TX 78148 (210) 659-4210 [email protected] Sources 1. Prairie Farmer's Reliable Directory of Farmers and Breeders, Washington and Clinton Counties, Illinois (Chicago, Illinois: Prairie Farmer, 1920), p 118. -----Original Message----- From: Dorothy Falk [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 5:53 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [ILCLINTON] Cummins, Hudelson, Essington Surnames: CUMMINS HUDELSON ESSINGTON Submitter: Mary Reynolds ([email protected]) Date: 24 Jun 2003 Does anyone in Carlyle know Thomas and Katie (Cummins) Essington or Opal Hudelson? I think they may be relatives. Please some one help me out. I'm sure that some of their relatives still live in Carlyle. Thanks Mary Reynolds [email protected]

In a message dated 6/25/2003 5:55:50 AM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Does anyone in Carlyle know Thomas and Katie (Cummins) Essington or Opal > Hudelson? I think they may be relatives. Please some one help me out. I'm sure > that some of their relatives still live in Carlyle. I have a Catherine Essington who married John Smith. Their children were: Irena "Rena" Smith, b. ca 1857, Carlyle m. May 7, 1901, William J. Ritter Lurina Smith, b. ca 1858, Carlyle m. June 24, 1878, Leroy S. Sargent. Jerry Blaylock

Thanks for the churchangel site. Can we also obtain data on churches in Europe ? Evelyn & Conrad Nettemeyer

Evelyn: There are some European churches on that sight. I don't know if all of them are on there. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 9:18 AM Subject: [ILCLINTON] Re: ILCLINTO-D Digest V03 #75 > > Thanks for the churchangel site. Can we also obtain data on churches in > Europe ? > > Evelyn & Conrad Nettemeyer > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Surnames: CUMMINS HUDELSON ESSINGTON Submitter: Mary Reynolds ([email protected]) Date: 24 Jun 2003 Does anyone in Carlyle know Thomas and Katie (Cummins) Essington or Opal Hudelson? I think they may be relatives. Please some one help me out. I'm sure that some of their relatives still live in Carlyle. Thanks Mary Reynolds [email protected]

I will be leaving on Tuesday, 1 July on vacation (where I plan to meet up with the lovely, gracious and talented Dorothy, Carol, and Gloria of the Clinton County Cemsis Crew). I will be returning Tuesday, 8 July, and until then will have no internet access (by choice). So I ask if you have any questions, either wait til after the 8th to ask them, or understand I won't be able to answer until my return. Have a wonderful, joyous, "land of the free, home of the brave" Indepedence Day! Laura

Jim Roeckemann at the Carlyle library sent this site for finding contact information on churches existing today throughout the world - by city. The site is: www.churchangel.com Thanks, Jim, and that person that passed it on to him.

Carol has loaded the 1930 census index for Wheatfield Township and Trenton City online. http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilclint2/1930census/index.htm We could still use more volunteers for the remaining enumeration districts (ED's).

----- Original Message ----- From: "Cheryl Rothwell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 12:52 PM Subject: [IL-CENTRAL] New SSDI > The following article is from Eastman's Online Genealogy Newsletter and is > copyright 2003 by Richard W. Eastman. It is re-published here with the > permission of the author. Information about the newsletter is available at > http://www.RootsForum.com. > > New SSDI Search Engine > > Another free Social Security Death Index online database has been announced. > This might appear to be "ho-hum news" as there are already several such > databases available. However, a closer examination shows that this one is > different. > > Family Tree Legends is a genealogy program for Windows that I reviewed in > the November 11, 2002 edition of this newsletter. You can read that article > at: http://www.rootsforum.com/archives/news0245.htm. Cliff Shaw, one of the > developers of Family Tree legends, has now announced the newest and most > powerful SSDI search engine yet. It has all the features of every other SSDI > search engine, plus 4 entirely unique ones: > > Name Prefix Search - Enter from 3 to 5 characters for the last name and > select the Prefix option... it will search on that last name prefix. > Year Range Searches - For both the Death Year and Birth Year, you can select > to search a range of years instead of the year needing to be exactly right. > Age at Death Search - You can enter the age at which the person died. This > is really effective if you don't have any idea what year they were born or > died but you do know their age at death. > You can click on the places that are returned in the results and get > latitude and longitude, region information, aerial photos, maps, and more. > > I tried the new database and can confirm that it works well. I really liked > the feature that will automatically generate a letter to the Social Security > Administration asking for a copy of the deceased person's Form SS-5, an > application for a Social Security number. You can directly print the letter, > stuff it into an envelope, along with a check, and mail it to the address > indicated. In a few weeks you will receive the copy of the original SS-5. > > The Family Tree Legends Social Security Death Index will also automatically > search the millions of records on GenCircles, looking for any records of the > same individual. > > Cliff also states, "I want it to be known that this SSDI search engine will > ALWAYS be free." That is an important statement in this day and age of > formerly-free services disappearing into for-pay sites. > > You can access the free Family Tree Legends Social Security Death Index > database at: http://www.familytreelegends.com/ssdi > > >

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In a message dated 6/16/03 10:19:13 PM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > The Immigrant Ships Transcribers Guild has moved, > and our 3 million plus visitors need to know where we have gone. > > We currently have nearly 6,000 passenger lists transcribed and > still have totally free access to our data. > If you wish to visit us, again or for the first time, please do so at: > > http://immigrantships.org > > Be sure to also stop by the ISTG Compass - a source for many links to help > you in your research: > > http://immigrantships.org/newcompass/pcindex.html > > It will take google another month to catch up with us, so > if you are so inclined, please spread the word! Thanks! > > Sincerely, > Don Schmalbeck (also at: [email protected]) > Archives Research Coordinator > Immigrant Ships Transcribers Guild > http://immigrantships.org > > >

----- Original Message ----- From: "B. Stewart" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 10:16 PM Subject: Re: [ILCLINTON] Hermeling immigrants from Minden > Sorry, this was sent to the wrong address. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dan Steffen" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 7:31 PM > Subject: [ILCLINTON] Hermeling immigrants from Minden > > > > There are three Hermeling immigrants listed in the book _Vivat Amerika: > > Auswanderung aus dem Kreis Minden (1816-1933)_ by Gottlieb > > Riechmann. These would be strictly immigrants from the district of Minden > > in northern Germany, and then only ones for whom some form of > documentation > > has survived. The three listed are: > > > > Hermeling, Christian Hermann Ferdinand (of) Hahlen; (immigrated) before > > 1858; (presumably to) America. > > > > Hermeling, Diedrich Wilhelm (of) Hahlen; (born) 20.12.1827; (immigrated) > > 1846; America. > > > > Hermeling, Johann Heinrich Christian (of) Hahlen; (born) 28.2.1846; > > (immigrated) 1854. (no destination indicated). > > > > Hahlen was a small village just west of Minden (now part of Minden)--my > > Steffen ancestors came from there. I also have some books compiled from > > the churchbooks of the village listing families through about 1875. If > any > > of the above sound promising, please contact me and I'll see what > > additional information I can find. (There are two pages of Hermelings > > listed in these books.) > > > > The surviving immigration records are rather spotty--often only males of > > military age are listed, females often didn't apply for permission to > > immigrate, sometimes one family member is listed when, in fact, the entire > > family immigrated. When looking for immigrants from this area, full > names, > > birthdates, etc. become very important, as names were very similar--for > > instance, I checked the family of the last immigrant listed above since he > > likely immigrated with his family due to his age. I found at least three > > other Johann Heinrich Christian Hermelings before finding the right one > (he > > was, as it turned out, the only surviving son in his family, along with > > five sisters). > > > > Again, contact me if I can be of help. > > > > Dan Steffen > > [email protected] > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

----- Original Message ----- From: "B. Stewart" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 10:17 PM Subject: Re: [ILCLINTON] Re:Dannaman > Sorry, this was sent to the wrong address. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "lee markle" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 6:43 PM > Subject: [ILCLINTON] Re:Dannaman > > > > Dorothy and Linda, > > > > I made a mistake in the date for Christoph Dannaman. Should be June > 5,1911. The one on June 5,1916 was his 2nd wife. I had found the marriages, > census and naturalization information. The naturalization was his and the > Dannaman and Huge marriage was my grandparents, Christoph's son. > > > > I really appreciate your help and also think the web site and list are > great. Thanks Lee > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

Sorry, this was sent to the wrong address. ----- Original Message ----- From: "lee markle" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 6:43 PM Subject: [ILCLINTON] Re:Dannaman > Dorothy and Linda, > > I made a mistake in the date for Christoph Dannaman. Should be June 5,1911. The one on June 5,1916 was his 2nd wife. I had found the marriages, census and naturalization information. The naturalization was his and the Dannaman and Huge marriage was my grandparents, Christoph's son. > > I really appreciate your help and also think the web site and list are great. Thanks Lee > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

Sorry, this was sent to the wrong address. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Steffen" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 7:31 PM Subject: [ILCLINTON] Hermeling immigrants from Minden > There are three Hermeling immigrants listed in the book _Vivat Amerika: > Auswanderung aus dem Kreis Minden (1816-1933)_ by Gottlieb > Riechmann. These would be strictly immigrants from the district of Minden > in northern Germany, and then only ones for whom some form of documentation > has survived. The three listed are: > > Hermeling, Christian Hermann Ferdinand (of) Hahlen; (immigrated) before > 1858; (presumably to) America. > > Hermeling, Diedrich Wilhelm (of) Hahlen; (born) 20.12.1827; (immigrated) > 1846; America. > > Hermeling, Johann Heinrich Christian (of) Hahlen; (born) 28.2.1846; > (immigrated) 1854. (no destination indicated). > > Hahlen was a small village just west of Minden (now part of Minden)--my > Steffen ancestors came from there. I also have some books compiled from > the churchbooks of the village listing families through about 1875. If any > of the above sound promising, please contact me and I'll see what > additional information I can find. (There are two pages of Hermelings > listed in these books.) > > The surviving immigration records are rather spotty--often only males of > military age are listed, females often didn't apply for permission to > immigrate, sometimes one family member is listed when, in fact, the entire > family immigrated. When looking for immigrants from this area, full names, > birthdates, etc. become very important, as names were very similar--for > instance, I checked the family of the last immigrant listed above since he > likely immigrated with his family due to his age. I found at least three > other Johann Heinrich Christian Hermelings before finding the right one (he > was, as it turned out, the only surviving son in his family, along with > five sisters). > > Again, contact me if I can be of help. > > Dan Steffen > [email protected] > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >