I realize that this is not geneologically appropriate but a word to the wise...before you go and delete anything of off your harddrive you should always double check and make sure that you haven't received notification about a virus hoax.  There are a number of those floating around that tell people to remove files off of their hard drive which are necessary. Go to one of the virus software websites such as McAffee or Norton or even do a search on Virus Hoaxes and make sure that this really is a virus first.... Just ran a search and found the following on Norton's website: Jdbgmgr.exe file hoax Reported on: April 12, 2002 Last Updated on: July 19, 2003 02:47:09 AM   Symantec Security Response encourages you to ignore any messages regarding this hoax. It is harmless and is intended only to cause unwarranted concern. Type: <A HREF="http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/refa.html#hoax">Hoax</A> This hoax, like the<A HREF="http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/sulfnbk.exe.warning.html">SULFNBK.EXE Warning hoax</A>, tries to encourage you to delete a legitimate Windows file from your computer. Jdbgmgr.exe is the file to which the hoax refers, and it is the Microsoft Debugger Registrar for Java. The Jdbgmgr.exe file may be installed when you install Windows. Notes: Some versions of this hoax take advantage of an actual threat, the <A HREF="http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/[email protected]"> [email protected]</A> worm. The Jdbgmgr.exe file mentioned in the hoax has a bear icon. The actual <A HREF="http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/[email protected]">[email protected]</A> worm file is a .exe file and does not have a bear icon. Other versions of this hoax have slightly different ways in which they refer to the Jdbgmgr.exe file, usually in the subject of the email message. For example: Subject: "jdbg" Virus: how to detect and remove. http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/jdbgmgr.exe.file.hoax.html Tracy in AK In a message dated 7/28/03 6:20:09 AM Alaskan Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Subj: [ILCLINTON] Virus > Date: 7/28/03 6:20:09 AM Alaskan Daylight Time > From: <A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A> > Reply-to: <A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A> > To: <A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A> > > Charlie just mailed this to me and I am doing what he told me and I did find > this teddy bear thing and I removed it. I hope I haven't done anything I > shouldn't have. You all know I am a little bit computer illiterate. Mine > was under my C drive. > > Thanks, Mary >

Charlie just mailed this to me and I am doing what he told me and I did find this teddy bear thing and I removed it.  I hope I haven't done anything I shouldn't have.  You all know I am a little bit computer illiterate.  Mine was under my C drive. Thanks, Mary I just received this message from a fellow subscriber to a mailing list, and did in fact find the virus in my system, which I have since removed. I am very sorry for the inconvenience to each of you! Charles LaRobardier Hi everybody, I am really sorry to send you this but it seems that I was infected by a nasty virus.  Since this was in my computer and it attaches itself to all addresses in my address book, it is also on yours.  This was inadvertently sent to me by a friend because it was in her computer. The virus (called jdbgmgr.exe) is not detected by Nortoon or McAfee anitvirus systems.  The virus sits quietly for 14 days before damaging the system.  It is sent automatically by messenger and by the address book, whether or not you sent an e-mail to your contacts. Here's how to check for the  virus and how to get rid of it: 1. go to start, find or search option. 2. in the file folder option, type the name jdbgmgr.exe 3. be sure you search you C: drive and all subfolders and any other drives you may have 4. click "find now" 5. the virus has a Teddy Bear icon with name jdbgmgr.exe  DO NOT OPEN IT! 6. go to edit (on the menu bar) and choose "select all" to highlight the file without opening it 7. now go to file (on the menu bar) and select delete.  It will then go to the Recycle Bin 8. IF YOU FIND THE VIRUS YOU MUST CONTACT ALL THE PEOPLE IN YOUR ADDRESS BOOK, SO THEY CAN ERADICATE IT IN THEIR OWN ADDRESS BOOKS To do This: a) Open a new e-mail message b) Click the icon of the address book next to the "TO" c) Highlight every name and add to "BCC" (which means blind copy) d) Copy this message and paste to e-mail Sorry about this everybody, it was passed on to me by a friend who it was passed on to her by a friend.  This is not hard to get rid of but you have to be sure you do it right. Sorry guys! Bev and Jack Lavell I found it on my C drive Emmitt McClendon

Hello everyone, Yes this is a true virus, but Rootsweb is bouncing all emails to this list that have the virus attached. I have received at least 10 bounces this morning. My virus scanner picked it up last week and deleted it. If you catch the virus it is not through this list. I agree with Laura, lets keep this list for genealogy only. Thank you for listening, Carol Spenader Clinton County Rootsweb List Administrator ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stan/Kat" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 10:20 AM Subject: Re: [ILCLINTON] teddy bear virus > This is a HOAX that jdbgmgr.exe is something that you need on your > computer!!!! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 9:55 AM > Subject: [ILCLINTON] teddy bear virus > > > > Charlie just mailed this to me and I am doing what he told me and I did > find > > this teddy bear thing and I removed it. I hope I haven't done anything I > > shouldn't have. You all know I am a little bit computer illiterate. Mine > > was under my C drive. > > > > Thanks, Mary > > > > > > I just received this message from a fellow subscriber to a mailing list, > and > > did in fact find the virus in my system, which I have since removed. > > I am very sorry for the inconvenience to each of you! > > Charles LaRobardier > > > > Hi everybody, > > > > I am really sorry to send you this but it seems that I was infected by a > > nasty virus. Since this was in my computer and it attaches itself to all > > addresses in my address book, it is also on yours. This was inadvertently > > sent to me by a friend because it was in her computer. > > > > The virus (called jdbgmgr.exe) is not detected by Nortoon or McAfee > > anitvirus systems. The virus sits quietly for 14 days before damaging the > > system. It is sent automatically by messenger and by the address book, > > whether or not you sent an e-mail to your contacts. > > > > Here's how to check for the virus and how to get rid of it: > > > > 1. go to start, find or search option. > > 2. in the file folder option, type the name jdbgmgr.exe > > 3. be sure you search you C: drive and all subfolders and any other drives > > you may have > > 4. click "find now" > > 5. the virus has a Teddy Bear icon with name jdbgmgr.exe DO NOT OPEN IT! > > 6. go to edit (on the menu bar) and choose "select all" to highlight the > > file without opening it > > 7. now go to file (on the menu bar) and select delete. It will then go to > > the Recycle Bin > > 8. IF YOU FIND THE VIRUS YOU MUST CONTACT ALL THE PEOPLE IN YOUR ADDRESS > > BOOK, SO THEY CAN ERADICATE IT IN THEIR OWN ADDRESS BOOKS > > To do This: > > a) Open a new e-mail message > > b) Click the icon of the address book next to the "TO" > > c) Highlight every name and add to "BCC" (which means blind copy) > > d) Copy this message and paste to e-mail > > > > Sorry about this everybody, it was passed on to me by a friend who it was > > passed on to her by a friend. This is not hard to get rid of but you have > > to be sure you do it right. > > > > Sorry guys! > > > > Bev and Jack Lavell > > > > I found it on my C drive > > > > Emmitt McClendon > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > --- > > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Netwitz. Are your virus definitions up > to date?] > > > > > > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Netwitz. Are your virus definitions up to date?] > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

This is a HOAX that jdbgmgr.exe is something that you need on your computer!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 9:55 AM Subject: [ILCLINTON] teddy bear virus > Charlie just mailed this to me and I am doing what he told me and I did find > this teddy bear thing and I removed it. I hope I haven't done anything I > shouldn't have. You all know I am a little bit computer illiterate. Mine > was under my C drive. > > Thanks, Mary > > > I just received this message from a fellow subscriber to a mailing list, and > did in fact find the virus in my system, which I have since removed. > I am very sorry for the inconvenience to each of you! > Charles LaRobardier > > Hi everybody, > > I am really sorry to send you this but it seems that I was infected by a > nasty virus. Since this was in my computer and it attaches itself to all > addresses in my address book, it is also on yours. This was inadvertently > sent to me by a friend because it was in her computer. > > The virus (called jdbgmgr.exe) is not detected by Nortoon or McAfee > anitvirus systems. The virus sits quietly for 14 days before damaging the > system. It is sent automatically by messenger and by the address book, > whether or not you sent an e-mail to your contacts. > > Here's how to check for the virus and how to get rid of it: > > 1. go to start, find or search option. > 2. in the file folder option, type the name jdbgmgr.exe > 3. be sure you search you C: drive and all subfolders and any other drives > you may have > 4. click "find now" > 5. the virus has a Teddy Bear icon with name jdbgmgr.exe DO NOT OPEN IT! > 6. go to edit (on the menu bar) and choose "select all" to highlight the > file without opening it > 7. now go to file (on the menu bar) and select delete. It will then go to > the Recycle Bin > 8. IF YOU FIND THE VIRUS YOU MUST CONTACT ALL THE PEOPLE IN YOUR ADDRESS > BOOK, SO THEY CAN ERADICATE IT IN THEIR OWN ADDRESS BOOKS > To do This: > a) Open a new e-mail message > b) Click the icon of the address book next to the "TO" > c) Highlight every name and add to "BCC" (which means blind copy) > d) Copy this message and paste to e-mail > > Sorry about this everybody, it was passed on to me by a friend who it was > passed on to her by a friend. This is not hard to get rid of but you have > to be sure you do it right. > > Sorry guys! > > Bev and Jack Lavell > > I found it on my C drive > > Emmitt McClendon > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Netwitz. Are your virus definitions up to date?] > > --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Netwitz. Are your virus definitions up to date?]

Charlie just mailed this to me and I am doing what he told me and I did find this teddy bear thing and I removed it. I hope I haven't done anything I shouldn't have. You all know I am a little bit computer illiterate. Mine was under my C drive. Thanks, Mary I just received this message from a fellow subscriber to a mailing list, and did in fact find the virus in my system, which I have since removed. I am very sorry for the inconvenience to each of you! Charles LaRobardier Hi everybody, I am really sorry to send you this but it seems that I was infected by a nasty virus. Since this was in my computer and it attaches itself to all addresses in my address book, it is also on yours. This was inadvertently sent to me by a friend because it was in her computer. The virus (called jdbgmgr.exe) is not detected by Nortoon or McAfee anitvirus systems. The virus sits quietly for 14 days before damaging the system. It is sent automatically by messenger and by the address book, whether or not you sent an e-mail to your contacts. Here's how to check for the virus and how to get rid of it: 1. go to start, find or search option. 2. in the file folder option, type the name jdbgmgr.exe 3. be sure you search you C: drive and all subfolders and any other drives you may have 4. click "find now" 5. the virus has a Teddy Bear icon with name jdbgmgr.exe DO NOT OPEN IT! 6. go to edit (on the menu bar) and choose "select all" to highlight the file without opening it 7. now go to file (on the menu bar) and select delete. It will then go to the Recycle Bin 8. IF YOU FIND THE VIRUS YOU MUST CONTACT ALL THE PEOPLE IN YOUR ADDRESS BOOK, SO THEY CAN ERADICATE IT IN THEIR OWN ADDRESS BOOKS To do This: a) Open a new e-mail message b) Click the icon of the address book next to the "TO" c) Highlight every name and add to "BCC" (which means blind copy) d) Copy this message and paste to e-mail Sorry about this everybody, it was passed on to me by a friend who it was passed on to her by a friend. This is not hard to get rid of but you have to be sure you do it right. Sorry guys! Bev and Jack Lavell

Immigrants in Illinois history lesson. http://www.lib.niu.edu/ipo/iht519815.html

Due to the fact that many people may have relatives who once served in the Army and may have spent time at the Jefferson Barracks facility I am passing along some interesting information from Scott Williams with his permission. In a message dated 7/20/03 12:23:23 AM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Just uploaded some newly discovered aerial photography over Jefferson > Barracks dating back to the 1920s or early 1930s. These were probably shot from > U.S. Army biplanes, but perhaps dirigibles. I have another photo of a squadron > of Army biplanes flying over Forest Park, I'll upload it at another time. > > Also have some circa WWI postcards featuring soldiers at Jefferson Barracks. > http://www.usgennet.org/usa/mo/county/stlouis/jb/views.htm > > Scott K. Williams, > > >

If you are starting to receive some funeral homes who no longer provide you with information the following article is probably the reason why. The National Funeral Directors Association published this in January 2001 as a result of our sue happy society. Funeral Homes who have provided information in the past are now closing their books to almost everyone. SCI Corporation/Dignity has followed this for a couple of years. ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// GUARD AGAINST ILLEGAL DISCLOSURE OF FAMILY CONFIDENCES By: Scott Gilligen, NFDA General Counsel "One of the fastest growing hobbies in the United States is genealogy. Spurred on by Internet web sites such as familysearch.org offered by the Mormon church and genealogy.com. Americans have unprecedented access to records from which they can research the roots of their own family trees. "Of course, one of the best sources of local history for families is the funeral home. Many funeral homes have been in business for several generations and normally do not discard records or files of the individual they have served. Therefore, for many families, the funeral home is one of the primary sources for locating local roots of a family tree. "How should a funeral director respond when an individual requests access to the funeral home's files to do genealogy research? Should the funeral home permit members of the public to review all of the funeral home's files? Should that review be limited only to the files of deceased family members of the individual who is doing the research? If access is limited to family members, how does the funeral home determine who is and who is not a "family member"? For example, how may degrees of kinship will the funeral home permit the individual to search? "Beyond the inconvenience of having individuals rooting through funeral home files and the danger that an unscrupulous individual may misappropriate records from the files, the funeral home faces a significant legal liability when it permits public access to its records. "To protect against possible violations or legal action we recommend that funeral homes not permit genealogy researchers unlimited access to their records and files. This advisory extends even to requests by individuals to examine files of their own family. It is impossible for a funeral director to determine whether a confidence communication to funeral home personnel is a secret known throughout the family. "Funeral home files are the personal property of the funeral home. Family members do not have the right to review those files as they might with their own personal medical records. Therefore, absent a subpoena or other court order mandating disclosure of the files, the funeral home has a legal right to deny access to those records, even to family members. "Funeral homes that are concerned that genealogists will be offended by a policy prohibiting any examination of funeral home records might want to assemble an alphabetical compilation of the obituaries of the persons they have served. Since an obituary has been published, it becomes part of the public domain. Therefore, there is no liability to allowing a genealogist to peruse through a binder containing copies of all of the obituaries of the individuals the funeral home has served." Reprint from the NADA Magazine January 2001 ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// ////////////// Bill Surnames of Interest: BUCHHOLZ anywhere -BECKMANN-CASSIDY-DeL0NJAY-DREES-MOSBACHER-NENTWIG-NEUTZLER-PONCOT-RENSIN G-STAUDER-STIEFFERMANN

Dorothy, Hi. Could you kindly post the phone number for the O'Fallon FHC? I know that sometimes the summer hours change. I would like to visit there perhaps on Aug.1. Thank you! Darlene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy Falk" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 6:19 PM Subject: Re: [ILCLINTON] free death cert question > Hi, Pam, > > The days of the freebies are gone. Dog gone it. You have several ways to > chose from now: > > The State of Illinois at > http://www2.sos.state.il.us/GenealogyMWeb/refform.html If I'm reading it > correctly, looks like the pricing has changed again effective 1 Jul 2003. > Maybe it's free for Illinois residents again and maybe it's $10 for two > certificates for non-Illnois residents. Good time to have Illinois > relatives. Be sure to read that "When may I expect a response to my > request". They are now filling August 2002 requests. They only have info > after 1916 when the laws changed. > > If you don't want to wait a year, and if the death date is between 1878 and > 1916, and if you only want a copy of the death register pages, you could try > the IRAD at http://www.sos.state.il.us/departments/archives/irad/siumap.html > > Those same death registers have been microfilmed by the Church of Later Day > Saints and can be rented at any Family History Center worldwide. There is a > copy at the O'Fallon, IL FHC. > http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?dis > play=topicdetails&subject=384062&subject_disp=Illinois,_Clinton_-_Vital_reco > rds&columns=*,180,0 > If that doesn't work, let me know. The registers do not normally list > parents' names. > > If you only want the register information, and if there are just a couple of > them, and if they are in the FHC microfilm range, I could look that > information up for you on my next trip to the FHC. > > You can get a copy of the death certificate, or a copy of the register from > the Clinton County Clerk in Carlyle > http://www.clintonco.org/clerk_county.htm and then go to Genealogy. We > have the unproofed index of the 1877 to 1903 registers at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilclint2/deathrec/index.htm > > There are a couple of people who make weekly trips to the Springfield > archives and offer to look up the info for you. Cost ranges from $3 to $8 > for their service. I don't have an email address right now, but if you want > one, just ask. > > We'll update our web page to reflect this. > > Dorothy > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 4:34 PM > Subject: [ILCLINTON] free death cert question > > > > Does any one know the correct e-mail address for the free Illinois death > > certificates? > > > > Thanks, > > Pam > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Would like to see this one please: SHINN, J. Saml. page 93, record # 1192 Thanks Sid

Their number is 618-632-0210. Usually they are opened from 9 to 3 and from 6 to 9 on Tue, Wed & Thur. and from 10 to 2 on Sat. They are closed on Fridays, guess that takes care of your Aug 1. Here's an old copy-and-paste of the Clinton County films that are there (more or less) but it's still reasonably accurate: ====================== Since we can't look at the records in the Carlyle Court House for the time being, the following rolls of microfilm are at the O'Fallon, Illinois Family History Center "indefinitely". All can also be ordered from Salt Lake City thru any FHC in the world. There is more here than we'll be able to see in Carlyle even when the law gets changed. ** CCHS/BCGS transcribed, copies in Carlyle Library and in CCHS. ***Included in Illinois Marriage Data Base online (as of 2 Apr 2001) Birth index (a) 1877-1902 & (b) index 1903-1915 and Births (c) Bk 1 -1877-1884 Film # 1007029 Births - Volumes 2 and 3 - 1884 to 1903 - Film # 1007030. About 3.5 years transcribed Births - Volume 4 - 1903 to 1907 - Film # 1007031 Births - Volume 5 - 1907 to 1911 - Film # 1007032 Births - Volume 6 - 1910 to 1915 - Film # 1007033 Delayed Birth index 1874 - 1941 - Film # 1007034, Volume 1 births - All "A' s" grouped together by date of request, then blank page before next letter. Births - Delayed - V 1a - Film # 1007035 - 1874 - 1915 - Certificates H to Y Births - Delayed - V2 - Film # 1007036 - 1874 - 1915 - Certificates N - Z. Births - Delayed - V2a - Original Birth Certificates not in birth ledgers - 1889 - 1898 - Film # 1007037 - (2) Certificates 1910 - 1915 (b) Index 1896 - 1897 (3) 1898 (4) nurses' certificates Births - Still births - 1878 - 1911 - See "Deaths" below - Film # 1007039 Deaths - Index and Deaths - 1877 - 1915 - (1) Index -1877 - 1902 (2) Index 1903 - 1915 (3) Vol I deaths 1877 - 1903 (4) Vol 2 deaths 1903 - 1915 - Film # 1007038 Deaths - Index and Deaths - Dec 1877 - early 1903 - CCHS Deaths - 1910 - 1915 and Stillbirths 1878 - 1911 - Vol 3 1910 - 1915 (2) Still births 1878 - Jun 1902 - In sequence by date - Film # 1007039 Death microfiche - Illinois deaths 1916 - 1938 - # 6016862 Marriages - Index 1874-1937 plus ***Marriages 1825-1856 - (a) Index 1848 - 1856 by groom (b) by bride (c) 1825 - 1848 Book 1 (d) Book 3, 1848 - 1856 - Film # 1007040 All in state data base, could be misspelled. Some on line in Clinton. Marriages, V 1 and 2a - (a) 1857-1872 and (b)1856-1873 - limited information - Film # 1007041 Online Marriages, V 1, 3 - 1874-1913 - (1) Vol 1 1874 - 1898 (2) Vol 3 1898 - 1913 - Film # 1007042 - Transcribed - Online Marriages - Volume 4 - 1913-1937 - Starts with Register licenses #462. Film # 1007043 - Marriage Applications, V2 and 3 - 1886-1892 - sorted by date- might have the signatures of the bride and groom - Film # 1009006 Information on line Marriage Applications, (a) V4 1895-1899 and (b) Vol 6 1901-Oct 1903 (c) Vol 7 Nov 1903 - 1906 - Film # 1009007 Marriage Applications, V 8-10, 1905-1914 - Might have signature of applicants - Film # 1009008 Naturalizations - 1857-1900 - All A's together, etc. Index is online. Film # 1007842 Naturalizations - 1880-1904 - ditto - Film # 1007843 Census - Transcribed 1870, 1880 and 1900 - Film 1750857 - Item 4, 5, and 7 - Transcribed copies available from Bond Co. Historical Society World War I Selective Service System - Draft records alphabetical A-W on # 1504090 and X-Z on # 1504099. These microfilms may be viewed at: Family History Center, 255 Fairwood Hills Road O'Fallon, IL, Phone: (618) 632-0210 Hours: T-Th 9am-3pm, 6-9pm; Sat 10am-2pm. Directions from Carlyle to O'Fallon: Take Route 50 West for about 35 miles. At the 3rd stoplight in O'Fallon, at Highway 50 and Lincoln Ave., turn right (north) past Amoco, go 1.55 miles, to the bottom of a double dip in the road, over a tiny bridge, there is another church on the left, turn left on Fairwood Hills Road. Go about 4 blocks in the residential subdivision, go past the Church of Later Day Saints, turn into that parking lot. You'll see the FHC door, if it's locked, push buzzer to enter. The FHC library is to the left after you enter. Clinton County on the Internet: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilclint2/ These are additional Clinton County microfilms available through FHCs worldwide but not currently at the O'Fallon FHC: Estate files, box 174-175, Film 1008940 Estate files, box 153-155, Film 1008941 Estate files, box 150-152, Film 1008942 Estate files, box 142, 144, 148, Film 1008943 Estate files, box 141, Film 1007832 Estate files, box 139-140 Film 1007833 Estate files, box 136, 138 Film 1007834 Estate files, box 128-129, 134 Film 1007835 Estate files, box 121, 123, 126 Film 1007836 Estate files, box 102, 110, 115, 119 Film 1007837 Estate files, box 95, 97-99 Film 1007838 Wills - 3 vol - 1857-1914 Film 1007839 Wills - 1897-1907 Film 1007840 Wills - 3 vol - 1907-1928 Film 1007841 Probate records - 3 vol - 1825-1839 Film 1009009 Items 2-4 Probate records - 2 vol - D-E 1839-1847 Film 1004656 Probate records - 1849 Film 1004658 Probate records - 1849-1852 Film 1004659 Probate records - 1852-1855 Film 1008936 Probate records - 1855-1857 Film 1008937 Probate records - 1862-1864 Film 1008938 Probate journal - 1867-1875 Film 1008938 Appraisements & sale bills 1864-1869 Film 1008938 Probate records - 2 vol 1873-1899 Film 1008939 CCHS Quarterlies Vols. 1-10 Film 1927808 Items 4-43 CCHS Quarterlies Vols. 10 (again)-12 Film 1927932 Items 1-12 St. John's UCC Records, Breese - 1859 - 1903 - Film 1876922 St. John's UCC Records, Trenton - 1889 - 1949 - Film 1976581 - Item 2 Shattuc - "In My Father's House" by Ruth Nighswander - Film 1007929, Item 7 ----- Original Message ----- From: " Darlene Burzynski" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [ILCLINTON] free death cert question > Dorothy, > Hi. Could you kindly post the phone number for the O'Fallon FHC? I know that > sometimes the summer hours change. I would like to visit there perhaps on > Aug.1. > Thank you! > Darlene > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dorothy Falk" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 6:19 PM > Subject: Re: [ILCLINTON] free death cert question > > > > Hi, Pam, > > > > The days of the freebies are gone. Dog gone it. You have several ways to > > chose from now: > > > > The State of Illinois at > > http://www2.sos.state.il.us/GenealogyMWeb/refform.html If I'm reading it > > correctly, looks like the pricing has changed again effective 1 Jul 2003. > > Maybe it's free for Illinois residents again and maybe it's $10 for two > > certificates for non-Illnois residents. Good time to have Illinois > > relatives. Be sure to read that "When may I expect a response to my > > request". They are now filling August 2002 requests. They only have info > > after 1916 when the laws changed. > > > > If you don't want to wait a year, and if the death date is between 1878 > and > > 1916, and if you only want a copy of the death register pages, you could > try > > the IRAD at > http://www.sos.state.il.us/departments/archives/irad/siumap.html > > > > Those same death registers have been microfilmed by the Church of Later > Day > > Saints and can be rented at any Family History Center worldwide. There is > a > > copy at the O'Fallon, IL FHC. > > > http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?dis > > > play=topicdetails&subject=384062&subject_disp=Illinois,_Clinton_-_Vital_reco > > rds&columns=*,180,0 > > If that doesn't work, let me know. The registers do not normally list > > parents' names. > > > > If you only want the register information, and if there are just a couple > of > > them, and if they are in the FHC microfilm range, I could look that > > information up for you on my next trip to the FHC. > > > > You can get a copy of the death certificate, or a copy of the register > from > > the Clinton County Clerk in Carlyle > > http://www.clintonco.org/clerk_county.htm and then go to Genealogy. We > > have the unproofed index of the 1877 to 1903 registers at > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilclint2/deathrec/index.htm > > > > There are a couple of people who make weekly trips to the Springfield > > archives and offer to look up the info for you. Cost ranges from $3 to $8 > > for their service. I don't have an email address right now, but if you > want > > one, just ask. > > > > We'll update our web page to reflect this. > > > > Dorothy > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 4:34 PM > > Subject: [ILCLINTON] free death cert question > > > > > > > Does any one know the correct e-mail address for the free Illinois death > > > certificates? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Pam > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Does any one know the correct e-mail address for the free Illinois death certificates? Thanks, Pam

Hi, Pam, The days of the freebies are gone. Dog gone it. You have several ways to chose from now: The State of Illinois at http://www2.sos.state.il.us/GenealogyMWeb/refform.html If I'm reading it correctly, looks like the pricing has changed again effective 1 Jul 2003. Maybe it's free for Illinois residents again and maybe it's $10 for two certificates for non-Illnois residents. Good time to have Illinois relatives. Be sure to read that "When may I expect a response to my request". They are now filling August 2002 requests. They only have info after 1916 when the laws changed. If you don't want to wait a year, and if the death date is between 1878 and 1916, and if you only want a copy of the death register pages, you could try the IRAD at http://www.sos.state.il.us/departments/archives/irad/siumap.html Those same death registers have been microfilmed by the Church of Later Day Saints and can be rented at any Family History Center worldwide. There is a copy at the O'Fallon, IL FHC. http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?dis play=topicdetails&subject=384062&subject_disp=Illinois,_Clinton_-_Vital_reco rds&columns=*,180,0 If that doesn't work, let me know. The registers do not normally list parents' names. If you only want the register information, and if there are just a couple of them, and if they are in the FHC microfilm range, I could look that information up for you on my next trip to the FHC. You can get a copy of the death certificate, or a copy of the register from the Clinton County Clerk in Carlyle http://www.clintonco.org/clerk_county.htm and then go to Genealogy. We have the unproofed index of the 1877 to 1903 registers at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilclint2/deathrec/index.htm There are a couple of people who make weekly trips to the Springfield archives and offer to look up the info for you. Cost ranges from $3 to $8 for their service. I don't have an email address right now, but if you want one, just ask. We'll update our web page to reflect this. Dorothy ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 4:34 PM Subject: [ILCLINTON] free death cert question > Does any one know the correct e-mail address for the free Illinois death > certificates? > > Thanks, > Pam > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hi. My computer is up and running again. Unfortunately, I've lost all previous e-mails. I had a list of wills to get for a gentleman who was researching Klostermann and it's gone. So, please e-mail me with your list again. Carol & Dorothy: I plan on finishing up the census in the next week too. :-) Melody

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: VOSS Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ig.2ADE/167 Message Board Post: Would anyone know of a link to any Clinton County, Ill. (or surrounding area) orphanages that may have existed prior to 1930?Thanks!! "William Voss~~Illinois–Ohio"http://members.tripod.com/~vossdawg/index-2.html

Thank you so much for the information on Elizabeth and Frederick Ratermann's death. Phyllis (Kues) Stroud

In a message dated 7/12/03 7:39:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Elizabeth Ratermann Pg 195, Record 2508 In IL 42 years, widow, born Germany, died 27 Dec 1893 in Brese Twp at age 78 of senility; buried St Dominic Catholic Church 30 Dec. > > Frederick Ratermann Pg 122, Record 1567 In IL 25 Years, married, farmer, Born Germany, died 26 May 1884 in Breese Precinct at age 62 of heart disease; buried St Dominic Cem on 28 May

Trying to find out what was said in the death record index about the following people: Elizabeth Ratermann Pg 195, Record 2508 Frederick Ratermann Pg 122, Record 1567 Phyllis (Kues) Stroud

If there is anyone on this List that is researching Lipsmeiers, please contact Gloria at [email protected] She is not researching that name but she does have an interesting tidbit for you.

Hi Donna; I would love to share whatever information I have. It sounds like we could have some of the same Middleton's. I know that John Middleton lived around Ripley and Butler Co., MO. He was in the Amy. He married a girl named Sarah Rhodes in 1924 in Butler Co., A far as I know, there were no children, but that is not a positive. He moved to New Orleans, LA around 1956 and he lived there until he died on August 25, 1966. He was Police Officer in New Orleans. He also worked for the Railroad at one time. My grandfather, Willis Brown, his half brother worked for the St Louis-Frisco Railroad, so he may have worked for that one too. I am just getting going on the Middleton's. I have Armypapers for him and his marriage license to Sarah. John also has a daughter who lives in ILL, and grandkids who live there. On his death certificate and his Army papers,it said that he was divorced. I don't know if he was ever married again. He was living with a woman named Annie there in New Orleans the year before he died according to a letter I have that he wrote my grandfather. I have pictures of him also. He is buried in Hudson National Cemetery in Baton Rouge, LA. On the 1900 census, Charles and Elizabeth Middleton are living in Ripley Co., MO. AndJohn was born in Doniphan. On the 1910 census, they and John and William Brown, are living in Poplar Bluff, Butler Co., MO. On the 1920 census, there is only Elizabeth, William and John. So I am assuming that Charles died in between 1910 and 1920. I am very interested in seeing what you have. Thanks a lot Maybe a Cousin? Charlotte Charlotte ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Davis" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [ILCLINTON] > I have a greatgreataunt Ruth Ann FULTON CLARK MIDDLETON who was married to > Joel Middleton and lived in Iuka, Marion Co., IL. She had a daughter, > Rebecca Clark who lived with her well into her thirties. Then in 1880 she > married a Charles MIDDLETON and moved to TX. I found Rebecca and Edgar > Middleton in a TX cemetery listing. She had died in 1881, and Edgar had > died soon after. Ruth Ann and Joel had a son, Josephus and many of this > Middleton line lived in MO. I am thinking that this may be your line of > Middletons as well. I have a little more about this line that I can share > if you want it. Donna > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Christensen" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 2:35 PM > Subject: [ILCLINTON] > > > > I am looking for information on the James Monroe Biswell family that lived > in the Monroe, Clinton Co., Area He married a Susan Jones on May 21,1856 In > Monroe Co., ILL. They had 9 children. Their daughter Elizabeth (Lizzie) > Biswell is my great grandmother. I am trying to find information about her > and my grandfather, William (Willis/Bill) Brown. Specifically, when and > where they were married. They had a son Named Archie, who died the end of > March 1899. A son, Elmer James, a daughter, Cora Jane, and my grandfather > William (Willis) McKinley Brown. I have been told by a family member that > Bill Brown died before my grandfather was born in 1895. My grandfather was > born in Pocahontas, Randolph Co., AR. > > Lizzie remarried to a Charles Josephus Middleton on Feb. 15, 1899 in > Ripley Co., MO. They had one son, John Wesley Middleton, born in > Donathan/Doniphan, Ripley co., MO on July 29, 1900. He was my great uncle. I > would appreciate anything on them that I can get. Thanks > > Charlotte McClain Christensen > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >