Gloria, Dorothy, Carol! I am SOOO proud of you. But then again, I always am! OH that all counties had such dedicated volunteers!

Greetings, Everyone! Yes, as promised and much earlier than expected (Thanks, Dorothy & Carol!), here it is! In Sugar Creek Township, Aviston's St. Francis Cemetery. This is a great cemetery; very well maintained with lots of old stones! Oh, boy, does it ever have lots of old stones! Here is the link: [Copy and paste if the link doesn't work] Note: The search engine in the cemetery section won't work until tomorrow (10 Sep 2003). <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilclint2/cemetery/sugarcreek/stfrancis.htm">http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilclint2/cemetery/sugarcreek/stfrancis.htm</A> To quote Dorothy - And it's lovely. We don't mind saying so ourselves. Enjoy! We sure had fun reading it but then, we always do. Gloria

Gloria, I will keep watching for the Aviston data, appreciate all your work. Bill Surnames of Interest: BUCHHOLZ anywhere -BECKMANN-CASSIDY-DeL0NJAY-DREES-MOSBACHER-NENTWIG-NEUTZLER-PONCOT-RENSIN G-STAUDER-STIEFFERMANN ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

Hi Tracy, Been a while since our last contact. You are correct my connection is through the RENSING/TOENNIES marriage. Bill ______________________________ Surnames of Interest: BUCHHOLZ anywhere -BECKMANN-CASSIDY-DeL0NJAY-DREES-MOSBACHER-NENTWIG-NEUTZLER-PONCOT-RENSIN G-STAUDER-STIEFFERMANN ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

Paul, Thanks for the various HILMES bits and pieces, will work them in. Bill Surnames of Interest: BUCHHOLZ anywhere -BECKMANN-CASSIDY-DeL0NJAY-DREES-MOSBACHER-NENTWIG-NEUTZLER-PONCOT-RENSIN G-STAUDER-STIEFFERMANN ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

I am decended from a William Walker, born approximately 1800 in Georgia. One of his wives was Frances Doggett I have his daughter Elizabeth's death certificate which supports this information. Elizabeth was born in 1829 in Clinton County and died 1920 in Beaucoup Washington County Illinois. I believe William to be the William Walker in the 1820, 1830, and 1840 Clinton county Censuses. I have not been able to find William or Frances in the 1850 Census. Elizabeth is married to a George W. Walker by 1850 and living in Washington County. Does anyone have more information on William and/or Frances. Brett D. Weems IS&S LGR Implementation Phone 517-885-7282 Cell 517-719-3534 Fax 517-885-7299

In a message dated 9/7/03 8:59:39 AM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > This may be of interest to you and other Hilmes searchers: > > Here's a little teaser from St. Francis Cemetery in Aviston, Clinton, IL. Lots of other great names too. Stay tuned. Soon to be showing on your favorite List. Enjoy! Gloria (S/w means shares stone with. The * means the stone is written in German.) A 10 54 HILMES, Heinrich ---- 18 Oct 1921 S/w Katharina. Here rests in God. Age 83y. Father. * A 10 53 HILMES, Katharina ---- 24 Sep 1918 S/w Heinrich. Here rests in God. Age 73y. Mother. *

In a message dated 9/6/03 1:16:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Anna Maria Geers (Gehrs) sp?? b. Sept 28, 1836 d. Mar 11, 1906 > Just an FYI .... Gehrs and Geers are generally same family. I have a few in my line and have seen the name spelled both ways for them.

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Bill, I'm also interested HILMES and Johan Heinrich (b. 1814) is a possible unproven brother of Maria Anna Hilmes, born circa 1808, Hanover and deceased by 1880. Maria Anna Hilmes' second marriage at St. Boniface Church, Germantown, in April 1849 to the widower Bernard Henry WALLER, is witnessed by Elisabeth Hilmes, believed to be the wife of Johan Heinrich. The other witness is Joannes Bernard Waller. I do not know the relationship between these WALLERs and Clemens Waller although Bernard Henry Waller is not believed to have had any children. In the 1850 census, as transcribed on the Clinton Co. website, the family of Henry HILMERS consists of : Hilmers Henry (30), Catharine (30), John (13), Mary (60), OLTENS, Frederick, 60 Viewing the actual census record, Frederick appears as OTTENS. The family immediately following, recorded as WALLIS is the family of Henry Waller and his wife Mary Ann, 42, nee Hilmes. In the 1860 Clinton County census p. 839, Henry HILLMAR (44) is recorded with his wife Caroline (40) and children Theodore (9), Theresa (9) and Anna (6). Maria Anna Hilmes (as Wallers) appears on the preceeding page, age given as 52. Maria Anna Hilmes' first marriage, to Bernard Lawrence EILERS, born Dorf Lengerich, Hanover in 1810, preceeded their emigration to the US, probably on the Ship Rockall in late Dec. 1846. There is additional information for Anna Theresa Hilmes (b. 1829) listed on the Emslander website (www.emslanders.com) including her marriage to Herman Bernard Richter and the names of her children. Bill, is your RENSING connection through TOENNIES? Tracy Lewis Anchorage, AK t In a message dated 9/7/03 5:59:39 AM Alaskan Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Subj: [ILCLINTON] Re: Researching Rehkemper, Hilmes, Tebbe, Middeke, Hagen > Date: 9/7/03 5:59:39 AM Alaskan Daylight Time > From: <A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A> > Reply-to: <A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A> > To: <A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A> > Sent from the Internet > > > > Marsha, > > This may be of interest to you and other Hilmes searchers: > > FAMILY HISTORY > "Johan Heinrich Hilmes was born April 3, 1814 in the kingdom of Hanover > and settled in this country in 1838, on Section 18, Germantown Township, > Clinton County, Illinois. This was south east of the town of Hanover, > which was later renamed Germantown. He probably had few problems > adjusting to his new home because most of the people in this area were > from the same section of Germany, perhaps even knew each other in the old > country, and most spoke low german. > "The original size of his homestead is not known but in 1892 it was 89 > acres. > "Elizabeth Ottens was his first wife. She came from Prussia and settled > in Illinois two years before John Henry. She died in 1858 after bearing > at least two children; Theodore around 1851 and Anna about 1854. > "One mystery still unsolved is how Elizabeth is related to Frederick > Ottens who is listed as one of the original 'proprietors' of the town of > Hanover. > "Caroline Buettman, the second wife, was born in the kingdom of Hanover > on November 23, 1829. She came to this country in 1860 and gave birth to > Bernard Hilmes on November 12 of that same year. There was at least one > other child Christina born about 1862. Caroline died July 15, 1876. > "From all evidence, J. H. Hilmes probably had a twin brother Johan > Gerhard, who was born and died on April 3, 1814. > "J.H. Hilmes is listed as one of the early settlers in "History of Marion > and Clinton Counties, Illinois" 1881 and is described as a farmer and > stock raiser in the list of patrons for the book. > "In the census of 1870 the name was misspelled 'Hilmas'. John Henry is 55 > and lists his real estate value at $4,000 and the value of his personal > goods as $1,000. His wife's name is written 'Catharina' and listed as 41 > and a housekeeper. Theodore is age 19, Anna is age 16, Berhard (sic) is > age 9 and Christnia (sic) is age 8. There is also listed a 29 year old > laborer from Hanover named H. H. Rikindag. > "In the census of 1880 J. Henry is a retired farmer aged 66 and Bernard > Hilmes is a 19 year old laborer on the Henry Albers farm about a mile > north of the family farm. Chri. Hilmes is listed as a 17 year old > servant at the Waller's. > Note: Bernard asked Katarina Waller to be one of the baptism sponsors for > his son Bernard. Kahtarina and Klemens Waller were sponsors for > Caroline, and Klemens was a sponsor for Frank Clemns Hilmes. > "J. H. died May 27, 1896 but lived long enough to see his son Bernard > married to Catherine Toennies on March 3, 1886 when he was 25 and she was > 20 years old. > "Catherine was born January 20, 1866 to Gerhard Albert Toennies and his > wife Agnes nee Wiegmann. Gerhard was born September 7, 1827 and died May > 27, 1896. Agnes was born November 25, 1838 and died February 24, 1882. > So neither mother lived to see her child married. > "Caterine had a least one sister Mary Eilerman (2/14/1868-12/20/1920) and > three brothers Herman Toennies (10/16/1855-5/1/1929), George Toennies and > Joseph Toennies. > "Bernard and Catherine's 55 years of marriage produced 10 children before > he died on April 26, 1930. Catherine lived until December 23, 1943. > .....and that was just the beginning' > BILL AND CHRIS KEHL, 30 Appletree Lane, Belleville, Il. 62221, > (618)233-0002 > St. Bernard Cem., Albers, IL > Son: IN MEMORY OF > BERNARD HILMES > JUNE 6, 1895 > JAN. 29, 1935 > FATHER > This is another BERNARD HILMES: > I don't have a lot of information on my Hilmes relatives. I have Agnes > Thersia Hilmes born May 15 1829 in Hanover Germany. She married Herman > Bernard Richter on May 2 1854 in Clinton Co. IL. Her parents were Bernard > Albert Hilmes and Adel Uhlen. I don't have any information on children. > Let me know if anything fits. > Sandy Plancich [email protected] > My interest in the family lies in how they connect with the RENSING > family. > Bill > Surnames of Interest: BUCHHOLZ anywhere > -BECKMANN-CASSIDY-DeL0NJAY-DREES-MOSBACHER-NENTWIG-NEUTZLER-PONCOT-RENSIN > G-STAUDER-STIEFFERMANN >

Dear Marsha, Bill, and other Hilmes researchers, Here are the Hilmes entries I found while researching the Lager family in the Bistumarchiv Osnabrück (BAOS) a few years ago. Clemens August Gösse, Langen, born 22 Jan 1869; parents: Johann Benedict Gösse & Maria Theresia Albers; [the record has this note:] married 24 Oct 1892[?, the year is difficult to decipher] Carolina Gesina Lager gennant Hilmes, Drope, gest. 28 Feb 1935[?, the year is difficult to decipher]. BAOS 04-08/104 Taufregister 1869-1882, fiche 1, 2-9 [These six records are for children of Gerardus Lager and Maria Elisabetha Hilmes:] Johannes Herm. Lager b. 5 Dec 1754 [parents:] Gerardo & Maria Elisabetha Hilmes; [godparents:] Gerardo Wilhelm Hilmes & Angela Vos BAOS 04-08/101 Taufer 1737-1776, fiche 2, 177 Johan. Herm. Lager, Lengerich, 74 d. 8 Mar 1829 BAOS 04-08/004 Sterbregister 1823-1830, Trauingen 1830, fiche 1, 31 Maria Elisabetha Lager b. 25 Jun 1757 [parents:] Gerardo & Maria Hilmes; [godparent:] Elisabetha Lager BAOS 04-08/101 Taufer 1737-1776, fiche 2, 195 Maria Elisab. Lager, Gersten, 35 d. 21 Feb 1792, Gersten BAOS 04-08/301 Sterbregister 1787-1814, fiche 1, 9 Gerardus Wilhelm Lager b. 29 Oct 1759 [parents:] Gerardus Lager & Maria Hilmes; [godparent:] Gerardo Vos BAOS 04-08/101 Taufer 1737-1776, fiche 2, 211 Gerhard Lager, cogn. Jager, Lengerich, 78 d. 9 Feb 1838, buried 14 Feb 1838 BAOS 04-08/302 Sterbregister 1831-1853, fiche 1, 79-25 Maria Adelheidis b. 29 Nov 1761 [parents:] Gerardo, Grote & Maria Lager; [godparent:] Adelheide Lager BAOS 04-08/101 Taufer 1737-1776, fiche 2, 224 Joannes Albertus b. 16 Jul 1766 [parents:] Gerardo & Maria Lager; [godparent:] Joanne Alberto Lager BAOS 04-08/101 Taufer 1737-1776, fiche 2, 336 Johann Albert Lager, 73 d. 1 Feb 1839, buried 4 Feb 1839 BAOS 04-08/302 Sterbregister 1831-1852, fiche 1, 97-16 Joannes Theodorus b. 19 May 1770 [parents:] Gerardo & Maria Laeger [Lager] BAOS 04-08/101 Taufer 1737-1776, fiche 3, 377 [the following entry is from a later generation:] Anna Maria Theresia Kühle, 58; b.c. 1812, acc. to death record d. 10 Oct 1870, buried 13 Oct 1870 [parents:] Bernard Hilmes & Margaretha Lager BAOS 04-08/304 Sterbregister 1870-1888 (bis 1875), fiche 1, 12-69 Good luck in your research! Paul Grass [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 10:53 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [ILCLINTON] Re: Researching Rehkemper, Hilmes, Tebbe, Middeke, Hagen Marsha, This may be of interest to you and other Hilmes searchers: FAMILY HISTORY "Johan Heinrich Hilmes was born April 3, 1814 in the kingdom of Hanover and settled in this country in 1838, on Section 18, Germantown Township, Clinton County, Illinois. This was south east of the town of Hanover, which was later renamed Germantown. He probably had few problems adjusting to his new home because most of the people in this area were from the same section of Germany, perhaps even knew each other in the old country, and most spoke low german. "The original size of his homestead is not known but in 1892 it was 89 acres. "Elizabeth Ottens was his first wife. She came from Prussia and settled in Illinois two years before John Henry. She died in 1858 after bearing at least two children; Theodore around 1851 and Anna about 1854. "One mystery still unsolved is how Elizabeth is related to Frederick Ottens who is listed as one of the original 'proprietors' of the town of Hanover. "Caroline Buettman, the second wife, was born in the kingdom of Hanover on November 23, 1829. She came to this country in 1860 and gave birth to Bernard Hilmes on November 12 of that same year. There was at least one other child Christina born about 1862. Caroline died July 15, 1876. "From all evidence, J. H. Hilmes probably had a twin brother Johan Gerhard, who was born and died on April 3, 1814. "J.H. Hilmes is listed as one of the early settlers in "History of Marion and Clinton Counties, Illinois" 1881 and is described as a farmer and stock raiser in the list of patrons for the book. "In the census of 1870 the name was misspelled 'Hilmas'. John Henry is 55 and lists his real estate value at $4,000 and the value of his personal goods as $1,000. His wife's name is written 'Catharina' and listed as 41 and a housekeeper. Theodore is age 19, Anna is age 16, Berhard (sic) is age 9 and Christnia (sic) is age 8. There is also listed a 29 year old laborer from Hanover named H. H. Rikindag. "In the census of 1880 J. Henry is a retired farmer aged 66 and Bernard Hilmes is a 19 year old laborer on the Henry Albers farm about a mile north of the family farm. Chri. Hilmes is listed as a 17 year old servant at the Waller's. Note: Bernard asked Katarina Waller to be one of the baptism sponsors for his son Bernard. Kahtarina and Klemens Waller were sponsors for Caroline, and Klemens was a sponsor for Frank Clemns Hilmes. "J. H. died May 27, 1896 but lived long enough to see his son Bernard married to Catherine Toennies on March 3, 1886 when he was 25 and she was 20 years old. "Catherine was born January 20, 1866 to Gerhard Albert Toennies and his wife Agnes nee Wiegmann. Gerhard was born September 7, 1827 and died May 27, 1896. Agnes was born November 25, 1838 and died February 24, 1882. So neither mother lived to see her child married. "Caterine had a least one sister Mary Eilerman (2/14/1868-12/20/1920) and three brothers Herman Toennies (10/16/1855-5/1/1929), George Toennies and Joseph Toennies. "Bernard and Catherine's 55 years of marriage produced 10 children before he died on April 26, 1930. Catherine lived until December 23, 1943. .....and that was just the beginning' BILL AND CHRIS KEHL, 30 Appletree Lane, Belleville, Il. 62221, (618)233-0002 St. Bernard Cem., Albers, IL Son: IN MEMORY OF BERNARD HILMES JUNE 6, 1895 JAN. 29, 1935 FATHER This is another BERNARD HILMES: I don't have a lot of information on my Hilmes relatives. I have Agnes Thersia Hilmes born May 15 1829 in Hanover Germany. She married Herman Bernard Richter on May 2 1854 in Clinton Co. IL. Her parents were Bernard Albert Hilmes and Adel Uhlen. I don't have any information on children. Let me know if anything fits. Sandy Plancich [email protected] My interest in the family lies in how they connect with the RENSING family. Bill Surnames of Interest: BUCHHOLZ anywhere -BECKMANN-CASSIDY-DeL0NJAY-DREES-MOSBACHER-NENTWIG-NEUTZLER-PONCOT-RENSIN G-STAUDER-STIEFFERMANN

Marsha, This may be of interest to you and other Hilmes searchers: FAMILY HISTORY "Johan Heinrich Hilmes was born April 3, 1814 in the kingdom of Hanover and settled in this country in 1838, on Section 18, Germantown Township, Clinton County, Illinois. This was south east of the town of Hanover, which was later renamed Germantown. He probably had few problems adjusting to his new home because most of the people in this area were from the same section of Germany, perhaps even knew each other in the old country, and most spoke low german. "The original size of his homestead is not known but in 1892 it was 89 acres. "Elizabeth Ottens was his first wife. She came from Prussia and settled in Illinois two years before John Henry. She died in 1858 after bearing at least two children; Theodore around 1851 and Anna about 1854. "One mystery still unsolved is how Elizabeth is related to Frederick Ottens who is listed as one of the original 'proprietors' of the town of Hanover. "Caroline Buettman, the second wife, was born in the kingdom of Hanover on November 23, 1829. She came to this country in 1860 and gave birth to Bernard Hilmes on November 12 of that same year. There was at least one other child Christina born about 1862. Caroline died July 15, 1876. "From all evidence, J. H. Hilmes probably had a twin brother Johan Gerhard, who was born and died on April 3, 1814. "J.H. Hilmes is listed as one of the early settlers in "History of Marion and Clinton Counties, Illinois" 1881 and is described as a farmer and stock raiser in the list of patrons for the book. "In the census of 1870 the name was misspelled 'Hilmas'. John Henry is 55 and lists his real estate value at $4,000 and the value of his personal goods as $1,000. His wife's name is written 'Catharina' and listed as 41 and a housekeeper. Theodore is age 19, Anna is age 16, Berhard (sic) is age 9 and Christnia (sic) is age 8. There is also listed a 29 year old laborer from Hanover named H. H. Rikindag. "In the census of 1880 J. Henry is a retired farmer aged 66 and Bernard Hilmes is a 19 year old laborer on the Henry Albers farm about a mile north of the family farm. Chri. Hilmes is listed as a 17 year old servant at the Waller's. Note: Bernard asked Katarina Waller to be one of the baptism sponsors for his son Bernard. Kahtarina and Klemens Waller were sponsors for Caroline, and Klemens was a sponsor for Frank Clemns Hilmes. "J. H. died May 27, 1896 but lived long enough to see his son Bernard married to Catherine Toennies on March 3, 1886 when he was 25 and she was 20 years old. "Catherine was born January 20, 1866 to Gerhard Albert Toennies and his wife Agnes nee Wiegmann. Gerhard was born September 7, 1827 and died May 27, 1896. Agnes was born November 25, 1838 and died February 24, 1882. So neither mother lived to see her child married. "Caterine had a least one sister Mary Eilerman (2/14/1868-12/20/1920) and three brothers Herman Toennies (10/16/1855-5/1/1929), George Toennies and Joseph Toennies. "Bernard and Catherine's 55 years of marriage produced 10 children before he died on April 26, 1930. Catherine lived until December 23, 1943. .....and that was just the beginning' BILL AND CHRIS KEHL, 30 Appletree Lane, Belleville, Il. 62221, (618)233-0002 St. Bernard Cem., Albers, IL Son: IN MEMORY OF BERNARD HILMES JUNE 6, 1895 JAN. 29, 1935 FATHER This is another BERNARD HILMES: I don't have a lot of information on my Hilmes relatives. I have Agnes Thersia Hilmes born May 15 1829 in Hanover Germany. She married Herman Bernard Richter on May 2 1854 in Clinton Co. IL. Her parents were Bernard Albert Hilmes and Adel Uhlen. I don't have any information on children. Let me know if anything fits. Sandy Plancich [email protected] My interest in the family lies in how they connect with the RENSING family. Bill Surnames of Interest: BUCHHOLZ anywhere -BECKMANN-CASSIDY-DeL0NJAY-DREES-MOSBACHER-NENTWIG-NEUTZLER-PONCOT-RENSIN G-STAUDER-STIEFFERMANN

In a message dated Sat, 6 Sep 2003 3:49:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, "Deb Tebbe" <[email protected]> writes: >Hi, >I have alot of information on the Tebbe's what are you looking for. I >married into the Tebbe family and also am related through my maiden name >would love to exchange information with you. >Deb ============================================== Oh, goodie, Deb! Does this mean you might have time to check for the Toebbe who married the Drenten in Breese? I bet it is the same family. Eager to hear from you. Gloria

Hi, I have alot of information on the Tebbe's what are you looking for. I married into the Tebbe family and also am related through my maiden name would love to exchange information with you. Deb ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marsha Robinson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 10:16 AM Subject: [ILCLINTON] researching Rehkemper, Hilmes, Tebbe, Middeke, Hagen > Hi. I'm new to the list but have been working on my family tree for several years. The Clinton County website has been a wonderful resource especially since I now live out of state. Thanks so much to all those who have made this site possible. > > I am researching the following surnames: > > Rehkemper, Hilmes, Tebbe, Middeke, Hagen > > I would appreciate hearing from anyone else who may have ties to these names or who may have additional information. I would be happy to share my information with anyone who is interested. Listed below are the oldest ancestors that I have been able to trace: > > Herman Bernard Hilmes b. Jan 25, 1862 d. Nov. 15, 1941, married > Maria Elizabeth Hagen b. Jun 9, 1862 > > Herman Rehkemper b. Apr 23, 1837 d. May 23, 1888 married > Anna Maria Geers (Gehrs) sp?? b. Sept 28, 1836 d. Mar 11, 1906 > > Henry Tebbe, Sr. b. June 17, 1845 d. Jan 25, 1928 married > Catherine Middeke b. Feb 2, 1857 d. Aug 25, 1925. > > I have seen the older post in the archives with information from the Tenfelde book for the Surname Hilmes. If someone is able to look up the other surnames I am researching I would be most appreciative. > > I look forward to being part of the list. > > Marsha (Hilmes) Robinson > Fort Collins, Colorado > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi. I'm new to the list but have been working on my family tree for several years. The Clinton County website has been a wonderful resource especially since I now live out of state. Thanks so much to all those who have made this site possible. I am researching the following surnames: Rehkemper, Hilmes, Tebbe, Middeke, Hagen I would appreciate hearing from anyone else who may have ties to these names or who may have additional information. I would be happy to share my information with anyone who is interested. Listed below are the oldest ancestors that I have been able to trace: Herman Bernard Hilmes b. Jan 25, 1862 d. Nov. 15, 1941, married Maria Elizabeth Hagen b. Jun 9, 1862 Herman Rehkemper b. Apr 23, 1837 d. May 23, 1888 married Anna Maria Geers (Gehrs) sp?? b. Sept 28, 1836 d. Mar 11, 1906 Henry Tebbe, Sr. b. June 17, 1845 d. Jan 25, 1928 married Catherine Middeke b. Feb 2, 1857 d. Aug 25, 1925. I have seen the older post in the archives with information from the Tenfelde book for the Surname Hilmes. If someone is able to look up the other surnames I am researching I would be most appreciative. I look forward to being part of the list. Marsha (Hilmes) Robinson Fort Collins, Colorado

Scott Williams is very active in the accumulation and preservation of Civil War memorabilia as well as details of the war. He is involved in a new museum being established near the Jefferson Barracks area in South St. Louis County. The following is his entry to the StL-Metro List and it includes Illinois troops. His email is: [email protected] Gloria > Battle of Pacific, Missouri. This 1/2 hour skirmish was fought Oct. 1, 1864 > on the St. Louis-Franklin County line. > > Gen. Sterling Price had sent Gen. William L. Cabell who commanded a brigade > of Arkansas Cavalry to cut the RR east of Pacific. This > was most likely a section of track 1 1/2 to 2 miles east of town. There may > even be a small bridge over a creek that was burned as > Confederate reports allude to that act being accomplished successfully. At > any rate I believe this would be the only real Civil War > battle (skirmish) fought in St. Louis County, even though it only began > there and moved with greater intensity into Franklin County. > > In the battle reports, there is no mention of the town of Pacific. What is > mentioned is the town of Franklin. Today there is no town > of Franklin in Franklin County. That is because it is now called Pacific. > But at the time of the Civil War both Federal and > Confederate troops most commonly referred to it as Franklin, even though > officially it changed names by 1858. The Federals arrived > via RR cars in which they could take no further west than 1 1/2 to 2 miles > east of the town. > > The Confederate attack included firing their artillery, but it did not stop > the Federals who went down on the ground to avoid much > of the fire. Then the Federals continued their advance into town as the > Confederates burned the town's RR depot on their way out. > Although the Confederates heavily outnumbered the Federals the Confederates > were not interested in being delayed on their movement > toward Jefferson City. The Federal commander was Col.Edward H. Wolff, who > commanded an Infantry brigade of Indiana and Illinois > troops. The causalities: Federals: 7 wounded, two severely; no known > Confederate losses. > > The Federal units involved were the 54th Illinois Vol. Infantry; 117th > Illinois Infantry and the 52nd Indiana Vol. Infantry. There > may have been others but this is all I could find in the battle reports > > Cabell's Brigade consisted of the following: > > 1st Arkansas Cavalry; 4th Arkansas Cavalry; Morgan's 2nd Arkansas Cavalry; > 7th Arkansas Cavalry; Gunter's Arkansas Cavalry > Battalion; Harrell's Arkansas Battalion; Witherspoon's Arkansas Cavalry; and > Hughey's Artillery Battery. > > If anyone has information to add about this engagement I would appreciate > hearing it. > > Scott K. Williams >

Thanks anyway!!! Dottie Dorothy Falk wrote: > Sorry, Dottie, > > I don't have a copy of this book. I'm hoping that a library nearby will > obtain a copy in the near future. > > Dorothy > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dottie Austin" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 2:02 PM > Subject: Re: [ILCLINTON] new Illinois G.A.R. book > > > >> >>Dorothy Falk wrote: >> >>>----- Original Message ----- >>> >>> List, >>>Dennis Northcott has transcribed more than 32,000 deaths of Grand Army >> > of > >>>the Republic members who served in the Civil War. >>> >>>Dorothy, >> >> Do you have access to the above book and if so would you do a >>lookup for me? There are too many books in the world that I want. If >>no one I want is in this one I'd rather not buy it. I have the date of >>my grandfather's death and I have a letter which says that he went to >>some government office to locate his brother Jefferson White only to >>learn that he had died a couple of years before. Gives you an idea why >>I have had to dig every step of the way. They didn't correspond. With >>the reports of the weather you've been having I get vivid possibilities >>of why all the illnesses if the 1830s and 40s happened. >> By the way - did I tell you that the White reference you e-mailed >>was the New Mexico branch of A H White's family descended from the 3 >>brothers who went to Sacremento? TIA >> >>Dottie Austin >> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >>============================== >>To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > > go to: > >>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Sorry, Dottie, I don't have a copy of this book. I'm hoping that a library nearby will obtain a copy in the near future. Dorothy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dottie Austin" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 2:02 PM Subject: Re: [ILCLINTON] new Illinois G.A.R. book > > > Dorothy Falk wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > List, > > Dennis Northcott has transcribed more than 32,000 deaths of Grand Army of > > the Republic members who served in the Civil War. > > > >Dorothy, > Do you have access to the above book and if so would you do a > lookup for me? There are too many books in the world that I want. If > no one I want is in this one I'd rather not buy it. I have the date of > my grandfather's death and I have a letter which says that he went to > some government office to locate his brother Jefferson White only to > learn that he had died a couple of years before. Gives you an idea why > I have had to dig every step of the way. They didn't correspond. With > the reports of the weather you've been having I get vivid possibilities > of why all the illnesses if the 1830s and 40s happened. > By the way - did I tell you that the White reference you e-mailed > was the New Mexico branch of A H White's family descended from the 3 > brothers who went to Sacremento? TIA > > Dottie Austin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Dorothy Falk wrote: I should have added that Jefferson's death seems to have been 5 years + or - of 1898. Dottie A

Dorothy Falk wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > > List, > Dennis Northcott has transcribed more than 32,000 deaths of Grand Army of > the Republic members who served in the Civil War. > >Dorothy, Do you have access to the above book and if so would you do a lookup for me? There are too many books in the world that I want. If no one I want is in this one I'd rather not buy it. I have the date of my grandfather's death and I have a letter which says that he went to some government office to locate his brother Jefferson White only to learn that he had died a couple of years before. Gives you an idea why I have had to dig every step of the way. They didn't correspond. With the reports of the weather you've been having I get vivid possibilities of why all the illnesses if the 1830s and 40s happened. By the way - did I tell you that the White reference you e-mailed was the New Mexico branch of A H White's family descended from the 3 brothers who went to Sacremento? TIA Dottie Austin > > > > >