In a message dated 9/16/03 7:45:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > RATERMANN Elizabeth 195 2508 In IL 42 Years, widow, born Germany, died 27 Dec 1893 at age 78 in Breese Twp of senility; buried St Dominic's Catholic Cemetery 30 Dec 1893 > > RATERMANN Frederick 122 1567 In IL 25 years, married, farmer, born Germany, died 26 May 1884 at age 60 of heart disease in Breese Precinct; buried St Dominic's Cemetery, Breese, 28 May 1884 > > RATERMANN Tantina 202 7 Born America, died 11 Dec 1898 at age 5-9-5 in Carlyle of typhoid fever; buried Carlyle 13 Dec. > > Please keep in mind this listing has not yet been proofed. Hope this helps. Laura

RATERMANN Elizabeth 195 2508 RATERMANN Frederick 122 1567 RATERMANN Tantina 202 7 Could anyone tell me what it says about the above people in the Death Book? Phyllis (Kues) Stroud

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: BURCH, MICHELS Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ig.2ADE/171 Message Board Post: William BURCH, age 40, of Germantown is listed on the 1862 Military Census. Mary J. (BURCH) MICHELS; born Sep 7, 1855; died Oct 4, 1934 and her husband Arnold B. MICHELS; born Mar 23, 1858; died Jan 13, 1934 are buried in St. Boniface Catholic Cemetery -- Germantown, IL. Would like to know whether the above persons are related, and whether they relate to my BURCH's: William Allen BURCH; born Oct 4, 1859 in Trenton, IL and Enoch Arden BURCH; born Mar 11, 1867 in Carlyle, IL. ANY information will be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

Hi, Ken, I've updated this afternoon's info The only two Coopers that we've found so far that are buried in Carlyle are: COOPER, George P. born 26 Dec 1835 died 17 Mar 1914 COOPER, Margaret A. born 1 Apr 1840 died 16 Feb 1924 For other Cooper links on our web page, go to the "Clinton County Surname Helper" and to the searchers under "Cemeteries" and "1920 Census". James and Harriet Cooper are listed in the 1900 census for Carlyle City. During proofing, the size of the household became a bit larger - there were 2 families in that house. The household number changed, too. According to http://www.sos.state.il.us/departments/archives/marriage.html Mary Cooper married James Clabaugh. If you want to check for other Coopers, you could go to that URL, and just insert Cooper for the brides in Clinton Co. Later try the grooms. Or you could expand it to statewide, or some other county. Page 160B Household 121 - 130, no address given, first 11 people can read, write and speak English. Cooper, James, Head, born May 1828, Age 72, married 47 years, born IL, father GA, mother TN, Ocupation: NG, Rent house Cooper, Harriet, wife, Mar 1839, 61, had 15 children, 11 living, KY KY GA Mainer, Theresa Dau, Jul 1879, 20, married 3 years, had 1 child, still living, IL IL KY Mainer, Edward, Son-Law, Aug 1869, 30, IL Unk Unk, Occupation ----- (Still no Mainer child listed. There is a entry in the Carlyle cemetery for Mains, Infant, no dates given - child of Mr. & Mrs. E. L. - that could easily be Mainer) Household 121-131 Claubaugh, James, Head, May 1855, 45, Married 23 years, Pa Pa Pa Day laborer, not available 6 months last year, Rent house Claubaugh, Mary, Wife, Sep 1855, 44, Had 8 children, 7 living, IL IL KY Claubaugh, Robert E., Son, Sep 80, 19, IL PA IL Day laborer, not available for work 1 month last year Claubaugh, Gora J., Dau, Apr 1883, 17, IL PA IL House servant Claubaugh, Louis Clinton, Son, Oct 1883, 16, IL PA IL Farm laborer, not available 0 months last year (I triple checked the birth months/years/ages of Gora & Louis - maybe Louis should have been 1885) Claubaugh, Martin C., Son, Dec 1886, 13, IL PA IL At school 9 months last year Claubaugh, Harriet L., Dau, Sep 1889, 10, IL PA IL At school 9 months last year Claubaugh, George W., Son, Feb 1893, 7, IL PA IL At school 4 months last year Claubaugh, Alfred W., Son, Oct 1896, 3, IL PA IL I don't have an index for 1910 but skimming through the City of Carlyle, I see that James Clabaugh is 56, widower, had 8 children, 5 living. Martin, Harriet and George, all single, still live with him. I did not see Cooper or Mainer, they could be there or they could have moved elsewhere. I'll check the death register at the FHC on my next trip there - maybe in a week or two. James Clabaugh was my grandmother's brother or cousin - some day I'll do my own tree and figure it out. I do have some Clabaugh info, if you need anything on them, please email me directly, not thru the List. Dorothy ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ken Hoffman" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 1:53 PM > Subject: [ILCLINTON] James Cooper/Harriet Johnston > > > > I'm researching my g-g-grandparents, James Cooper and > > Harriet Johnston, and the trail peters out in Clinton > > Co., Illinois. The 1880 Census places them in > > Irishtown, Clinton Co., and family history places them > > in Carlyle ca. 1884. Further, according to family > > history, they occupied a house in Carlyle on the > > corner of Fairfax Ave. and 3rd St. which was owned at > > the time by Richard Thomas Daniel. Apparently, the > > house was sold by Mr. Daniel in 1908, but no mention > > is made of what became of James and Harriet Cooper. > > Any insight into this matter would be of the greatest > > help to me. Thanks, > > > > Ken Hoffman > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software > > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Dorothy: That's them!!! I must say that your website is an absolute marvel. It boggles my mind how much information you have readily at hand. Between your site and the IRAD site I've hit a motherlode of data. Thank you so much, Ken Edmonton, Alberta CANADA __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com

Hi, Ken, The only two Coopers that we've found so far that are buried in Carlyle are: COOPER, George P. born 26 Dec 1835 died 17 Mar 1914 COOPER, Margaret A. born 1 Apr 1840 died 16 Feb 1924 The 1900 census for Carlyle Township, Household 121-138, lists them still here. I'll try to find more this evening. Unproofed info: Cooper, James, Head, born May 1828, married 47 years, born IL Cooper, Harriet, wife, Mar 39, had 15 children, 11 living, KY Mainer, Theresa Dau, Jul 1879, married 3 years, had 1 child, still living, IL Mainer, Edward, Son-Law, Aug 69, IL no child listed. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Hoffman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 1:53 PM Subject: [ILCLINTON] James Cooper/Harriet Johnston > I'm researching my g-g-grandparents, James Cooper and > Harriet Johnston, and the trail peters out in Clinton > Co., Illinois. The 1880 Census places them in > Irishtown, Clinton Co., and family history places them > in Carlyle ca. 1884. Further, according to family > history, they occupied a house in Carlyle on the > corner of Fairfax Ave. and 3rd St. which was owned at > the time by Richard Thomas Daniel. Apparently, the > house was sold by Mr. Daniel in 1908, but no mention > is made of what became of James and Harriet Cooper. > Any insight into this matter would be of the greatest > help to me. Thanks, > > Ken Hoffman > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

I'm researching my g-g-grandparents, James Cooper and Harriet Johnston, and the trail peters out in Clinton Co., Illinois. The 1880 Census places them in Irishtown, Clinton Co., and family history places them in Carlyle ca. 1884. Further, according to family history, they occupied a house in Carlyle on the corner of Fairfax Ave. and 3rd St. which was owned at the time by Richard Thomas Daniel. Apparently, the house was sold by Mr. Daniel in 1908, but no mention is made of what became of James and Harriet Cooper. Any insight into this matter would be of the greatest help to me. Thanks, Ken Hoffman __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com

In a message dated 9/14/03 7:12:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Carol has loaded the 1862 military draft census of guys from 18 through 45 > on line that Laura Cordingley transcribed. This can be found under the > census category and the military category. And remember the basic rule - phonics, > phonics, phonics. Have fun! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilclint2/1862census/index.htm Thanks Laura for another super job! > > And for those of you with HTML-challenged e-mail programs (do NOT copy the curly brackets): {http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilclint2/1862census/index.htm}

Carol has loaded the 1862 military draft census of guys from 18 through 45 on line that Laura Cordingley transcribed. This can be found under the census category and the military category. And remember the basic rule - phonics, phonics, phonics. Have fun! http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilclint2/1862census/index.htm Thanks Laura for another super job!

Thank you, Dorothy, I was able to get it now. I appreciate it! Darlene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy Falk" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 5:21 PM Subject: Re: [ILCLINTON] Aviston, IL St. Francis Cemetery ONLINE! > Try http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilclint2/cemetery/sugarcreek/stfrancis.htm > The people that have AOL have to use the other thingies on the URLs. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: " Darlene Burzynski" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 3:23 PM > Subject: Re: [ILCLINTON] Aviston, IL St. Francis Cemetery ONLINE! > > > > Dear Donna, > > Thanks for trying. I still get the message that the page cannot be found. > > Darlene > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 4:15 PM > > Subject: Re: [ILCLINTON] Aviston, IL St. Francis Cemetery ONLINE! > > > > > > > In a message dated 9/12/03 4:05:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > > > [email protected] writes: > > > > > > > Donna, > > > > Hi. I saw your note. When I try I can't get the site. Would you tell > me > > what > > > > you did to get it? > > > > > > > > > > It wasn't your fault ... the link included the html code for it. Here's > > the > > > proper link. > > > <A > > > HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilclint2/cemetery/sugarcreek/stfrancis.htm">h > > ttp://www.rootsweb.com/~ilclint2/cemetery/sugarcreek/stfrancis.htm</A> > > > > > > Laura > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Dear Donna, Thanks for trying. I still get the message that the page cannot be found. Darlene ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [ILCLINTON] Aviston, IL St. Francis Cemetery ONLINE! > In a message dated 9/12/03 4:05:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > > Donna, > > Hi. I saw your note. When I try I can't get the site. Would you tell me what > > you did to get it? > > > > It wasn't your fault ... the link included the html code for it. Here's the > proper link. > <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilclint2/cemetery/sugarcreek/stfrancis.htm">h ttp://www.rootsweb.com/~ilclint2/cemetery/sugarcreek/stfrancis.htm</A> > > Laura > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Try http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilclint2/cemetery/sugarcreek/stfrancis.htm The people that have AOL have to use the other thingies on the URLs. ----- Original Message ----- From: " Darlene Burzynski" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 3:23 PM Subject: Re: [ILCLINTON] Aviston, IL St. Francis Cemetery ONLINE! > Dear Donna, > Thanks for trying. I still get the message that the page cannot be found. > Darlene > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 4:15 PM > Subject: Re: [ILCLINTON] Aviston, IL St. Francis Cemetery ONLINE! > > > > In a message dated 9/12/03 4:05:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > > [email protected] writes: > > > > > Donna, > > > Hi. I saw your note. When I try I can't get the site. Would you tell me > what > > > you did to get it? > > > > > > > It wasn't your fault ... the link included the html code for it. Here's > the > > proper link. > > <A > HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilclint2/cemetery/sugarcreek/stfrancis.htm">h > ttp://www.rootsweb.com/~ilclint2/cemetery/sugarcreek/stfrancis.htm</A> > > > > Laura > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

In a message dated 9/12/03 4:05:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Donna, > Hi. I saw your note. When I try I can't get the site. Would you tell me what > you did to get it? > It wasn't your fault ... the link included the html code for it. Here's the proper link. <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilclint2/cemetery/sugarcreek/stfrancis.htm">http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilclint2/cemetery/sugarcreek/stfrancis.htm</A> Laura

Donna, Hi. I saw your note. When I try I can't get the site. Would you tell me what you did to get it? Thanks. Darlene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Rohwedder" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [ILCLINTON] Aviston, IL St. Francis Cemetery ONLINE! > Just checked the link --out of curiosity. I am > impressed. Wish more of this type of posting could be > done. Great work. Donna > --- [email protected] wrote: > > Greetings, Everyone! > > > > Yes, as promised and much earlier than expected > > (Thanks, Dorothy & Carol!), > > here it is! > > In Sugar Creek Township, Aviston's St. Francis > > Cemetery. > > This is a great cemetery; very well maintained with > > lots of old stones! Oh, > > boy, does it ever have lots of old stones! > > Here is the link: [Copy and paste if the link > > doesn't work] > > Note: The search engine in the cemetery section > > won't work until tomorrow (10 > > Sep 2003). > > <A > > > HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilclint2/cemetery/sugarcreek/stfrancis.htm">h ttp://www.rootsweb.com/~ilclint2/cemetery/sugarcreek/stfrancis.htm</A> > > > > To quote Dorothy - And it's lovely. We don't mind > > saying so ourselves. > > Enjoy! We sure had fun reading it but then, we > > always do. > > > > Gloria > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion > > online genealogy records, go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

I've done online research on county sites in numerous states and I've yet to find a site with as comprehensive sets of databases as at the all-volunteer Clinton site. The posting of this lastest cemetery takes an already excellent site to a new level. With a few clicks of a mouse, researchers can not only find their ancestors, but can see who is buried near them. Just as they we find clues in our research from knowing who lived on the lands surrounding those where our ancestors lived, we can find clues in who is buried in the plots surrounding those where our ancestors died. Congratulations Dorothy, Gloria and Carol and the others who helped on a job not only WELL done, but EXCELLENTLY done. And congrats to the researchers in Clinton County. Another wonderful tool! Laura

Great work on reading the St. Francis Cemetery in Aviston, Illinois! Thank you for the time and hard work that you all put into it in order to help all of us working on family trees. You made it very easy to follow and obtained a lot of information. Thanks for making it easier for us to get information on our ancestors. Phyllis (Kues) Stroud

Thank you for your latest gift to us. You do excellent research. We just received a partial translation of a triple tombstone in the Damiansville Cemetery. I would like to send you the translation from German and ask if anyone has any information on these three women buried together. Left hand side: Here Rests in Peace with her mother, Anna Maria wife of Franz. ???.... born Dec. 25, 1845 died Dec. 13, 1875. Center Stone: Here Rests in Peace between her children Anna Maria wife of Heinrich H???? (not legible) born Dec. 15, 1801 died Dec. 28, 1875 Right hand Stone: Here Rests in Peace with her mother, Maria Anna, wife of Jack Winter born Nov. 1830 died Dec. 20, 1875. As they died within weeks of one another, we suspect an epidemic. The stone has clasped hands on the center stone and weeping willow trees engraved on the side stone. The stones are all connected into one large stone. We suspect that these are ancestors, but need more information. Hopefully someone will know of this mother and her two daughters. Thank you for your help. [email protected] Evelyn & Conrad Nettemeyer

Please do not Fax documents to the FAX number included with this message. It is a work location and FAXes are not controlled. I have no guarantee of receiving them unless I have advance notice that they are coming. Scanning and email would be better. Thanks, Brett D. Weems IS&S LGR Implementation Phone 517-885-7282 Cell 517-719-3534 Fax 517-885-7299

I found info alot actually copied one page and trying to fax it to you. The name of the book is there and I think it is the one Dorothy told you about. I can copy more if you want and send it or you can get a copy from the archives and check it out yourself. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 9:24 AM Subject: [ILCLINTON] William Walker, 1800 - bef 1850 > I am decended from a William Walker, born approximately 1800 in Georgia. > One of his wives was Frances Doggett > > I have his daughter Elizabeth's death certificate which supports this > information. > Elizabeth was born in 1829 in Clinton County and died 1920 in Beaucoup > Washington County Illinois. > > I believe William to be the William Walker in the 1820, 1830, and 1840 > Clinton county Censuses. I have not been able to find William or Frances > in the 1850 Census. > > Elizabeth is married to a George W. Walker by 1850 and living in Washington > County. > > Does anyone have more information on William and/or Frances. > > Brett D. Weems > IS&S LGR Implementation > Phone 517-885-7282 > Cell 517-719-3534 > Fax 517-885-7299 > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Netwitz. Are your virus definitions up to date?] > > --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Netwitz. Are your virus definitions up to date?]

Just checked the link --out of curiosity. I am impressed. Wish more of this type of posting could be done. Great work. Donna --- [email protected] wrote: > Greetings, Everyone! > > Yes, as promised and much earlier than expected > (Thanks, Dorothy & Carol!), > here it is! > In Sugar Creek Township, Aviston's St. Francis > Cemetery. > This is a great cemetery; very well maintained with > lots of old stones! Oh, > boy, does it ever have lots of old stones! > Here is the link: [Copy and paste if the link > doesn't work] > Note: The search engine in the cemetery section > won't work until tomorrow (10 > Sep 2003). > <A > HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilclint2/cemetery/sugarcreek/stfrancis.htm">http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilclint2/cemetery/sugarcreek/stfrancis.htm</A> > > To quote Dorothy - And it's lovely. We don't mind > saying so ourselves. > Enjoy! We sure had fun reading it but then, we > always do. > > Gloria > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion > online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com