I don't see anything on him. Perhaps they married in our neighboring Washington County, their data is not included in the Illinois data base. Perhaps someone from the other counties was able to give you specific info. Perhaps you'll find something on one of the other links that I sent this morning. I'll check the births microfilm on my next trip to FHC. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim and Charlotte To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 9:56 AM Subject: [ILCLINTON] Brown/Biswell I am looking for a William (Bill) Brown who married an Elizabeth (Lizzie) Biswell. Possibly around 1883. They were living in ILL and I believe they were married in ILL. Their first three children, Archie, Cora Jane and Elmer James Brown were all born in ILL. Later they moved to Arkansas and my grandfather William McKinley Brown was born there in 1895 in Randolph Co. Bill Brown may have worked for the Railroad. I am trying to find a marriage record for them and any info on him and his parents. Lizzie Biswell had a lot of family in Missouri, around St. Francois Co and others. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Charlotte Christensen ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Yes, I have the death record for Rosa. I have been to Family Search and found a lot of Biswell's there. Thanks for checking for me. Charlotte ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy Falk" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 7:33 AM Subject: Re: [ILCLINTON] Biswell > I see no Biswell in 1870 or 1880. > > You could search the 1880 census free at http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=census/search_census.asp One way to search would be to query on the 1880 US census, just insert the surname and leave it at all states. After you link to any link that looks interesting, click on the "Household" over on the right hand side. > > I assume you know that 9 month old Rosa is the only Biswell listed in our death index. No further info on where she is buried. > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jim and Charlotte > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 8:44 AM > Subject: [ILCLINTON] > > > I am researching a James Monroe Biswell. He was born in St Francois Co., MO. He was living in Monroe Co., ILL in 1856 when he married Susan Jones, born in Jefferson Co., MO, on May 21, 1856 in Monroe Co., ILL. They later moved to Clinton Co., ILL. James was in the Civil War. He went in the Army in Sept. of 1862, and was living in the Sugar Creek/Trenton area. He was discharged in June of 1865 disabled. He died in Dec. of 1888 in Clinton Co., ILL. I am trying to find a record of his death and where he is buried. He also had a daughter, Rosa Bell Biswell who died at age nine in 1880 of the measles. I have her death record, but it doesn't say where she was buried. So, I am trying to find where she is buried also. Would appreciate any help. Thanks > Charlotte Christensen > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

I see no Biswell in 1870 or 1880. You could search the 1880 census free at http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=census/search_census.asp One way to search would be to query on the 1880 US census, just insert the surname and leave it at all states. After you link to any link that looks interesting, click on the "Household" over on the right hand side. I assume you know that 9 month old Rosa is the only Biswell listed in our death index. No further info on where she is buried. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim and Charlotte To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 8:44 AM Subject: [ILCLINTON] I am researching a James Monroe Biswell. He was born in St Francois Co., MO. He was living in Monroe Co., ILL in 1856 when he married Susan Jones, born in Jefferson Co., MO, on May 21, 1856 in Monroe Co., ILL. They later moved to Clinton Co., ILL. James was in the Civil War. He went in the Army in Sept. of 1862, and was living in the Sugar Creek/Trenton area. He was discharged in June of 1865 disabled. He died in Dec. of 1888 in Clinton Co., ILL. I am trying to find a record of his death and where he is buried. He also had a daughter, Rosa Bell Biswell who died at age nine in 1880 of the measles. I have her death record, but it doesn't say where she was buried. So, I am trying to find where she is buried also. Would appreciate any help. Thanks Charlotte Christensen ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hi, Charlotte, There are no Hirsch or Biswell listed in the current telephone book. You might try a locator such as http://www.anywho.com/ to see where there might be people by any surname in Illinois, if they have a listed telephone number. In 1900, John & Mary Hirch lived in St. Rose Township, Jamestown Village, Page 253A. Household 7-8 Hirch, John, head, May 66, 34, married 9 years, born IL, father born Germany, mother born Switzerland, day laborer, didn't work 3 months last year, owns home free of mortgage, neighbors also had tie to Switzerland Hirch, Mary C., wife, Nov 66, 33, had 4 children, 4 living, Illinois, Missouri, Missouri Hirch, Mary M., Dau, Sep 91, 8, IL IL IL Hirch, Susana F., Dau, Feb 94, 6, IL IL IL Hirch, Grace, Dau, Jul 95, 4, IL IL IL Hirch, Laury E., Dau, Oct 98, 1, IL IL IL The Illinois marriage data base is at http://www.sos.state.il.us/departments/archives/marriage.html One way you could go is just insert Hirch in the bride block and leave it at statewide. After you look at that one entry, try Hirsch. I can look for additional data at the FHC in a couple of weeks if you tell me privately which Clinton Co. marriages you'd like me to look up. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim and Charlotte To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 9:50 AM Subject: [ILCLINTON] John Hirsch I am trying to find information about a John Hirsch who married a Mary/Marie Biswell on October 8, 1890 in Clinton Co. They lived in the Brookside area of Clinton Co. I have them on the 1910 Ill census, I think. I am trying to find if they had any children and if any are still around there. Mary/Marie Biswell's sister Lizzie Biswell Brown was my great grandmother. She would be my great Aunt. Mary/Marie was born in either Monroe or Clinton Co.Thanks Charlotte Christensen

I am looking for a William (Bill) Brown who married an Elizabeth (Lizzie) Biswell. Possibly around 1883. They were living in ILL and I believe they were married in ILL. Their first three children, Archie, Cora Jane and Elmer James Brown were all born in ILL. Later they moved to Arkansas and my grandfather William McKinley Brown was born there in 1895 in Randolph Co. Bill Brown may have worked for the Railroad. I am trying to find a marriage record for them and any info on him and his parents. Lizzie Biswell had a lot of family in Missouri, around St. Francois Co and others. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Charlotte Christensen

I am trying to find information about a John Hirsch who married a Mary/Marie Biswell on October 8, 1890 in Clinton Co. They lived in the Brookside area of Clinton Co. I have them on the 1910 Ill census, I think. I am trying to find if they had any children and if any are still around there. Mary/Marie Biswell's sister Lizzie Biswell Brown was my great grandmother. She would be my great Aunt. Mary/Marie was born in either Monroe or Clinton Co.Thanks Charlotte Christensen

I am researching a James Monroe Biswell. He was born in St Francois Co., MO. He was living in Monroe Co., ILL in 1856 when he married Susan Jones, born in Jefferson Co., MO, on May 21, 1856 in Monroe Co., ILL. They later moved to Clinton Co., ILL. James was in the Civil War. He went in the Army in Sept. of 1862, and was living in the Sugar Creek/Trenton area. He was discharged in June of 1865 disabled. He died in Dec. of 1888 in Clinton Co., ILL. I am trying to find a record of his death and where he is buried. He also had a daughter, Rosa Bell Biswell who died at age nine in 1880 of the measles. I have her death record, but it doesn't say where she was buried. So, I am trying to find where she is buried also. Would appreciate any help. Thanks Charlotte Christensen

TO JEAN, I checked all Conrad's surnames and we do not match except for the Netemeyer. Seems some of the Nettemeyers dropped one of the 't's' for some strange reason. They also spelled it Nettemeier. If you do receive the photo of Fr. Gerhard Netemeyer taken in 1926 would you mind sharing it with us? Our email [email protected] Cletus & Monica Netemeyer and their family who are restoring this historic home in the area around Germantown spell their names with one 't'. They do not have an email address, but I will give you their land address if you are interested in contacting them. Please contact me privately for this address if you wish to write to them. Evelyn and Conrad Nettemeyer

Hi Clinton Co. Listers, I'm researching the family of Bartholomew Glatthaar and Barbara Trenz. I have pictures of many Glatthaars. I can't identify everyone but I have some good one's of the Joseph A. Glatthaar family who lived in East St. Louis, St. Claire Co., Ill. Joseph married Theresa Thorand. Anyone that can share more on these families is appreciated. Thanks, Allen L. Yoder Seattle, Wa. 1 Bartholomew GLATTHAAR ————————————————————————————————————————————— Birth: 1829, Baden, Germany Death: bef 1900 Occ: Cooper-1880 Census Father: UNNAMED Mother: UNNAMED GLATTHAAR, Frank Trenton Trenton GLATTHAAR, Joseph, father of Germany 1865 City of Trenton GLATTHAAR, Joseph Trenton Trenton Cooper----from internet “Glatthaar” Bartholome Glatthaar found in: Germans to America, 1850-1874 Age: 25 Gender: Male Occupation: Farmer Country: Baden Final Destination: New York Manifest ID Number: 00007739 Ship's Name: Trumbull Port of Embarkation: Havre Date of Arrival: Feb 16, 1854 Captain's Name: William D. Smith Purpose for Travel: Staying in the USA Mode of Travel: Steerage Spouse: Barbara TRENZ Birth: Mar 19, 1835, Bevaria, Germany Death: May 15, 1916, Carlyle, Clinton Co., Illinois Marr: May 8, 1862, T.H. McVicer, Justice Of The Peace,St. Louis, Mo.1 Children: Lena (1859-) Joseph A. (1862-1945) Barbara (1865-1944) August (1864-1947) Mary (1867-) 1.1 Lena GLATTHAAR ————————————————————————————————————————————— Birth: 1859, Missouri 1.2 Joseph A. GLATTHAAR ————————————————————————————————————————————— Birth: Mar 1862, Alton, Ill. Death: May 17, 1945, East St. Louis, St.Clair Co.,Illinois Occ: Manager, Variety Store Reli: Roman Catholic Marriage U.S. Census 1900 Illinois Vol.84 E.D. 66 Sheeet 6 Line 54 County:St.Claire Township:East St.Louis Street:Missouri Ave. Glatthaar, Joesph Color:White Mar 1962 Age 38 Birth:Illinois Theresa Wife Nov 1866 33 Illinois Olga Dau 8 " Charlie Son 6 " Walter Son 3 " Alfred " 2 " Glatthaar, Joseph View Image Online Age: 56 Year: 1920 Birthplace: Illinois Roll: T625_404 Race: White Page: 8 State: Illinois ED: 156 County: St. Clair Image: 1079 Township: East Saint Louis Residence: 1401 Cleveland Ave., East St. Louis, Illinois Joseph Theresa Olga Alfred Lillian-16 years old 1930 St. Clair, East St. Louis, Illinois Census Record ED 82-48, sheet 4A East St. Louis City (part), East St. Louis Township GLATTHAAR, Joseph A., 65 GLATTHAAR, Teresa, 59 GLATTHAAR, Alfred L., 30 GLATTHAAR, Lilian, 23 Spouse: Theresa THORAND Birth: Nov 1866, Germany According To Marriage Record Death: aft 1947, Illinois Father: Joseph THORAND Sr. (1834-) Mother: Mary HANKE Marr: Jul 2, 1889, Trenton, St. Mary’s Catholic Church, Clinton Co., Illinois Children: Olga (1892-) Carl R. (1893-1969) Walter J. (1897-1972) Alfred Leo (1898-1978) Lillian (1903-1974) 1.2.1 Olga GLATTHAAR ————————————————————————————————————————————— Birth: 1892, Illinois Occ: Stenographer,Retail Clothing Co. 1930-Montgomery Co., Hillsboro, Illinois Spouse: Augustus D. PATTIE Birth: 1885, Tennessee Marr: 1923, Illinois Children: Richard (1925-1972) 1.2.2 Carl R. GLATTHAAR ————————————————————————————————————————————— Birth: Oct 24, 1893, Illinois Death: Jan 1969, Caseyville, St. Clair Co., Illinois Occ: Proprieter Of Garage-1930 owns home 1930-$10,000 CARL GLATTHAAR Request Information (SS-5) SSN 318-30-9372 Residence: 62232 Caseyville, Saint Clair, IL Born 24 Oct 1893 Last Benefit: Died Jan 1969 Issued: IL (1952 And 1) Spouse: Lois STAGNER Birth: Oct 21, 1897, Illinois Death: Aug 23, 1982, Los Angeles, Calif. Father: STAGNER Mother: PHIPPS Marr: 1917 Children: Jack (1918-) Marjorie C. 1.2.3 Walter J. GLATTHAAR ————————————————————————————————————————————— Birth: Jan 11, 1897, Illinois Death: Jul 1972, Palentine, Cook Co., Illinois Occ: Pattern Maker:Casting Co.; His families signature is in the August A Glatthaar “memorial record” at his funeral at Sullivan Funeral Home Spouse: Rosalie C Birth: Jan 28, 1898, Illinois Death: Feb 23, 1990, Illinois Children: Walter (1928-1999) 1.2.4 Alfred Leo GLATTHAAR ————————————————————————————————————————————— Birth: Apr 14, 1898, Illinois Death: Dec 27, 1978, San Diego, Calif., Phoenix, Maricopa, AZ Occ: Stationary Clerk, Packing Co. 1920/Meat Packing-1930 1.2.5 Lillian GLATTHAAR ————————————————————————————————————————————— Birth: Sep 12, 1903, Illinois Death: Jan 1974, Kankakee, Illinois Occ: Listed As Married In 1930 But No Husband LILLIAN OETTER Request Information (SS-5) SSN 359-24-1478 Residence: 60901 Kankakee, Kankakee, IL Born 12 Sep 1903 Last Benefit: Died Jan 1974 Issued: IL (Before 195) Spouse: Lee OETTER Birth: Dec 4, 1900 Death: Dec 1982, St. Louis, Missouri Marr: 1925 Children: Thomas 1.3 Barbara GLATTHAAR ————————————————————————————————————————————— Birth: Nov 5, 1865, Summerville, Ill. Death: Jan 22, 1944, Trenton, Clinton Co.,Ill. Reli: Roman Catholic Spouse: George BRUNNER Birth: Aug 10, 1867, Bruck, Germany Father: John BRUNNER (1833-) Mother: Catharine (1840-) Marr: Oct 12, 1897, Trenton, St. Mary’s Catholic Church, Clinton Co., Illinois Children: Edwin J (1899-) Agnes R. (1902-) Walter M. (1906-) 1.3.1 Edwin J BRUNNER ————————————————————————————————————————————— Birth: Jan 10, 1899, Illinois Occ: Janitor: Parochial School 1.3.2 Agnes R. BRUNNER ————————————————————————————————————————————— Birth: 1902, Illinois 1.3.3 Walter M. BRUNNER ————————————————————————————————————————————— Birth: 1906, Illinois WALTER M BRUNNER Request Information (SS-5) SSN 488-10-6571 Residence: 99204 Spokane, Spokane, WA Born 18 Sep 1905 Last Benefit: Died 27 Oct 1997 Issued: MO (Before 195) 1.4 August GLATTHAAR ————————————————————————————————————————————— Birth: Aug 30, 1864, Trenton, Illinois Death: Mar 28, 1947, St.Louis, Mo. Burial: Mar 31, 1947, Calvary Cemetery, St.Louis, Mo. Occ: Foreman Car Sales/Insurance Sales Agent/1931-Enumerator Educ: Can Read, Write, Speak English Reli: Roman Catholic Marriage Place Exceeded Limit: St. Theresa's Catholic Church St.Louis, Mo./reception At 3730 Lucky St. Burial: Calvary Cemetary Owned house at 1809 Belle Glade Ave -free and clear. 1900 U.S. Census G436 Vol.102 E.D. 393 Missouri Sheet 4 Line 1 Street: 1809 Belle Glade Ave. Glatthaar, August Color: White Born:Aug 1864 Age:35 Illinois Gustina Wife Aug 1867 32 Missouri Agnes Daugh. Sep 1893 6 " Burnhardt Son Mch 1896 4 " Grace Daugh Mch 1898 2 " Spouse: Justina “Stena” SIEBERT Birth: Aug 4, 1867, Pilot Knob, Arcadia Twnshp.,Ironton Co.,Missouri Death: Aug 8, 1957, St.Louis, Mo. Father: Louis C. SIEBERT (1829-1881) Mother: Caroline RICHARDS (1840-1878) Marr: Nov 23, 1892, St. Theresa's De Avila Church, St.Louis, Mo.2 Children: Agnes Sadie (Unmarried) (1893-1984) Bernard Francis (Unmarried) (1896-1980) Grace Caroline (1898-1979) 1.4.1 Agnes Sadie GLATTHAAR ————————————————————————————————————————————— Birth: Sep 15, 1893, St.Louis, Mo. Death: Nov 21, 1984, Christian Hospital N.E., St.Louis, Mo. Burial: Nov 24, 1984, Calvary Cemetary, St.Louis, Mo. Occ: Railway Express/clerical Work Educ: Reli: Roman Catholic:Christened 9/24/1893-St. Teresa De Avila-St.L Christen Date- Sept 24, 1893 Place-St. Teresa de Avila Church, St. Louis, Mo. Sponsors-Joseph Glatthaar, Sadie Siebert Minister-Rev. P.J. Byine 1.4.2 Bernard Francis GLATTHAAR ————————————————————————————————————————————— Birth: Mar 5, 1896, St.Louis, Mo. Death: Jan 8, 1980, St.Louis, Mo. Burial: Jan 11, 1980, Calvary Cemetary, St.Louis, Mo. Occ: Fireman; Electrician;trained As Cook In Air Force & Baker/1931-Lab.-City Water Dept Reli: Roman Catholic U.S. Avia schools Kelly Field Texas., Aero school Camp Greene, N.C.& Camp Funston, Kansas. Banon Field, Texas. Christen Date-March 22, 1896 St. Matthew's Church Godfather-Francis Glatthaar Godmother-Barbara Glatthaar Military: U.S. Army Burial: Jan. 11, 1980 , Mount Carmel Church 1.4.3 Grace Caroline GLATTHAAR ————————————————————————————————————————————— Birth: Mar 15, 1898, St. Louis, Missouri Death: Oct 8, 1979, Christian Hospital N.W., Florissant, Mo. Burial: Oct 29, 1979, Calvary Cemetary, St.Louis, Mo. Occ: Home-maker Educ: Ridick H.S. Later Was Named Central H.S. Reli: Roman Catholic Spouse: Daniel Gerald BARNARD Birth: May 17, 1902, St.Louis, Mo.3 Death: Sep 30, 1968, St.Louis, Mo. Father: Sidney Lawrence BARNARD (1865-1944) Mother: Eleanor “Ella” Theresa McQUEENY (1863-1937) Marr: Jun 18, 1923, St.Louis, Mo., St. Matthew’s Catholic Church Children: Agnes Jean “Jeanne” (1924-) Elizabeth Ann “Betty” (1926-) Grace Eleanor “Gracie” (1928-) 1.5 Mary GLATTHAAR ————————————————————————————————————————————— Birth: Nov 21, 1867, Indiana Reli: Roman Catholic Spouse: ?? Status: Children: George F. (1897-1968) 1.5.1 George F. GLATHAAR ————————————————————————————————————————————— Birth: Feb 17, 1897, Missouri Death: Apr 1968, Kansas City, Mo. Occ: Maintainance:Power & Light GEORGE GLATHAAR Search for this name at Ancestry.com Request Information (SS-5) SSN 496-01-0824 Residence: 64126 Kansas City, Jackson, MO Born 17 Feb 1898 Last Benefit: Died Apr 1968 Issued: MO (Before 1951) Spouse: Edith E. Birth: 1902, Kansas Children: Jean E. (1927-) Richard D. (1928-) Kathrine A. (1929-) Sources 1. “St. Louis, Mo. Marriage Records 1804-76,” 1804-76, St. Louis, Mo., Marriage, On-line, Recorder of Deeds, St. Louis City Hall, I have copy of register in my files. 2. “Certificate of Marriage,” Nov. 23, 1892, St. Louis, Mo., Original, Files of Allen L. Yoder. 3. “THE NEW TESTAMENT of OUR LORD AND SAVIOUR JESUS CHRIST,” The Robeson Family Bible, J.B. LIPPINCOTT & COMPANY: Philadelphia 1863, Mrs Julie Connors, St. Louis, Mo., Book. Index ? UNNAMED parent of 1 UNNAMED parent of 1 Catharine parent of spouse of 1.3 Edith E. spouse of 1.5.1 Rosalie C spouse of 1.2.3 ?? UNNAMED spouse of 1.5 BARNARD Agnes Jean “Jeanne” child of 1.4.3 Daniel Gerald spouse of 1.4.3 Elizabeth Ann “Betty” child of 1.4.3 Grace Eleanor “Gracie” child of 1.4.3 Sidney Lawrence parent of spouse of 1.4.3 BRUNNER Agnes R. 1.3.2 Edwin J 1.3.1 George spouse of 1.3 John parent of spouse of 1.3 Walter M. 1.3.3 GLATHAAR George F. 1.5.1 GLATTHAAR Agnes Sadie 1.4.1 Alfred Leo 1.2.4 August 1.4 Barbara 1.3 Bartholomew 1 Bernard Francis 1.4.2 Carl R. 1.2.2 Grace Caroline 1.4.3 Jack child of 1.2.2 Jean E. child of 1.5.1 Joseph A. 1.2 Kathrine A. child of 1.5.1 Lena 1.1 Lillian 1.2.5 Marjorie C. child of 1.2.2 Mary 1.5 Olga 1.2.1 Richard D. child of 1.5.1 Walter Jr. child of 1.2.3 Walter J. 1.2.3 HANKE Mary parent of spouse of 1.2 McQUEENY Eleanor “Ella” Theresa parent of spouse of 1.4.3 OETTER Lee spouse of 1.2.5 OTTER Thomas child of 1.2.5 PATTIE Augustus D. spouse of 1.2.1 Richard child of 1.2.1 PHIPPS UNNAMED parent of spouse of 1.2.2 RICHARDS Caroline parent of spouse of 1.4 SIEBERT Justina “Stena” spouse of 1.4 Louis C. parent of spouse of 1.4 STAGNER UNNAMED parent of spouse of 1.2.2 Lois spouse of 1.2.2 THORAND Joseph Sr. parent of spouse of 1.2 Theresa spouse of 1.2 TRENZ Barbara spouse of 1 ————————————————————————————————————————————— Please report corrections or additions to... Allen Lee Yoder Seattle, Wa. 98102

Hi, Jean! Where have you been hiding? Dorothy and I are in the middle of proofing the St. Francis Church in Aviston's burial records to put online with the cemetery reading. One of the names that intrigues me is the STROOT name. It is a rather old family name there in this cemetery and it seems to have several spellings in the cemetery as well as in the church records. I am just curious, so if you don't know, it is no biggie. I was wondering if the names Stroot, Strootmann, Strootbehrens, Stroothman and Strootbernds are all variations of the same family name. Thanks and I hope you get your photo resent. Are your Netemeyers related to the Evelyn and Conrad folks who have been on the list lately? They went to a house that is being renovated by a Netemeyer in Damiansville. Gloria

A while back, someone sent me a lovely photo from Father Gerhard Netemeyer's First Mass, June 1926, which showed a whole lot of Netemeyer children in their best Sunday clothes standing with the priests. Either through change of computer error or just user error (my brain is swiss cheese a lot lately) I cannot locate the photo anywhere on my hard drive. Could the kind soul who sent it in the first place, please re-send it to me? I would greatly appreciate it. I have the 'scuzzy' printout I made when I first received it but I hadn't gotten around to cleaning up my photo directories until now and the file is nowhere to be found. I hope someone still has it. Thanks in advance. -- Jean Family Tree Branches in Effingham County Illinois, Missouri, Indiana, Texas, California: ZACHA, KOLLMANN, STROOT, KAMPSCHRADER, Family Tree Branches in Clinton County Illinois: SANTEL, ARENTSEN, WELLEN, NETEMEYER, BAAHLMANN, KOLLMANN, STROOT, KAMPSCHRADER Family Tree Branches in Sheboygan, Janesville, and Milwaukee, Wisconsin: KOEHLER, MANSKE/MANZKE, ZIMMERMANN, MUELLER/MILLER, SOMMER(S), MITCHONKE, RAND, RAML http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/k/o/e/Jean-Z-Koehler http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~jeanzk http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=jeanzk Transcribing the 1920 Clinton County Census for the USGenWeb Census Project; visit it at: http://www.us-census.org/

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ig.2ADE/172 Message Board Post: Edwin W BERRY - b July 12, 1877; d June 11, 1956 - Clinton co Parents - Samuel Edwin Berry (1850 - 1877); Martha Jane WILTON (1852 - 1939) Edwin W Berry married Caroline Rebecca Koeline Mar 1, 1908 2 known children of Edwin and Caroline: Edwin E Berry (1916 - 1991) Velda (or Nelda) - b abt 1922 In 1930, they were living in Huey A neighbor said that Velda/Nelda and her father moved to Centralia. Later, Velda went 'west', 'maybe to Colorado'. Would like to find Velda/Nelda. Don't know if she married or not. In 1939, a WILTON relative wrote a 'family history' letter to her son, saying that Ed Berry (Velda's father) had the Family Bible. Would like to find the information contained in that Family Bible. Any leads would be much appreciated. Mary Shackelton [email protected]

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Please remove my e-mail address from your list. Thank you. -----Original Message----- From: Dorothy Falk [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 9:09 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ILCLINTON] Emery Moore and Sindy (Marshall) Moore A first teaser - Have you looked at the Illinois marriages at http://www.sos.state.il.us/GenealogyMWeb/marrsrch.html Just insert the Moore and Marshall surnames and leave it at Statewide. Most Counties in the State did not have anything more on marriages besides the names and date and person that performed the marriage until 1878. They are not in the Clinton Co. 1860 census. I'll check other censuses this evening if no one else responds during the day. ----- Original Message ----- From: Laurin Grabowski To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 6:39 AM Subject: [ILCLINTON] Emery Moore and Sindy (Marshall) Moore Hello everyone. I am new to this list, and fairly new to researching my genealogy. I am looking for information on my 3G grandparents--Emery Moore and Sindy (Marshall) Moore. All that I know about them is from my 2G grandmother's (Annie Elizabeth Moore Fie) obituary. It said that she was the child of Emery Moore and Sindy (Marshall) Moore, and that she spent all of her life in Carlyle, Sandoval and Central City. Annie was born in 1870, so I am guessing Emery and Sindy were born somewhere between 1845 and 1855. I know that a female relative in that line was a Sioux indian who was adopted. I have no confirmation on who that was, but I think it might be Sindy. As I understand it, adoption records for Native American children weren't that good. Any information or tips for finding information in Clinton county would be appreciated. Thanks in advance! (Oh, how I wish I had been interested in genealogy when my grandma was still alive! I am just kicking myself!) Laurin ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

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Thanks, Linda, I would appreciate any information I can get on the Stroud surname. My husband's relatives were mostly from Granite City, Illinois. What is your mother's cousin's name? Maybe I can give them some information - Edwardsville and Granite City are not that far apart. I have other people on the internet that have Stroud information. Most of my husband's relatives are dead. There are two uncles left, but they were not much help when it came to do the family tree. My husband's cousin has helped me a lot gathering information on the Stroud name. Phyllis (Kues) Stroud

Oh I remember meeting you at the Aviston cemetery, I was visiting my mother's cousin today she was here from New Mexico, and her last name happened to be Stroud, I new it rung a bell somewhere. I don't know his parents names or anything but I knew they were looking for some of there relation. The story went that his family was origianlly from the Edwardsville area and they had moved to New Mexico to help someone out that was sick and stayed there. This was the first time they have been in area in 50 years tried to find some of his relatives but were unable. I do have a email address that I can try and find any information like his parents and such. There were alot of people visiting today couldn't get a one on one but I can investigate a little further if you would like. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2003 6:43 PM Subject: Re: [ILCLINTON] Stroud > Yes, I am looking for the STroud name. My husband is John Lawrence Stroud. > His parents were LaVerne Lietz and Delmer Leroy Stroud. His parents were > Mamie Pearce and Melvin Stroud. I have traced the Stroud name to John Marshall > Stroud who married Rebecca Corzine. > > Phyllis (Kues) Stroud > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Netwitz. Are your virus definitions up to date?] > > --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Netwitz. Are your virus definitions up to date?]

Yes, I am looking for the STroud name. My husband is John Lawrence Stroud. His parents were LaVerne Lietz and Delmer Leroy Stroud. His parents were Mamie Pearce and Melvin Stroud. I have traced the Stroud name to John Marshall Stroud who married Rebecca Corzine. Phyllis (Kues) Stroud

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Dear Olivia Thank you so very much for the data on the Berndsens. Could you please answer another question. Do you know who are the parents of Mary Winter, wife of Herman H. Berndsen, who married April 30, 1878 in Damiansville, IL. ?? Conrad's mother, Elizabeth Winter born 1894, is the oldest daughter of John Henry Winter and Gertrude Leonard. They must be related, but I stay confused. Could you please enlighten me on Mary Winter?? Thank you again for sharing your previous data on this family. Evelyn