In a message dated 10/26/03 1:19:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Anna Elisabeth Nachbar page 11 record 143 > > kind regards, > > Daniella Gidaly > Born Clinton County, died 29 Aug 1878 at age 1-0-6 in Beaver Prairie [Clinton County] of summer complaints; buried 31 August [no burial place given]. Sorry for the delay, Laura

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Ubben, Strake, Scheer, Schuller, Kemper Classification: Will Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ig.2ADE/176 Message Board Post: Will of Gerhard Ubben, Clinton Co., IL I, Gerhard Ubben of the Village of Breese, in the County of Clinton, and State of Illinois, of the age of seventy three years and being of sound mind and memory do hereby make public and declare this my last Will and Testament in manner following that is to say: First -- It is my will that my funeral expenses and all my debts be fully paid. Second - I give, devise and bequeath unto my daughter Mary Strake Five (5) Dollars, unto my my son Bernard Ubben, Five (5) Dollars, unto my daughter Catharine Kemper, Five (5) Dollars, unto my daughter Helena (large blank spot), Five (5) Dollars, and unto my stepson Joseph Scheer, Five (5) Dollars, and all the rest of my Estate, real personal and mixed of whatsoever description and whereso situate, whether heretofore or hereafter acquired which I shall have or be entitled to at the time of my decease, and which shall remain after the payment of all my just debts, of the expense of my funeral and of the above legacies, I give devise, and bequest to my beloved wife Anna Maria Ubben, during her natural life, and that at her death, all the property aforesaid, to be bequeathed, or so much thereof as may remain unexpense to be equally divided between my daughter Mary Strake, son Bernard Ubben, my daughter Catherine Kemper, my daughter Helena (large blank spot), and my stepson Jose! ph Scheer and their heirs and assigns forever. I hereby revoke and annul all wills and codicils heretofore by me made, and appoint my son Bernard Ubben, the executor of this my last will and testament. In witness whereof, I have hereunto set my hand seal the eighteenth day of February in the year of our Lord One Thousand Eight Hundred and Ninety Eight. Gerhard Ubben (his mark) The above instrument, consisting of one sheet, was now subscribed by Gerhard Ubben, the Testator, in the presence of each of us, and was at the same time declared by him to be his last will and testament and we, at his request, sign our names hereto in his presence as attesting witnesses. Frank Funke of Breese, IL Theo Bruegge of Breese IL Filed Oct. 23, 1899 Petition for Probate of will filed Jan. 13, 1902 Albert Strake in the matter of the last will and testament of Gerhard Ubben deceased for probate of will and letters testamentary. To the Hon. Joseph Hauke, Judge of the County Court of Clinton County in the State of Illinois. The petition of the undersigned Albert Strake respectfully represents that Gerhard Ubben who was at the time of his death a resident of the county of Clinton, State of Illinois, departed this life at Breese in Clinton County, State of Illinois on or about the 20th day of October A.D. 1899, leaving a last will and testament, duly signed, published and attested, as believed by your petitioner, and which by him is herewith presented to your Honor for Probate. That said Will is subscribed by Frank Funke and Theo Bruegge as witnesses tot he execution thereof. The said Testors in his said last will nominated and appointed Bernard Ubben executor thereof. And this petition further show that the said Gerhard Ubben died seized and possessed of Real Estate, ! valued at about six hundred dollars. That said deceased left surviving him no widow but the following persons as his only heirs at law legatees; and their respective places of residence so far as known are as follows: Bernard Ubben 12th & Wright Streets, St. Louis, Missouri Catherine (Katy) Kemper, St. Louis, Missouri Helena (Lena) Schuller, Oakland, California Mary Strake, Breese, Clinton Co., Illinois Joseph Scheer 2755 Magnslia Avenue, St. Louis, Missouri That your Petitioner is the grantee of all of said heirs and legatees except said Mary Strake as to the Real Estate of which the said Gerhard Ubben died seized and is desired of having the will probated. That your petitioner paid all the debts of the said deceased. Signed Albert Strake, January 6, 1902

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Cemetery Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ig.2ADE/175 Message Board Post: We now have the Historic Atlas of Illinois Counties available directly online at the following URL: http://www.har-indy.com/il_map/il_index.html Each Atlas CD consists of 9 or more bordering counties making up 1 of 11 Zones that depict all of Illinois' 102 counties. Each Zone Atlas contains high resolution (400 dpi) scanned images of vintage 1876 county maps that are presented in Adobe Portable Document Format (PDF). Each county map may include the following 19th century features: * roads, railroads and canals * cities, towns and villages * post offices and government sites * one-room schoolhouses, churches and cemeteries * rivers, streams and ferries * racetracks, fairgrounds and picnic groves * industrial sites, furnaces and mills * early homesteads and farms * and much, much more The Historic Atlas of Illinois series is an invaluable aid to Genealogists, Historians and researchers in search of 19th century Illinois places. The Adobe Acrobat Reader for MS Windows is needed to view, zoom, pan and print from the PDF map images contained in this atlas; and is included free on each CD. No other software is necessary. Best Regards, Rich Green

Linda and all, Yes the microfilm reader printer at the Breese Library is ready to go. The Breese Historical society has microfilmed the Breese Journal from 1928 thru 1932 and 1964 thru 1968. These films are not available thru the library system, but are in the library in Breese The state didn't microfilm them for some reason. Granted the newspapers from 1928 thru 1932 were in very bad shape, and aren't complete, however we captured what was left of them for others to see. Sorry to say but because of their poor condition the microfilm company couldn't microfilm them in order. We have ordered copies of all other microfilms that the state has in their inventory. At last month's meeting Kay Chago stated they should be here in 6 weeks. We have a meeting next Wednesday at the Breese Activity Center (the old Civil defense Building and currently the Senior Citizen Center). Unfortunately I will be out of town and will not be there to check whether the films are still on schedule. By the way, the Breese Historical Society has an email site that I currently control, if anyone has anything that they want to ask us they can email us at [email protected], I check the mail every two to three days. John

Does anyone know if the new microfilm machine at Breese is ready to go? and if do they have the copies of Breese Journals there?

Have you been able to find Lucinda Jane in the 1860 census? I don't see her or most of her family listed in the Clinton County 1860. The Crawford families that are listed are: (1) William H., 38, Ga, Elizabeth, Nancy, f, 18, Ga, John. and (2) Thomas, 24, IL, E. M. (male) 21, Sarah, 19, Samantha 2, John, 5. Based on the 1850 census, Thomas could be Lucinda's brother. Marriage licenses in those days did not include names of parents. Have you found a death certificate for Lucinda Jane? Do you know what church they might have attended? There is a probate box in the Carlyle Court House, Circuit Clerk's office, http://www.clintonco.org/circuit_clerk.htm for Zach Crawford, E. Crawford, Executor. There is no telling what might be inside that envelope - you could always hope for a will or an estate settlement which lists children. I don't know that this is the correct Zach Crawford, but it might be worth a try. The man listed after him died in 1849, but "your" Zach was in the 1850 census. There are no dates on my old listing so I can't confirm that it is chronological. There are also probate boxes for Alexander Crawford of whom Z. Crawford was the executor, (this is listed before the one above) and for Jas. A. or Jos. A. Crawford for whom J. B. Williams was executor, and for E. M. Crawford for whom Thomas J. Crawford was the executor. Allow several hours for browsing through at least 4 probate boxes (they are just envelopes). Copies are 50 cents per page. Someone in that office will help you check the computer to see if there are any other Crawfords listed. Be sure to ask for all of them at one time so they don't have to make 2 trips down to the basement to the storage area. The 1850 Census was as of 1 June, so Lucinda Jane would have been 7, but it would not be unusual to have a frazzled respondent give a wrong age unintentionally. With the children listed in such perfect stair-steps, it would appear to be safe that this Lucinda is the daughter of this Zachariah. You could get a copy of the original census page if that would help fill your need for additional documentation. Let me know privately if you want more info on probate boxes, etc. Dorothy ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 9:16 PM Subject: [ILCLINTON] Lucinda Jane Crawford This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Crawford Welch Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ig.2ADE/173 Message Board Post: My grandmother's name is Maude Viola Welch. She was born Sep 1, 1871 in Centraila, Marion County, Illinois. Her parents are Charles and Lucinda Jane Crawford Welch. They were married Dec 13, 1860 in Clinton County, Illinois. Lucinda Jane Crawford was born in April 1843 in Illinois. The 1850 census District 68 of Clinton County, Illinois shows a Lucinda Crawford age 6, daughter of Zachariah Crawford. I need some additional evidence that shows that my great-grandmother, Lucinda Jane Crawford, may be the daughter of Zachariah Crawford. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

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>Nothing in 1881 History book on Theener, etc. or Dittmer.  The only Detmer is Mary, married to Gerhard H. Otke, she came from Hanover, Ger. in 1837, they are patrons of the book, lived in Breese Township. I just happened to be looking through the St. Dominic Church Baptism records (a Breese church) yesterday. There are Detmers in the early years of these Baptism records. These records are on microfilm at the Belleville, IL and St. Louis County, MO (Headquarters branch only)libraries. Can you get to either of these places? Gloria

Aug. 12, 1904, "Union Banner' Boulder news, infant child of Mr. & Mrs. George Bright died last Friday, buried in the Prairie Chapel cemetery. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 10:57 PM Subject: [ILCLINTON] Re: Bright Family > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ig.2ADE/3.1.1 > > Message Board Post: > > i am 1 of many greart grand kids of george washington bright i was born in decatur to chester bright jr.and johnchester bright > is grand father > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Netwitz. Are your virus definitions up to date?] > > --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Netwitz. Are your virus definitions up to date?]

Bob, I went through the "T" index three times looking for any Ferdinand and saw none. Nor is there any Ferdinand under the "F". Since you told me what that name is supposed to be, that 1870 image for Household 99 on Page 360A could also be transcribed as Teener. If anyone ever uses the computer to assist in transcribing it (like Ancestry.com?) it might come out something like Fuenr. And no Dittmers in 1860 or 1870 although there are some Detmers later on. Nothing in 1881 History book on Theener, etc. or Dittmer. The only Detmer is Mary, married to Gerhard H. Otke, she came from Hanover, Ger. in 1837, they are patrons of the book, lived in Breese Township. Good luck in finding where Ferdinand stopped enroute to St. Louis and Catherine. Dorothy ----- Original Message ----- From: bnjschr To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 7:04 PM Subject: [ILCLINTON] Clinton, 1860, THEENER Looking for Ferdinand and Catherine/Katherine Dittmer THEENER in 1860 Clinton Co, IL. He was born in 1837 in Germany, and immigrated to the US in 1855. She was born in St Louis in 1845. They were married in 1865 in St Louis, but are found in the 1870 and 1880 Clinton County censuses. They lived in Clinton County until circa 1890, then moving to Carroll County, Missouri, Surname is variously spelled Theener, Thuener, Theiner, and in the 1870 census it even appears to be "Tums". Even though the surname is apparently misspelled, all of the family members fit those listed in the 1880. Any assistance will be appreciated. Robert Schroeder ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

>From the St. Louis-MO List: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- In a message dated 10/16/03 11:02:54 PM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Hello All, > > I have recently completed transcribing the names of passengers to New > Orleans who arrived in Jan, Feb & March 1845. You can find this project > here... > > New Orleans Passenger Lists - Filling in the Gaps > http://www.genesearch.com/neworleans/ > > There are approximately 3300 passengers on about 158 ships from foreign > ports. You can search for passengers by using the search box on the > opening page. You will find immigrants from Germany, England, Ireland, > France, Spain, Mexico, Cuba, and many other countries. About a third of > the passengers came from Germany. > > For those of you looking for New Orleans arrivals at other times see... > > New Orleans Passenger List Research Guide > http://home.att.net/~wee-monster/neworleans.html > > Feel free to share this post with other mailing lists or researchers. > > Good luck with your searches. > > Regards, > Joe > [email protected] > > ==== StLouis-MO Mailing List ==== > Visit the St. Louis website http://www.rootsweb.com/~mostloui >

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I am sorry, I have never been there nor do I have the address. My branch of Wilkens moved to Kansas the first part of the last century. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 10:00 PM Subject: [ILCLINTON] Address requested > Dorothy, > Could you e-mail me the address of the Wilken Dairy Farm? It is on Highway > 50, just west of Carlyle, IL. > Thank you in advance. > Henry Schaper, Sr. > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

I don't think there will be much more info on Mary/Polly. I don't see anything for Edmunds/Doughtery/any spellings on Clinton County's 1840 census http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilclint2/census/1840clintonabc.htm I see Levi's family in 1850 in http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilclint2/census/1850census004.htm There are probate boxes for at least these people if you think any of the earlier ones might refer to her. My old listing does not have dates: Edmunds, John, Elisha Edmunds, Executor Edmunds, Levi, R. N. Ramsay, Executor Doughtery, Arth., J. W. Davenport, Executor Doughtry, Robert, John Doughtry, Executor Doughtery, Benj. T., Jas. Boswell Dougherty, C. H., A. H. White Dougherty, J. L., Robert dougherty, Executor Dougherty, John, A. A. Hall, Executor Daughtery, A. W., Ben Daugherty, Executor If you need more info on probate boxes, just ask me directly, not to the List. ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 6:37 PM Subject: [ILCLINTON] Mary (Polly) Doughty (Doty) (Daugherty) (Daughtry) Edmonds (Edmunds) This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ig.2ADE/174 Message Board Post: Searching for any information on Mary (Polly) Doughty who was married to Levi Edmonds (Edmunds) Sr. They had 6 children, William Carroll, Robert Emmett, Emily (Emilie) Jane, Caroline, John E., and Levi Jr. It is believed she died in Clinton Co. abt. 1844. She was married to Levi Sr. in 1829 in Clinton Co. Any additional info would be greatly appreciated. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Dorothy, Could you e-mail me the address of the Wilken Dairy Farm? It is on Highway 50, just west of Carlyle, IL. Thank you in advance. Henry Schaper, Sr.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ig.2ADE/174 Message Board Post: Searching for any information on Mary (Polly) Doughty who was married to Levi Edmonds (Edmunds) Sr. They had 6 children, William Carroll, Robert Emmett, Emily (Emilie) Jane, Caroline, John E., and Levi Jr. It is believed she died in Clinton Co. abt. 1844. She was married to Levi Sr. in 1829 in Clinton Co. Any additional info would be greatly appreciated.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ig.2ADE/3.1.1 Message Board Post: i am 1 of many greart grand kids of george washington bright i was born in decatur to chester bright jr.and johnchester bright is grand father

Recently I posted a query on this list for any information on my Glatthaar, Trenz, Thorand & Brunner connections to Trenton, Clinton Co., Ill. What I received back from Gloria was at least 25 names with relationships, gravesites, church records and German translation in some cases. Oh yes, and hints on further research on these names! I am blown away and I would be remiss if I didn't give honorable mention to: Gloria :-) Dorothy and Carol This is a great website and developing all the time. Great graphics! Thanks for making this happen. Allen L. Yoder Seattle, Wa.

Looking for Ferdinand and Catherine/Katherine Dittmer THEENER in 1860 Clinton Co, IL. He was born in 1837 in Germany, and immigrated to the US in 1855. She was born in St Louis in 1845. They were married in 1865 in St Louis, but are found in the 1870 and 1880 Clinton County censuses. They lived in Clinton County until circa 1890, then moving to Carroll County, Missouri, Surname is variously spelled Theener, Thuener, Theiner, and in the 1870 census it even appears to be "Tums". Even though the surname is apparently misspelled, all of the family members fit those listed in the 1880. Any assistance will be appreciated. Robert Schroeder

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Crawford Welch Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ig.2ADE/173 Message Board Post: My grandmother's name is Maude Viola Welch. She was born Sep 1, 1871 in Centraila, Marion County, Illinois. Her parents are Charles and Lucinda Jane Crawford Welch. They were married Dec 13, 1860 in Clinton County, Illinois. Lucinda Jane Crawford was born in April 1843 in Illinois. The 1850 census District 68 of Clinton County, Illinois shows a Lucinda Crawford age 6, daughter of Zachariah Crawford. I need some additional evidence that shows that my great-grandmother, Lucinda Jane Crawford, may be the daughter of Zachariah Crawford.