I am looking for information on the Mathias and Isaac Meisenheimer family in Flora and Xenia. Mathias and his wife Mildred Elliott in Clay Co. and gave birth to a son named Isaac in 1825. Issaac married a Fanny Morefield in 1845 in Clay Co. They gave birth to many children and many of the children were farmed out to different family. Any information on these families while they lived in Clay Co. would be greatly appreciated. Also if someone has access to a census for 1820 to 1850, it would be greatly appreciated. I have much of the line complete and am searching for historical information on the family and exactly where they lived and how they lived. Sincerely, David

Does anyone know where I can obtain a copy of "INGRAHAM-LOLLAR SOUVENIR"? as mentioned below? Any information will be appreciated. There is information about this Ingraham family in "INGRAHAM-LOLLAR SOUVENIR" by Elder F. M. Lollar. It was first published about 1912/13, but was recently reprinted by a church in Ingraham, Illinois, but I don't remember which one. This booklet has a picture of John Ingraham, born New York, November 28, 1808, died February 18, 1879, son of Philo Ingraham and Arvilla Barney. John's wife was Eliza Besley, born September 13, 1813, died April 22, 1875, daughter of Samuel C. Beslely and Elizabeth Boggs. There is also a picture of Elder Harrison Ingraham, born in Wabash County, IL, July 12, 1812, died September 25, 1876. It does not give a name for his parents. He married Elizabeth Ann Turner, November 13, 1838. She was born Nov. 13, 1821 and died January 26, 1904. Daniel Ingraham, second son of Philo Ingraham and Arvilla Barney, was born July 8, 1804, Alleghany County, NY. His first marriage was to Rebecca White, nee Taylor, and his second was to Nancy Kenley, born July 12, 1821, died August 2, 1906. He died September 12, 1866. I am working on the Kenley family. Arvilla Barney's parents were William Barney and Jerusha Jefferson. It says, "John was the father of Philo, and Philo was the father of John..." There is more about this family in this little book. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

To those working on the Ingraham family in IL, There is history of them in the Book " Genealogical Guide to the Early Settlers of America. Mine is in there and they came on to IL. Mine is Elizabeth Ingraham b. in early 1600's came to America between 1638-1642, with her father (Richard Ingraham to Rohoboth, Mass b.?, he d. 16 Aug, 1683 at Northhampton, Mass, he is son of Sir Arthur Ingraham, b. 1595-1600, married ? Mallory and this Sir Arthur Ingraham's father has the same name, & b. 1570 d. 1655, then his father is Randolph Ingraham . Randolph, son of Ingeliam, English ancester, 1138. The book mentioned above has this about them, { " The name from a parish in the hundred of Hoppin, County of Norfolk, Eng. A town on low ground , meadow or pasture. }Ingram, Ingraham-- from Saxon Engel, angel and rein, pure as an angel. My Ancestor Elizabeth Ingraham, married 4 Aug. 1647, to Richard Bullock, b. 1622, Essex County, Eng. d. 22 Nov. 1667 Rehoboth, Mass. the next generation is their son Samuel Bullock b. 1648, d. 1717, Rehoboth, Mass, m. Thankful Rouse, 26 May 1675. The next gen. is their son Seth Bullock, b. 26 Sept. 1693, m. 18 Jan. 1718, Swansea, Mass to Experience Salisbury. next gen. is their daug. Hannah, b. 1730, Rehoboth, Mass, m. 25 Mar. 1753, to Benjamin Franklin Smith, b. 4 July 1731, Rehoboth, Mass d. 1794, next gen. their son with the same name, Benjamin Franklin Smith, b. 9 Sept. 1760, a Rev. War. vet. and WAS THE ANCESTOR WHO CAME TO ( Wabash or Edwards County IL), he married 31 Dec. 1787 at Attleboro, MA, to Levinia Ormsbee, b. 1760-1770 Rehoboth, MA, Benjamin F. died,. 8 Dec. 1838, Edwards Co. IL, He is my ancestor in the Daughters of the Revolution, (I am Erma Lee (Judkins) Masters. To continue the generations of my line is, a son of Benjamin F. & Levinia (Ormsbee) Smith, he is Ransler VanBuren Smith b. 25 June 1789, NY, died, 1841, Evansville, IN, married Mary Jane (Polly) Osgood, 1st. marriage, they came to Wabash Co. IL from NY, then their daughter, Rosella Smith, married Abner Turner, (source 1850 Wabash Co. IL census ). next gen. their son McDonel- McDonald Turner, m. Melvina E. Weir, 1873, White Co. IL, she died 10 years later in 1883, White Co. IL, Then their daughter is my grand mother, Nellie M. (Turner) Gray, m. Charlie M. Gray, in Pope Co. AR. next gen. Bessie S. (Gray) m. Walter Roy Judkins, in Pope Co. AR, last gen. me. Erma Lee (Judkins) Masters. Hope this helps some one, on the Ingraham's.

There is information about this Ingraham family in "INGRAHAM-LOLLAR SOUVENIR" by Elder F. M. Lollar. It was first published about 1912/13, but was recently reprinted by a church in Ingraham, Illinois, but I don't remember which one. This booklet has a picture of John Ingraham, born New York, November 28, 1808, died February 18, 1879, son of Philo Ingraham and Arvilla Barney. John's wife was Eliza Besley, born September 13, 1813, died April 22, 1875, daughter of Samuel C. Beslely and Elizabeth Boggs. There is also a picture of Elder Harrison Ingraham, born in Wabash County, IL, July 12, 1812, died September 25, 1876. It does not give a name for his parents. He married Elizabeth Ann Turner, November 13, 1838. She was born Nov. 13, 1821 and died January 26, 1904. Daniel Ingraham, second son of Philo Ingraham and Arvilla Barney, was born July 8, 1804, Alleghany County, NY. His first marriage was to Rebecca White, nee Taylor, and his second was to Nancy Kenley, born July 12, 1821, died August 2, 1906. He died September 12, 1866. I am working on the Kenley family. Arvilla Barney's parents were William Barney and Jerusha Jefferson. It says, "John was the father of Philo, and Philo was the father of John..." There is more about this family in this little book. Lucille Wattles << I am researching the ARVILLA (BARNEY) and PHILO INGRAM/INGRAHAM family who moved to Clay County FROM Wabash County, Illinois ca 1840. Any information will be appreciated. 1. ARVILLA8 BARNEY (WILLIAM BARNEY7 ****, DAVID BARNEY6, DANIEL BARNEY5, JOSEPH BARNEY4, JACOB BARNEY3, JACOB BARNEY/BERNEY2, EDWARD BARNEY/BERNEY1) was born September 12, 1782 in New York, and died September 19, 1854 in Pixley, Illinois. She married PHILO INGRAM/ INGRAHAM. Philo Ingram on his arrival in Illinois had two sons, William and Daniel. He settled on the N. E. quarter of section 20, where he lived till 1840 when he moved to Clay County, Illinois. He was a plain, industrious farmer and good citizen. "History of Edwards, Lawrence and Wabash Counties, Illinois" Children of ARVILLA BARNEY and PHILO INGRAHAM are: i. WILLIAM9 INGRAHAM. ii. DANIEL INGRAHAM. iii. ? INGRAHAM. iv. ? INGRAHAM. ______ >>

Not sure if this will help or not but I found this in the 1850 Clay Co., IL Census: #609/613 INGRAHAM Harrison, 38, Farmer, IL Elizabeth, 29, IL Mary E., 6, AR Vinetta, 1, female, IL MILLER, Colwell, 18, farmer, IL TURNER, Rebecca, 13, IL INGRAHAM, Arbella, 68, female, NH Living right next door is this INGRAHAM family: #610/614 INGRAHAM Dorman, 24,Farming, IL Evaline, 17, female, IL Hope this helps! Tricia Colcleasure Carothers **************************************************************************** ***** At 10:27 AM 3/5/99 PST, Orville Gaffke wrote: > >I am researching the ARVILLA (BARNEY) and PHILO INGRAM/INGRAHAM family >who moved to Clay County FROM Wabash County, Illinois ca 1840. Any >information will be appreciated. > >1. ARVILLA8 BARNEY (WILLIAM BARNEY7 ****, DAVID BARNEY6, DANIEL >BARNEY5, JOSEPH BARNEY4, JACOB BARNEY3, JACOB BARNEY/BERNEY2, EDWARD >BARNEY/BERNEY1) was born September 12, 1782 in New York, and died >September 19, 1854 in Pixley, Illinois. She married PHILO INGRAM/ >INGRAHAM. > Philo Ingram on his arrival in Illinois had two sons, William and >Daniel. He settled on the N. E. quarter of section 20, where he lived >till 1840 when he moved to Clay County, Illinois. He was a plain, >industrious farmer and good citizen. "History of Edwards, Lawrence and >Wabash Counties, Illinois" > >Children of ARVILLA BARNEY and PHILO INGRAHAM are: > i. WILLIAM9 INGRAHAM. > ii. DANIEL INGRAHAM. > iii. ? INGRAHAM. > iv. ? INGRAHAM. > > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > >

I am researching the ARVILLA (BARNEY) and PHILO INGRAM/INGRAHAM family who moved to Clay County FROM Wabash County, Illinois ca 1840. Any information will be appreciated. 1. ARVILLA8 BARNEY (WILLIAM BARNEY7 ****, DAVID BARNEY6, DANIEL BARNEY5, JOSEPH BARNEY4, JACOB BARNEY3, JACOB BARNEY/BERNEY2, EDWARD BARNEY/BERNEY1) was born September 12, 1782 in New York, and died September 19, 1854 in Pixley, Illinois. She married PHILO INGRAM/ INGRAHAM. Philo Ingram on his arrival in Illinois had two sons, William and Daniel. He settled on the N. E. quarter of section 20, where he lived till 1840 when he moved to Clay County, Illinois. He was a plain, industrious farmer and good citizen. "History of Edwards, Lawrence and Wabash Counties, Illinois" Children of ARVILLA BARNEY and PHILO INGRAHAM are: i. WILLIAM9 INGRAHAM. ii. DANIEL INGRAHAM. iii. ? INGRAHAM. iv. ? INGRAHAM. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Hi Shirley, You may have thought of this already, but is there any possibility the names were spelled differently somehow in 1870? Also, I discovered one fella who had been lost to me because he suddenly began using his middle name as his first, so while I was searching for William, he was in a census as Frederick. Good luck on your search! Pamela

Hi List I am still looking for thse people. I am stuck at this point on my BREWER family. Ann Alexander's first husband was a BREWER. She remarried Jeremiah Alexander ? CENSUS 1860/ they were in Clay Co Xenia CENSUS 1870? can't find them? CENSUS 1880 / they were in Wayne CO Indian Prairie twp I am pretty sure that they were around this same area ? But where? Thank you for all your help on this matter. Shirley

How many decedents of the WARREN family of Clay County, Illinois are on line? The reason I ask is I have the guest registry of the Warren Family Reunion at the park neer Flora, for the years 1939-1963. I can email copies if they are wanted. ** HC ** ------------------------------------ Homer Clydean Stanford Jr 4111 Tesota Drive Las Cruces, New Mexico 88011-7648 505-522-4002 web page www.zianet.com/hcstanford email hcstanford@zianet.com ------------------------------------

Census of 1870, Clay Co, IL compiled by Laura (Becky) McPeak and Patricia Hoyt, Louisvilee, IL 62858, published 1988 There is an Edward Mattingly age 27, b KY, living with John Mattingly, b 1832 Raywick, Marion Co and his wife Catherine McMannis, b1834, PA. Is this John's brother Edmond? What happened to him. There is also a child Mary A, (although the census indicates male child?) b c 1867 IL-is she the child of Edward (who she appears under) or the child of John and Catherine? There is also a newborn, Born Sep 1869 named Peter Price with this family, as well as John and Catherine's son Jeremiah. Who is this Peter Price? What happened to him? Melissa Thompson Alexander www.familytreemaker.com/users/a/l/e/Melissa-T-Alexander/ listowner: CECIL-L@rootsweb.com; KRUTSINGER-L@rootsweb.com Edmonds, WA USA

Found my folk-he traveled with in-laws-but no wonder I did not see it-they are listed as Martingly's-not Mattingly! As I expected-they traveled together-since my people don't seem to go it alone. 1860 Clay Co, IL Census Louisville TWP 1860 Census, Clay Co, IL Res 1144, Page 165, Louisville Thompson, Edward 33 m KY Mary J. 29 f KY Catherine 13 f KY atten school William 11 m KY atten school Peter 6 m IL atten school Nancy 5 f IL Martha 3 f IL Edward 6/12 m IL Res. 1145 Mattingly, John 26 m Farmer KY cannot read/write (actually in as Martingly) Catherine 24 f PA Jeremiah 4 m IL Res.1146 Mattingly, Nancy 58 f KY Nancy J. 17 f KY James E. 16 m KY (also as Martingly) Melissa Thompson Alexander www.familytreemaker.com/users/a/l/e/Melissa-T-Alexander/ listowner: CECIL-L@rootsweb.com; KRUTSINGER-L@rootsweb.com Edmonds, WA USA

Do you know these families? 1860 Clay Co, IL census, Suttons Point Res 1138 Calvin Speaks 28 male Farmer b IL Telitha A. 25 female IN William W. 6 male IL Rebecca A. 2/12 female IL Res 1139 Jessee Meeks 47 male Farmer b KY Louisa 40 female KY Edmond T. 20 male KY John W. 17 male KY Jesse B. 12 male KY Res 1140 Leander 44 male KY Jesse P. 15 male KY William I. 14 male Ky Res 1141 James Speak 29 male Farmer b IL Catherine 24 F b OH Henry T. 5 M IL Mahala E. 3 F IL Mary E. 4/12 IL Melissa Thompson Alexander

Interested in the Meeks family of Clay Co (as per 1860 census) and how they tie into the Speaks of the same period. Please contact me. Melissa Thompson Alexander mada@cmc.net www.familytreemaker.com/users/a/l/e/Melissa-T-Alexander/ listowner: CECIL-L@rootsweb.com; KRUTSINGER-L@rootsweb.com Edmonds, WA USA

I've noted some discussion about the surname SONGER and am wondering if someone can tell me the place of birth of Orlando SONGER; he was born 5 Feb 1851. He married Mary Evaline Misenheimer 11 Oct 1874 in Xenia, Clay County. Thanks, Karen Venable kvenable@pe.net

Need help sorting out the ColglazierColclasures that immigrated to Clay Co from Washington and Orange Co's of Indiana. Would someone who has in depth information on this clan contact me? Melissa Thompson Alexander www.familytreemaker.com/users/a/l/e/Melissa-T-Alexander/ listowner: CECIL-L@rootsweb.com; KRUTSINGER-L@rootsweb.com Edmonds, WA USA

Tricia, I was just putting in the info from Tom on the 1840, 1850, and 1860 census on Songer and I searched and searched for Giles Songer but he's not on my tree. My ancestor, Jacob Songer was born in VA in 1802. Giles was born in 1800 in VA. Also, there is a John Songer born in VA who appears to have been born in 1805 and an Abraham Songer born in VA in 1807. Do you have any ancestrial info on Giles Songer? Are these men perhaps brothers who migrated together? The Xenia Then and Now book says Abraham Songer (1773 PA - 1822) and Catherine Sawyer Songer (1773 MD - ?) had several children: Samuel, Fred, Jacob, John, Abram, James, Giles, Catherine, Rebecca E, and Elizabeth. I'm hoping that this is the same family as the brothers (??) above. The information is confirmed in the History of Clay Co. book and it claims that Abram is the only surviving sibling as of 1884. Your last message said "Giles Songer settled in Trenton township, Grundy county, in the year of 1846, and gave his attention to farming. He was a native of Indiana, and was born in Washington county, in that State, on the 25th of October, 1818, the son of Abram and Catherine Songer, both natives of Pennsylvania." which also confirms the info above. If you are interested, I can transcribe the whole page on Songers that the book lists. It indicates migration from Germany to Pennsylvania to Indiana to Illinois. Thanks, Nancy

Does anyone have the 1920 Clay Co. Census? I am looking for John & Stella Goen family in Songer Twp. Thank you, Carol Logan

A History of Grundy County, Missouri, by James Everett Ford, Trenton Mo. 1908. Pg. 674 C.A.HAYNES b. 15 Aug 1872, m. Clara Songer on 6 May 1896. She was b.3 Feb. 1872 in Trenton Township. They were the parents of two children: Lester S. b. 16 Oct 1898 and Carroll B., born 22 Jan 1903. Pg. 335. bio of Lesley P. Robinson, says he "married to Miss Nellie Songer, daughter of John Songer, of Trenton, Nov. 11, 1908". Pg. 796-797 LYMAN T. SONGER was born in Grundy County six miles northeast of Trenton Oct. 23, 1862. He is a son of Giles and Nancy (Childers) Songer. He lived on a farm with his parents until married, then went to farming for himself. In 1901 Mr. Songer was appointed rural mail carrier for Route 1, which position he has held since. He lives on a 160 acres farm three miles northeast of the city limits. Mr. Songer has long been prominent in the state association of rural carriers, serving as president of that organization until Sept. 1909. He is also a member of the National Executive committee and a delegate to the national convention at Rochester, New York. He has attended every national convention since the organization of the association. He uses an automobile to carry the mail in good weather. Mr. Songer was married July 4, 1883 to Miss Margaret Rains who died in Feb. 1902, leaving one child, Judson, born Sept. 21, 1885. He was married Jan. 18, 1905 to Mrs. E. V. Veatch, daughter of B.B. Gill.

Trenton Twp. Grundy Co. Mo. 22 Aug 1870 Pg. 45 (printed pg. 387) Dwell # 322 Fam. # 326 SONGER Giles 52 M W Farmer born? " Nancy A. 51 F W Ky John R. 23 M W Mo Franklin 17 M W Albert 20 M W Missouri A. 15 F W Elizabeth 14 F W Lyman F 7 M W Now, as to the Grundy Co. Histories. In the Birdsall and Dean History of Grundy County, pg. 335, there is a bio of Giles Songer. "Giles Songer settled in Trenton township, Grundy county, in the year of 1846, and gave his attention to farming. He was a native of Indiana, and was born in Washington county, in that State, on the 25th of October, 1818, the son of Abram and Catherine Songer, both natives of Pennsylvania. When quite small his parents removed to Clay county, Illinois, where he grew up and received his education. On January 21st 1837, Mr. Songer was united in matrimony to Miss Nancy Childers. Miss Childers was a native of Lincoln county, Kentucky, and was born July 20, 1820. This union was blessed with thirteen children, eight sons and five daughters, eight of whom are still living. William, the eldest, was born January 13, 1838, and died April 10, 1869, leaving a wife and three children; Julia, born February 27, 1839, became the wife of Joseph Reeder, and died December 10, 1870 leaving her husband and six children to mourn her loss; Joseph W., born March 1, 1842, is a resident of Grundy county; Mary A. was born November 7, 1843, and is Mrs. William Luke; Thomas B., born October 25, 1845, died in the U. S. hospital at St. Louis, November 18, 1864, having served during the war in company A., Forty-fourth regiment of Missouri volunteer infantry; John B., born November 9, 1847, is still living in Grundy county; Albert G., born December 17, 1850, died February 10, 1871; Richard H., born September 19, 1851, died March 25, 1852; Franklin J., born February 27, 1853; Missouri A., born February 4, 1855; Elizabeth, born Febraury 11, 1857; Flora Belle, born July 6, 1859, and Lyman T., born October 25, 1862. Mrs Songer is still living. Mr. Songer became one of the prominent citizens of Grundy county, and served in several official capacities, having been elected county judge two or three terms. After a long life of usefulness, he died on the 13th of December, 1880, in the seventy-third year of his age". Pg. 338, same book. JOHN R. SONGER, Son of Giles and Nancy Songer, was born in Grundy county, Missouri, November 9, 1847. Farming has been his business since he has been old enough, and his life has been spent upon the same section of land he was born upon. Mr. Songer was united in marriage to Miss Nannie V. Shanklin, December 31, 1870. She was also a native of this county, born May 27, 1847. They have had four children: Carrie, born February 3, 1872; Fredrick W., born March 14, 1874; Homer, born March 28, 1876, died April 10, 1876; and Carl A., born February 3, 1878. Mr. Songer has a good farm and is one of the prosperous farmers of the township, and he and his wife are highly esteemed by their neighbors.

More interesting info for you SONGER researchers. A very nice woman looked this up for me and sent it yesterday. These are folks who came out of Clay Co., IL and ended up in Grundy Co., MO. Enjoy! Tricia **************************************************************************** ******** A History of Grundy County, Missouri, by James Everett Ford, Trenton Mo. 1908. Pg. 674 ( I will just excerpt from this one) C.A.HAYNES b. 15 Aug 1872, m. Clara Songer on 6 May 1896. She was b.3 Feb. 1872 in Trenton Township. They were the parents of two children: Lester S. b. 16 Oct 1898 and Carroll B., born 22 Jan 1903. Pg. 335. bio of Lesley P. Robinson, says he "married to Miss Nellie Songer, daughter of John Songer, of Trenton, Nov. 11, 1908". Pg. 796-797 LYMAN T. SONGER was born in Grundy County six miles northeast of Trenton Oct. 23, 1862. He is a son of Giles and Nancy (Childers) Songer. He lived on a farm with his parents until married, then went to farming for himself. In 1901 Mr. Songer was appointed rural mail carrier for Route 1, which position he has held since. He lives on a 160 acres farm three miles northeast of the city limits. Mr. Songer has long been prominent in the state association of rural carriers, serving as president of that organization until Sept. 1909. He is also a member of the National Executive committee and a delegate to the national convention at Rochester, New York. He has attended every national convention since the organization of the association. He uses an automobile to carry the mail in good weather. Mr. Songer was married July 4, 1883 to Miss Margaret Rains who died in Feb. 1902, leaving one child, Judson, born Sept. 21, 1885. He was married Jan. 18, 1905 to Mrs. E. V. Veatch, daughter of B.B. Gill.