Dear Lura, Thanks for the speedy lookup, you're a great helper. So far I have no idea where these folks came from other than Josiah's son (my gg grandfather, Murray P. HARRIS) was born 1854 in IN. Where in IN I don't know. So I do not know if this J.H. HARRIS is the same. The other children of my Josiah were younger than Murray per a letter that Josiah wrote. You see, Murray married in Jasper Co., IL in Feb. 1870 to Margaret SMITH and they had an infant son born Dec 1870. By March of 1871 Murray had "deserted without provocation" Margaret and infant. Also in March of 1871 Murray found himself in trouble in Phelps Co., MO. Long sad story made short, Murray ended up in the MO State Penitentiary and according to all accounts it was a real raw deal and was eventually granted a Governor's pardon after a letter from Josiah that was written in Pana, Christian Co., IL in 1872, stating that he, Josiah, was very ill, near death (or so he thought) and that he had several small children and a wife that needed for Murray to come home and care for the family. He was to have been released from prison in Aug 1872 but I have no idea if he came home, if Josiah indeed died or what ever became of any of them. I have never found any of them on the census. Meanwhile Margaret's mother insisted she divorce him and it became final in 1873. She then remarried and raised a large family in Jasper County, IL and that is all I know (except that she always carried a torch for Murray, often stating how Murray was sooooo good looking and there was some trouble and he had to go away) Don't I wish I knew what all that was about. I was able to get the info that I do have from divorce records and from the MO State Archives Prisoners' Records which contained a photocopy of two original hand written letters from Josiah to the Governor Brown of MO in 1872 from Pana. I realize that is more than you probably cared to know but now you can see my dilemma:) Thanks for doing what you could to help. Debby