In a message dated 2/4/03 6:33:45 AM Pacific Standard Time, Jo2247@aol.com writes: << Message Board Post: >> I don't know if this helps but I found the second John Sloman in the 1851 Census... Enumeration district: Honeychurch & S County: Devonshire Address: Middletown, Okehampt Family number: 949375 1. Sloman, John Relationship: Head Marriage status: Married Age at census: 37 Gender: M Occupation: Farmer Of 120 Acres Place of birth: Sampford Cou, Devonshire, England 2. Sloman, Elizabeth Relationship: Wife Marriage status: Married Age at census: 38 Gender: F Occupation: Wife Place of birth: Sampford Cou, Devonshire, England 3. Sloman, William Relationship: Son Marriage status: ??? Age at census: 11 Gender: M Occupation: Son Place of birth: Honeychurch, Devonshire, England 4. Sloman, Mary Ann Relationship: Daughter Marriage status: ??? Age at census: 8 Gender: F Occupation: Dau Place of birth: Honeychurch, Devonshire, England 5. Sloman, Elizabeth Relationship: Daughter Marriage status: ??? Age at census: 5 Gender: F Occupation: Dau Place of birth: Honeychurch, Devonshire, England 6. Sloman, John Relationship: Son Marriage status: ??? Age at census: 3 Gender: M Occupation: Son Place of birth: Honeychurch, Devonshire, England 7. Sloman, Susanna Relationship: Daughter Marriage status: ??? Age at census: 2 Gender: F Occupation: Dau Place of birth: Honeychurch, Devonshire, England 8. Sloman, Mary Ann Relationship: Mother Marriage status: Married Age at census: 57 Gender: F Occupation: Farmers Wife Place of birth: Devon, Northamptonshire, England Having his mother's now gives a clue. I would suggest ordering parish records. They will give you many clues. sincerely, Stephanie