Sally, How do you find the obituaries for these folks? I must admit to being very nieve about searching and I found most of my info through the hit and miss system. I do have photo copies of some birth, marriage, and death records. They are for my parents and grandparents. It is wonderful having ansester.com and you folks here to give me guidance. I live in Southern CA and all my family is in Ill. I can't just take a day trip over to the county clerks office for information. Thank you to all who have helped out. Patty Root Keepsakes By Patty Memory Book Designer Creating Custom Designed Albums from your photos! www.keepsakesbypatty.com Creating Keepsakes One Page At A Time