Hi Donna, His marriage records burned in a fire in Wayne County, Illinois.:-( The marriage info I got was from a newspaper and it only listed her parents, not his. His death certificate had his son as the informant and listed the Father's name as Robert John James (Sr) born in Ohio and Mother as Unknown born in England. The fact that Robert himself on any census he was asked had his Mother as the one from Ohio and his Father as the one from England, makes the info provided by his son on his death certificate as not totally reliable. I am guessing that as the Simkins family he is found living with from the age of 10 onwards has the father from England and the Mother from Ohio, perhaps Mr Simkins immigrated from England with Robert's Mother and Mrs. Simkins was a friend or relative of his Mother. Another guess is that as a Guardian bond was created for him in the court at age 14, his parents had died. Thanks for listening, margaret Donna Jaster wrote: > Margaret, > > I would think the answer to the mystery might be in KY where he left from > living with his father. Perhaps his work wouldn't allow having a child > living at home and he went with relatives to IL. > > Did he list parents at marriage or death record? > > Donna Jaster > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Margaret Fox-Jackson" <mfox7@optonline.net> > To: <ILCHAMPA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: 01 January, 2002 4:08 PM > Subject: [ILCHAMPA-L] Robert James - help!! > > > Hi Karen and all, > > I do have them on the 1900 census in , the family was still living in > Edwards > > County, which I guess is what you meant? They then moved to Wabash County > and > > then it seems spread out from there, Ross having gone to Champaign County. > > As far as trying to locate Robert's father on the 1850 Kentucky census I > need to > > show you a time line on my Great Grandfather and then please let me know > what you > > think, or anybody else jump in any time with advice or suggestions- LOL!!! > > Robert J. James born on September 23, 1840 in Louisville, Kentucky, > parents > > unknown, but he always lists his father as being from England and Mother > from > > Ohio on any census I have located him on. I find him with a family named > Simkins > > on some censuses with someone he refers to as his sister Sarah/Sally > Simkins. (On > > marriage info for Sarah/Sallie I find that her Mom Edith was Edith Ann > Wilson and > > that her Father is named Holmes Simkins) Edith was born in Ohio and Holmes > in > > England............. > > Holmes Simkins can be found on the 1850 census, in Louisville, Kentucky, > with a > > wife Edith, "son Robert", aged 10 and a daughter Sarah aged 2. The Robert > is > > listed as if his surname was Simkins. The 1840 census shows Holmes Simkins > in > > Louisville as well with only men in his household. > > By 1854 I find Robert J. James in Albion, Edwards County, Illinois, by way > of a > > Guardian Bond that was filed with the court naming guardians for the now > 14 year > > old boy. The Guardians are a Bowman and a Thompson, (both English) but he > > continues to live with the Simkins. It appears that he was orphaned, but > the > > Circuit Clerk cannot find any paperwork leading up to > > the Guardian Bond. > > 1860 census, Albion Illinois, shows a household that looks like Edith and > > household. There is an Ann Simkins as head of household, a Robert with > ditto mark > > indicating the same surname, aged 20 and a Sarah of the correct age. > Holmes no > > longer appears any place. > > 1870 - Albion-census shows Robert James ( listed as James) living with > Edith > > Simkins and her daughter Sarah. > > In 1880-Albion- Sarah/Sallie is listed as living with Robert James and his > now > > wife and children and is listed as 'sister' to the head of the household, > Robert. > > > > Any suggestions, comments or feedback would be appreciated in helping to > figure > > out his story. Let me know, and sorry this was so long........ > > Take care, > > margaret > > > > > > KPhill2906@aol.com wrote: > > > > > Hi Margaret: > > > > > > I'm sure you've found them on the 1900 census. This indicates Robert > John > > > James was b. Sept. 1840 in Kentucky. His father was born in England and > his > > > mother in Ohio. They were married about 1873. > > > > > > I have the 1850 Kentucky census on CD. There are A LOT of James > families. I > > > would be happy to search for your Robert with his parents for a small > fee. > > > It would probably take about a week of "after work" searching. Let me > know > > > if you are interested. > > > Karen > > > > > >

Hi Karen and all, I do have them on the 1900 census in , the family was still living in Edwards County, which I guess is what you meant? They then moved to Wabash County and then it seems spread out from there, Ross having gone to Champaign County. As far as trying to locate Robert's father on the 1850 Kentucky census I need to show you a time line on my Great Grandfather and then please let me know what you think, or anybody else jump in any time with advice or suggestions- LOL!!! Robert J. James born on September 23, 1840 in Louisville, Kentucky, parents unknown, but he always lists his father as being from England and Mother from Ohio on any census I have located him on. I find him with a family named Simkins on some censuses with someone he refers to as his sister Sarah/Sally Simkins. (On marriage info for Sarah/Sallie I find that her Mom Edith was Edith Ann Wilson and that her Father is named Holmes Simkins) Edith was born in Ohio and Holmes in England............. Holmes Simkins can be found on the 1850 census, in Louisville, Kentucky, with a wife Edith, "son Robert", aged 10 and a daughter Sarah aged 2. The Robert is listed as if his surname was Simkins. The 1840 census shows Holmes Simkins in Louisville as well with only men in his household. By 1854 I find Robert J. James in Albion, Edwards County, Illinois, by way of a Guardian Bond that was filed with the court naming guardians for the now 14 year old boy. The Guardians are a Bowman and a Thompson, (both English) but he continues to live with the Simkins. It appears that he was orphaned, but the Circuit Clerk cannot find any paperwork leading up to the Guardian Bond. 1860 census, Albion Illinois, shows a household that looks like Edith and household. There is an Ann Simkins as head of household, a Robert with ditto mark indicating the same surname, aged 20 and a Sarah of the correct age. Holmes no longer appears any place. 1870 - Albion-census shows Robert James ( listed as James) living with Edith Simkins and her daughter Sarah. In 1880-Albion- Sarah/Sallie is listed as living with Robert James and his now wife and children and is listed as 'sister' to the head of the household, Robert. Any suggestions, comments or feedback would be appreciated in helping to figure out his story. Let me know, and sorry this was so long........ Take care, margaret KPhill2906@aol.com wrote: > Hi Margaret: > > I'm sure you've found them on the 1900 census. This indicates Robert John > James was b. Sept. 1840 in Kentucky. His father was born in England and his > mother in Ohio. They were married about 1873. > > I have the 1850 Kentucky census on CD. There are A LOT of James families. I > would be happy to search for your Robert with his parents for a small fee. > It would probably take about a week of "after work" searching. Let me know > if you are interested. > Karen

I am looking for a John JAMES, I have been lead to believe he was living in St. Joseph, Champaign Co. IL. on 17 Nov. 1886, as that is the date of birth for my grandfather, George Franklin JAMES. John JAMES had mar. or was living with Jessie E. BISHOP, from Chester, Thayer Co. NE.. Shortly after my grandfather was born they separated (how long is unknown to me)? Am not sure if John remarried or what, do know there were about 3 John JAMES' in the area. Anyone on your JAMES search. Linda in WA.

Margaret, I would think the answer to the mystery might be in KY where he left from living with his father. Perhaps his work wouldn't allow having a child living at home and he went with relatives to IL. Did he list parents at marriage or death record? Donna Jaster ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Fox-Jackson" <mfox7@optonline.net> To: <ILCHAMPA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 01 January, 2002 4:08 PM Subject: [ILCHAMPA-L] Robert James - help!! > Hi Karen and all, > I do have them on the 1900 census in , the family was still living in Edwards > County, which I guess is what you meant? They then moved to Wabash County and > then it seems spread out from there, Ross having gone to Champaign County. > As far as trying to locate Robert's father on the 1850 Kentucky census I need to > show you a time line on my Great Grandfather and then please let me know what you > think, or anybody else jump in any time with advice or suggestions- LOL!!! > Robert J. James born on September 23, 1840 in Louisville, Kentucky, parents > unknown, but he always lists his father as being from England and Mother from > Ohio on any census I have located him on. I find him with a family named Simkins > on some censuses with someone he refers to as his sister Sarah/Sally Simkins. (On > marriage info for Sarah/Sallie I find that her Mom Edith was Edith Ann Wilson and > that her Father is named Holmes Simkins) Edith was born in Ohio and Holmes in > England............. > Holmes Simkins can be found on the 1850 census, in Louisville, Kentucky, with a > wife Edith, "son Robert", aged 10 and a daughter Sarah aged 2. The Robert is > listed as if his surname was Simkins. The 1840 census shows Holmes Simkins in > Louisville as well with only men in his household. > By 1854 I find Robert J. James in Albion, Edwards County, Illinois, by way of a > Guardian Bond that was filed with the court naming guardians for the now 14 year > old boy. The Guardians are a Bowman and a Thompson, (both English) but he > continues to live with the Simkins. It appears that he was orphaned, but the > Circuit Clerk cannot find any paperwork leading up to > the Guardian Bond. > 1860 census, Albion Illinois, shows a household that looks like Edith and > household. There is an Ann Simkins as head of household, a Robert with ditto mark > indicating the same surname, aged 20 and a Sarah of the correct age. Holmes no > longer appears any place. > 1870 - Albion-census shows Robert James ( listed as James) living with Edith > Simkins and her daughter Sarah. > In 1880-Albion- Sarah/Sallie is listed as living with Robert James and his now > wife and children and is listed as 'sister' to the head of the household, Robert. > > Any suggestions, comments or feedback would be appreciated in helping to figure > out his story. Let me know, and sorry this was so long........ > Take care, > margaret > > > KPhill2906@aol.com wrote: > > > Hi Margaret: > > > > I'm sure you've found them on the 1900 census. This indicates Robert John > > James was b. Sept. 1840 in Kentucky. His father was born in England and his > > mother in Ohio. They were married about 1873. > > > > I have the 1850 Kentucky census on CD. There are A LOT of James families. I > > would be happy to search for your Robert with his parents for a small fee. > > It would probably take about a week of "after work" searching. Let me know > > if you are interested. > > Karen > > >

Hi Margaret: I'm sure you've found them on the 1900 census. This indicates Robert John James was b. Sept. 1840 in Kentucky. His father was born in England and his mother in Ohio. They were married about 1873. I have the 1850 Kentucky census on CD. There are A LOT of James families. I would be happy to search for your Robert with his parents for a small fee. It would probably take about a week of "after work" searching. Let me know if you are interested. Karen

Hi Karen, I have his parents names, Robert John James and Laura Emma Trussell. I am looking for his Father's parents as well as Ross's descendants if there are any. Margaret KPhill2906@aol.com wrote: > Are you looking for names of Ross's parents? > > Karen

I am looking for decendants of Jospeh James born Jan 1, 1804 in Pa. and of his son John Allen James born Feb 22, 1836 in Terre Haute In. they migrated to Illinois in the 1870's. John Allen had several children, one of which was my Great Grandfather Francis Marion James who married Lyda Black. Lyda's father was J>W> Black of Champaign co, Il. ----- Original Message ----- From: <KPhill2906@aol.com> To: <ILCHAMPA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 12:19 PM Subject: Re: [ILCHAMPA-L] James > Are you looking for names of Ross's parents? > > Karen > >

Are you looking for names of Ross's parents? Karen

Bea, I am looking for the surname James in Champaign COunty, although it would have only been from the 1900's. I am looking for a Ross T. James (aka Roscoe) who was born in Albion, Edwards County Illinois on July 31, 1885. I believe he married a woman named Layla and was living in Sadorus at least in 1921 and 22 which is when his parents died and he is listed in the obituaries. I have no idea if they had any children, etc. Take care, margaret cbe34 wrote: > I would be interested in hearing from anyone researching the surname of JAMES from Champaign County, Illinois. Looking froward to any responces. Bea

I would be interested in hearing from anyone researching the surname of JAMES from Champaign County, Illinois. Looking froward to any responces. Bea

There is no COURIER paper any more. All we have is the News Gazette which is on Main Street in Champaign , Illinois. GOD BLESS AMERICA as always Linda Carole Wilson Long HOME OF THE FIGHTING ILLINI

I would be interested in hearing from anyone researching the surnames of QUINLAN, LOWRY, RYAN and GILLIGAN from Champaign County, Illinois. I am especially interested in learning more about the family of James O. RYAN and Ellen (nee COMERFORD) RYAN. James was born in Templemore, County Tipperary between 1832-1836. Ellen was born between 1831-1833 in Templemore. James and Ellen migrated to Crittenden Twp., Champaign County, Illinois in about 1871. James died on January 29, 1917, and Ellen on August 28, 1910; both in Champaign County, IL. Their children were: 1. Mary A. RYAN, born 1856 in Illinois; married William QUINLAN in 1879 in Champaign County and she died in 1957; 2. Timothy RYAN, born about 1858 in Illinois; 3. Margaret "Maggie" RYAN, born 1859-1860 in Wilmington, Will County, IL; married James LOWRY in Champaign County in 1882 and she died in 1916 in Champaign County; 4. Ellen "Nellie" RYAN, born 1863 in Wilmington, Will County, IL; married John LOWRY, Jr. (brother of her sister's husband) in 1887 in Champaign County and died in 1957 in Champaign County; 5. John RYAN, born about 1864 in Illinois; 6. Joseph RYAN, born about 1866 in Illinois; 7. James RYAN, Jr., born about 1868 in Illinois; and 8. Katy RYAN, born about 1870 in Champaign County, Illinois (MAY HAVE married James GILLIGAN in 1900). I look forward to hearing from anyone researching these families. Thanks! Kevin Miller

The name of the newspaper in Rantoul is the Rantoul Press. The library is he Rantoul Public Library. The obit probaly appeared in the Champaign New Gazette and the Urbana Courier. Happy new year! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Buffys97" <buffys97@one.net> To: <ILCHAMPA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 6:20 AM Subject: [ILCHAMPA-L] Newspaper & Library for Rantoul > Hello fellow listers. Our computer has been problematic this week. > > Could someone please tell me what the name of the library is and what > the name of the newspaper is for an death in Rantoul which occurred in > the year 2000? > > I would like to contact the library and ask them to forward a copy of > the obit to me. I will pay, of course. > > I am terribly sorry if someone asnwered my previous request along > these same lines, but we lost much of our e-mail this week. No virus, > just user and installer mishaps! > > Thanks Buffy & Trixie in Dixie > >

Hello fellow listers. Our computer has been problematic this week. Could someone please tell me what the name of the library is and what the name of the newspaper is for an death in Rantoul which occurred in the year 2000? I would like to contact the library and ask them to forward a copy of the obit to me. I will pay, of course. I am terribly sorry if someone asnwered my previous request along these same lines, but we lost much of our e-mail this week. No virus, just user and installer mishaps! Thanks Buffy & Trixie in Dixie

vlaldridge@sigecom.net writes: > There is an 1890 Veterans Schedule for every state and many libraries have > it on hand. I know I personally have used it at Willard Library in I hope you are right, but NARA doesn't agree with the spirit of your reply: http://www.nara.gov/publications/prologue/1890cen2.html

dconner@notes.state.ne.us writes: > Is there SKS who has access to 1890 Veterans Schedule who would seek the > following: > ########## > 1890 CONNER, WILLIAM W.; IL 948 Mound Township IL 1890 > Veterans Schedule IL 436939 I didn't realize that any part of the 1890 Veteran's census for Illinois survived (or had been found). Does anyone know any more about this?

There is an 1890 Veterans Schedule for every state and many libraries have it on hand. I know I personally have used it at Willard Library in Evansville IN Virginia

Is there SKS who has access to 1890 Veterans Schedule who would seek the following: ########## 1890 CONNER, WILLIAM W.; IL 948 Mound Township IL 1890 Veterans Schedule IL 436939 ########## Thank You, Dan C.

Pat Curtis & Kevin Miller: I have been in touch w/ Kevin before. I know that there were Ryans connected to my Quirks in Golden, Co. Tipperary, IRE. In fact, on one of the censi, a Quirk nephew was living w/ a Ryan, but not in Champaign Co (but close by). The name Lyons is also strongly connected to the Quirks. Diane Mahoney, Baltimore, MD

Pat Curtis: I am not sure about my Quinns because, other than my gr-grandmother's brothers, sisters and parents, I know NOTHING about the Quinns. There is a Fitzgerald family which married a couple of family members; they were from Co. Limerick. I feel quite certain that my Patrick Quinn, who was also born from Co. Limerick, must have siblings somewhere in U.S. Patrick's parents' names, according to his death information, were Daniel and ?? (Fitzpatrick) Quinn. If you are related to the Gormans or the Quinns that are related to the Gormans, I would be interested in starting a dialogue. Thanks for responding! Diane Mahoney, Baltimore, MD