Does anyone ever feel that you are the only one looking for your ancestors? OR Does anyone ever feel that the ancestors lived their lives, but were either very careful (doubtful) or left little or not traces? Maybe because it was an ordinary life; maybe they were like some today who didn't participate in life around them - vote, go to church, civic/local politics, etc.; maybe recordkeepers were not that diligent since it was all done by hand. Just wondering... Susan DUPUIS, DICKINSON, FETTER, CLIBBORN, WOODRUFF, FULLER, DOZIER

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Yg.2ADE/761.1.1 Message Board Post: Hello Jerry - I found the book at the library in Mt. Carroll. Lynnea

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Yg.2ADE/761.1 Message Board Post: Lynnea, I am researching my Michael, Sarber, Diehl relatives in Carroll Co, IL and I am trying to find a copy of Carroll County 1878. Can you tell me where you found your copy. Thanks for any help. Jerry Buss jerrybusss@aol.com

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If anyone has access to the 1930 Carroll Co., IL census, could please do a look-up for me? I am looking for my gr-grandparents, who usually lived in the Sabula-Green Island area in IA, but they may have moved to the Savanna area for a time. They are: Baker, John & Dora. They probably also had Pearl, a daughter & Vernon, a grandson, living with them. Vernon is my father. Thanks so much. Jane Hardin

I have info on about 100 Millers and related families in Carroll Co from about 1850-1880 all descended from Jacob Miller & Susan Dulebohn and families who moved to Mt Carroll from Franklin Co, PA. There are no Warner Miller's in my records, but quite a few possible parents. Rock Miller

Does anyone have more on this family? Descendants of Warner Miller 1 Warner MILLER .. +Christie ? ... 2 W. H. MILLER b: 1860 d: January 24, 1906 in Chadwick, Carroll Co., IL Burial: Brookville Cemetery, Brookville Twp., Ogle Co., IL ....... +Luella HERB m: March 21, 1895 in Ogle Co., IL Father: Isaac Herb Mother: Sarah Ann Messner Roger Cramer Peoria, Arizona <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/RogerCubs/index.html">Roger & Sue Cramer's Genealogy Site</A> http://members.aol.com/rogercubs/index.html <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilogle/">Ogle Co., IL Genealogy Site</A> http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilogle/

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Verzani Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Yg.2ADE/925.2 Message Board Post: Hi ,I`ve got a line in the Verzani too. Mine goes down Bertha Verzani (daughter of Andrew Verzani & Julia Post). Did you get a Verzani Book? laurie

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Carroll/phayer/murphy/gleason Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Yg.2ADE/961 Message Board Post: Looking for the connection between Johanna Carroll and my great-great grandparents, Joseph Phayer (from Limerick, Ireland) and Mary Murphy (from Wexford Co., Ireland) who married at St. Mary's Catholic Church in Troy, Ny on 5 July 1849. Johanna was a witness for their marriage along with Thomas Gleason. My gggrandparents moved to Alton, Madison Co., Illinois a few years later where they settled. Any ideas welcomed. My email is kathnel@msn.com. Thanks. Kathleen Sadler

I'm looking for some help with this family: Descendants of Daniel Paul 1 Daniel PAUL .. +Lydia ? ... 2 George Tobias PAUL b: May 9, 1859 in Brookville Twp., Ogle Co., IL d: May 24, 1947 in Brookville Twp., Ogle Co., IL ....... +Elizabeth "Lizzie" GARMAN b: July 24, 1857 in Brookville Twp., Ogle Co., IL m: September 30, 1880 in Brookville Twp., Ogle Co., IL d: March 7, 1930 in Brookville Twp., Ogle Co., IL Father: Benjamin Martin Garman Mother: Elizabeth Lower ........ 3 Addie M. PAUL b: January 16, 1881 in Brookville Twp., Ogle Co., IL d: July 26, 1975 in Polo, Buffalo Twp., Ogle Co., IL ............ +August W. FRAWERT b: November 7, 1876 m: February 4, 1902 in Polo, Buffalo Twp., Ogle Co., IL d: June 24, 1950 in Mt. Morris, Ogle Co., IL Father: Henry S. Frawert Mother: Charlotte Rohns ........ 3 Charles Lee PAUL b: August 28, 1882 in Brookville Twp., Ogle Co., IL d: October 19, 1974 in Brookville Twp., Ogle Co., IL ............ +Ida Currens KUHN m: March 23, 1935 in Brookville Twp., Ogle Co., IL ........ 3 Alice Aileen PAUL b: September 19, 1884 in Brookville Twp., Ogle Co., IL d: August 15, 1966 in Hospital, Dixon, Lee Co., IL ............ +Fred F. SWEET b: July 13, 1886 in Eagle Point Twp., Ogle Co., IL m: February 20, 1907 in Brookville Twp., Ogle Co., IL d: December 6, 1956 in Elgin, IL ........ 3 Lydia Elizabeth PAUL b: December 17, 1886 in Chambers Grove, Ogle Co., IL d: March 7, 1960 in Hospital, Moline, IL Burial: Fairmount Cemetery, Polo, Buffalo Twp., Ogle Co., IL ............ +Clifford B. REYNOLDS b: July 14, 1884 in Elkhorn Grove Twp., Carroll Co., IL m: January 14, 1909 in Polo, Buffalo Twp., Ogle Co., IL d: January 25, 1923 in Polo, Buffalo Twp., Ogle Co., IL Burial: Fairmount Cemetery, Polo, Buffalo Twp., Ogle Co., IL Father: Harry L. Reynolds Mother: Julia A. ? ........ 3 Susie Bell PAUL b: January 10, 1889 in Brookville Twp., Ogle Co., IL d: March 1, 1978 in Hospital, Rockford, Winnebago Co., IL Burial: West Grove Cemetery, Lincoln Twp., Ogle Co., IL ............ +George Frederick HORST b: August 20, 1882 in Mt. Morris, Ogle Co., IL m: February 25, 1909 in Forreston, Ogle Co., IL d: November 16, 1964 in Mt. Morris, Ogle Co., IL Burial: West Grove Cemetery, Lincoln Twp., Ogle Co., IL Father: Conrad Horst Mother: Louisa Lohafer ........ 3 Achsa Mae PAUL b: April 11, 1891 in Brookville Twp., Ogle Co., IL d: November 7, 1974 in Dixon, Lee Co., IL ............ +William H. KNESS b: April 1, 1891 in Brookville Twp., Ogle Co., IL m: December 10, 1911 in Brookville Twp., Ogle Co., IL d: May 28, 1962 in Freeport, Stephenson Co., IL ........ 3 George R. PAUL b: September 1893 in Brookville Twp., Ogle Co., IL d: November 14, 1932 in Freeport, Stephenson Co., IL ............ +Cecelia Pearl BARTON b: 1892 in West Plains, MO m: December 8, 1912 in Brookville Twp., Ogle Co., IL d: 1942 ........ 3 Sylvia F. PAUL b: September 16, 1895 in Brookville Twp., Ogle Co., IL d: April 29, 1984 in Dixon, Lee Co., IL ... 2 Isaac L. PAUL b: 1860 ....... +Anna ROGERS b: 1867 m: July 21, 1887 in Ogle Co., IL d: January 17, 1945 in Brookville Twp., Ogle Co., IL Father: Henry Rogers Mother: Margaret Louisa Sarber Roger Cramer Peoria, Arizona <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/RogerCubs/index.html">Roger & Sue Cramer's Genealogy Site</A> http://members.aol.com/rogercubs/index.html <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilogle/">Ogle Co., IL Genealogy Web Site</A> http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilogle/

Does anyone have the 1860 census for Fair Haven Twp? I'm looking for Traums and Zinnels in the area. I would appreciate the lookup if anyone has access to this valuable information. Thank you! Krista Traum and Zinnel in Carroll County High and Gsell mostly in Whiteside Ludolph, Brinkmeier, Ottenhausen in Stephenson

I went through all of Fairhaven images for the 1860 census on Ancestry and found NO Traums or Zinnels. For those who have access to Ancestry, the images for Fairhaven are 157 through 175 under Unknown Townships, Carroll County, Illinois. Bob -----Original Message----- From: Kmann@ra.rockwell.com [mailto:Kmann@ra.rockwell.com] Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2002 7:32 AM To: ILCARROL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: 1860 census? Does anyone have the 1860 census for Fair Haven Twp? I'm looking for Traums and Zinnels in the area. I would appreciate the lookup if anyone has access to this valuable information. Thank you! Krista Traum and Zinnel in Carroll County High and Gsell mostly in Whiteside Ludolph, Brinkmeier, Ottenhausen in Stephenson ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Yg.2ADE/953.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks That eliminates that family from my research base as possible ancestors.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Yg.2ADE/953.1.1.1 Message Board Post: The two daughters of John Hinkle and Lydia Leonard are: Lillian (b. 1871) Married - Edgar Bundy, Lived Calif. Mable (b. 1873) Married - Frank Waddell, Lived Iowa The information I have says that Lydia raised her two daughters alone after her husband, John William Hinkle left her. The only other thing it says about him is that he was possibly born in Ohio.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Yg.2ADE/953.1.1 Message Board Post: I was hoping for a connection but I am afraid that this is not the right John HINKLE. I have a John Hinkle and Lydia Hinkle who helped start a one room school in Norton County KS in 1889. This John Hinkle had a Daughter Mary May HINKLE born in 1878 somewhere in IL. She married William B. ROE in 1894. In the 1900 KS census for William and Mary Roe it lists her parents as father born in Germany, mother born in IL. I have found no records showing relatinship John Hinkle with Lydia Hinkle in the Norton County KS area and had only found your distant relation in marriage records of IL. Know that the John Hinkle I have in KS is my greatgrandfather, as the record shows he is grandfather of my uncle. Did they only have the two childrden and did they stay in IL? Thanks

Does anyone have more information on this family? Descendants of James Grove 1 James GROVE b: Abt. 1815 in MD (appears in 1850 Franklin Co., PA and 1870 Leaf River Twp., Ogle Co., IL census) .. +Ann ? b: Abt. 1822 in MD ... 2 Sarah GROVE b: Abt. 1841 in PA ... 2 Mary GROVE b: Abt. 1843 in PA (living in Shannon, Carroll Co., IL in 1920) ....... +? BOERNER ........ 3 George BOERNER d: February 1900 in (living in Freeport, IL, killed on railroad) ... 2 William Augustus GROVE b: February 19, 1846 in Franklin Co., PA d: September 17, 1920 Military service: Civil War, Co. B, 126th PA Infantry, later Co. K, 22nd PA Volunteer Calvary ....... +Alice BOVEY m: November 3, 1867 in Adeline, Maryland Twp., Ogle Co., IL ........ 3 Agnes GROVE ............ +FISHER ........ 3 Anna GROVE ............ +LATHROP ........ 3 Grace GROVE ............ +? WILCOX ........ 3 Mabel GROVE ............ +ARNOLD ... 2 Amanda C. GROVE b: Abt. 1848 in PA (living in OH in 1920) ....... +Daniel C. MICHAEL m: June 28, 1868 in Ogle Co., IL ... 2 Margaret Ann GROVE b: October 18, 1851 in PA d: July 1931 ....... +Henry S. REBER b: June 16, 1847 in PA (appears in 1870 Leaf River Twp. census) m: November 4, 1868 in Ogle Co., IL d: March 17, 1922 in Leaf River, Ogle Co., IL Burial: Lightsville Cemetery, Leaf River Twp., Ogle Co., IL Father: Charles Bright Reber Mother: Mary Shirk ........ 3 Laura A. REBER b: August 22, 1870 in IL d: December 1939 in Shannon, Carroll Co., IL ............ +Abner C. LUTZ m: January 21, 1892 d: in Shannon, Carroll Co., IL ........ 3 William REBER b: August 12, 1872 d: October 1880 ........ 3 Adda Mae REBER b: May 3, 1874 in Leaf River Twp., Ogle Co., IL d: March 25, 1917 in Hospital, Rockford, Winnebago Co., IL Burial: Byron Cemetery, Byron, Ogle Co., IL ............ +J. Harry EMBICK b: 1868 m: June 16, 1898 Father: Daniel Embick Mother: Catherine Christian ........ 3 Harry Milton REBER b: June 5, 1876 in Lightsville, Leaf River Twp., Ogle Co., IL d: December 22, 1964 Burial: Lightsville Cemetery, Leaf River Twp., Ogle Co., IL ............ +Minnie Legarda BRESSLER b: December 31, 1877 in Leaf River, Ogle Co., IL m: February 15, 1896 in Oregon, Ogle Co., IL d: 1939 Burial: Lightsville Cemetery, Leaf River Twp., Ogle Co., IL Father: Edward Bressler Mother: Rebecca Sweeny ........ 3 James C. REBER b: Abt. 1878 d: in Glendale, CA ........ 3 Maude B. REBER b: 1883 in (living in CA in 1917) ............ +? MCKENZIE ........ 3 Claude Lee REBER b: Abt. 1885 d: December 5, 1949 ........ 3 Lloyd Earl REBER b: December 21, 1887 in Leaf River Twp., Ogle Co., IL d: July 23, 1960 in Inglewood, CA ............ +Ruth HEALY m: February 26, 1919 Father: J. W. Healy ........ 3 Bessie Ann REBER b: July 14, 1890 ............ +Harry KAUFFMAN ........ 3 Letha Matilda REBER b: January 15, 1893 d: January 20, 1894 Burial: Lightsville Cemetery near Leaf River, Ogle Co., IL ... 2 Solomon T. GROVE b: Abt. 1852 in PA (living in IA in 1920) ... 2 Martin H. GROVE b: Abt. 1855 in PA (living in MN in 1920) ... 2 Charles E. GROVE b: Abt. 1857 in PA (living in Janesville, WI in 1920) ... 2 Franklin E. GROVE b: Abt. 1861 in PA (living in IA in 1920) ... 2 Ida Belle GROVE b: Abt. 1862 in PA (living in Detroit, MI in 1920) ....... +FORNEY ... 2 Myrtle GROVE b: Abt. 1866 in PA (living in IA in 1920) ....... +? DICK Roger Cramer Peoria, Arizona <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/RogerCubs/index.html">Roger & Sue Cramer's Genealogy Site</A> http://members.aol.com/rogercubs/index.html <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilogle/">Ogle Co., IL Genealogy Web Site</A> http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilogle/

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Leonard/Hinkle Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Yg.2ADE/953.1 Message Board Post: Lydia Leonard was my great-grandfather's sister. His name was Samuel Leonard. Lydia married John Hinkle on 26 Oct 1870 in Shannon, IL. They had two children, Lillian and Mable. I have more information on Lydia, John and their children, and also on the Leonards. I will be glad to share any information I have.

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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Yg.2ADE/960.1 Message Board Post: Bev, You did not give a time frame in your request, nor the results of your findings of Casper & Adam Kohler. I did find an Adam Kohler in 1880 Fair Haven twp., Carroll co. He has a son Henry, 8, born Il.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Yg.2ADE/190.201 Message Board Post: I am descended from Ruben Waters m. to Anna Blessing. I would love to exchange info with you. Steve Davis Ventura, Ca. sdavis2439@aol.com