This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/He.2ADI/121.2.1.1.2 Message Board Post: Found the Holmes information I have in my Williamson file this morning. The first mention I have of any Holmes is in notes from a cousin of mine: Quote: Saphronia E. Lee's guardian, Wm. Holmes, applied for pension (#220 287- (was appointed her guardian 20 may 1872, in order to obtain pensions for minor children?) Annie A. Lee, in 1876 signed her release of all receipts to Holmes. (indeciperable) Anna A gives her address as PO Santafee ILL Alexr. Co. lived near Santafee Census gives Wm. Holmes as father? of Estes Adam Holmes- WIfe of Wm as Sarah Estes born 1876 - He was a playmate of my father -(son of Sarah) born 1877 (possibly cousins?) Wm. Holmes also guardian of Narcissa J. Holmes, heir of Emmanual J Holmes - Co G 11th IL infantry (a grandaughter or niece?) This information taken from census records in archives Wash DC & family. In checking thru my files, I find info that leads me to believe there were fam. connections between Lee-Fox & Holmes families prev to 1850 END QUOTE This info came from Valeria Williamosn Griffen. My copies are in poor shape but I beleive her niece has all of Valeria's research now, or was supposed to be obtaining it. On another page Valeria says: QUOTE: Wm. Holmes was possibly her (Anna & Sophrenia's) grandfather or uncle? as I think that my father (Sarah's son) once told me that he and Estes Holmes were cousins (he thought) & Estes is listed as son of Wm 1880 census of Alexr. Co. ILL also with (illegible) as Sarah Estes 4 years, which would make him b 1876 & my fahter born 1877 END QUOTE The Sarah's son she refers to would be Elijah Harris Williamson, and Sarah being Sarah Fox-Lee-Williamson. Annie and Sophrenia were 2 of Sarahs daughters from her marriage to Chesterfield G Lee, Elijah was the youngest child from her marriage to John McCurdy Williamson. I have copies of copies of the pension application mentioned above, and of Anna's signing over of her pension funds to Wm Holmes, mostly illegible but the originals, or better copies must exist someplace. Must go get ready for work now, I hope this helps some, it got me through my morning coffee :) If I find any further mention of Holmes' later I will pass it along. Jim