Candace, Complementing your comments on the routes, I have ancestors 50 years earlier that came in at Philadelphia, by land down to Rowan County, N.C. to the south end of the Appalachians and west into Tenn. and Kentucky. Others like them at the time turned north, still on land, crossing the Ohio River and into Southern Ill. on its east and south sides. A little later on the same types of people might have turned the corner at theMississippi River and gone on north into western Ill. and Missouri and Iowa. But of course once the trains came the migration routes changed. I'm no expert so if this sounds wrong someone tell me. Ernie Heltsley/an ex-S.Ill. searching Morris, Barnes, and Heltsley families in Saline Co. area of Ill.and Muhlenberg Co. area of western Kentucky.

My ancestors landed in New Orleans in November 1848 and presumably came upriver for they were in Monroe County, Illinois for the 1850 census. I believe the railroad got to St. Louis in about 1853. Before that, it would be tough to get from the east coast to southern Illinois. The routes I can imagine might be the Erie Canal to the great lakes to Chicago, then overland, or somehow getting to Pittsburgh, then down the Ohio river. Candace McCarthy King

Looking for information on Wilkinson, Birdsong and any other families that moved up to Union Co Illinois ca 1863 from Hardeman Co TN. There may have been a group of neighbors who migrated around that time. I have found out for sure where the Wilkinsons were in NC before they moved to TN, but would like to know more about the Illinois branch of this family. Merry Christmas, pat vincent

Hi Dan, That's an interesting story. Where did the family come into the U.S. from Belgium.I'm trying to verify an idea of mine that many of the settlers of the west side of Illinois came in through New Orleans rather than the east coast and then by the Ohio River or by land. Belgians speak German, I guess. A big German community had developed by that time in St. Louis, I believe. It would make a difference of course if they came after the trains were developed. Good luck! Ernie Heltsley/an ex-Southern Illinoisan, but on the east side near Shawneetown

There is a Maeytown in Illinois. Maybe some of the people were there. It is near the Mississippi River, SW of Columbia. I think there are also some Mays who still live in that part of Illinois who are prosperous farmers. Lynda Miller danr wrote: > I am searching for any information on a family that settled in St. Clair Co. around 1853. They were an immigrant family from Belgium. There were seven that came over. Mary Maes(mother) John,Jacob,Tony,Leonard, Peter and Eugenia. John is my great grandfather but I do not know what happened to any of the others except Eugenia. John and his family went down near Murphysboro around the 1890's. Any other info would be appreciated. > > Thanks > Dan Robinson

Never mind. I see that it is in the subject line. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karima" <quest@springnet1.com> To: <IL-SOUTHERN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 2:56 PM Subject: Re: [IL-SOUTHERN] Maes in St. Clair Co. > What is the surname of this family? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "danr" <danr@nemr.net> > To: <IL-SOUTHERN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 1:38 PM > Subject: [IL-SOUTHERN] Maes in St. Clair Co. > > > > I am searching for any information on a family that settled in St. Clair > Co. around 1853. They were an immigrant family from Belgium. There were > seven that came over. Mary Maes(mother) John,Jacob,Tony,Leonard, Peter and > Eugenia. John is my great grandfather but I do not know what happened to > any of the others except Eugenia. John and his family went down near > Murphysboro around the 1890's. Any other info would be appreciated. > > > > Thanks > > Dan Robinson > > > >

What is the surname of this family? ----- Original Message ----- From: "danr" <danr@nemr.net> To: <IL-SOUTHERN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 1:38 PM Subject: [IL-SOUTHERN] Maes in St. Clair Co. > I am searching for any information on a family that settled in St. Clair Co. around 1853. They were an immigrant family from Belgium. There were seven that came over. Mary Maes(mother) John,Jacob,Tony,Leonard, Peter and Eugenia. John is my great grandfather but I do not know what happened to any of the others except Eugenia. John and his family went down near Murphysboro around the 1890's. Any other info would be appreciated. > > Thanks > Dan Robinson >

I am searching for any information on a family that settled in St. Clair Co. around 1853. They were an immigrant family from Belgium. There were seven that came over. Mary Maes(mother) John,Jacob,Tony,Leonard, Peter and Eugenia. John is my great grandfather but I do not know what happened to any of the others except Eugenia. John and his family went down near Murphysboro around the 1890's. Any other info would be appreciated. Thanks Dan Robinson

Not sure. I only think that one of mine died in St. Clair County. Here is what I have. Bennett LANE and wife Mary. both born in NC are in the 1840, 1850 census. In the 1860 census they are listed with Elijah LANE and wife Elizabeth. A good assumption is they are parents of Elijah, but I haven't verified that one. I believe Bennett died in St. Clair county, but I don't know for sure nor where he would be buried. I have just found these people. The John B Lane in the census of 1850 and 1860 is my GGGrandfather. Elizabeth's maiden name was WELLS and there are family on the census records in Perry County as well. Thanks. Rich & Terri Moberly Headstone Hunters Bartlesville, Washington County, Oklahoma rmoberly@arvest.com work rmoberly@swbell.net home >>> rjmillerjr@erols.com 12/14/00 06:16AM >>> Which Lanes are you researching in St. Clair County? Lynda Lane Miller Rich Moberly wrote: > The surnames I am lookin for are listed below: > > LANE Perry and St. Clair County > WELLS Perry County > BOLENDER Fulton County > GUDGEL not sure of county > OGDEN not suer of county > BOARDWINE Fulton County > > Thanks and happy hunting > Rich & Terri Moberly > Headstone Hunters > Bartlesville, Washington County, Oklahoma > rmoberly@arvest.com work > rmoberly@swbell.net home

Which Lanes are you researching in St. Clair County? Lynda Lane Miller Rich Moberly wrote: > The surnames I am lookin for are listed below: > > LANE Perry and St. Clair County > WELLS Perry County > BOLENDER Fulton County > GUDGEL not sure of county > OGDEN not suer of county > BOARDWINE Fulton County > > Thanks and happy hunting > Rich & Terri Moberly > Headstone Hunters > Bartlesville, Washington County, Oklahoma > rmoberly@arvest.com work > rmoberly@swbell.net home

I am new to this list. Here are the names that I am researching and the information that I have. If anyone can help in any way, I would greatly appreciate it! EGGERS- William Arthur Eggers (possibly Arthur William), married to Emma (possibly Voyles). They lived in St. Clair County at one time that I know for sure, yet I can't find them in a census there. They may have had more children, but the one I know for sure was adopted, Harold Joseph Eggers. His SS app shows that he was born in 1923. He died in 1952 on Eads Bridge. HINCKLEY- Harry Hinckley married Madge REIDELBERGER (daughter of Peter REIDELBERGER). At one time they lived in Pickneyville, and at another, DuQuoin. I know his children, but dates of Harry and his parents, I am clueless. TIA for any help! Michelle-St. Louis Researching: EGGERS, HINCKLEY, REIDELBERGER, YAHL

The surnames I am lookin for are listed below: LANE Perry and St. Clair County WELLS Perry County BOLENDER Fulton County GUDGEL not sure of county OGDEN not suer of county BOARDWINE Fulton County Thanks and happy hunting Rich & Terri Moberly Headstone Hunters Bartlesville, Washington County, Oklahoma rmoberly@arvest.com work rmoberly@swbell.net home

Looking for information on Robert and Dorothy (CARR) NEALSON who moved to Herrin, Williamson County about 1923 (I think). Other members of my CARR family moved at that time from Perry County, OH and I think Dorothy Nealson may be my g-grandaunt. Would especially like to get a copy of her death certificate. Here's what I know: Robert Nealson b. Feb 1865 in IL; d. Unkown married Dorothy J. Carr in 1889 in Perry Co., OH; b. Nov 1870 in Eng.; d. Unk. Had issue: Robert Nealson b. 24 May 1890 John Nealson b. 05 Jan 1894 Dorothy immigrated about 1880 - 1883. The NEALSONs may be buried with my other CARRs at Herrin City Cemetery. Does anyone know the address of this cemetery? Are there Herrin city directories for the above timeframe? Any ideas where else I might look? Can anyone check the IL Death Index for me? Any info will be appreciated. Diane DMarTaylor@aol.com "Diane and Mark Taylor"

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I think they had to pick a place that they could go there and get back home in the same day and no one suspect anything because most of these marriages were kept secret at least for a while. I think KY was another one of those states but I am not sure. I know many people went through MO and just over the border to Arkansas and then back to IL. TN people could go from Memphis across the line to Arkansas. I never heard of Evansville or Indiana being one of those states. Lynda Miller Bill & Donna Amos wrote: > I wonder about Indiana. My grandparents lived in Ky and went to Evensville > to get married. I never could figure why, since I don't have their records. > Does anyone know what the laws were then? Donna oneamos@bellsouth.net

I wonder about Indiana. My grandparents lived in Ky and went to Evensville to get married. I never could figure why, since I don't have their records. Does anyone know what the laws were then? Donna oneamos@bellsouth.net

I was born and raised in St. Clair County, IL. I can remember when I was small that everyone went to Arkansas if they were under age. Lynda Miller Joyce M Hennessy wrote: > Hi everyone, > > A young couple, probably in St. Clair Co., in 1915-1916 wants to get > married. Bride is only 15-16, where would they go to get married. Out > of state? Any help greatly appreciated. > > Joyce McDaniel Hennessy

They'd probably do it in-state. My grandmother was about that age when she married in Shawneetown. Of course, they eloped, then returned to their families, keeping it a secret for a number of weeks before someone spilled the beans. That was around 1929. Jon Musgrave www.IllinoisHistory.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Joyce M Hennessy <jmhennessy@juno.com> To: <IL-SOUTHERN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 9:01 PM Subject: [IL-SOUTHERN] Under age marriage > Hi everyone, > > A young couple, probably in St. Clair Co., in 1915-1916 wants to get > married. Bride is only 15-16, where would they go to get married. Out > of state? Any help greatly appreciated. > > Joyce McDaniel Hennessy > >

Hi everyone, A young couple, probably in St. Clair Co., in 1915-1916 wants to get married. Bride is only 15-16, where would they go to get married. Out of state? Any help greatly appreciated. Joyce McDaniel Hennessy

Probably in MO