Elaine, I hope you saw the answer I gave to Marita because it applies to you as well but if you didn't, I suggest you email Cathie at [email protected] as she should be able to help you. If I lived in the Alton area I would be glad to help you out myself, but I suggest Cathie because she has been very helpful for my own research in the area. She will charge $5.00 but she is worth it. Marian