Page 25 of the Palatine 1870 census includes three Thies families and one Engelking family. There is a two-year-old Fred Thies in this household: Fred Thies, 36, farmer, born Hannover Dora Thies, 29, born Hannover Sophia Thies, 8, born IL Louisa Thies, 6, born IL Henry Thies, 4, born IL Fred Thies, 2, born IL Henry Thies, 63, born Hannover Sophia Thies, 59, born Hannover I'll send you the image. Christie Robinson