she can send them to Rozek at the STDL.... 130 South Roselle Road, Schaumburg, IL 60193 for hyperion which would be nice, then others can see it...yes? ps, my emails to aol are bouncing...both via hotmail and gmail... thanks JILL!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: ORION195@aol.com<mailto:ORION195@aol.com> To: IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 9:48 AM Subject: Re: [ILckSCH] a Maria Biesterfeld 1939 1916 I don't have a scanner(should really get one). I asked my cousin to send it to you. I send her copies of everything I receive. I was going to send for Conrad Biesterfeld's also from Illinois death index. There were 2 Conrad's then(I believe). Jill ==== IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG Mailing List ==== _____________________________ To post: IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L@rootsweb.com> To Search: go to rootsweb.com, then to interactive search then enter in il-cook-schaumburg ARCHIVES: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/il-cook-schaumburg<http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/il-cook-schaumburg> . Unsubscribe at IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L-request@rootsweb.com> or -D If there is a system problem and you cannot get to valentine, go here: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/help.cgi<http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/help.cgi> We are a list2 list.... SEE ALSO: il-cook-elkgrove il-cook-palatine fpsah60194@hotmail.com<mailto:fpsah60194@hotmail.com> ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx<http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx>

Hi, I feel stupid asking these questions because I lived in Mt Prospect until I was 12, I didn't ask about townships, etc at that age. I have a little trouble understanding what townships are. There are towns, counties, but I have no idea what makes up a township. Please correct any mistakes I make trying to explain my connections below. My grandmother was born in Arlington Heights, but is it sometimes referred to as Elk Grove, because that is the township? Her parents were William Kirchhoff and Marie Busse Kirchhoff. The house she grew up in was used by the VFW in the early 60's, and maybe earlier. The house she grew up in was originally owned by William Kirchhoff, one of the founders of Mt Prospect. Wm Kirchhoff, William Busse, and Wm Wille were the founders of school district 57, which was the first school district in Illinois to cross township lines. Wm Kirchhoff served many years on the school board. He also was the drainage commissioner for many years, and worked hard to prevent flooding. He was commissioner of a few drainage districts, for instance the Palatine Drainage District, along with Henry C Freise. As an aside, two of William Kirchhoff's daughters married two Freise brothers, who grew up on a farm in Schaumberg. I have a picture of some of the family in front of the farmhouse (then George's farm) at their 50th wedding anniversary. It has many of their relatives in it, Freise, Zersen, Kirchhoff, Winkleman, Schaefer, and more. In 1917 Wm Kirchhoff and his wife Marie Busse gave or sold their farm to their son George and they moved to Mt Prospect into a home he built there. It was one of the earliest homes, at 109 S Emerson St. (I spent half my life in that house when I was little, I had no idea it had any historic importance). Were Arlington Heights and Mt Prospect called Elk Grove before their present names? I didn't mean to get into all that, I have been researching them lately, and have been reading old newspaper articles. I am working on the genealogy section of my website, and hope to have many newspaper articles there, and I have the picture of their 50th wedding anniversary, etc. I have a huge box of pictures to go through and I find many articles online, which I want to add eventually. I have the picture of the house on George's farm, but it has many relatives in front of it, which is nice. But I was wondering if anyone had a picture of it as it stood, and was used by the VFW before it was torn down? Does anyone have Freise genealogy online? I am going to see Herb Freise in the next few weeks, he is 89 now. If anyone has any questions for him you can let me know and I can ask him, or let me know who you are, and I'll ask him if it is ok to contact him. He doesn't have a computer. In the past, it has always been fine with him. Thank you and I hope this didn't put anyone to sleep! susan voth stier, kirchhoff, busse, freise,,,,,,

first off, any images that you or anyone on the list have, i would like to request a scan of it to be sent to STDL for the digital archives... that way MANY people get to see the images and perhaps others of their own family...you may be able to help others with names and they could help you with names.. it is a sharing opportunity that costs nothing and we all have a lot to gain from it... and you dont even need to leave your computer! jrozek@stdl.org is the address to use... and be sure to clearly identifiy the place and the people and perhaps a date as well as YOUR FULL NAME so that propert credits and info are attached to the image... only ONE image per email so if you have more than one, then thatmeansmore than one email... so that rozek can process one email and more on to the next whithout have to keep an email around half done... second... before towns or cities there were areas called townships... apz 36 square miles square , elk grove township being east of schaumburg and palatine being north and wheeling above elk grove... go here and read all there is on this page http://landplats.ilsos.net/Flash/Welcome.html then ENTER then read the entire page and before you click on anything , go to the top and see the five headings...click on each one in turn and read all of those.... then when you are ready, go to view plats... click on COOK then look at the results... and you will see how wheeling, palatine, schaumburg barrington and elkgrove are all next to each other... now in each of these, you can click and see the original plat that was done in 1853.... townships were areas that were govt areas... each started out as numbered places... t41 N R10 e as in TOWNSHIP 41 rows north of the base line in southern ILLINOIS and 10 ranges or columns east of the 3 principal meridian in illinois.... whcih you will see in the info on cyberdriveillinois........ ask on the list if you have problems more with this... ... On 1/27/06, tbcsbcs <tbcsbcs@hotmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > I feel stupid asking these questions because I lived in Mt Prospect until I > was 12, I didn't ask about townships, etc at that age. I have a little > trouble understanding what townships are. There are towns, counties, but I > have no idea what makes up a township. Please correct any mistakes I make > trying to explain my connections below. > > My grandmother was born in Arlington Heights, but is it sometimes referred > to as Elk Grove, because that is the township? Her parents were William > Kirchhoff and Marie Busse Kirchhoff. The house she grew up in was used by > the VFW in the early 60's, and maybe earlier. The house she grew up in was > originally owned by William Kirchhoff, one of the founders of Mt Prospect. > Wm Kirchhoff, William Busse, and Wm Wille were the founders of school > district 57, which was the first school district in Illinois to cross > township lines. Wm Kirchhoff served many years on the school board. He also > was the drainage commissioner for many years, and worked hard to prevent > flooding. He was commissioner of a few drainage districts, for instance the > Palatine Drainage District, along with Henry C Freise. As an aside, two of > William Kirchhoff's daughters married two Freise brothers, who grew up on a > farm in Schaumberg. I have a picture of some of the family in front of the > farmhouse (then George's farm) at their 50th wedding anniversary. It has > many of their relatives in it, Freise, Zersen, Kirchhoff, Winkleman, > Schaefer, and more. > > In 1917 Wm Kirchhoff and his wife Marie Busse gave or sold their farm to > their son George and they moved to Mt Prospect into a home he built there. > It was one of the earliest homes, at 109 S Emerson St. (I spent half my > life in that house when I was little, I had no idea it had any historic > importance). > > Were Arlington Heights and Mt Prospect called Elk Grove before their present > names? > > I didn't mean to get into all that, I have been researching them lately, and > have been reading old newspaper articles. I am working on the genealogy > section of my website, and hope to have many newspaper articles there, and > I have the picture of their 50th wedding anniversary, etc. I have a huge box > of pictures to go through and I find many articles online, which I want to > add eventually. > > I have the picture of the house on George's farm, but it has many relatives > in front of it, which is nice. But I was wondering if anyone had a picture > of it as it stood, and was used by the VFW before it was torn down? > > Does anyone have Freise genealogy online? I am going to see Herb Freise in > the next few weeks, he is 89 now. If anyone has any questions for him you > can let me know and I can ask him, or let me know who you are, and I'll ask > him if it is ok to contact him. He doesn't have a computer. In the past, it > has always been fine with him. > > Thank you and I hope this didn't put anyone to sleep! > susan voth > stier, kirchhoff, busse, freise,,,,,, > > > ==== IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG Mailing List ==== > _____________________________ > To post: IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L@rootsweb.com > To Search: go to rootsweb.com, then to interactive search then enter in il-cook-schaumburg > ARCHIVES: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/il-cook-schaumburg . > Unsubscribe at IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L-request@rootsweb.com or -D > If there is a system problem and you cannot get to valentine, go here: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/help.cgi We are a list2 list.... > SEE ALSO: il-cook-elkgrove il-cook-palatine fpsah60194@hotmail.com > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >

Susan, I have you listed in my family tree and am able to track back the Kirchhoffs to Johann Heinrich Jurgen Christoph Kirchhoff, b: Feb 07, 1795, d: Apr 03, 1870 who married Christine Marie Pfingsten, b: Feb 20, 1801, d: Aug 14, 1880; track back the Busses to Ernst Ludwig Busse, b: Apr 21, 1769, d: ? who married Marie Eleonore Mos, b: Aug 11, 1770, d: Nov 24, 1825: and track back the Freise/Freyses to Hermann Heinrich Freyse, b: 1743, d: Jan 16, 1813 who married Maria Christine Meyer, b: Oct 1748, d: Apr 02, 1813. While I have the Zersen, Winkleman and Schaefer families listed, I do not track them back very far. Regarding Herb Freise, I also have him listed. If you visit my web site at http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/n/e/r/Larry-G-Nerge/ you'll find all these people listed. The problem from your perspective is that I only show selected reports which have the privitize feature turned on. Feel free to contact me directly at lnerge1@tampabay.rr.com and I can send you customized reports focused on exactly what you care to see (I know we corresponded back in December, but you didn't request any reports then). Larry Nerge ----- Original Message ----- From: "tbcsbcs" <tbcsbcs@hotmail.com> To: <IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 5:48 PM Subject: [ILckSCH] townships > Hi, > I feel stupid asking these questions because I lived in Mt Prospect until I > was 12, I didn't ask about townships, etc at that age. I have a little > trouble understanding what townships are. There are towns, counties, but I > have no idea what makes up a township. Please correct any mistakes I make > trying to explain my connections below. > > My grandmother was born in Arlington Heights, but is it sometimes referred > to as Elk Grove, because that is the township? Her parents were William > Kirchhoff and Marie Busse Kirchhoff. The house she grew up in was used by > the VFW in the early 60's, and maybe earlier. The house she grew up in was > originally owned by William Kirchhoff, one of the founders of Mt Prospect. > Wm Kirchhoff, William Busse, and Wm Wille were the founders of school > district 57, which was the first school district in Illinois to cross > township lines. Wm Kirchhoff served many years on the school board. He also > was the drainage commissioner for many years, and worked hard to prevent > flooding. He was commissioner of a few drainage districts, for instance the > Palatine Drainage District, along with Henry C Freise. As an aside, two of > William Kirchhoff's daughters married two Freise brothers, who grew up on a > farm in Schaumberg. I have a picture of some of the family in front of the > farmhouse (then George's farm) at their 50th wedding anniversary. It has > many of their relatives in it, Freise, Zersen, Kirchhoff, Winkleman, > Schaefer, and more. > > In 1917 Wm Kirchhoff and his wife Marie Busse gave or sold their farm to > their son George and they moved to Mt Prospect into a home he built there. > It was one of the earliest homes, at 109 S Emerson St. (I spent half my > life in that house when I was little, I had no idea it had any historic > importance). > > Were Arlington Heights and Mt Prospect called Elk Grove before their present > names? > > I didn't mean to get into all that, I have been researching them lately, and > have been reading old newspaper articles. I am working on the genealogy > section of my website, and hope to have many newspaper articles there, and > I have the picture of their 50th wedding anniversary, etc. I have a huge box > of pictures to go through and I find many articles online, which I want to > add eventually. > > I have the picture of the house on George's farm, but it has many relatives > in front of it, which is nice. But I was wondering if anyone had a picture > of it as it stood, and was used by the VFW before it was torn down? > > Does anyone have Freise genealogy online? I am going to see Herb Freise in > the next few weeks, he is 89 now. If anyone has any questions for him you > can let me know and I can ask him, or let me know who you are, and I'll ask > him if it is ok to contact him. He doesn't have a computer. In the past, it > has always been fine with him. > > Thank you and I hope this didn't put anyone to sleep! > susan voth > stier, kirchhoff, busse, freise,,,,,, > > > ==== IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG Mailing List ==== > _____________________________ > To post: IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L@rootsweb.com > To Search: go to rootsweb.com, then to interactive search then enter in il-cook-schaumburg > ARCHIVES: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/il-cook-schaumburg . > Unsubscribe at IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L-request@rootsweb.com or -D > If there is a system problem and you cannot get to valentine, go here: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/help.cgi We are a list2 list.... > SEE ALSO: il-cook-elkgrove il-cook-palatine fpsah60194@hotmail.com > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >