Hi Christie, Thanks for the 1870 Palatine Twp., Cook Co., IL Census page. I looked and looked but I could not match up anything of the Thies families that are listed. The closest I find is the one family you listed below, with the eldest Henry Thies age 63... From the Apelern churchbooks there is a Johann Heinrich Christoph Thies born 27 JAN 1880, baptised 31 JAN 1808 at Apelern #3, Germany, first wife Caroline Wilhelmine Wehmhoefer married at Apelern 22 APR 1832. She died before 1847 and he remarried in 1847 at Apelern to Engel Dorothea Justine Eleonore Laging born 03 OCT 1824, baptized 10 OCT 1824 at Apelern #41. The Schaumburger Auswanderer book #1052 lists this: Thies, Joh. Heinrich Christoph, Apelern, Ackersmann, geb. 27.1.1808 in Apelern, verh., mit Ehefrau Engel Dorothea Eleonore geb. Laging, geb. 3.10.1824 in Apelern to Amerika 1850 (the information that they immigrated was noted in their 1847 Apelern marriage record.) I do not have any children listed for this family, nor do I know where they settled in America. By the way, list, other than the Fred and Dora Thies family listed below there are other Thies (and Engelking) families on this page. I have included the information below. Karen Rowe Engelking, Hy age 38 Hessian ", Maria age 32 HEssian ", Martha age 6 IL ", Emma age 4 IL ", Henry age 2 IL Thies, Henry age 38 Hannover ", Mina age 36 Hannover ", August age 13 IL ", Henry age 11 IL ", Sophia age 9 IL ", Emma age 7 IL ", Louise age 5 IL ", Mary age 1 IL Thies, Wm age 34 Hannover ", Dora age 32 Hannover ", Mary age 7 IL ", Willy age 5 IL ", John age 3 IL ----- Page 25 of the Palatine 1870 census includes three Thies families and one Engelking family. There is a two-year-old Fred Thies in this household: Fred Thies, 36, farmer, born Hannover Dora Thies, 29, born Hannover Sophia Thies, 8, born IL Louisa Thies, 6, born IL Henry Thies, 4, born IL Fred Thies, 2, born IL Henry Thies, 63, born Hannover Sophia Thies, 59, born Hannover I'll send you the image. Christie Robinson