Thanks for the question about the accuracy / inconsistencies of the transcribed church registers of St. John. I found the reaction to my question about the cemetery monument partly a little strange because it regarded more formal aspects than contents. Actually I did not want to react any more, because my English is too bad to recognize the finenesses of the language nuances. For me it was clear that the books got transcribed. Which people have done this and in which creative process, is uninteresting for me as long as the results are correct. Karen has pointed to the way of transcription in her 1997 document. The transcribed church registers have to be used with some caution. OK! Years ago I had already asked Karen for missing years after foundation of the church. Anyway, every earnest family researcher permanently tries to verify his results for to make it more certain. However, I must underline once again - as Valentine did -, how valuably the transcription is, because only by that, the information about our forefathers became accessible to the researchers all over the world. Historical documents lose its value if they are shut off from the public. The formal aspect, it could contain inaccuracies, is secondary. This also applies to the work of Elaine Lorinczi. Her effort, to transcribe the inscriptions and to publish it, is very important. Whether she has done this in cooperation with the church is insignificant at first. At doubts one must check it and, if possible, search more deeply onto the sources. I understood the note of Valentine as a reference to the „not original sources“. If the inaccuracy of the transcribed church register entries would have been so fundamentally that one must doubt the data, it would not help to talk with the creators. I would have expected that history-conscious people from Schaumburg would have revised the data with the original church registers and would have published it. Furthermore, the example with the church St. John („it’s Cook land“) also shows that one may not confine himself to only one County with the research. The church members also lived in Du Page County (e.g. Ontarioville). Joerg Schnadt Potsdam, Germany -----Original Message----- Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 02:46:41 +0100 Subject: Re: [ILckSCH] st john rodenburg From: MjB To: IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L@rootsweb.com valentine53179 What exactly would you like to ask those who original transcribers, that would reassure you the typed documents are accurate and/or genuine? Pastor St. John Ev. Lutheran ....valentine53179  wrote: > to be clear... karen, tho she has a listing, did not record the books > of st john but transcribed a typewriter written document that has no > authorship to a computerized and sortable document. The original > typed version, I have seen, is at the church. > > the listing itself was created by people unknown in a typed version. > > I have done a quick reference some time ago and there were instances > where the typed document did not match entirely with the books and > vs.... so, if you are finding inconsistencies, please consider > reviewing the st john rodenburg records at the STDL where there is a > full set of printed copies of the books... A quick reference of the > record types is contained in each of the several books. > > I wish we had the chance to talk with the creators of the first typed > document to know what they did in the process of creating it... there > is no doubt in my mind that it was a multi step process... first an > english transcribe to some Cards (perhaps) and then alphabetized and > they typed from that... (as the typed sheet predated computers and > tabulation equipment...) ==== IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG Mailing List ==== _____________________________ To post:  IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L@rootsweb.com To Search: go to rootsweb.com, then to interactive search then enter in il-cook-schaumburg ARCHIVES: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/il-cook-schaumburg   . Unsubscribe at IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L-request@rootsweb.com or -D If there is a system problem and you cannot get to valentine, go here: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/help.cgi   We are a list2 list.... SEE ALSO: il-cook-elkgrove  il-cook-palatine      fpsah60194@hotmail.com ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

There was one line that caught my eye in Valentines post--about the Ontarioville Church. Does anyone know if there are any records anywhere of that church? My husbands grandparents were members there. Johann [John] and Dorothea Dohse [Dohs] Bremer. They had several children who died while they lived there and were buried in the cemetery in Ontarioville. Johann Bremer died in 1885 and his widow and children moved to Bloomingdale. He was also buried in the Ontarioville cemetery. There were never any headstones as they were very poor. I would love to find some confirmation of the word of mouth family history that I have on the Bremer family. Grace

how they went about it...? what was the 'straw' that made one or more people decided to commit the time to do the work...? and when whas this done...? and who were the authors of the work? as you know, the books themselves are in old script and lengthy and the sections of the books are not continual, intermixed from page to page..... the records that were typed (and then again processed to another system- perhaps in a wordprocessing docuemnt) are fine to use, especially since they ARE used and without doubt will CONTINUE to be used.... but there is one book that has entries that are almost the same - tho not exact - as entries in another book. The books are not exact however and might actually cover the years when st johns and the ontarioville church were administered by the same minister but... i am not sure, cannot read the script and though have asked script readers to translate, come up with no answers.... i think that the accuracy of the typed sheets are nearer to VERY ACCURATE than to NOT ACCURATE... IF the researcher were to exhaust all resources (that is IF they were to exhaust all resources) and still not find a sacramental entry for a person that perhaps a review of the books at the library would be in order for the periods of time that are logical... the table of contents of the books should be of help to the researcher so that EVERY page is not necessary...... i am NOT suggesting that a full review of the books if the entry is found on the transcribe sheets..ONLY IF there is just no other place to look....and someone is 'lost' there was no question as to them being genuine... as you know i saw the originally typed pages... typed well before photocpy and wordperfect etall... and also that there was a newer version of the same typed pages... in fact, both set were copied and are included in the booklets at both the church and the library... there is no doubt that the work to transcribe the records was a time consuming effort.. NO DOUBT.... and we are lucky to have had people dedicated to reading and transcribing and listing the old script entries... for us, it is a wonderment and a gift..... On 1/11/06, MjB <confessthefaith@comcast.net> wrote: > valentine53179 > What exactly would you like to ask those who original transcribers, that > would reassure you the typed documents are accurate and/or genuine? > Pastor > St. John Ev. Lutheran > > ....valentine53179 wrote: > > to be clear... karen, tho she has a listing, did not record the books > > of st john but transcribed a typewriter written document that has no > > authorship to a computerized and sortable document. The original > > typed version, I have seen, is at the church. > > > > the listing itself was created by people unknown in a typed version. > > > > I have done a quick reference some time ago and there were instances > > where the typed document did not match entirely with the books and > > vs.... so, if you are finding inconsistencies, please consider > > reviewing the st john rodenburg records at the STDL where there is a > > full set of printed copies of the books... A quick reference of the > > record types is contained in each of the several books. > > > > I wish we had the chance to talk with the creators of the first typed > > document to know what they did in the process of creating it... there > > is no doubt in my mind that it was a multi step process... first an > > english transcribe to some Cards (perhaps) and then alphabetized and > > they typed from that... (as the typed sheet predated computers and > > tabulation equipment...) > > > ==== IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG Mailing List ==== > _____________________________ > To post: IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L@rootsweb.com > To Search: go to rootsweb.com, then to interactive search then enter in il-cook-schaumburg > ARCHIVES: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/il-cook-schaumburg . > Unsubscribe at IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L-request@rootsweb.com or -D > If there is a system problem and you cannot get to valentine, go here: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/help.cgi We are a list2 list.... > SEE ALSO: il-cook-elkgrove il-cook-palatine fpsah60194@hotmail.com > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > >

valentine53179 What exactly would you like to ask those who original transcribers, that would reassure you the typed documents are accurate and/or genuine? Pastor St. John Ev. Lutheran ....valentine53179 wrote: > to be clear... karen, tho she has a listing, did not record the books > of st john but transcribed a typewriter written document that has no > authorship to a computerized and sortable document. The original > typed version, I have seen, is at the church. > > the listing itself was created by people unknown in a typed version. > > I have done a quick reference some time ago and there were instances > where the typed document did not match entirely with the books and > vs.... so, if you are finding inconsistencies, please consider > reviewing the st john rodenburg records at the STDL where there is a > full set of printed copies of the books... A quick reference of the > record types is contained in each of the several books. > > I wish we had the chance to talk with the creators of the first typed > document to know what they did in the process of creating it... there > is no doubt in my mind that it was a multi step process... first an > english transcribe to some Cards (perhaps) and then alphabetized and > they typed from that... (as the typed sheet predated computers and > tabulation equipment...)

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courier news 01 04 06 In Memoriam In Loving Memory of Ervin H. Greve January 2, 1995 - January 2, 2006 Where did it go those eleven years. Still many days we fight back the tears. Ali was baptised just yesterday, oh how I hope you saw her glow. Oh how I wish you could see her grow. You are missed by all lives you have touched. We'll love you forever and always so much. XO Veronica, Dorothy, Donna and Ali XO And All of Your Family XO

there is an image on this obit, grab it whilst you can http://www.legacy.com/DailyHerald/Obituaries.asp?Page=SearchResults<http://www.legacy.com/DailyHerald/Obituaries.asp?Page=SearchResults> til 01-20-06 http://www.legacy.com/DailyHerald/Guestbook.asp?Page=GuestBook&PersonID=16139311<http://www.legacy.com/DailyHerald/Guestbook.asp?Page=GuestBook&PersonID=16139311> Kathleen J. Ahern of Inverness for 36 years The Funeral Mass for Kathleen J. Ahern, 70, will be held at 9:30 a.m. Saturday, at Holy Family Parish, 2515 W. Palatine Road, Inverness. Entombment will be in St. Michael the Archangel Mausoleum. Visitation will be from 3 to 9 p.m. today, at Smith Corcoran Funeral Home, 185 E. Northwest Highway, Palatine, and from 8:30 a.m. until the time of services Saturday, at the church. Born May 11, 1935, in Chicago, she passed away Wednesday, Dec. 28, 2005. Mrs. Ahern graduated from Mundelein College and earned a Masters Degree in Library Science from Northern Illinois University. She was a librarian for 22 years for the Barrington Area Library. She was passionate about her library skills and used them after retirement to volunteer and found the Holy Family Catholic Academy Library, which was dedicated in her name on Dec. 8, 2005. She was a voracious reader, lover of the arts, avid walker and a courageous and daring sailor on Lake Michi! gan. She was the beloved wife of Walter J.; loving mother Mary Ann (Steven) Stubitz, Jim (Betsy) Ahern, Paul (Maureen) Ahern, Carol (Gary) Thelen, Ted (Katy) Ahern and Nancy (David) Gelpke; loving and dedicated grandmother of Steven, Michael and Samantha Stubitz, Jamie, Kaitlyn, Molly and Maggie Ahern, Marty, Paul, Brian and Rory Ahern, Anna, Julia and Caroline Thelen, Jack and Ally Ahern, and Hodge and Gabrielle Gelpke; dear sister of Richard (Patricia) Cronin, and the late John (the late Isabelle) Cronin, Paul (Patricia) Cronin, Ann (the late William) Corrigan and Fr. Edward Cronin O.M.I.; and fond aunt and friend of many. She was preceded in death by her parents, Paul and Della Cronin. In lieu of flowers, memorial contributions to Holy Family Catholic Academy Library, 2515 W. Palatine Road, Inverness, appreciated. For information, 847-359-8020. Published in the Chicago Suburban Daily Herald from 12/29/2005 - 12/30/2005. and sch review 01 05 06 A Funeral Mass for Kathleen J. Ahern, 70, of Inverness for 36 years, was celebrated Dec. 31 at Holy Family Parish, Inverness. Born May 11, 1935, in Chicago, she died Dec. 28. Mrs. Ahern graduated from Mundelein College and earned a master's degree in library science from Northern Illinois University. She was a librarian for 22 years for the Barrington Area Library. After retirement, she founded the Holy Family Catholic Academy Library, which was dedicated in her name on Dec. 8, 2005. Mrs. Ahern is survived by her husband, Walter J.; six children, Mary Ann (Steven) Stubitz, Jim (Betsy), Paul (Maureen), Carol (Gary) Thelen, Ted (Katy) and Nancy (David) Gelpke; her grandchildren, Steven, Michael and Samantha Stubitz, Jamie, Kaitlyn, Molly and Maggie Ahern, Marty, Paul, Brian and Rory Ahern, Anna, Julia and Caroline Thelen, Jack and Ally Ahern, and Hodge and Gabrielle Gelpke; a brother, Richard (Patricia) Cronin; and many nieces, nephews and friends. She was preceded in death by her parents, Paul and Della Cronin; and her siblings, John (the late Isabelle) Cronin, Paul (Patricia) Cronin, Ann (the late William) Corrigan and the Rev. Edward Cronin O.M.I. Memorials to Holy Family Catholic Academy Library, 2515 W. Palatine Road, Inverness, are appreciated.

Robert E. Lange of Hoffman Estates for 22 years Visitation for til 01 20 06 http://www.legacy.com/DailyHerald/Guestbook.asp?Page=GuestBook&PersonID=16223877<http://www.legacy.com/DailyHerald/Guestbook.asp?Page=GuestBook&PersonID=16223877> Robert E. Lange, 71, will be from 10 a.m. until the time of the services at noon Saturday, at Meadows Funeral Home, 3615 Kirchoff Road (½ block east of Route 53), Rolling Meadows. Interment will be in Memory Gardens Cemetery, Arlington Heights. Born Feb. 14, 1934, in Palatine, he died Wednesday, Jan. 4, 2006, at home, peacefully surrounded by his family. Robert was a veteran serving for the Army. He worked for the Niles Post Office as a postman for 29 years. After his retirement, he was a care giver. Robert was an avid golfer and enjoyed gardening at home. He is survived by his wife, Vicki; children, David (Debbie) Ziemba, Ron (Christine) Ziemba, Ken (Kathy) Ziemba, Tom (Jenn) Lange, and Michelle and John Lange; grandchildren, Jordan, Ryne, Kristi and Kevin; and sister, Patti Lange. He was preceded in death by his parents. In lieu of flowers, memorials may be made to the family. For information, 847-253-0224. Published in the Chicago Suburban Daily Herald on 1/6/2006.

til 01 20 06 http://www.legacy.com/DailyHerald/Guestbook.asp?Page=GuestBook&PersonID=16217315<http://www.legacy.com/DailyHerald/Guestbook.asp?Page=GuestBook&PersonID=16217315> Henry W. Freise Funeral services for Henry W. Freise, 69, of Marengo, will be held at 11 a.m. Friday, at St. John's Lutheran Church, 6821 Main St. Union, Ill. Pastor Norman Meyer will officiate. Interment will be in Marengo City Cemetery. Visitation will be from 3 to 9 p.m. today, and from 10 a.m. until the time of services Friday, at the church. 11:00 A.M. Born Aug. 9, 1936, in Palatine, the son of Henry and Elvira (nee Heide) Freise, he died Sunday Jan. 1, 2006, at Good Shepherd Hospital, Barrington, surrounded by his family. On Nov. 2, 1957, in Union, he married Jane Dollman. Henry served in the Army National Guard from 1957 to 1964. He was employed by Woodstock Die Casting for 25 years and retired from Union Special, Huntley in 1998. Henry had a lifelong involvement with the family business, Freise's Country Market in Union. Surviving are his wife of 48 years, Jane; four children: Lori Freise of Marengo, Joni Freise of Union, David Freise of Harvard and Teri Sue (M! ichael) Herff of Hebron; six grandchildren, Nicholas, Thomas, Emily, Vincent, and Frank Herff, and Connor Freise; his mother, Elvira and two brothers, Kenneth and Donald, all of Union; a sister, Lois Reiser of Marengo; and many nieces and nephews. He was preceded in death by his father, an infant daughter, Debra Jean and a brother-in-law, Floyd Reiser. Memorials may be made in his name to the family. Arrangements by Miller Funeral Home, West Dundee, 847-426-3436. Published in the Chicago Suburban Daily Herald on 1/5/2006.

til 01 20 06 http://www.legacy.com/DailyHerald/Guestbook.asp?Page=GuestBook&PersonID=16199381<http://www.legacy.com/DailyHerald/Guestbook.asp?Page=GuestBook&PersonID=16199381> Paul C. "Butch" Meyer lifelong resident of Lake Zurich Funeral services for Paul C. "Butch" Meyer, 79, will be held at 11 a.m. Wednesday, at St. Matthew Lutheran Church, 24500 N. Old McHenry Road, Hawthorn Woods. Interment will be in St. Matthew Lutheran Cemetery. Visitation will be from 3 to 8 p.m. today, at Ahlgrim Family Funeral Home, 415 S. Buesching Road, Lake Zurich, and from 10 a.m. until the time of funeral service Wednesday, at the church. Mr. Meyer died Saturday, Dec. 31, 2005, at Good Shepherd Hospital in Cuba Township, Ill. Paul was a lifelong member of St. Matthew Lutheran Church in Hawthorn Woods. He was a dairy farmer until 1969, then was employed as a machinist until his retirement. He is survived by his loving wife of 54 years, Marjorie M. Meyer (nee Buesching). He was the cherished father of Melvin (Barbara) Meyer, Arlene Meyer, Bonnie (Scott) McLeod, Linda (Ron) Kohl and Susan (Fred) Dodge; dear grandfather of Paul, Sarah and Bill Meyer, and Andrea a! nd Timmy Dodge; and the beloved brother of Birdean Elliott. He was preceded in death by his parents, Paul and Lillian Meyer (nee Lintleman); and his brother, George Meyer. In lieu of flowers, memorials would be appreciated to St. Matthew Lutheran Church 24500 N. Old McHenry Road, Hawthorn Woods, IL. For information, 847-540-8871. Published in the Chicago Suburban Daily Herald from 1/2/2006 - 1/3/2006.

til 01-30-06 http://www.legacy.com/DailyHerald/Guestbook.asp?Page=GuestBook&PersonID=16203741<http://www.legacy.com/DailyHerald/Guestbook.asp?Page=GuestBook&PersonID=16203741> Sean Patrick Busse of South Elgin A Mass for Sean Patrick Busse, 25, will be celebrated at 10:30 a.m. Friday, at St. Patrick's Catholic Church, Crane Road, St. Charles. Private burial will be in Mount Hope Cemetery, Elgin. Visitation will be from 4 to 8 p.m. Thursday, at Laird Funeral Home, 310 S. State St., Elgin, and from 9:30 a.m. until the time of the Mass Friday, at the church. Born March 31, 1980, in Rockford, he passed away Saturday, Dec. 31, 2005, at Provena St. Joseph Hospital in Elgin. Sean lost a two-year battle with a spinal cord injury sustained in an auto accident. He will be dearly missed. Survivors include his father, John (Jean) Busse of Elgin; mother, Barbara Busse of South Elgin; sister, Erin (Raymond) Rijkse and their children, Tyler and Ashley of North Pole, Alaska; maternal grandparents, George and Mary Loechner of Elgin; and many aunts, uncles, cousins, family and friends. He was preceded in death by his paternal grandparents, Stuart and Helen Bu! sse. Memorials may be made to Spinal Cord Injury Stem Cell Research or RIC, Rehabilitation Institute of Chicago. For information, 847-741-8800. Published in the Chicago Suburban Daily Herald from 1/3/2006 - 1/5/2006. and courier news 01 03 06 Sean Patrick Busse, 25, of South Elgin passed away December 31, 2005 at Provena St. Joseph Hospital, Elgin. He was born on March 31, 1980 in Rockford, IL. Sean lost a two year battle with a spinal cord injury sustained in an auto accident. He will be dearly missed. Survivors include his father, John (Jean) Busse of Elgin; his mother, Barbara Busse of South Elgin; his sister, Erin (Raymond) Rijkse and their children, Tyler and Ashley of North Pole, AK; his maternal grandparents, George and Mary Loechner of Elgin; and many aunts, uncles, cousins, family and friends. He was preceded in death by his paternal grandparents, Stuart and Helen Busse. Funeral Mass will be held on Friday, January 6, 2006 at 10:30 AM in the St. Patrick's Catholic Church, Crane Road, St. Charles, IL. Burial will be private in Mt. Hope Cemetery. Visitation will be held on Thursday in the Laird Funeral Home, Elgin from 4 to 8 PM and on Friday in the church from 9:30 AM until the mass. Memorials may be made to Spinal Cord Injury Stem Cell Research or RIC, Rehabilitation Institute of Chicago, IL.

til 01 26 06 http://www.legacy.com/DailyHerald/Guestbook.asp?Page=GuestBook&PersonID=16122161<http://www.legacy.com/DailyHerald/Guestbook.asp?Page=GuestBook&PersonID=16122161> Henry John "Hank" Hyde Jr. of Elk Grove Village Henry John "Hank" Hyde Jr., 55, died Saturday, Dec. 24, 2005, following a lengthy illness. Born Jan. 18, 1950, the first-born child of Henry J. Hyde and the late Jeanne Simpson-Hyde, Hank, as he was affectionately known to family and friends, grew up in Chicago's far northwest side neighborhoods of Sauganash and Edgebrook. He was a graduate of St. Mary of the Woods Catholic School, and later Loyola Academy in Wilmette. At Loyola, Hyde was a standout athlete, starring in both baseball and basketball. In 2003, he was inducted into Loyola Academy's Athletic Hall of Fame. Following his first year in college at Loyola University of New Orleans in 1969, Hyde was drafted and signed by Major League Baseball's Pittsburgh Pirates and assigned to the Niagara Falls Pirates of the minor league New York-Penn League. An outstanding pitcher, Hyde possessed a low 90s football and a knee-buckling curve to go along with a baffling knuckleba! ll. The following season he was sent to pitch for the Salem Rebels, Pittsburgh's Class A affiliate in the Carolina League, where he played alongside future Major League players Art Howe, Kent Tekulve, Frank Traveras and future Pirates All-Star Dave Parker. In 1973, Hyde was signed by the Atlanta Braves as a free agent and assigned to pitch for the Greenwood (S.C.) Braves of the SouthAtlantic League, where he spent parts of two seasons before suffering a career-ending arm injury. Hyde then returned to his native Chicago where he volunteered for many years as a youth basketball, baseball and football coach. At the time of his death, Hyde also served as a revenue agent with the Office of the Illinois Secretary of State. Mr. Hyde is survived by two children, Veronica, 20, and Daniel, 18; and his former wife, Gina. He is also survived by his father, U.S. Representative Henry J. Hyde of Wood Dale; sister, Laura of Chicago; brothers, Robert of Irving, Texas and Anthony of Elk Grov! e Village. Visitation will be held on Wednesday, Dec. 28, from 9:30 a. m. to 12 p.m. at the Geils Funeral Home, 260 W. Irving Park Road, Wood Dale. A Mass of Christian Burial will take place at 12:30 p.m. Wednesday, at St. Julian Eymard Roman Catholic Church, 601 Biesterfield Road, Elk Grove Village. Burial will be in All Saints Cemetery, Des Plaines. In lieu of flowers, memorial contributions may be made to the DuPage Convalescent Center Foundation, 400 N. County Farm Road, Wheaton, IL 60187, 630-784-4246. For information, 630-766-3232. Published in the Chicago Suburban Daily Herald on 12/26/2005. and sch review 01 05 06 Henry "Hank" John Hyde Jr., 55, of Elk Grove Village died Dec. 24 following a lengthy illness. Born Jan. 18, 1950, the first-born child of Henry J. Hyde and the late Jeanne Simpson-Hyde, "Hank," as he was affectionately known to family and friends, grew up in Chicago's far northwest side neighborhoods of Sauganash and Edgebrook. He was a graduate of St. Mary of the Woods Catholic School, and later Loyola Academy in Wilmette. At Loyola, Mr. Hyde was a standout athlete, starring on both baseball and basketball teams. In 2003, he was inducted into Loyola Academy's Athletic Hall of Fame. Following his first year in college at Loyola University of New Orleans in 1969, Hyde was drafted and signed by Major League Baseball's Pittsburgh Pirates and assigned to the Niagra Falls Pirates of the minor New York-Penn League. An outstanding pitcher, Hyde possessed a low 90s fastball and a knee-buckling curve to go along with a baffling knuckleball. The following season he was sent to pitch for the Salem Rebels, Pittsburgh's Class A affiliate in the Carolina League, where he played alongside future Major League players Art Howe, Kent Tekulve, Frank Taveras and future Pirates All-Star Dave Parker. In 1973, Mr. Hyde was signed by the Atlanta Braves as a free agent and assigned to pitch for the Greenwood, S.C., Braves of the South Atlantic League, where he spent parts of two seasons before suffering a career-ending arm injury. He then returned to his native Chicago where he volunteered for many years as a youth basketball, baseball and football coach. At the time of his death, Hyde served as a revenue agent with the office of the Illinois Secretary of State. Mr. Hyde is survived by two children, Veronica, 20, and Daniel, 18, and his former wife, Dale. He is also survived by his father, U.S. Rep. Henry J. Hyde of Wood Dale; a sister, Laura of Chicago; and two brothers, Robert of Irving, Texas, and Anthony of Elk Grove Village. A Christian burial Mass was Dec. 28 at St. Julian Eymard Roman Catholic Church, Elk Grove Village. Burial was in All Saints Cemetery in Des Plaines. Memorials may be made to the DuPage County Convalescent Center Foundation, 400 N. County Farm Road, Wheaton IL 60187.

there is an image on this obit, if interested, get it now. the guest book until 01 20 06 http://www.legacy.com/DailyHerald/Guestbook.asp?Page=GuestBook&PersonID=16154763<http://www.legacy.com/DailyHerald/Guestbook.asp?Page=GuestBook&PersonID=16154763> Mildred M. "Millie" Ruth of Huntley Funeral services for Mildred M. "Millie" Ruth, 80, will be held at 11 a.m. Wednesday, at the First Congregational Church, 11628 E. Main St., Huntley, with Dr. Walter I. Thyng officiating. Burial will be in McHenry County Memorial Park in Woodstock. Visitation will be from 2 to 8 p.m. Tuesday, and from 10 a.m. until the time of services Wednesday, at the church. Born Nov. 17, 1925, on the family farm in Coral Township, the daughter of William and Olga (nee Krause) Hartmann, she passed away Friday, Dec. 30, 2005, in her home. Millie was valedictorian of the 1943 graduating class of Huntley High School. She married Howard C. Ruth on Sept. 3, 1945, and they operated a dairy farm in Huntley. They sold peaches in the summer, Christmas trees in the winter, and eggs all year round. They purchased the Huntley Dairy Mart in the early 1960's, where they used homegrown beef to make their own burgers. Millie worked at Union Special for over 30 ye! ars, all the while assisting her husband with bookkeeping and secretarial duties for Grafton Township. Following her husband's sudden passing in 1977, Millie continued as secretary and treasurer throughout the 1980's until being elected supervisor in 1993. She oversaw the establishment of the Grafton Towhship Food Pantry and also served as the Executive Director of the Huntley Chamber of Commerce during Huntley's growth sprout. She also served for 26 years as a director of the First National Bank of Marengo. In addition to her community duties, she was a member of the First Congregational Church and the church's ladies organization, Celas, and also as a former deacon. She was also a member of the American Legion Auxiliary of Huntley. Surviving are her three children, Chuck (Helen) Ruth of Huntley, Bill (Mary Helen) Ruth of Woodstock and Penny (Russ) Warner of Huntley; six grandchildren, Brad (Sheila) Tharp, Stacy (Brent) Schroeder, Scott, Anthony, Eric and Emily Ruth; two s! tepgrandchildren, Jeff and Jamie Lidinsky; four great-grandchildren; a nd two sisters, Frances (Del) Borhart of Marengo and Gwynneth Abts of Genoa. She was preceded in death by her parents; two infant siblings; a brother, Henry Hartmann; a sister, Florence Schwab; and a grandson, Jason Tharp. In lieu of flowers, memorial contributions in her name may be directed to the Centegra Health Systems Foundation, 527 W. South St. Woodstock, IL 60098. Arrangements were made by the James A. O'Connor Funeral Home, Huntley, 847-669-5111. Published in the Chicago Suburban Daily Herald from 1/1/2006 - 1/3/2006. and courier news 01 02 06 Mildred M. "Millie" Ruth, 80, of Huntley passed away Friday, December 30, 2005 in her home. She was born November 17, 1925 on the family farm in Coral Township, the daughter of William and Olga (Krause) Hartmann. Millie was valedictorian of the 1943 graduating class of Huntley High School. She married Howard C. Ruth on September 3, 1945 and they operated a dairy farm in Huntley. They sold peaches in the summer, Christmas Trees in the winter and eggs all year round. They purchased the Huntley Dairy Mart in the early 1960's using homegrown beef to make their own burgers. Millie worked at Union Special for over 30 years all the while assisting her husband with bookkeeping and secretarial duties for Grafton Township. Following her husband's sudden passing in 1977, Millie continued as secretary and treasurer throughout the 1980's until being elected supervisor in 1993. She oversaw the establishment of the Grafton Township Food Pantry and also served as the Executive Director of the Huntley Chamber of Commerce during Huntley's growth spurt. She also served for 26 years as a director of the First National Bank of Marengo. Following her retirement in 2005, she continued to work as a volunteer for Centegra Health Systems in Woodstock. In addition to her community duties, she was a member of the First Congregational Church and the church's ladies organization, Celas, and also as a former Deacon. She was also a member of the American Legion Auxiliary of Huntley. Surviving are her three children; sons, Chuck (Helen) Ruth of Huntley and Bill (Mary Helen) Ruth of Woodstock; daughter, Penny (Russ) Warner of Huntley; six grandchildren, Brad (Sheila) Tharp, Stacy (Brent) Schroeder, Scott, Anthony, Eric and Emily Ruth; two step grandchildren, Jeff and Jami Lidinsky; four great grandchildren; and two sisters, Frances (Del) Borhart of Marengo and Gwynneth Abts of Genoa. She was preceded in death by her parents; her husband, Howard; two infant siblings; a brother, Henry Hartmann; a sister, Florence Schwab; and a grandson, Jason Tharp. Funeral Services will be held at 11 AM Wednesday, January 4, 2006 at the First Congregational Church, 11628 E. Main St., Huntley with Dr. Walter I. Thyng officiating. Burial will be in McHenry County Memorial Park in Woodstock. Visitation will be held from 2 to 8 PM Tuesday at the First Congregational Church and on Wednesday prior to services from 10 to 11 AM. In lieu of flowers, memorial contributions in her name may be directed to the Centegra Health Systems Foundation, 527 W. South St., Woodstock, IL, 60098. The James A. O'Connor Funeral of Huntley is in charge of arrangements. For information call 847-669-5111.

How is a cemetery relocated? BY PATRICK CORCORAN STAFF WRITER schaumburg review 01 05 2006 If the federal court allows Chicago to dig up and move the 1,300 graves at St. Johannes, how would it be done? "We're very, very careful," said Leiellen Atz, a Southern Illinois University-trained anthropologist and who manages cemetery relocation projects with Georgia-based Brockington Cultural Resources. "We try to be as respectful and thoughtful as possible because we are cognizant of the fact that these are human beings with family and friends." Her tools include old maps, ground penetrating radar, aerial photography, but Atz generally finds graves another way -- by feel. Since many graves are unmarked and others have gravestones that have disintegrated or broken a part, Atz and her co-workers first use a long probe fitted with t-shaped handle, to survey and map the excavation area. "Since the ground was dug and then refilled, it is generally quite a bit softer than the ground around it. Depending on how much traffic there has been in the area and how rocky or sandy the soil is, it is fairly easy to identify the primary shaft -- which has a large rectangular shape -- and even the secondary shaft -- which is a smaller rectangular shape that feels like a ledge. That's where the coffin is," she said. A backhoe is then used to clear the first two or three feet of soil covering each grave. The rest of the work is done by hand, Atz said. "What we see then is usually a nice, rectangular dark stain. That shows you the grave shaft. In most cases, we would excavate down from there using a trowel until I penetrate the coffin level. After that, we photograph the remains for our records and carefully remove what we can depending on how much of the skeletal remains are still left," she said. For the most delicate part of the job Atz employs an unusual tool -- one generally used to eating. "I use chopsticks. Bamboo is durable enough to dig with, but it's doesn't scratch the bones like metal would. They're also easy to find," she said. The remains are placed into a small, 12-inch-by-15-inch box. What does Atz find? Mostly dirt. "There's usually nothing left. Maybe a few teeth. In most cases, all we can tell is if the person buried there was an adult or a child and we can tell that based on the size of the coffin," she said. On some occasions, there are also personal items buried with the dead. "It's very surprising, but we don't find much except for an occasional clothing item, like a button. I found a pocket watch once, but, like I said, it's very rare. In some instances, we've found a small metal plaque that reads, 'At rest,' that was probably affixed to the coffin. A few times, we've found people buried with sheaves of wheat. I'm not really sure of the significance of that, but I think it may be a religious practice." Brockington Cultural Resources has not been contracted by the city to relocate St. Johannes. However, the company has been involved in numerous similar -- albeit smaller -- cemetery relocation projects in Georgia, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky among other states. On average, Atz oversees two to three projects a year. In her experience, Atz has not run into opposition from family members. In fact, in most cases, relatives are pleased to see that their ancestors are being relocated instead of buried under a road or other new construction, she said.

Dear Valentine, Larry and List, yes, Henry Schnadt with his wife Engel Marie are buried on St. Johns cemetery. My question referred to a gravestone in row # 9, which only bears the name "Schnadt". In the meantime I have noticed by sorting the monument-list of Elaine Lorinczi that the neighboring graves are from of 1881 (EXCEL-file available). Therefore I suspect that the grave "Schnadt" is also from that time. Karen Rowe recorded the church books of St.John. After this a son of Henry Schnadt, Carl Heinrich Konrad, aka: Charles, died on Sep 17,1881. I believe that he was buried there. In case I will ever come again to Schaumburg,IL, I'll give you a note. Thank you for your help. Best wishes, Joerg Schnadt -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: .... valentine53179 [mailto:valentine53179@hotmail.com] Gesendet: Freitag, 6. Januar 2006 19:08 An: IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L@rootsweb.com Betreff: Re: [ILckSCH] schnadt to look thru the many pages of st john would take a month... the records are very hard to read... have you looked at the death version listing that karen has... she has deaths? I think? but, the listing is not a direct read from the books... the original source of karens listing which were restatements, is not known. I did find the originals in my travels but there was no indicator as to the original author or what was used in its compilation... but YOU WERE IN SCHAUMBURG? and you did not let the list know!!!!! aw, for sure, when one travels far, they should let the list know... one never knows when arrangements can be made to make the search EASIER... perhaps NEXT TIME! this for ANYONE in the schaumburg List family!

to be clear... karen, tho she has a listing, did not record the books of st john but transcribed a typewriter written document that has no authorship to a computerized and sortable document. The original typed version, I have seen, is at the church. the listing itself was created by people unknown in a typed version. I have done a quick reference some time ago and there were instances where the typed document did not match entirely with the books and vs.... so, if you are finding inconsistencies, please consider reviewing the st john rodenburg records at the STDL where there is a full set of printed copies of the books... A quick reference of the record types is contained in each of the several books. I wish we had the chance to talk with the creators of the first typed document to know what they did in the process of creating it... there is no doubt in my mind that it was a multi step process... first an english transcribe to some Cards (perhaps) and then alphabetized and they typed from that... (as the typed sheet predated computers and tabulation equipment...) ----- Original Message ----- From: Jörg Schnadt<mailto:joerg.schnadt@online.de> To: IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 4:00 PM Subject: AW: [ILckSCH] Schnadt Dear Valentine, Larry and List, yes, Henry Schnadt with his wife Engel Marie are buried on St. Johns cemetery. My question referred to a gravestone in row # 9, which only bears the name "Schnadt". In the meantime I have noticed by sorting the monument-list of Elaine Lorinczi that the neighboring graves are from of 1881 (EXCEL-file available). Therefore I suspect that the grave "Schnadt" is also from that time. Karen Rowe recorded the church books of St.John. After this a son of Henry Schnadt, Carl Heinrich Konrad, aka: Charles, died on Sep 17,1881. I believe that he was buried there. In case I will ever come again to Schaumburg,IL, I'll give you a note. Thank you for your help. Best wishes, Joerg Schnadt -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: .... valentine53179 [mailto:valentine53179@hotmail.com] Gesendet: Freitag, 6. Januar 2006 19:08 An: IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L@rootsweb.com> Betreff: Re: [ILckSCH] schnadt to look thru the many pages of st john would take a month... the records are very hard to read... have you looked at the death version listing that karen has... she has deaths? I think? but, the listing is not a direct read from the books... the original source of karens listing which were restatements, is not known. I did find the originals in my travels but there was no indicator as to the original author or what was used in its compilation... but YOU WERE IN SCHAUMBURG? and you did not let the list know!!!!! aw, for sure, when one travels far, they should let the list know... one never knows when arrangements can be made to make the search EASIER... perhaps NEXT TIME! this for ANYONE in the schaumburg List family! ==== IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG Mailing List ==== _____________________________ To post: IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L@rootsweb.com> To Search: go to rootsweb.com, then to interactive search then enter in il-cook-schaumburg ARCHIVES: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/il-cook-schaumburg<http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/il-cook-schaumburg> . Unsubscribe at IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L-request@rootsweb.com> or -D If there is a system problem and you cannot get to valentine, go here: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/help.cgi<http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/help.cgi> We are a list2 list.... SEE ALSO: il-cook-elkgrove il-cook-palatine fpsah60194@hotmail.com<mailto:fpsah60194@hotmail.com> ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx<http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx>

I thought this site be of interewst to members of this group. http://www.lippe-auswanderer.de/htm/auswanderer-usa-eng.htm Barb

Larry... thank you, I did not have (Cord) Heinrich Schrage's connection to the Lindhorst families! I hope these family group sheets that I export from my database are formatted ok for this posting. Karen Rowe Family Group Sheet Husband: Heinrich Moritz Harmening Born: __ DEC 1788 in: Vornhagen #21, Schaumburg-Lippe, Germany 1 Baptized: 06 DEC 1788 in: Probsthagen, Schaumburg-Lippe, Germany 2 Died: AFT 1847 in: America 3 Buried: in: Father: Hermann Carl Harmening Mother: Catharina Maria Haevemeyer Schaumburger Auswanderer #749: Harmening, Vornhagen Nr. 21, Kolon, verh., mit Ehefrau u. 4 Kindern, nach Amerika, 6.4.1847. Wife: Catharina Sophia Leonore Mensching Married: 21 OCT 1824 in: Probsthagen, Schaumburg-Lippe, Germany 1 Born: __ ___ 1800 in: Hulshagen #5, Sch.-Lippe, Germany 4 Baptized: in: Died: AFT 1847 in: America 3 Buried: in: Father: Mother: F Child 1 Engel Sophia Caroline Harmening Born: 13 OCT 1825 in: Vornhagen #21, Schaumburg-Lippe, Germany 1 Baptized: in: Died: AFT 1847 in: America Buried: in: F Child 2 CAROLINE Charlotte Harmening Born: 11 DEC 1827 in: Vornhagen #21, Schaumburg-Lippe, Germany 1 Baptized: 16 DEC 1827 in: Probsthagen, Schaumburg-Lippe, Germany Died: 09 MAY 1919 in: Palatine, Cook Co., IL Buried: in: Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Spouse: Cord Heinrich HENRY Schrage Married: __ ___ 1847 in: 5 To America 1847. F Child 3 Anna Sophia Eleonore Harmening Born: 04 NOV 1830 in: Vornhagen #21, Schaumburg-Lippe, Germany 1 Baptized: in: Died: AFT 1847 in: America Buried: in: M Child 4 Heinrich Friedrich Wilhelm Harmening Born: 12 FEB 1835 in: Vornhagen #21, Schaumburg-Lippe, Germany 1 Baptized: in: Died: AFT 1847 in: America Buried: in: 1 Information from www.genealogy.net/gene/reg/NSAC/SLP/Probsthagen/OSB 2 Probsthagen, Schaumburg-Lippe, Germany church BAPTISM records. 3 Schaumburg Auswanderer 1820-1914, by Heinrich Rieckenberg, Rinteln, Germany. 4 Information from www.genealogy.net/gene/reg/NSAC/SLP/Probsthagen/OSB Habichhorst Residents by Kurt Hitzeman, 2005 5 Obituary Family Group Sheet Husband: Heinrich Wilhelm Schrage Born: __ MAR 1779 in: Lindhorst #54, SchaumburgLippe, Germany 1 Baptized: 21 MAR 1779 in: Lindhorst, Schaumburg-Lippe, Germany 2 Died: 24 DEC 1835 in: Lindhorst #54, SchaumburgLippe, Germany 3 Buried: 29 DEC 1835 in: Lindhorst, Schaumburg-Lippe, Germany Father: Heinrich Wilhelm Schrage Mother: Sophia Louise Wille Wife: Catharina Maria Soehle Married: 09 MAY 1813 in: Lindhorst, Schaumburg-Lippe, Germany 4 Born: 15 AUG 1790 in: Riepen #4, Schaumburg, Germany 5 Baptized: 19 AUG 1790 in: Godehardi Church of Beckedorf, Germany 6 Died: 17 NOV 1838 in: Lindhorst #54, SchaumburgLippe, Germany 3 Buried: 20 NOV 1838 in: Lindhorst, Schaumburg-Lippe, Germany Father: Johann CONRAD Soehle Mother: Catharina Maria Sophia Kastening F Child 1 Engel Maria Charlotte Schrage Born: 20 MAR 1817 in: Lindhorst #54, SchaumburgLippe, Germany 4 Baptized: 20 MAR 1817 in: Lindhorst, Schaumburg-Lippe, Germany 2 Died: 26 FEB 1877 in: Ludersfeld #2, Sch.-Lippe, Germany 3 Buried: 02 MAR 1877 in: Lindhorst, Schaumburg-Lippe, Germany Heinrich CHRISTOPH Hasemann Not Married (had child with) 7 Spouse: Toennies Gottlieb Wahlmann Married: 14 ___ 1847 in: Lindhorst, Schaumburg-Lippe, Germany 4 M Child 2 Cord Heinrich HENRY Schrage Born: 12 NOV 1819 in: Lindhorst #54, SchaumburgLippe, Germany 8 Baptized: 21 NOV 1819 in: Lindhorst, Schaumburg-Lippe, Germany 9 Died: 15 MAR 1905 in: Palatine, Cook Co., IL Buried: in: Spouse: CAROLINE Charlotte Harmening Married: __ ___ 1847 in: 10 Marriage not found in Probsthagen records. Schaumburg Auswanderer #781: Schrage, Lindhorst 54, stepson of Leibzuchter Wille of Lindhorst 54, Rademachergeselle, geb. ca. 1819, verh., with wife and 2 children (ages 4 and 7) to Amerika 9.4.1847. F Child 3 Catharina Maria Sophia Schrage Born: 13 AUG 1822 in: Lindhorst #54, SchaumburgLippe, Germany Baptized: 18 AUG 1822 in: Lindhorst, Schaumburg-Lippe, Germany Died: in: Buried: in: Baptism sponsors were Engel Maria Schrage the fathers sister and Ilse Maria Hintzen the childs mothers sisters daughter. F Child 4 Anna Sophia Charlotta Schrage Born: 28 JUL 1825 in: Lindhorst #54, SchaumburgLippe, Germany Baptized: 03 AUG 1825 in: Lindhorst, Schaumburg-Lippe, Germany 2 Died: 01 FEB 1828 in: Lindhorst #54, SchaumburgLippe, Germany 11 Buried: in: Lindhorst, Schaumburg-Lippe, Germany 1 Approximate birthdate calculated from age at death. 2 Lindhorst, Schaumburg-Lippe, Germany church BAPTISM records. 3 Lindhorst, Schaumburg-Lippe, Germany church BURIAL records. 4 Lindhorst, Schaumburg-Lippe, Germany church MARRIAGE records. 5 Godehardi Church, Beckedorf, Schaumburg, Germany Confirmation Records. 6 Godehardi Church, Beckedorf, Schaumburg, Germany Baptism Records. 7 Not Married based on illegitimacy of child from baptism record. 8 Information from Larry Nerge; Email: Inerge1@tampabay.rr.com www.familytreemaker.com/users/n/e/r/Larry-G-Nerge/ Schaumburg Auswanderer 1820-1914, by Heinrich Rieckenberg, Rinteln, Germany. 9 Lindhorst Ev. Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Germany Baptism records. 10 Obituary 11 Lindhorst, Schaumburg, Germany Families, by Kurt Hitzeman (2004) 1 Heinrich Schrage aka: Henry Schrage b: Nov 14, 1819 in Lendhorst, Riepen, Schaumburg, Germany Occupation: Farmer d: Mar 16, 1905 in Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL, Cert# 00013370 Burial: Mar 20, 1905 St. Peter's Lutheran Cemetery, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL . +Karoline Charlotte Harmening aka: Caroline Harmening Schrage b: Dec 11, 1827 in Schaumburg-Lippe, Germany m: 1847 d: May 09, 1919 in Markham, Cook Co., IL, Cert# 0032210 Burial: May 13, 1919 St. Peter's Lutheran Cemetery, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL

resubmitted IN case it did not hit the list... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Anne Powers <ampowers@worldnet.att.net> Date: Jan 7, 2006 12:25 AM Subject: {not a subscriber} Re: [ILckSCH] Schrage Portrait To: IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L@rootsweb.com I did try to identity the people by age but that's just a guess and I was hoping to find someone who could give them their true identity. There is also another woman in the picture and I would like to know who she is. ----- Original Message ----- From: ".... valentine53179" <valentine53179@hotmail.com> To: <IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 8:30 PM Subject: [ILckSCH] Schrage Portrait > anne, > you have this info: > Henry (Heinrich) Shrage b abt 1823 Schaumburg-Lippe Germany > d Mar 15 1905 Schaumburg IL IL > married abt 1847 > Caroline Harmening b Dec 11 1827 Schaumburg-Lippe Germany > d May 9 1919 > children > Friedrich b 1850 Schaumburg IL > Caroline b Oct 25 1851 Schaumburg IL > Sophia b Apr 1 1854 Schaumburg IL married > Johann Falke > d Dec 30 1945 IL > Mar 4 1877? > Mary b 1856 Schaumburg IL > William b 1859 Schaumburg IL > Anna Marie b Aug 6 1861 Schaumburg IL married Ernst > Schmaedeke > d Feb 13 1945 Markham IL July 1 > 1888 my (Grandmother) > Henry b 1863 Schaumbuirg IL > Louise b Nov 7 1868 Schaumburg IL married Fred > Hibbing > d Apr 14 1956 IL > Sept 12 1897 > Emma Augusta b Mar 28 1871 Schaumburg IL > > cant you tell just by AGES who is who? > > On 1/6/06, Anne Powers > <ampowers@worldnet.att.net<mailto:ampowers@worldnet.att.net>> wrote: > > I recently received a portrait of the Henry and Caroline Schrage > family of Schaumburg taken > > around 1875. Their children were Friedrich, Caroline, Sophia, Mary, > William, Anna Marie, > > Henry, Louise, and Emma and I would like to find out who is who in the > portrait. I am hoping > > there is someone on the list who could identity the people if I E > mailed them a copy of the > > picture. > > > > > > > ==== IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG Mailing List ==== > _____________________________ > To post: IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L@rootsweb.com > To Search: go to rootsweb.com, then to interactive search then enter in > il-cook-schaumburg > ARCHIVES: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/il-cook-schaumburg . > Unsubscribe at IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L-request@rootsweb.com or -D > If there is a system problem and you cannot get to valentine, go here: > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/help.cgi We are a list2 list.... > SEE ALSO: il-cook-elkgrove il-cook-palatine fpsah60194@hotmail.com > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >

This report adds more details to the Schrage family. I'd love to have a portrait. Descendants of Heinrich Schrage 1 Heinrich Schrage aka: Henry Schrage b: Nov 14, 1819 in Lendhorst, Riepen, Schaumburg, Germany Occupation: Farmer d: Mar 16, 1905 in Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL, Cert# 00013370 Burial: Mar 20, 1905 St. Peter's Lutheran Cemetery, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL . +Karoline Charlotte Harmening aka: Caroline Harmening Schrage b: Dec 11, 1827 in Schaumburg-Lippe, Germany m: 1847 d: May 09, 1919 in Markham, Cook Co., IL, Cert# 0032210 Burial: May 13, 1919 St. Peter's Lutheran Cemetery, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL ...... 2 Friedrich Schrage b: 1850 in Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Confirmation: Apr 09, 1865 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Occupation: Farmer d: Unknown ...... 2 Karolina Schrage aka: Carolina Schrage Gieseke b: Oct 25, 1851 in Palatine, Cook Co., IL Confirmation: Mar 25, 1866 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL d: Apr 10, 1892 in IL @ 4:50 PM Burial: Apr 14, 1892 St. Peter's Lutheran Cemetery, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL .......... +Friedrich Gieseke aka: Fritz Gieseke, Jr. b: Mar 10, 1850 in Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Christening: Apr 10, 1851 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL m: Jun 19, 1873 in St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL IL License #: 00010019 d: Feb 05, 1911 in Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL @ home Burial: Feb 08, 1911 St. Peter's Lutheran Cemetery, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL ...... 2 Sophie Schrage aka: Sophie Schrage Falke b: Apr 01, 1854 in Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Confirmation: Apr 05, 1868 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL d: Dec 30, 1945 in Bloomington Township, Cook Co., IL, Cert# 0045512 Burial: Jan 1946 .......... +Johann Wilhelm Falke aka: Wilhelm Falke b: Abt. 1851 m: Mar 04, 1877 in Will Co., IL IL License #: 0006829C d: Unknown ...... 2 Maria Schrage aka: Maria "Mary" Schrage Hibbing b: Feb 28, 1857 in Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Confirmation: Apr 03, 1871 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL d: Aug 24, 1942 in Palatine, Cook Co., IL, Cert# 0002601 Burial: Aug 1942 .......... +John Hibbing b: Abt. 1854 m: Jul 24, 1887 in Cook Co., IL IL License #: 00116220 d: Unknown ...... 2 Heinrich Wilhelm Schrage aka: William C. Schrage b: May 15, 1859 in Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Christening: Jun 05, 1859 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Confirmation: Apr 06, 1873 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Occupation: Farmer d: Apr 01, 1932 in Chicago, Cook Co., IL, Cert# 6009655 Burial: Apr 1932 .......... +Johanne Wilke aka: Hanna Wilke Schrage b: Aug 1863 in IL m: Sep 27, 1888 in St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL IL License #: 00130368 d: Feb 19, 1942 in Chicago, Cook Co., IL, Cert# 0005463 Burial: Feb 1942 ...... 2 Marie Sophie Anna Schrage aka: Anna Marie Schrage Schmaedeke b: Aug 06, 1861 in Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Christening: Sep 15, 1861 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Confirmation: Mar 25, 1877 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL d: Feb 13, 1945 in Bremen Township, Cook Co., IL, Cert# 0004636 Burial: Feb 17, 1945 Coopers Grove Cemetery .......... +Ernst Schmaedeke b: Nov 29, 1857 in IL m: Jul 01, 1888 d: Dec 03, 1924 in Bremen Township, Cook Co., IL Burial: Dec 1924 ...... 2 David Friedrich Heinrich Schrage aka: Heinrich "Henry" Schrage b: Jun 24, 1864 in Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Christening: Jul 10, 1864 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Confirmation: Apr 14, 1878 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL d: Dec 13, 1941 in Palatine, Cook Co., IL, Cert# 0003946 Burial: Dec 1941 ...... 2 Wilhelmine Louise Schrage aka: Louise Schrage Hibbing b: Nov 07, 1868 in Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Christening: Nov 24, 1868 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Confirmation: Mar 18, 1883 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL d: Apr 14, 1956 in IL Burial: Apr 1956 .......... +Friedrich Hibbing aka: Fred Hibbing b: Abt. 1871 m: Sep 12, 1897 in Cook Co., IL IL License #: 266846 d: Mar 14, 1949 in Cook Co., IL, Cert# 0009140 Burial: Mar 1949 ...... 2 Emma Auguste Schrage aka: Auguste Schrage b: Mar 28, 1871 in Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Christening: Apr 1885 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Confirmation: Mar 29, 1885 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL d: Unknown ----- Original Message ----- From: ".... valentine53179" <valentine53179@hotmail.com> To: <IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 12:30 AM Subject: [ILckSCH] Schrage Portrait > anne, > you have this info: > Henry (Heinrich) Shrage b abt 1823 Schaumburg-Lippe Germany > d Mar 15 1905 Schaumburg IL IL > married abt 1847 > Caroline Harmening b Dec 11 1827 Schaumburg-Lippe Germany > d May 9 1919 > children > Friedrich b 1850 Schaumburg IL > Caroline b Oct 25 1851 Schaumburg IL > Sophia b Apr 1 1854 Schaumburg IL married Johann Falke > d Dec 30 1945 IL Mar 4 1877? > Mary b 1856 Schaumburg IL > William b 1859 Schaumburg IL > Anna Marie b Aug 6 1861 Schaumburg IL married Ernst Schmaedeke > d Feb 13 1945 Markham IL July 1 1888 my (Grandmother) > Henry b 1863 Schaumbuirg IL > Louise b Nov 7 1868 Schaumburg IL married Fred Hibbing > d Apr 14 1956 IL Sept 12 1897 > Emma Augusta b Mar 28 1871 Schaumburg IL > > cant you tell just by AGES who is who? > > On 1/6/06, Anne Powers <ampowers@worldnet.att.net<mailto:ampowers@worldnet.att.net>> wrote: > > I recently received a portrait of the Henry and Caroline Schrage family of Schaumburg taken > > around 1875. Their children were Friedrich, Caroline, Sophia, Mary, William, Anna Marie, > > Henry, Louise, and Emma and I would like to find out who is who in the portrait. I am hoping > > there is someone on the list who could identity the people if I E mailed them a copy of the > > picture. > > > > > > > ==== IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG Mailing List ==== > _____________________________ > To post: IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L@rootsweb.com > To Search: go to rootsweb.com, then to interactive search then enter in il-cook-schaumburg > ARCHIVES: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/il-cook-schaumburg . > Unsubscribe at IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L-request@rootsweb.com or -D > If there is a system problem and you cannot get to valentine, go here: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/help.cgi We are a list2 list.... > SEE ALSO: il-cook-elkgrove il-cook-palatine fpsah60194@hotmail.com > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. 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