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    1. Re: [ILckSCH] Thies - Pfingsten in Schaumburg, IL
    2. LaVonne Presley

    3. Grace, I don't know what Parish the Pollworth family came from. I have seen so many spellings or misspellings in various records including the church. My Pollworth family settled on a farm along Salt Creek in Addison Township, DuPage County. They attended Zion Church and a few family members still belong there. Sorry that I can't give you more information. LaVonne ----- Original Message ----- From: "grace w gathman" <wallace26@juno.com> To: <IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 9:54 AM Subject: Re: [ILckSCH] Thies - Pfingsten in Schaumburg, IL > Hi Lavonne, Do you know if the Pollworth family is the same as the > Polwort family that lived in the Steimbke parish in Hannover Germany? I > have never been able to find a link. My husbands 2nd great grandmother > was Catherine Marie Polwort, born in Wenden. She was the daughter of Hans > Herman Polwort. Thanks so much. Grace > > > ==== IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG Mailing List ==== > _____________________________ > To post: IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L@rootsweb.com > To Search: go to rootsweb.com, then to interactive search then enter in il-cook-schaumburg > ARCHIVES: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/il-cook-schaumburg . > Unsubscribe at IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L-request@rootsweb.com or -D > If there is a system problem and you cannot get to valentine, go here: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/help.cgi We are a list2 list.... > SEE ALSO: il-cook-elkgrove il-cook-palatine fpsah60194@hotmail.com > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

    01/16/2006 11:10:12
    1. Fred Thies - Sophia Thies Pfingsten
    2. LaVonne Presley

    3. Jill... Maria was my ggrandmother. You do have the correct birth and death dates. I don't have a copy of the death certificate, I had the dates that my father had written down and he was very accurate. If you would like to share, I would love it. L.prestley@comcast.net Larry... I will try to fill in a couple of dates for you. Jill had given the correct birth (Jan. 9, 1835)date and death ( Nov. 14, 1927) date for Maria Pollworth Thies. Her parents had a farm in Addison Township, DuPage County (Putten Hill) and attended Zion Church in Bensenville. Her parents came from the same village in Hannover as Fred Thies. Fred (Fritz) Thies was born Nov. 13, 1829 in Hannover. He came to Chicago in about 1847 and worked as a wheelwright for Joseph Schuettler, Chicago's "Wagon King." He bought lots in Chicago, both downtown and on the near south side. He later sold or traded these for farm land in Schaumburg Township between Rohlwing and Meacham Roads. WGN transmitter is on what was the east 120 acres of his land. He was purchasing this land no later than 1860. He died March 6, 1907 and is buried at St. Peter, Sch. Children of Fred and Maria (Mary): Fred Thies bd. 10/31/1853 date given by granddaughter. Died March 30, 1931. Might be buried in Park Ridge. He was born in Chicago. Henry Thies bd. Feb.21, 1856 in Chicago. .....+Sophie Fedderke Thies was born in Addison Township, DuPage County on the family farm. August Thies - those are the correct birth and confirmation dates. August moved around and I don't know where he settled. He is my missing person. I would like to know where you got the death date. There were several August Thies men in the Schaumburg area at that time. One actually lived on the farm south of the Nerge farm on Meacham Road. They were not related to My August. I know that he is not bured at St. Peter. I still have hopes of finding him. I hope that your information will be the missing link. Sophia Thies Pfingsten was married on April 2, 1880 at St. Peters, Sch. IL Herman Thies I have is date of death as 1908, but that might be wrong. I got the info from Lucile Nerge a few years ago. I did not double check with St. Peters books. I have to do that. ......+Regina Fedderke Thies was born in Addison Township, DuPage County, IL I hope this helps to fill some holes. And I would appreciate any documentation that you have for your dates Thank you. LaVonne

    01/16/2006 11:06:24
    1. Re: [ILckSCH] Engelking-Thies at Palatine and Northfield, IL
    2. .... valentine53179

    3. I am thinking that the palatine historical society JUST did something with Immanuel Lutheran... I will ask on the Palatine list and will report... ----- Original Message ----- From: ChristieR57@aol.com<mailto:ChristieR57@aol.com> To: IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 5:20 PM Subject: Re: [ILckSCH] Engelking-Thies at Palatine and Northfield, IL Karen (and all), I don't suppose you happen to know where the burial records for Immanuel Lutheran (or any other Palatine Lutheran churches) might be? I have looked in the Family History Library catalog and there aren't any there, and I will check the Schaumburg library catalog. If they are actually at the church I could certainly get there. I will also look into the Civil War records. I have done work with Civil War pension records, but there's no evidence his widow sought a pension, probably because she remarried. One correction on the children: It was Caroline who married John George Vehe, not Maria. I suppose I should also try to find probate records for Conrad Thies/Hanne Schermer. That might determine whether the Conrad Thies family in Iowa is the son of this family... Christie ==== IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG Mailing List ==== _____________________________ To post: IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L@rootsweb.com> To Search: go to rootsweb.com, then to interactive search then enter in il-cook-schaumburg ARCHIVES: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/il-cook-schaumburg<http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/il-cook-schaumburg> . Unsubscribe at IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L-request@rootsweb.com> or -D If there is a system problem and you cannot get to valentine, go here: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/help.cgi<http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/help.cgi> We are a list2 list.... SEE ALSO: il-cook-elkgrove il-cook-palatine fpsah60194@hotmail.com<mailto:fpsah60194@hotmail.com> ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx<http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx>

    01/16/2006 10:22:20
    1. Re: [ILckSCH] Thies - 1870 census

    3. Christie, The 1870 census that you were talking about in Palatine was Fred and Dora Goebbert Thies. They were buried in Salem Cemetery. The Henry and Sophia Thies that were living with them, Henry was my ggg grandma's brother. His wife was Sophia Hachmeister Thies My ggg grandma was Wilhelmina Thies Biermann. Jill

    01/16/2006 09:30:19
    1. Re: [ILckSCH] Thies - Pfingsten in Schaumburg, IL

    3. LaVonne, I think I have your great grandma's death cert. Mary Pollworth Thies born Jan. 9, 1835 and died Nov. 14, 1927. The informant was Sophia Pfingsten. Was she your great grandma? Jill

    01/16/2006 09:14:38
    1. Engelking-Thies at Palatine and Northfield, IL
    2. Karen S. Rowe

    3. Christie, We need someone to look at the burial records at the church at Palatine?, for Johann Otto Engelking died 20 NOV 1869 to see if there is a "place" in Germany listed. You say he is buried at the Immanuel Lutheran Cemetery at Palatine? Another good source is his Civil War records! It's been a while since I have done that type of research but years ago I found lots of very interesting documention for an ancestor of mine who was in an Illinois Infantry. Information we put together previously: Children of Johann Otto Engelking and Sophia Alvine Friedericke Thies. Is this correct?: 1. Engel Maria Friederike Engelking born 30 JUL 1866 died 31 JUL 1866 born at Elk Grove; married John Georg Vehe 2. Caroline Naomi Marie Engelking born 17 APR 1868 baptised 10 MAY 1868 at St. Peter Arlington Heights, sponsors Conrad Thies and Heinrich Senne. 3. Heinrich Otto Engelking born 08 FEB 1869 baptised 26 FEB 1869 at Immanuel Lutheran, Palatine, sponsors Conrad Thiess and Heinrich Engelking Sophia Alvine Friedericke Thies who married Johann Otto Engelking was born 25 DEC 1845 (St. Peter Lutheran Church, Northfield, Cook Co., IL Family Register. She was the daughter of Johann Conrad Thies born 27 AUG 1800 at Apelern #3 and his 2nd wife Hanne Friederike Charlotte Schermer born 16 FEB 1813 at Altenhagen (To America 1850 per Schaumburger Auswanderer book). His first wife was Anna Maria Elisabeth Foeler from Schachten?, Germany married 03 OCT 1830 at Apelern. Burial for immigrant Johann Conrad Thies and Hanne Schermer not found. Thies-Foeler had a child who immigrated: Carl CHARLES Conrad August Thies born 30 MAR 1841 at Apelern. His wife was Elisabeth (Unknown). They had several children in IL to 1879 but we do not know where they ended up (Iowa?). Thies-Schermer 1. Sophia Alvine Friedericke Thies born 25 DEC 1845 born Apelern married J. O. Engelking (above) 2. Sophia Caroline Dorothea Thies born 29 SEP 1848 married Hermann Heine 3. Maria Anna Thies born 27 NOV 1850 4. Carl Friedrich Conrad Thies born 13 AMR 1853 married Mary Pfingsten (born 1858) 5. Louise Justine Doris Thies 13 MAR 1853 - 14 SEP 1853 6. Sophia Thies born 16 SEP 1857 (children 2-6 baptised at Northfield, IL). Karen Rowe >Jill, > >My husband's line includes Thies and Engelking, which combined when Johann >Otto Engelking (b 6 Jan 1836 Germany) married Sophia Alvine Fredericke Thies (b >25 Dec 1845 Apelern, Germany). Otto served in the Civil War, then they married >12 Mar 1865, recorded in the St. Peter's Northfield church records. Their >children were: > >Maria Fredericka Engelking, b 30 July 1866, d 31 July 1866 >Caroline Naomi Marie Engelking, b 17 Apr 1868, d 25 Dec 1935 >Heinrich Otto Engelking, b 8 Feb 1869, d ? > >Otto died in 1869 and his wife remarried in 1872 to Charles Danielsen and >then lived in Palatine for the rest of her life, where they had several more >children. Caroline is my husband's great-grandmother. I now need to >read all these >other e-mails to see if this Heinrich Otto Engelking shows up in one of the >flurry that I unleashed yesterday on the listserve! > >I haven't been able to find Johann Otto Engelking's parents yet. > >Christie > > >

    01/16/2006 06:40:49
    1. 1870 Census: Palatine Twp., Cook Co., IL Engelking and Thies Families
    2. Karen S. Rowe

    3. Hi Christie, Thanks for the 1870 Palatine Twp., Cook Co., IL Census page. I looked and looked but I could not match up anything of the Thies families that are listed. The closest I find is the one family you listed below, with the eldest Henry Thies age 63... From the Apelern churchbooks there is a Johann Heinrich Christoph Thies born 27 JAN 1880, baptised 31 JAN 1808 at Apelern #3, Germany, first wife Caroline Wilhelmine Wehmhoefer married at Apelern 22 APR 1832. She died before 1847 and he remarried in 1847 at Apelern to Engel Dorothea Justine Eleonore Laging born 03 OCT 1824, baptized 10 OCT 1824 at Apelern #41. The Schaumburger Auswanderer book #1052 lists this: Thies, Joh. Heinrich Christoph, Apelern, Ackersmann, geb. 27.1.1808 in Apelern, verh., mit Ehefrau Engel Dorothea Eleonore geb. Laging, geb. 3.10.1824 in Apelern to Amerika 1850 (the information that they immigrated was noted in their 1847 Apelern marriage record.) I do not have any children listed for this family, nor do I know where they settled in America. By the way, list, other than the Fred and Dora Thies family listed below there are other Thies (and Engelking) families on this page. I have included the information below. Karen Rowe Engelking, Hy age 38 Hessian ", Maria age 32 HEssian ", Martha age 6 IL ", Emma age 4 IL ", Henry age 2 IL Thies, Henry age 38 Hannover ", Mina age 36 Hannover ", August age 13 IL ", Henry age 11 IL ", Sophia age 9 IL ", Emma age 7 IL ", Louise age 5 IL ", Mary age 1 IL Thies, Wm age 34 Hannover ", Dora age 32 Hannover ", Mary age 7 IL ", Willy age 5 IL ", John age 3 IL ----- Page 25 of the Palatine 1870 census includes three Thies families and one Engelking family. There is a two-year-old Fred Thies in this household: Fred Thies, 36, farmer, born Hannover Dora Thies, 29, born Hannover Sophia Thies, 8, born IL Louisa Thies, 6, born IL Henry Thies, 4, born IL Fred Thies, 2, born IL Henry Thies, 63, born Hannover Sophia Thies, 59, born Hannover I'll send you the image. Christie Robinson

    01/16/2006 06:08:46
    1. Re: [ILckSCH] Thies - Engelking to Bremer Co., IA

    3. Page 25 of the Palatine 1870 census includes three Thies families and one Engelking family. There is a two-year-old Fred Thies in this household: Fred Thies, 36, farmer, born Hannover Dora Thies, 29, born Hannover Sophia Thies, 8, born IL Louisa Thies, 6, born IL Henry Thies, 4, born IL Fred Thies, 2, born IL Henry Thies, 63, born Hannover Sophia Thies, 59, born Hannover I'll send you the image. Christie Robinson

    01/16/2006 03:43:33
    1. Re: [ILckSCH] theis thIEs and thieSS

    3. And to add to the possible spelling variations, I found Conrad Thies in the 1850 census in Northfield indexed as "Tace" and, believe it or not, as "Zan." If I hadn't already known he should be found there, I would never have found him under "Zan"! Christie Robinson

    01/16/2006 03:05:11
    1. Re: [ILckSCH] Thies - Pfingsten in Schaumburg, IL
    2. grace w gathman

    3. Hi Lavonne, Do you know if the Pollworth family is the same as the Polwort family that lived in the Steimbke parish in Hannover Germany? I have never been able to find a link. My husbands 2nd great grandmother was Catherine Marie Polwort, born in Wenden. She was the daughter of Hans Herman Polwort. Thanks so much. Grace

    01/16/2006 02:54:18
    1. Fwd: [ILckEG] Frederick Thies in 1860
    2. .... valentine53179

    3. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: ChristieR57@aol.com <ChristieR57@aol.com> Date: Jan 16, 2006 9:25 AM Subject: Re: [ILckEG] Frederick Thies in 1860 To: IL-COOK-ELKGROVE-L@rootsweb.com Jill, My husband's line includes Thies and Engelking, which combined when Johann Otto Engelking (b 6 Jan 1836 Germany) married Sophia Alvine Fredericke Thies (b 25 Dec 1845 Apelern, Germany). Otto served in the Civil War, then they married 12 Mar 1865, recorded in the St. Peter's Northfield church records. Their children were: Maria Fredericka Engelking, b 30 July 1866, d 31 July 1866 Caroline Naomi Marie Engelking, b 17 Apr 1868, d 25 Dec 1935 Heinrich Otto Engelking, b 8 Feb 1869, d ? Otto died in 1869 and his wife remarried in 1872 to Charles Danielsen and then lived in Palatine for the rest of her life, where they had several more children. Caroline is my husband's great-grandmother. I now need to read all these other e-mails to see if this Heinrich Otto Engelking shows up in one of the flurry that I unleashed yesterday on the listserve! I haven't been able to find Johann Otto Engelking's parents yet. Christie ==== IL-COOK-ELKGROVE Mailing List ==== To post: IL-COOK-elkGROVE-L@rootsweb.com To Search: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl AND THEN you must enter in il-cook-elkGROVE ARCHIVES: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/il-cook-elkGROVE Unsubscribe at IL-COOK-elkGROVE-L-request@rootsweb.com or -D If there is a system problem and you cannot get to valentine, or fpsah60194@hotmail.com go here....http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/help.cgi We are a list2 list.... SEE ALSO: il-cook-elkgrove il-cook-schaumburg fpsah60194@hotmail.com ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

    01/16/2006 02:42:18
    1. Re: [ILckSCH] Thies - Pfingsten in Schaumburg, IL
    2. Larry Nerge

    3. LaVonne, Thanks for your input. I've made some corrections and pasted below is what I have. Would apprciate any other updates you could share (especially for Fred and your great-grandparents). Larry Nerge Descendants of Fredrick Thies 1 Fredrick Thies aka: Fred "Fritz" Thies b: Abt. 1826 in Hannover, Germany Occupation: Farmer d: Bef. 1910 . +Maria Pollworth aka: Mary Pollworth Thies b: Abt. 1832 in Hannover, Germany m: Abt. 1853 d: Aft. 1910 in IL ........ 2 Fred Thies b: Abt. 1854 in IL d: Aft. 1860 ........ 2 Heinrich Thies aka: Henry Thies b: Feb 21, 1856 in Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL d: Jun 16, 1901 in IL @ 10 AM of heart attack Burial: Jun 19, 1901 St. Peter's Lutheran Cemetery, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL ............ +Sophie Fedderke aka: Sophie Fedderke Thies b: Aug 09, 1865 in Elk Grove Township, Cook Co., IL m: Jul 09, 1891 in St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL IL License #: 00169543 d: Apr 30, 1947 in Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL of old age, Cert# 0015485 Burial: May 03, 1947 St. Peter's Lutheran Cemetery, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL ........ 2 August Thies b: Aug 15, 1857 in IL Confirmation: Apr 06, 1873 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL d: Feb 28, 1927 in Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL, Cert# 0160581 Burial: Mar 1927 ............ +Marie Sophie Justine Kastning aka: Maria Kastning Thies b: Sep 18, 1863 in Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Christening: Oct 11, 1863 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Confirmation: Mar 25, 1877 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL m: Sep 02, 1886 in St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL d: Apr 28, 1911 ........ 2 Sophia Thies aka: Sophia Thies Pfingsten b: Dec 08, 1858 in Addison Township (Putten Hill), DuPage Co., IL d: Apr 05, 1947 in Palatine, Cook Co., IL @ Catherine Memorial Hospital of old age, Cert# 0015485 Burial: Apr 08, 1947 St. Peter's Lutheran Cemetery, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL ............ +Heinrich Friedrich Wilhelm Pfingsten aka: William Pfingsten b: Oct 31, 1861 in Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Christening: Nov 15, 1861 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Confirmation: Apr 09, 1876 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL m: Apr 02, 1880 in St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Occupation: farmer d: Oct 18, 1919 in Bartlett, Cook Co., IL of heart stroke Burial: Oct 22, 1919 St. Peters Lutheran Cemetry, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL ........ 2 Friedrich Louis Hermann Thies aka: Herman Thies b: Nov 21, 1864 in IL Confirmation: Apr 06, 1879 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Occupation: Farmer d: Mar 23, 1909 in Chicago, Cook Co., IL of pneumonia, Cert# 00018610 Burial: Mar 26, 1909 St. Peter's Lutheran Cemetery, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL ............ +Regina Fedderke aka: Regina Fedderke Thies b: Dec 24, 1867 in Elk Grove Township, Cook Co., IL m: Mar 24, 1892 in St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL IL License #: 00180816 d: Jun 18, 1946 in Mount Prospect Village, Cook Co., IL of old age and heart attack, Cert# 0022351 Burial: Jun 21, 1946 St. Peter's Lutheran Cemetery, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL ----- Original Message ----- From: "LaVonne Presley" <l.prestley@comcast.net> To: <IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [ILckSCH] Thies - Pfingsten in Schaumburg, IL > Fred and Mary (Maria Pollworth) were my great grandparents. They had four > sons and one daughter. The sons were Fred, Henry, August, and Herman. The > only daughter was Sophia. She was born in Addison Township (Putten Hill) on > Dec. 8, 1858. She married William (Wilheim) Pfingsten on April 2, 1880 at > St. Peters in Schaumburg. When her brother Henry (my grandfather) died of a > heart attack in 1901, William Pfingsten took care of the money matters and > the estate for my Grandmother (Sophie Fedderke Thies) as she was widowed > with 5 children (ages 1-9). Sophia's brother August Thies came to run the > farm for the family until Henry and Sophie's sons (Henry and William) were > old enough to farm on their own. Fred and Mary lived in a second house on > the farm that Henry and Sophie had, so Fred could advise his grandsons as > they took over the farming operation. There is a picture of the family on > Hyperion of the Schaumburg Township Library under Local History. Sophia and > William Pfingsten took in my great-grandmother Mary (Maria Pollworth) when > she was too old and frail to live by herself. Sophia Pfingsten died on > April 5, 1947 at Catherine Hospital in Palatine, IL. She is bured at St. > Peters as are two of her brothers (Henry and Herman). > > This can also be verified in the Dear Cousin 2000 book, Volume 2, page 478. > > Thank you for asking for my credentials and information. I appreciate > getting the facts correct for all future reference. > LaVonne Thies Presley > l.prestley@comcast.net > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Karen S. Rowe" <karen@karensgen.com> > To: <IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 5:25 PM > Subject: [ILckSCH] Thies - Pfingsten in Schaumburg, IL > > > > >From the St. Peter Schaumburg, IL church records Sophia Wilhelmine > > Karoline Thies was born 24 OCT 1858, baptised 27 OCT 1858, daughter of > > Otto and Sophia Thies... I have that she was born at Putten Hill, DuPage > > Co., IL... sponsors were Wilhelmine Bottermann and Karoline Wenthe. (My > > sources noted for this family were Larry Nerge, Family Tree Maker CD > > V-13, Tree 1709 T. Schumacher, researcher J. Malwitz and St. Peter > > Schaumburg, IL baptism records.) I am missing page 51 of the St. Peter > > baptisms to verify, Larry Nerge may have it. > > > > Sometimes names were noted differently in different sources ( Friedrich > > Otto Thies? or Maria [Mary] Sophia Pollworth?). Maybe LaVonne could > > give us her source? I am grateful for any corrections. > > > > Karen Rowe > > > > .... valentine53179 wrote: > > > > >karen > > >where did you get the statement regarding her parents? > > >specifically > > > > > >On 1/15/06, LaVonne Presley <l.prestley@comcast.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > >>Sophia Thies who married William Pfingsten was the daughter of Fredrick > and > > >>Mary (Pollworth) Thies. Her parents were NOT Otto and Sophia. > > >>LaVonne Thies Presley > > >>----- Original Message ----- > > >>From: "Karen S. Rowe" <karen@karensgen.com> > > >>To: <IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L@rootsweb.com> > > >>Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 1:24 PM > > >>Subject: [ILckSCH] Thies - Pfingsten in Schaumburg, IL > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>>There is a Sophia Wilhelmine Caroline Thies (27 OCT 1858 - 05 APR 1947) > > >>> > > >>> > > >>who married 02 ARP 1880 St. Peter Lutheran, Schaumburg, IL to Wilhelm > > >>Pfingsten (1861-1919). Her parents were Otto and Sophia Thies. > > >> > > >> > > >>>Who are Otto and Sophia Thies? > > >>> > > >>>Karen Rowe > > >>> > > > > > > ==== IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG Mailing List ==== > > _____________________________ > > To post: IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L@rootsweb.com > > To Search: go to rootsweb.com, then to interactive search then enter in > il-cook-schaumburg > > ARCHIVES: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/il-cook-schaumburg . > > Unsubscribe at IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L-request@rootsweb.com or -D > > If there is a system problem and you cannot get to valentine, go here: > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/help.cgi We are a list2 list.... > > SEE ALSO: il-cook-elkgrove il-cook-palatine fpsah60194@hotmail.com > > > > ============================== > > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. 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    01/15/2006 02:14:08
    1. Re: [ILckSCH] Thies - Pfingsten in Schaumburg, IL
    2. Larry Nerge

    3. Based on LaVonne's email, I have combined two different Sophia Thies and will need to make some corrections. Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Nerge" <lnerge1@tampabay.rr.com> To: <IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 8:21 PM Subject: Re: [ILckSCH] Thies - Pfingsten in Schaumburg, IL > I have a few corrections. I looked again at the church records and the > baptism record (page 51, book 1, item 23) definitely shows her birth as Oct > 27, 1856 in Michigan, even though her baptism date was oct 24, 1858. Again, > her confimation record (page 203, book 1, item 4 for girls) indicates a > birth date of Oct 27, 1856. Using the Michigan link, I found a 1860 Census > entry in Centreville, Leelanau, MI for the Otto & Sophia Thies family. > Larry Nerge > > Descendants of Otto Thies > > > > 1 Otto Thies b: Abt. 1830 in Hannover, Germany Occupation: Farmer & Miller > d: Unknown > > . +Sophia Unknown aka: Sophia Unknown Thies b: Abt. 1831 in Germany m: Abt. > 1851 d: Unknown > > ........ 2 Henry Thies b: Abt. 1852 in IL d: Unknown > > ........ 2 William Thies b: Abt. 1854 in IL d: Unknown > > ........ 2 Sophia Wilhelmine Karoline Thies aka: Sophie Thies Pfingsten b: > Oct 27, 1856 in MI Christening: Oct 24, 1858 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, > Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Confirmation: Mar 24, 1872 St. Peter's Lutheran > Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL d: Apr 05, 1947 in Palatine, Cook Co., IL @ > Catherine Memorial Hospital of old age, Cert# 0015485 Burial: Apr 08, 1947 > St. Peter's Lutheran Cemetery, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL > > ............ +Heinrich Friedrich Wilhelm Pfingsten aka: William Pfingsten b: > Oct 31, 1861 in Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Christening: Nov 15, 1861 St. > Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Confirmation: Apr 09, 1876 > St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL m: Apr 02, 1880 in St. > Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Occupation: farmer d: Oct > 18, 1919 in Bartlett, Cook Co., IL of heart stroke Burial: Oct 22, 1919 St. > Peters Lutheran Cemetry, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL > > .................. 3 Heinrich Friedrich Wilhelm Christoph Pfingsten aka: > Fred W. Pfingsten b: Aug 04, 1880 in Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Christening: > Aug 15, 1880 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL > Occupation: Farmer d: Nov 28, 1963 in Richfield, McHenry Co., IL @ son > Emil's home of coronary thrombosis Burial: Dec 01, 1963 St. Peters Lutheran > Cemetry, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL > > ...................... +Anna Sophie Wilhelmine Caroline Emma Rohlwing aka: > Emma Rohlwing Pfingsten b: Mar 06, 1882 in Elk Grove Village, Cook Co., IL > Christening: Apr 02, 1882 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., > IL Confirmation: Apr 07, 1895 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook > Co., IL m: Sep 03, 1903 in St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook > Co., IL d: Mar 24, 1967 in Elgin, Kane Co., IL @ Simpson Nursing House of > age Burial: Mar 28, 1967 St. Peter's Lutheran Cemetery, Schaumburg, Cook > Co., IL > > .................. 3 Sophie Marie Engel Wilhelmine Mathilde Pfingsten aka: > Mathilde "Tillie" Pfingsten Wilkening Manning b: Mar 06, 1882 in Schaumburg, > Cook Co., IL Christening: Mar 12, 1882 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, > Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Confirmation: Apr 07, 1895 St. Peter's Lutheran > Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Occupation: Fur finisher of ladies fur > coats d: May 15, 1950 in Chicago, Cook Co., IL @ home Burial: May 18, 1950 > Elm Lawn Cemetery, Elmhurst, DuPage Co., IL > > ...................... +Conrad Friedrich Wilhelm Wilkening aka: William Carl > Wilkening b: Jan 03, 1882 in Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Christening: Jan 29, > 1882 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Confirmation: Mar > 29, 1896 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL m: Jun 08, > 1902 in St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Occupation: > Operated water-powered grist mill & electric light plant at Cherry Valley, > IL d: Jun 16, 1929 in Chicago, Cook Co., IL @ Norwgian-American Hospital, > Cert# 6018706 Burial: Jun 20, 1929 Elm Lawn Cemetery, Elmhurst, DuPage Co., > IL > > .................. *2nd Husband of Sophie Marie Engel Wilhelmine Mathilde > Pfingsten: > > ...................... +Harry Manning b: Jul 01, 1880 in Travoli, IL m: Jan > 16, 1937 in Chicago, Cook Co., IL d: Oct 29, 1980 in Mountain Home, AR @ > Good Samaitan Village Burial: Oct 31, 1980 Baxter Memorial Gardens, Mountain > Home, AR > > .................. 3 Alwine Sophi Caroline Louise Christine Pfingsten aka: > Alvina Pfingsten Wilkening b: Sep 22, 1883 in Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL > Christening: Oct 07, 1883 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., > IL Confirmation: Apr 11, 1897 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook > Co., IL Occupation: Owned ladies hat shop in Chicago, IL d: Aug 13, 1939 in > Logansport, Cass Co., IN @ St. Joseph Hospital Burial: Aug 15, 1939 Elm Lawn > Cemetery, Elmhurst, DuPage Co., IL > > ...................... +August Louis Hermann Wilkening aka: Herman Louis > Wilkening b: Oct 22, 1883 in Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Christening: Nov 11, > 1883 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Confirmation: Apr > 11, 1897 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL m: Apr 03, > 1904 in St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL d: Dec 14, > 1939 in Elgin, Kane Co., IL @ Elgin State Hospital, Cert# 0000875 Burial: > Dec 16, 1939 Bluff City Cemetery, Elgin, Kane Co., IL > > .................. 3 Sophia Wilhelmine Karoline Emma Pfingsten aka: Emma > Pfingsten Fenz Gieseke b: Dec 22, 1885 in Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL > Christening: Jan 16, 1886 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., > IL Confirmation: Mar 26, 1899 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook > Co., IL d: Jul 19, 1961 in Arlington Heights, Cook Co., IL @ NW Community > Hospital Burial: Jul 22, 1961 Elm Lawn Cemetery, Elmhurst, DuPage Co., IL > > ...................... +Johann Wilhelm Hermann Fenz aka: Herman W. Fenz b: > Jan 31, 1884 in Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Christening: Feb 02, 1884 St. > Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Confirmation: Apr 03, 1898 > St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL m: Apr 22, 1906 in St. > Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Occupation: Retail Dealer > in Grocery & Day Goods d: Jan 12, 1944 in Chicago, Cook Co., IL, Cert# > 0001363 Burial: Jan 15, 1944 Elm Lawn Cemetery, Elmhurst, DuPage Co., IL > > .................. *2nd Husband of Sophia Wilhelmine Karoline Emma > Pfingsten: > > ...................... +Johann Friedrich Wilhelm Gieseke aka: Fred William > Gieseke, Sr. b: Mar 16, 1883 in Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Christening: Apr > 01, 1883 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Confirmation: > Mar 29, 1896 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL m: Jul > 08, 1945 in Arlington Heights, Cook Co., IL d: Nov 04, 1947 in Arlington > Heights, Cook Co., IL @ home Burial: Nov 08, 1947 Ridgewood Cemetery, Des > Plaines, Cook Co., IL > > .................. 3 Anna Louisa Maria Martha Pfingsten aka: Maria Pfingsten > b: Mar 07, 1888 in Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL @ home Christening: Apr 01, 1888 > St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL d: Jun 04, 1888 in > Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL of pneumonia @ 9 AM Burial: Jun 06, 1888 St. > Peter's Lutheran Cemetery, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL > > .................. 3 Heinrich Wilhelm August Emil Pfingsten aka: Emil > Pfingsten b: Feb 27, 1889 in Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL @ home Christening: > Mar 31, 1889 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL d: Apr > 09, 1889 in Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL of pneumonia Burial: Apr 12, 1889 St. > Peter's Lutheran Cemetery, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL > > ........ 2 Johan Hermann Thies b: Apr 24, 1859 in MI Christening: Aug 05, > 1860 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL d: Unknown > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Karen S. Rowe" <karen@karensgen.com> > To: <IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 6:25 PM > Subject: [ILckSCH] Thies - Pfingsten in Schaumburg, IL > > > > >From the St. Peter Schaumburg, IL church records Sophia Wilhelmine > > Karoline Thies was born 24 OCT 1858, baptised 27 OCT 1858, daughter of > > Otto and Sophia Thies... I have that she was born at Putten Hill, DuPage > > Co., IL... sponsors were Wilhelmine Bottermann and Karoline Wenthe. (My > > sources noted for this family were Larry Nerge, Family Tree Maker CD > > V-13, Tree 1709 T. Schumacher, researcher J. Malwitz and St. Peter > > Schaumburg, IL baptism records.) I am missing page 51 of the St. Peter > > baptisms to verify, Larry Nerge may have it. > > > > Sometimes names were noted differently in different sources ( Friedrich > > Otto Thies? or Maria [Mary] Sophia Pollworth?). Maybe LaVonne could > > give us her source? I am grateful for any corrections. > > > > Karen Rowe > > > > .... valentine53179 wrote: > > > > >karen > > >where did you get the statement regarding her parents? > > >specifically > > > > > >On 1/15/06, LaVonne Presley <l.prestley@comcast.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > >>Sophia Thies who married William Pfingsten was the daughter of Fredrick > and > > >>Mary (Pollworth) Thies. Her parents were NOT Otto and Sophia. > > >>LaVonne Thies Presley > > >>----- Original Message ----- > > >>From: "Karen S. Rowe" <karen@karensgen.com> > > >>To: <IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L@rootsweb.com> > > >>Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 1:24 PM > > >>Subject: [ILckSCH] Thies - Pfingsten in Schaumburg, IL > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>>There is a Sophia Wilhelmine Caroline Thies (27 OCT 1858 - 05 APR 1947) > > >>> > > >>> > > >>who married 02 ARP 1880 St. Peter Lutheran, Schaumburg, IL to Wilhelm > > >>Pfingsten (1861-1919). Her parents were Otto and Sophia Thies. > > >> > > >> > > >>>Who are Otto and Sophia Thies? > > >>> > > >>>Karen Rowe > > >>> > > > > > > ==== IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG Mailing List ==== > > _____________________________ > > To post: IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L@rootsweb.com > > To Search: go to rootsweb.com, then to interactive search then enter in > il-cook-schaumburg > > ARCHIVES: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/il-cook-schaumburg . > > Unsubscribe at IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L-request@rootsweb.com or -D > > If there is a system problem and you cannot get to valentine, go here: > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/help.cgi We are a list2 list.... > > SEE ALSO: il-cook-elkgrove il-cook-palatine fpsah60194@hotmail.com > > > > ============================== > > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. 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    01/15/2006 01:43:02
    1. Re: [ILckSCH] Thies - Pfingsten in Schaumburg, IL
    2. Larry Nerge

    3. So, it looks like we have two Sophia Thies that were born between 1856-1858 showing in the St. Peter's records. Here's what I have for Fred & Mary Thies. I'd appreciate any and all updates. Thanks. Larry Nerge Descendants of Fredrick Thies 1 Fredrick Thies aka: Fred "Fritz" Thies b: Abt. 1826 in Hannover, Germany Occupation: Farmer d: Bef. 1910 . +Maria Pollworth aka: Mary Pollworth Thies b: Abt. 1832 in Hannover, Germany m: Abt. 1853 d: Aft. 1910 in IL ...... 2 Fred Thies b: Abt. 1854 in IL d: Aft. 1860 ...... 2 Heinrich Thies b: Feb 21, 1856 in Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL d: Jun 16, 1901 in IL @ 10 AM Burial: Jun 19, 1901 St. Peter's Lutheran Cemetery, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL .......... +Sophia Fedderke aka: Sophia Fedderke Thies b: Aug 09, 1865 in Elk Grove Township, Cook Co., IL m: Jul 09, 1891 in St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL IL License #: 00169543 d: Apr 30, 1947 in Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL of old age, Cert# 0015485 Burial: May 03, 1947 St. Peter's Lutheran Cemetery, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL ...... 2 Gustav Thies b: Abt. 1858 in IL d: Aft. 1860 ...... 2 Sophia Thies b: Abt. 1858 in IL d: Aft. 1860 ----- Original Message ----- From: "LaVonne Presley" <l.prestley@comcast.net> To: <IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 3:47 PM Subject: Re: [ILckSCH] Thies - Pfingsten in Schaumburg, IL > Sophia Thies who married William Pfingsten was the daughter of Fredrick and > Mary (Pollworth) Thies. Her parents were NOT Otto and Sophia. > LaVonne Thies Presley > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Karen S. Rowe" <karen@karensgen.com> > To: <IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 1:24 PM > Subject: [ILckSCH] Thies - Pfingsten in Schaumburg, IL > > > > There is a Sophia Wilhelmine Caroline Thies (27 OCT 1858 - 05 APR 1947) > who married 02 ARP 1880 St. Peter Lutheran, Schaumburg, IL to Wilhelm > Pfingsten (1861-1919). Her parents were Otto and Sophia Thies. > > > > Who are Otto and Sophia Thies? > > > > Karen Rowe > > > > > > ==== IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG Mailing List ==== > > _____________________________ > > To post: IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L@rootsweb.com > > To Search: go to rootsweb.com, then to interactive search then enter in > il-cook-schaumburg > > ARCHIVES: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/il-cook-schaumburg . > > Unsubscribe at IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L-request@rootsweb.com or -D > > If there is a system problem and you cannot get to valentine, go here: > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/help.cgi We are a list2 list.... > > SEE ALSO: il-cook-elkgrove il-cook-palatine fpsah60194@hotmail.com > > > > ============================== > > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > > > ==== IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG Mailing List ==== > _____________________________ > To post: IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L@rootsweb.com > To Search: go to rootsweb.com, then to interactive search then enter in il-cook-schaumburg > ARCHIVES: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/il-cook-schaumburg . > Unsubscribe at IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L-request@rootsweb.com or -D > If there is a system problem and you cannot get to valentine, go here: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/help.cgi We are a list2 list.... > SEE ALSO: il-cook-elkgrove il-cook-palatine fpsah60194@hotmail.com > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

    01/15/2006 01:36:10
    1. Re: [ILckSCH] Thies - Pfingsten in Schaumburg, IL
    2. Larry Nerge

    3. I have a few corrections. I looked again at the church records and the baptism record (page 51, book 1, item 23) definitely shows her birth as Oct 27, 1856 in Michigan, even though her baptism date was oct 24, 1858. Again, her confimation record (page 203, book 1, item 4 for girls) indicates a birth date of Oct 27, 1856. Using the Michigan link, I found a 1860 Census entry in Centreville, Leelanau, MI for the Otto & Sophia Thies family. Larry Nerge Descendants of Otto Thies 1 Otto Thies b: Abt. 1830 in Hannover, Germany Occupation: Farmer & Miller d: Unknown . +Sophia Unknown aka: Sophia Unknown Thies b: Abt. 1831 in Germany m: Abt. 1851 d: Unknown ........ 2 Henry Thies b: Abt. 1852 in IL d: Unknown ........ 2 William Thies b: Abt. 1854 in IL d: Unknown ........ 2 Sophia Wilhelmine Karoline Thies aka: Sophie Thies Pfingsten b: Oct 27, 1856 in MI Christening: Oct 24, 1858 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Confirmation: Mar 24, 1872 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL d: Apr 05, 1947 in Palatine, Cook Co., IL @ Catherine Memorial Hospital of old age, Cert# 0015485 Burial: Apr 08, 1947 St. Peter's Lutheran Cemetery, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL ............ +Heinrich Friedrich Wilhelm Pfingsten aka: William Pfingsten b: Oct 31, 1861 in Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Christening: Nov 15, 1861 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Confirmation: Apr 09, 1876 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL m: Apr 02, 1880 in St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Occupation: farmer d: Oct 18, 1919 in Bartlett, Cook Co., IL of heart stroke Burial: Oct 22, 1919 St. Peters Lutheran Cemetry, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL .................. 3 Heinrich Friedrich Wilhelm Christoph Pfingsten aka: Fred W. Pfingsten b: Aug 04, 1880 in Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Christening: Aug 15, 1880 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Occupation: Farmer d: Nov 28, 1963 in Richfield, McHenry Co., IL @ son Emil's home of coronary thrombosis Burial: Dec 01, 1963 St. Peters Lutheran Cemetry, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL ...................... +Anna Sophie Wilhelmine Caroline Emma Rohlwing aka: Emma Rohlwing Pfingsten b: Mar 06, 1882 in Elk Grove Village, Cook Co., IL Christening: Apr 02, 1882 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Confirmation: Apr 07, 1895 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL m: Sep 03, 1903 in St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL d: Mar 24, 1967 in Elgin, Kane Co., IL @ Simpson Nursing House of age Burial: Mar 28, 1967 St. Peter's Lutheran Cemetery, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL .................. 3 Sophie Marie Engel Wilhelmine Mathilde Pfingsten aka: Mathilde "Tillie" Pfingsten Wilkening Manning b: Mar 06, 1882 in Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Christening: Mar 12, 1882 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Confirmation: Apr 07, 1895 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Occupation: Fur finisher of ladies fur coats d: May 15, 1950 in Chicago, Cook Co., IL @ home Burial: May 18, 1950 Elm Lawn Cemetery, Elmhurst, DuPage Co., IL ...................... +Conrad Friedrich Wilhelm Wilkening aka: William Carl Wilkening b: Jan 03, 1882 in Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Christening: Jan 29, 1882 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Confirmation: Mar 29, 1896 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL m: Jun 08, 1902 in St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Occupation: Operated water-powered grist mill & electric light plant at Cherry Valley, IL d: Jun 16, 1929 in Chicago, Cook Co., IL @ Norwgian-American Hospital, Cert# 6018706 Burial: Jun 20, 1929 Elm Lawn Cemetery, Elmhurst, DuPage Co., IL .................. *2nd Husband of Sophie Marie Engel Wilhelmine Mathilde Pfingsten: ...................... +Harry Manning b: Jul 01, 1880 in Travoli, IL m: Jan 16, 1937 in Chicago, Cook Co., IL d: Oct 29, 1980 in Mountain Home, AR @ Good Samaitan Village Burial: Oct 31, 1980 Baxter Memorial Gardens, Mountain Home, AR .................. 3 Alwine Sophi Caroline Louise Christine Pfingsten aka: Alvina Pfingsten Wilkening b: Sep 22, 1883 in Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Christening: Oct 07, 1883 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Confirmation: Apr 11, 1897 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Occupation: Owned ladies hat shop in Chicago, IL d: Aug 13, 1939 in Logansport, Cass Co., IN @ St. Joseph Hospital Burial: Aug 15, 1939 Elm Lawn Cemetery, Elmhurst, DuPage Co., IL ...................... +August Louis Hermann Wilkening aka: Herman Louis Wilkening b: Oct 22, 1883 in Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Christening: Nov 11, 1883 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Confirmation: Apr 11, 1897 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL m: Apr 03, 1904 in St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL d: Dec 14, 1939 in Elgin, Kane Co., IL @ Elgin State Hospital, Cert# 0000875 Burial: Dec 16, 1939 Bluff City Cemetery, Elgin, Kane Co., IL .................. 3 Sophia Wilhelmine Karoline Emma Pfingsten aka: Emma Pfingsten Fenz Gieseke b: Dec 22, 1885 in Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Christening: Jan 16, 1886 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Confirmation: Mar 26, 1899 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL d: Jul 19, 1961 in Arlington Heights, Cook Co., IL @ NW Community Hospital Burial: Jul 22, 1961 Elm Lawn Cemetery, Elmhurst, DuPage Co., IL ...................... +Johann Wilhelm Hermann Fenz aka: Herman W. Fenz b: Jan 31, 1884 in Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Christening: Feb 02, 1884 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Confirmation: Apr 03, 1898 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL m: Apr 22, 1906 in St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Occupation: Retail Dealer in Grocery & Day Goods d: Jan 12, 1944 in Chicago, Cook Co., IL, Cert# 0001363 Burial: Jan 15, 1944 Elm Lawn Cemetery, Elmhurst, DuPage Co., IL .................. *2nd Husband of Sophia Wilhelmine Karoline Emma Pfingsten: ...................... +Johann Friedrich Wilhelm Gieseke aka: Fred William Gieseke, Sr. b: Mar 16, 1883 in Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Christening: Apr 01, 1883 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Confirmation: Mar 29, 1896 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL m: Jul 08, 1945 in Arlington Heights, Cook Co., IL d: Nov 04, 1947 in Arlington Heights, Cook Co., IL @ home Burial: Nov 08, 1947 Ridgewood Cemetery, Des Plaines, Cook Co., IL .................. 3 Anna Louisa Maria Martha Pfingsten aka: Maria Pfingsten b: Mar 07, 1888 in Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL @ home Christening: Apr 01, 1888 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL d: Jun 04, 1888 in Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL of pneumonia @ 9 AM Burial: Jun 06, 1888 St. Peter's Lutheran Cemetery, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL .................. 3 Heinrich Wilhelm August Emil Pfingsten aka: Emil Pfingsten b: Feb 27, 1889 in Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL @ home Christening: Mar 31, 1889 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL d: Apr 09, 1889 in Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL of pneumonia Burial: Apr 12, 1889 St. Peter's Lutheran Cemetery, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL ........ 2 Johan Hermann Thies b: Apr 24, 1859 in MI Christening: Aug 05, 1860 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL d: Unknown ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen S. Rowe" <karen@karensgen.com> To: <IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 6:25 PM Subject: [ILckSCH] Thies - Pfingsten in Schaumburg, IL > >From the St. Peter Schaumburg, IL church records Sophia Wilhelmine > Karoline Thies was born 24 OCT 1858, baptised 27 OCT 1858, daughter of > Otto and Sophia Thies... I have that she was born at Putten Hill, DuPage > Co., IL... sponsors were Wilhelmine Bottermann and Karoline Wenthe. (My > sources noted for this family were Larry Nerge, Family Tree Maker CD > V-13, Tree 1709 T. Schumacher, researcher J. Malwitz and St. Peter > Schaumburg, IL baptism records.) I am missing page 51 of the St. Peter > baptisms to verify, Larry Nerge may have it. > > Sometimes names were noted differently in different sources ( Friedrich > Otto Thies? or Maria [Mary] Sophia Pollworth?). Maybe LaVonne could > give us her source? I am grateful for any corrections. > > Karen Rowe > > .... valentine53179 wrote: > > >karen > >where did you get the statement regarding her parents? > >specifically > > > >On 1/15/06, LaVonne Presley <l.prestley@comcast.net> wrote: > > > > > >>Sophia Thies who married William Pfingsten was the daughter of Fredrick and > >>Mary (Pollworth) Thies. Her parents were NOT Otto and Sophia. > >>LaVonne Thies Presley > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: "Karen S. Rowe" <karen@karensgen.com> > >>To: <IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L@rootsweb.com> > >>Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 1:24 PM > >>Subject: [ILckSCH] Thies - Pfingsten in Schaumburg, IL > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>>There is a Sophia Wilhelmine Caroline Thies (27 OCT 1858 - 05 APR 1947) > >>> > >>> > >>who married 02 ARP 1880 St. Peter Lutheran, Schaumburg, IL to Wilhelm > >>Pfingsten (1861-1919). Her parents were Otto and Sophia Thies. > >> > >> > >>>Who are Otto and Sophia Thies? > >>> > >>>Karen Rowe > >>> > > > ==== IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG Mailing List ==== > _____________________________ > To post: IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L@rootsweb.com > To Search: go to rootsweb.com, then to interactive search then enter in il-cook-schaumburg > ARCHIVES: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/il-cook-schaumburg . > Unsubscribe at IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L-request@rootsweb.com or -D > If there is a system problem and you cannot get to valentine, go here: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/help.cgi We are a list2 list.... > SEE ALSO: il-cook-elkgrove il-cook-palatine fpsah60194@hotmail.com > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >

    01/15/2006 01:21:09
    1. Re: [ILckSCH] Engelking - Katz (Katze) Schaumburg, IL
    2. Larry Nerge

    3. Here's what I have on John, starting with his parents. Larry Nerge Descendants of Johann Engelking 1 Johann Engelking aka: John Engelking b: Jan 14, 1814 in Apelern, Kreis Schaumburg, Germany Occupation: Farmer d: Dec 28, 1882 in IL . +Ann M. Unknown aka: Ann Unknown Engelking b: Abt. 1814 in Germany m: Abt. 1835 d: Unknown ...... 2 Johann Engelking aka: John Engelking b: Dec 12, 1843 in Germany Christening: Jan 23, 1844 Germany Confirmation: 1858 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL d: Jul 09, 1919 in Diggins, Webster Co., MO Burial: Jul 1919 .......... +Engel Wilhelmina Charlotte Katz aka: Caroline Katz Engelking b: Dec 04, 1845 in Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL m: May 29, 1869 in St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL d: 1918 in Diggins, Webster Co., MO .............. 3 Johann Heinrich Engelking aka: John Engelking b: Jan 01, 1870 in Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Christening: Jan 30, 1870 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL d: Apr 18, 1941 in Diggins, Webster Co., MO Burial: Apr 1941 .................. +Hattie Clarissa Lea aka: Hattie Lea Engelking b: Nov 04, 1876 m: Oct 12, 1899 d: Dec 12, 1970 in Seymore, Webster Co., MO Burial: Dec 1970 Social Security Number: 488-56-7604 .............. 3 Wilhelmine Charlotte Marie Engelking aka: Marie Engelking Thies b: Jan 06, 1872 in Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Christening: Feb 11, 1872 St. Peters Ev. Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL d: Oct 14, 1947 in Readlyn, Bremer Co., IA Burial: Oct 1947 St. Paul Lutheran Cemetery, Readlyn, Bremer Co., IA .................. +Friedrich Wilhelm Thies aka: William Thies b: Sep 27, 1868 m: Jun 28, 1896 in St. Paul Lutheran Church, Readlyn, Bremer Co., IA d: Oct 18, 1927 Burial: Oct 1927 St. Paul Lutheran Cemetery, Readlyn, Bremer Co., IA .............. 3 Friedrick Heinrich Christian Engelking b: Oct 30, 1874 in Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Christening: Nov 22, 1874 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL d: Apr 28, 1934 .................. +Emma Caroline Kollmeyer aka: Emma Kollmeyer Engelking b: Apr 22, 1888 m: Jan 03, 1909 in Diggins, Webster Co., IA d: Unknown .............. 3 Herman Engelking b: Feb 16, 1877 d: Feb 23, 1923 in Diggins, Webster Co., MO .................. +Clara Robinson aka: Clara Robinson Engelking b: Abt. 1880 m: 1920 d: Unknown .............. 3 Margaret Caroline Louise Engelking b: May 14, 1880 in Bremer Co., IA d: May 02, 1949 in Webster Co., MO .............. 3 Emma Engelking aka: Emma Engelking Timmerman b: Sep 17, 1882 in Bremer Co., IA d: Aug 21, 1907 .................. +John Timmerman b: Abt. 1880 m: Jun 06, 1907 d: Unknown .............. 3 William Carl John Engelking b: Nov 23, 1885 in Bremer Co., IA d: Jul 05, 1941 in Diggins, Webster Co., MO .................. +Gertrude Rosenburg aka: Gertrude Rosenburg Engelking b: Abt. 1890 m: Aug 25, 1918 d: Unknown ...... 2 Heinrich Engelking aka: Henry Engelking b: 1845 in IL Confirmation: Apr 15, 1860 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL d: Unknown ...... 2 Peter Engelking b: Abt. 1848 in IL d: Bet. 1850 - 1860 ...... 2 Wilhelm Engelking aka: William Engelking b: Abt. 1850 in Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Confirmation: Apr 09, 1865 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL d: Unknown .......... +Wilhelmine Auguste Thies aka: Auguste Thies Engelking b: Jun 28, 1853 in Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Christening: Feb 19, 1865 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL m: Oct 02, 1873 in St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL d: Unknown .............. 3 Anna Sophie Marie Wilhelmine Auguste Engelking aka: Wilhelmine Engelking b: Aug 14, 1874 Christening: Aug 23, 1874 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL d: Aug 09, 1875 in Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL .............. 3 Johann Heinrich Wilhelm Engelking b: Feb 22, 1876 in IL Christening: Mar 05, 1876 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Confirmation: Mar 30, 1890 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL d: Unknown .............. 3 Heinrich Friedrich Gottlieb Engelking b: Feb 06, 1878 in IL Christening: Feb 24, 1878 St. Peters Ev. Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL d: Unknown .............. 3 Johann Heinrich Conrad Louis Engelking b: Jun 28, 1880 in IL Christening: Jul 11, 1880 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL d: Unknown .............. 3 Heinrich Friedrich Christian Hermann Engelking b: Mar 03, 1882 in IL Christening: Mar 19, 1882 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL d: Unknown .............. 3 Wilhelmine Caroline Sophie Alwine Engelking b: Jun 10, 1883 in IL Christening: Jun 24, 1883 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL d: Unknown ...... 2 Friedrich Engelking aka: Fritz Engelking b: Feb 09, 1852 in IL Confirmation: Mar 25, 1866 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL d: Unknown ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen S. Rowe" <karen@karensgen.com> To: <IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 2:38 PM Subject: [ILckSCH] Engelking - Katz (Katze) Schaumburg, IL > Am looking for information about these families in Schaumburg, IL: > > Johann JOHN Engelking born 23 JAN 1844 in Germany died 09 JUL 1919 at > Diggins, Webster Co., MO. He married 29 MAY 1869 at St. Peter Lutheran, > Schaumburg, IL to Engel WILHELMINE Charlotte Katz (born 04 DEC 1845 in > IL, died 1918) daughter of Johann Friedrich Christian Katze and > Charlotte Nerge. > > In the book Schaumburger Auswanderer #453 there is an entry for: > Engelking, Johann Heinrich Gottlieb, Apelern Nr. 27, heir. 9.6.1844, > ohne Ehefrau Engel Sophia Dorothea geb. Wille u. deren 1843 geb. > Tochter, die er nachholen will, nach Amerika, 1844 (Kb. Rodenberg > Seelenliste S. 331.). > > This JHG Engelking of Apelern #27 was the son of Friedrich Philipp > Engelking (born 11 JAN 1815 at Apelern #27 who died 28 DEC 1882 at > Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL... wife unknown). > > Are both of these Engelkings born 1844 the same person? > > Karen Rowe > > -- > Karen S. Rowe > 122 West Saunders Av. > Lincoln, Ne 68521 > > karen@karensgen.com > or ksrowe@rerowe.com > Genealogy Website: KarensGen.Com > > > ==== IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG Mailing List ==== > _____________________________ > To post: IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L@rootsweb.com > To Search: go to rootsweb.com, then to interactive search then enter in il-cook-schaumburg > ARCHIVES: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/il-cook-schaumburg . > Unsubscribe at IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L-request@rootsweb.com or -D > If there is a system problem and you cannot get to valentine, go here: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/help.cgi We are a list2 list.... > SEE ALSO: il-cook-elkgrove il-cook-palatine fpsah60194@hotmail.com > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta rgetid=5429 >

    01/15/2006 01:05:47
    1. Re: [ILckSCH] Thies - Pfingsten in Schaumburg, IL
    2. .... valentine53179

    3. i think that it wold be a good thing to hold up a bit in this MICHIGAN connection..... yes, it could be that a baptism was years after a birth... but the logic of a michigan birth after the family was already IN illinois is not likely... possible but not likely for our schaumburgers... let some checking occur....it is in the works.... we are aware, right, that these surnames and given names are COMMON....common inour OWN township and surrounding townships.... with such a disparity in birth/baptism, i think we should not assume.... as i said... a check and report is in progress.... On 1/15/06, Larry Nerge <lnerge1@tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > I have a few corrections. I looked again at the church records and the > baptism record (page 51, book 1, item 23) definitely shows her birth as Oct > 27, 1856 in Michigan, even though her baptism date was oct 24, 1858. Again, > her confimation record (page 203, book 1, item 4 for girls) indicates a > birth date of Oct 27, 1856. Using the Michigan link, I found a 1860 Census > entry in Centreville, Leelanau, MI for the Otto & Sophia Thies family. > Larry Nerge > > Descendants of Otto Thies > > > > 1 Otto Thies b: Abt. 1830 in Hannover, Germany Occupation: Farmer & Miller > d: Unknown > > . +Sophia Unknown aka: Sophia Unknown Thies b: Abt. 1831 in Germany m: Abt. > 1851 d: Unknown > > ........ 2 Henry Thies b: Abt. 1852 in IL d: Unknown > > ........ 2 William Thies b: Abt. 1854 in IL d: Unknown > > ........ 2 Sophia Wilhelmine Karoline Thies aka: Sophie Thies Pfingsten b: > Oct 27, 1856 in MI Christening: Oct 24, 1858 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, > Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Confirmation: Mar 24, 1872 St. Peter's Lutheran > Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL d: Apr 05, 1947 in Palatine, Cook Co., IL @ > Catherine Memorial Hospital of old age, Cert# 0015485 Burial: Apr 08, 1947 > St. Peter's Lutheran Cemetery, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL > > ............ +Heinrich Friedrich Wilhelm Pfingsten aka: William Pfingsten b: > Oct 31, 1861 in Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Christening: Nov 15, 1861 St. > Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Confirmation: Apr 09, 1876 > St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL m: Apr 02, 1880 in St. > Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Occupation: farmer d: Oct > 18, 1919 in Bartlett, Cook Co., IL of heart stroke Burial: Oct 22, 1919 St. > Peters Lutheran Cemetry, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL > > .................. 3 Heinrich Friedrich Wilhelm Christoph Pfingsten aka: > Fred W. Pfingsten b: Aug 04, 1880 in Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Christening: > Aug 15, 1880 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL > Occupation: Farmer d: Nov 28, 1963 in Richfield, McHenry Co., IL @ son > Emil's home of coronary thrombosis Burial: Dec 01, 1963 St. Peters Lutheran > Cemetry, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL > > ...................... +Anna Sophie Wilhelmine Caroline Emma Rohlwing aka: > Emma Rohlwing Pfingsten b: Mar 06, 1882 in Elk Grove Village, Cook Co., IL > Christening: Apr 02, 1882 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., > IL Confirmation: Apr 07, 1895 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook > Co., IL m: Sep 03, 1903 in St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook > Co., IL d: Mar 24, 1967 in Elgin, Kane Co., IL @ Simpson Nursing House of > age Burial: Mar 28, 1967 St. Peter's Lutheran Cemetery, Schaumburg, Cook > Co., IL > > .................. 3 Sophie Marie Engel Wilhelmine Mathilde Pfingsten aka: > Mathilde "Tillie" Pfingsten Wilkening Manning b: Mar 06, 1882 in Schaumburg, > Cook Co., IL Christening: Mar 12, 1882 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, > Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Confirmation: Apr 07, 1895 St. Peter's Lutheran > Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Occupation: Fur finisher of ladies fur > coats d: May 15, 1950 in Chicago, Cook Co., IL @ home Burial: May 18, 1950 > Elm Lawn Cemetery, Elmhurst, DuPage Co., IL > > ...................... +Conrad Friedrich Wilhelm Wilkening aka: William Carl > Wilkening b: Jan 03, 1882 in Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Christening: Jan 29, > 1882 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Confirmation: Mar > 29, 1896 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL m: Jun 08, > 1902 in St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Occupation: > Operated water-powered grist mill & electric light plant at Cherry Valley, > IL d: Jun 16, 1929 in Chicago, Cook Co., IL @ Norwgian-American Hospital, > Cert# 6018706 Burial: Jun 20, 1929 Elm Lawn Cemetery, Elmhurst, DuPage Co., > IL > > .................. *2nd Husband of Sophie Marie Engel Wilhelmine Mathilde > Pfingsten: > > ...................... +Harry Manning b: Jul 01, 1880 in Travoli, IL m: Jan > 16, 1937 in Chicago, Cook Co., IL d: Oct 29, 1980 in Mountain Home, AR @ > Good Samaitan Village Burial: Oct 31, 1980 Baxter Memorial Gardens, Mountain > Home, AR > > .................. 3 Alwine Sophi Caroline Louise Christine Pfingsten aka: > Alvina Pfingsten Wilkening b: Sep 22, 1883 in Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL > Christening: Oct 07, 1883 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., > IL Confirmation: Apr 11, 1897 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook > Co., IL Occupation: Owned ladies hat shop in Chicago, IL d: Aug 13, 1939 in > Logansport, Cass Co., IN @ St. Joseph Hospital Burial: Aug 15, 1939 Elm Lawn > Cemetery, Elmhurst, DuPage Co., IL > > ...................... +August Louis Hermann Wilkening aka: Herman Louis > Wilkening b: Oct 22, 1883 in Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Christening: Nov 11, > 1883 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Confirmation: Apr > 11, 1897 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL m: Apr 03, > 1904 in St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL d: Dec 14, > 1939 in Elgin, Kane Co., IL @ Elgin State Hospital, Cert# 0000875 Burial: > Dec 16, 1939 Bluff City Cemetery, Elgin, Kane Co., IL > > .................. 3 Sophia Wilhelmine Karoline Emma Pfingsten aka: Emma > Pfingsten Fenz Gieseke b: Dec 22, 1885 in Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL > Christening: Jan 16, 1886 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., > IL Confirmation: Mar 26, 1899 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook > Co., IL d: Jul 19, 1961 in Arlington Heights, Cook Co., IL @ NW Community > Hospital Burial: Jul 22, 1961 Elm Lawn Cemetery, Elmhurst, DuPage Co., IL > > ...................... +Johann Wilhelm Hermann Fenz aka: Herman W. Fenz b: > Jan 31, 1884 in Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Christening: Feb 02, 1884 St. > Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Confirmation: Apr 03, 1898 > St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL m: Apr 22, 1906 in St. > Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Occupation: Retail Dealer > in Grocery & Day Goods d: Jan 12, 1944 in Chicago, Cook Co., IL, Cert# > 0001363 Burial: Jan 15, 1944 Elm Lawn Cemetery, Elmhurst, DuPage Co., IL > > .................. *2nd Husband of Sophia Wilhelmine Karoline Emma > Pfingsten: > > ...................... +Johann Friedrich Wilhelm Gieseke aka: Fred William > Gieseke, Sr. b: Mar 16, 1883 in Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Christening: Apr > 01, 1883 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Confirmation: > Mar 29, 1896 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL m: Jul > 08, 1945 in Arlington Heights, Cook Co., IL d: Nov 04, 1947 in Arlington > Heights, Cook Co., IL @ home Burial: Nov 08, 1947 Ridgewood Cemetery, Des > Plaines, Cook Co., IL > > .................. 3 Anna Louisa Maria Martha Pfingsten aka: Maria Pfingsten > b: Mar 07, 1888 in Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL @ home Christening: Apr 01, 1888 > St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL d: Jun 04, 1888 in > Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL of pneumonia @ 9 AM Burial: Jun 06, 1888 St. > Peter's Lutheran Cemetery, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL > > .................. 3 Heinrich Wilhelm August Emil Pfingsten aka: Emil > Pfingsten b: Feb 27, 1889 in Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL @ home Christening: > Mar 31, 1889 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL d: Apr > 09, 1889 in Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL of pneumonia Burial: Apr 12, 1889 St. > Peter's Lutheran Cemetery, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL > > ........ 2 Johan Hermann Thies b: Apr 24, 1859 in MI Christening: Aug 05, > 1860 St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL d: Unknown > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Karen S. Rowe" <karen@karensgen.com> > To: <IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 6:25 PM > Subject: [ILckSCH] Thies - Pfingsten in Schaumburg, IL > > > > >From the St. Peter Schaumburg, IL church records Sophia Wilhelmine > > Karoline Thies was born 24 OCT 1858, baptised 27 OCT 1858, daughter of > > Otto and Sophia Thies... I have that she was born at Putten Hill, DuPage > > Co., IL... sponsors were Wilhelmine Bottermann and Karoline Wenthe. (My > > sources noted for this family were Larry Nerge, Family Tree Maker CD > > V-13, Tree 1709 T. Schumacher, researcher J. Malwitz and St. Peter > > Schaumburg, IL baptism records.) I am missing page 51 of the St. Peter > > baptisms to verify, Larry Nerge may have it. > > > > Sometimes names were noted differently in different sources ( Friedrich > > Otto Thies? or Maria [Mary] Sophia Pollworth?). Maybe LaVonne could > > give us her source? I am grateful for any corrections. > > > > Karen Rowe > > > > .... valentine53179 wrote: > > > > >karen > > >where did you get the statement regarding her parents? > > >specifically > > > > > >On 1/15/06, LaVonne Presley <l.prestley@comcast.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > >>Sophia Thies who married William Pfingsten was the daughter of Fredrick > and > > >>Mary (Pollworth) Thies. Her parents were NOT Otto and Sophia. > > >>LaVonne Thies Presley > > >>----- Original Message ----- > > >>From: "Karen S. Rowe" <karen@karensgen.com> > > >>To: <IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L@rootsweb.com> > > >>Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 1:24 PM > > >>Subject: [ILckSCH] Thies - Pfingsten in Schaumburg, IL > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>>There is a Sophia Wilhelmine Caroline Thies (27 OCT 1858 - 05 APR 1947) > > >>> > > >>> > > >>who married 02 ARP 1880 St. Peter Lutheran, Schaumburg, IL to Wilhelm > > >>Pfingsten (1861-1919). Her parents were Otto and Sophia Thies. > > >> > > >> > > >>>Who are Otto and Sophia Thies? > > >>> > > >>>Karen Rowe > > >>> > > > > > > ==== IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG Mailing List ==== > > _____________________________ > > To post: IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L@rootsweb.com > > To Search: go to rootsweb.com, then to interactive search then enter in > il-cook-schaumburg > > ARCHIVES: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/il-cook-schaumburg . > > Unsubscribe at IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L-request@rootsweb.com or -D > > If there is a system problem and you cannot get to valentine, go here: > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/help.cgi We are a list2 list.... > > SEE ALSO: il-cook-elkgrove il-cook-palatine fpsah60194@hotmail.com > > > > ============================== > > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. 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    01/15/2006 12:52:29
    1. Re: [ILckSCH] Thies - Pfingsten in Schaumburg, IL
    2. LaVonne Presley

    3. Fred and Mary (Maria Pollworth) were my great grandparents. They had four sons and one daughter. The sons were Fred, Henry, August, and Herman. The only daughter was Sophia. She was born in Addison Township (Putten Hill) on Dec. 8, 1858. She married William (Wilheim) Pfingsten on April 2, 1880 at St. Peters in Schaumburg. When her brother Henry (my grandfather) died of a heart attack in 1901, William Pfingsten took care of the money matters and the estate for my Grandmother (Sophie Fedderke Thies) as she was widowed with 5 children (ages 1-9). Sophia's brother August Thies came to run the farm for the family until Henry and Sophie's sons (Henry and William) were old enough to farm on their own. Fred and Mary lived in a second house on the farm that Henry and Sophie had, so Fred could advise his grandsons as they took over the farming operation. There is a picture of the family on Hyperion of the Schaumburg Township Library under Local History. Sophia and William Pfingsten took in my great-grandmother Mary (Maria Pollworth) when she was too old and frail to live by herself. Sophia Pfingsten died on April 5, 1947 at Catherine Hospital in Palatine, IL. She is bured at St. Peters as are two of her brothers (Henry and Herman). This can also be verified in the Dear Cousin 2000 book, Volume 2, page 478. Thank you for asking for my credentials and information. I appreciate getting the facts correct for all future reference. LaVonne Thies Presley l.prestley@comcast.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen S. Rowe" <karen@karensgen.com> To: <IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 5:25 PM Subject: [ILckSCH] Thies - Pfingsten in Schaumburg, IL > >From the St. Peter Schaumburg, IL church records Sophia Wilhelmine > Karoline Thies was born 24 OCT 1858, baptised 27 OCT 1858, daughter of > Otto and Sophia Thies... I have that she was born at Putten Hill, DuPage > Co., IL... sponsors were Wilhelmine Bottermann and Karoline Wenthe. (My > sources noted for this family were Larry Nerge, Family Tree Maker CD > V-13, Tree 1709 T. Schumacher, researcher J. Malwitz and St. Peter > Schaumburg, IL baptism records.) I am missing page 51 of the St. Peter > baptisms to verify, Larry Nerge may have it. > > Sometimes names were noted differently in different sources ( Friedrich > Otto Thies? or Maria [Mary] Sophia Pollworth?). Maybe LaVonne could > give us her source? I am grateful for any corrections. > > Karen Rowe > > .... valentine53179 wrote: > > >karen > >where did you get the statement regarding her parents? > >specifically > > > >On 1/15/06, LaVonne Presley <l.prestley@comcast.net> wrote: > > > > > >>Sophia Thies who married William Pfingsten was the daughter of Fredrick and > >>Mary (Pollworth) Thies. Her parents were NOT Otto and Sophia. > >>LaVonne Thies Presley > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: "Karen S. Rowe" <karen@karensgen.com> > >>To: <IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L@rootsweb.com> > >>Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 1:24 PM > >>Subject: [ILckSCH] Thies - Pfingsten in Schaumburg, IL > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>>There is a Sophia Wilhelmine Caroline Thies (27 OCT 1858 - 05 APR 1947) > >>> > >>> > >>who married 02 ARP 1880 St. Peter Lutheran, Schaumburg, IL to Wilhelm > >>Pfingsten (1861-1919). Her parents were Otto and Sophia Thies. > >> > >> > >>>Who are Otto and Sophia Thies? > >>> > >>>Karen Rowe > >>> > > > ==== IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG Mailing List ==== > _____________________________ > To post: IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L@rootsweb.com > To Search: go to rootsweb.com, then to interactive search then enter in il-cook-schaumburg > ARCHIVES: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/il-cook-schaumburg . > Unsubscribe at IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L-request@rootsweb.com or -D > If there is a system problem and you cannot get to valentine, go here: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/help.cgi We are a list2 list.... > SEE ALSO: il-cook-elkgrove il-cook-palatine fpsah60194@hotmail.com > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >

    01/15/2006 12:05:47
    1. Re: [ILckSCH] Thies -Wente in Schaumburg, IL
    2. Larry Nerge

    3. No, I see that entry in the church records (page 265, book 1, item 19) but have never been able to tie them into any family group. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen S. Rowe" <karen@karensgen.com> To: <IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 2:18 PM Subject: [ILckSCH] Thies -Wente in Schaumburg, IL > Larry do you have any information about a Heinrich Thies who married > Sophia Wente in 1851 at St. Peter Lutheran, Schaumburg, IL? > > Karen Rowe > > > ==== IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG Mailing List ==== > _____________________________ > To post: IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L@rootsweb.com > To Search: go to rootsweb.com, then to interactive search then enter in il-cook-schaumburg > ARCHIVES: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/il-cook-schaumburg . > Unsubscribe at IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L-request@rootsweb.com or -D > If there is a system problem and you cannot get to valentine, go here: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/help.cgi We are a list2 list.... > SEE ALSO: il-cook-elkgrove il-cook-palatine fpsah60194@hotmail.com > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

    01/15/2006 11:10:58
    1. Re: [ILckSCH] Thies - Pfingsten in Schaumburg, IL
    2. .... valentine53179

    3. and now about the marriage that you commented about pertaining to pfingsten...was that at st peter scha? could you have changed the sequencing of names..? and arrived at a conclusion? an easy enough thing to do? just as an aside for the list... when we look at old records...and this is especialy tru with st peters record... the UNDERLINED name is the name that is commonly used by the person... chancing the sequencing or assuming that because thenames were the same in the string, that it is the same person is not something that should be done... this cnversation about this relationship is rather important and a perfect example to all that CLOSE does not make it TRU... i know that in the next days things will be confirmed.... On 1/15/06, Karen S. Rowe <karen@karensgen.com> wrote: > >From the St. Peter Schaumburg, IL church records Sophia Wilhelmine > Karoline Thies was born 24 OCT 1858, baptised 27 OCT 1858, daughter of > Otto and Sophia Thies... I have that she was born at Putten Hill, DuPage > Co., IL... sponsors were Wilhelmine Bottermann and Karoline Wenthe. (My > sources noted for this family were Larry Nerge, Family Tree Maker CD > V-13, Tree 1709 T. Schumacher, researcher J. Malwitz and St. Peter > Schaumburg, IL baptism records.) I am missing page 51 of the St. Peter > baptisms to verify, Larry Nerge may have it. > > Sometimes names were noted differently in different sources ( Friedrich > Otto Thies? or Maria [Mary] Sophia Pollworth?). Maybe LaVonne could > give us her source? I am grateful for any corrections. > > Karen Rowe > > .... valentine53179 wrote: > > >karen > >where did you get the statement regarding her parents? > >specifically > > > >On 1/15/06, LaVonne Presley <l.prestley@comcast.net> wrote: > > > > > >>Sophia Thies who married William Pfingsten was the daughter of Fredrick and > >>Mary (Pollworth) Thies. Her parents were NOT Otto and Sophia. > >>LaVonne Thies Presley > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: "Karen S. Rowe" <karen@karensgen.com> > >>To: <IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L@rootsweb.com> > >>Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 1:24 PM > >>Subject: [ILckSCH] Thies - Pfingsten in Schaumburg, IL > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>>There is a Sophia Wilhelmine Caroline Thies (27 OCT 1858 - 05 APR 1947) > >>> > >>> > >>who married 02 ARP 1880 St. Peter Lutheran, Schaumburg, IL to Wilhelm > >>Pfingsten (1861-1919). Her parents were Otto and Sophia Thies. > >> > >> > >>>Who are Otto and Sophia Thies? > >>> > >>>Karen Rowe > >>> > > > ==== IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG Mailing List ==== > _____________________________ > To post: IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L@rootsweb.com > To Search: go to rootsweb.com, then to interactive search then enter in il-cook-schaumburg > ARCHIVES: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/il-cook-schaumburg . > Unsubscribe at IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L-request@rootsweb.com or -D > If there is a system problem and you cannot get to valentine, go here: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/help.cgi We are a list2 list.... > SEE ALSO: il-cook-elkgrove il-cook-palatine fpsah60194@hotmail.com > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >

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