St. Johannes Cemetery Alliance (SJCA) 17 September 2003 Just a reminder to all that the "March To St. Johannes" will take place this coming Sunday, 21 September 2003. The march begins at 2:00 pm, at the entrance to the access road on Irving Park. Ample parking is being provided across the street in the industrial area, and a small shuttle bus should be available for those who cannot physical make the 15 to 20 minute walk to the cemetery. Once gathered at St. Johannes, there will be a short rededication service of the cemetery grounds and time to pay respect to all the faithful interred there. It is also proper, if you choose, to bring fresh-cut flowers to place at the gravesite of your beloved ancestors. This is a time to remember all those who have gone on before us and to recognize St. Johannes Cemetery as the final resting place of so many who were instrumental in forging communities out of the Illinois prairies that once stood here. It is a time to share with others the fact that, despite the efforts of many to remove St. Johannes and Rest Haven Cemeteries, these are sacred grounds, which were consecrated decades ago as a place of final rest for those believers then, and now. Your presence will uplift that reality and join in communion with those faithful who have gone before us, and those yet to follow. Please plan to be a part of this "March to St. Johannes". Share the news with your congregation and friends. Bring to voice your concerns over the rejection of religious freedoms to worship and to bury the dead, as have recently been approved by Illinois State Legislators working with the City of Chicago, against St. John United Church of Christ and St. Johannes Cemetery. Hope to see you there this Sunday, 21 September 2003. Sincerely, Michael A Link to the Becket Fund Website: www.becketfund.org ________________________________________ Michael Martens Kirchhoff, Sr. [email protected] St. Johannes Cemetery Committee Member

Subject: My very own RECOLLECTIONS - 8/100 1. VAUDEVILLE -ever had the occasion to see a vaudeville show in person; who did you see, and did you have a good time, who were you with, do you believe the movie portrayal of these shows is a fair representation, did you ever see the performer again in another venue, did you enjoy it? If you have not seen a vaudeville show, describe a live play, even if a school play...... 2. THEATRE -regarding the show above, tell how the theatre was, the colors, the seats, the music, the flavor of the attendees, your fashions, the fashions of the others in your party, the "specialness" of the night... 3. DREAMS -do you dream in color, do you remember the dreams or just figments of them, are you a bystander or a participant, do they carry portions of the day just past, or are they new images or fore-tellings, do you dream frequently or only occasionally, do you speak in your dreams, and have you been told that you speak out loud while you dream, do they repeat over and over in the same night, and did you dream last night? and can you recount that dream or another? Remember...... Write as you speak.... Be yourself.... Write liberally...... Do not worry about technique.... It is the THOUGHT that counts - or thoughts! Write as if it might be the LAST time you can address the question... 182 000 126/226

here is a site that i know you will be spending lot of time on... be sure to have a word document open so you can merrily paste along... http://infoweb2.newsbank.com/iw-search/we/Historic?p_product=ctha&p_action=key word&p_theme=trib (hightlight copy and paste each of these two llines into your browser, be sure to not have any spaces between key and word tho) when you get there click your favorite button.....so you can return easily sign in..... enter guest as user name enter guest as password. click 'save password' notice the first entry of obits.... this covers most of the obits in the papers below... notice that you can select by state.... but, before you consider yourself done, check the papers themselves, seems there are always some stragglers... notice how to maneuver on the page... next, previous, incremental pages, and HOME the page could time out on you... after hours of time.... just click your backup button and see if it does not return for you.... highllighting those that you checked, i think might stay if when you are on a page and cannot finish, you favorite the link that is in your browser.. it might bring you back to where you were... test it on something that does not matter... not in the middle of your own project... and take a look at the advanced search and see if it can help you other than just using your surname... i tested springinsguth... and winkelhake.... got a passle of hits... now it is your turn... have fun... (remember to CONTROL+S after each of your clips to your DOCUMENT....trust me, you would be very unhappy to loose many pages of clippings....) you might find that your document becomes quite large.... stanrdardize it... arial 8pt font til you use it, and with COntrol +F replace the degree marks (block it and past to the query box, and replace with a blank space...) ditto with the end of line manual breaks which you can replace with a space if you open MORE or SPECIAL on the COntrol+F box... manual line breaks will be there....significantly reduces pages) i know you will like this link.... it is constantly being updated....visit often... valentine

I had a problem with my email this day and was unable to write to the lists... I have nothing to do with this offer other than forwarding it to the list for your advisory... but i did receive comments about not being able to click on a link and send, so, i would like to bring to your attention a little bit of info so that you can add this to your knowledgebase and so that you know what to do in the future.... ... for instance, look at this link that was in tom's post below........ :<A HREF="https://webmail.recol.net/cgi-bin/nph-mr.cgi?do=compose&to=TKemp%4 0Godfrey.org&msg=2&p=2988529088&u=9734830353&r=74271937">[email protected] rg</A> do you see the < and the >? these are the beginning and the end of a link.... but which must be modified to work....... always these extra characters MUST be modified.... modified either in what you block/highlight or in what you see in your browser bar before you click GO.... so :<A HREF="https://webmail.recol.net/cgi-bin/nph-mr.cgi?do=compose&to=TKemp%4 0Godfrey.org&msg=2&p=2988529088&u=9734830353&r=74271937">[email protected] rg</A> becomes https://webmail.recol.net/cgi-bin/nph-mr.cgi?do=compose&to=TKemp%4 0Godfrey.org&msg=2&p=2988529088&u=9734830353&r=74271937 which is a two line link that you must cut and paste to your browser.... but also notice the [email protected] that shows at the tail end of this rambling link.... THAT is the address to use to request the free cd... now, even though we are quite late in putting in a request, it could very well be that Tom did not get many queries because of this rambling link... and you might still be able to get the free CD, so try to send him a request.... he can always just say too late... and for those that send their requests to me, i am sorry to not have been able to respond to you til now... systems just are as they will be and I have no control... HURRY--- Original Message ----- If anyone would like a free copy of the Family History Library Catalog CD-ROM please let me know. We have over 100 to give away. The Godfrey Memorial Library <<A HREF="http://www.godfrey.org/">http://www.godfrey.org</A>> also houses a mini-Family History Center. We are one of 60 research libraries across the country that has FHL borrowing privileges. Barbara Prymas and her staff are pleased to assist all researchers with their genealogy and in borrowing microfilm from the Family History Library. The service is completely free and open to the public. (The same fee for mailing costs is charged at the Godfrey Memorial Library as is charged in other area FHCs). Researchers can check the FHL online catalog at <<A HREF="http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp">ht tp://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp</A>> If you'd like a free CD-ROM version of the Family History Library Catalog (while the supply lasts) send your name/mailing address) to me at:<A HREF="https://webmail.recol.net/cgi-bin/nph-mr.cgi?do=compose&to=TKemp%4 0Godfrey.org&msg=2&p=2988529088&u=9734830353&r=74271937">[email protected] rg</A> or by mail to: Thomas Jay Kemp Godfrey Memorial Library 134 Newfield Street Middletown, CT 06457-2534 Phone: 860-346-4375 Fax: 860-347-9874 email: <A HREF="https://webmail.recol.net/cgi-bin/nph-mr.cgi?do=compose&to=TKemp%4 0Godfrey.org&msg=2&p=2988529088&u=9734830353&r=74271937">[email protected] rg</A> Web site: <A HREF="http://www.godfrey.org/">http://www.godfrey.org</A> All the best, Tom ==== COOK-CO-IL Mailing List ==== Having trouble unsubbing? Send a message with the word "unsubscribe" (no quotation marks) in the body of the message to: [email protected] (mail mode) or [email protected] (digest mode) --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.516 / Virus Database: 313 - Release Date: 9/1/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.516 / Virus Database: 313 - Release Date: 9/1/2003

in case you cannot find anything in cook, try Kane County..... found this: ----- Original Message ----- From: Juli Claussen To: [email protected] All the naturalization indexes and some of the records for Kane Co. are available for you to view on microfilm after ordering through your closest LDS Family History Center. Once I found my ancestor in the index this way, I was able to request the naturalization decree from the Kane County Courthouse---I think it was the Circuit Clerk's office--and received it quickly for a small fee. Good luck, Juli Claussen

IF you happen to find your person, look around on that same day for OTHERS of our township...in my experiences, people did things in a group... maybe they did so for this effort too.... found this:----- Original Message ----- From: Melanie Greenberg Subject: Re: Naturalization Records The Naturalization soundex index cards for Northern Illinois (including Chicago) are on microfilm at the National Archives branch in Chicago. If you don't live near Chicago, you can request that they mail you a photocopy of the index card for a fee. If the naturalization was in US District Court in Chicago, the NARA Chicago branch has those records and can photocopy those for a fee as well. If I remember correctly, the form to request the card asks for other identifying information like a possible street address, date of immigration, and so forth that would narrow down the search. You can request the form from the Chicago page of NARA: http://www.archives.gov/ Once you have the index card, if the naturalization took place at the US District Court in Chicago, the Chicago NARA branch will have those records and you can order them via mail. For any other court listed on the card in Cook County, order the records from the Cook County Clerk of Circuit Court Archives using the form on their website: http://www.cookcountyclerkofcourt.org/Archives_/Archive_Holdings/archive_hol dings.htm Melanie Greenberg http://www.greenbergtree.homestead.com/

HURRY----- Original Message ----- If anyone would like a free copy of the Family History Library Catalog CD-ROM please let me know. We have over 100 to give away. The Godfrey Memorial Library <<A HREF="http://www.godfrey.org/">http://www.godfrey.org</A>> also houses a mini-Family History Center. We are one of 60 research libraries across the country that has FHL borrowing privileges. Barbara Prymas and her staff are pleased to assist all researchers with their genealogy and in borrowing microfilm from the Family History Library. The service is completely free and open to the public. (The same fee for mailing costs is charged at the Godfrey Memorial Library as is charged in other area FHCs). Researchers can check the FHL online catalog at <<A HREF="http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp">http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp</A>> If you'd like a free CD-ROM version of the Family History Library Catalog (while the supply lasts) send your name/mailing address) to me at:<A HREF="https://webmail.recol.net/cgi-bin/nph-mr.cgi?do=compose&to=TKemp%40Godfrey.org&msg=2&p=2988529088&u=9734830353&r=74271937">[email protected]</A> or by mail to: Thomas Jay Kemp Godfrey Memorial Library 134 Newfield Street Middletown, CT 06457-2534 Phone: 860-346-4375 Fax: 860-347-9874 email: <A HREF="https://webmail.recol.net/cgi-bin/nph-mr.cgi?do=compose&to=TKemp%40Godfrey.org&msg=2&p=2988529088&u=9734830353&r=74271937">[email protected]</A> Web site: <A HREF="http://www.godfrey.org/">http://www.godfrey.org</A> All the best, Tom

Subject: My very own RECOLLECTIONS - 7/100 1. ELEMENTARY SCHOOLING -favorite subject, favorite teacher, a typical day at school, hardest subject, best thing about school, worst, best teacher and why, how did you get to school, TRUTHFULLY how far was it to school, do you still keep in touch with a school friend, how did you dress, what was lunch like and what did you normally eat, did you put the lunch together or did someone else, who was the bully at school, were YOU bullied or were YOU the BULLY, (do you regret that?) and what was the 'bathroom" drill like... was there a BATHROOM or ? 2. Pick a HISTORICALLY based 'hollywood' movie... - like TITANIC, DANCES WITH WOLVES, MIDWAY, GETTYSBURG, perhaps one that illustrated some of your OWN life experiences, etc and write about your thoughts on that movie, the stars, what you think was r-e-a-l about the movie, if you liked the movie, if you believed it to be representative, your thoughts on the losses of that movie, thoughts you heard from others about it, (note: after you have written, try a google.com query "name" +movie on the subject movie and add some of the clips to your material, perhaps a photo, gather the citation info to) 3. Tell WHERE you saw the above movie, - describe the place, the furnishings, the decor, the cost, the snacks, who you went with, how you got there. Remember...... Write as you speak.... Be yourself.... Write liberally...... Do not worry about technique.... It is the THOUGHT that counts - or thoughts! Write as if it might be the LAST time you can address the question... 260 000 000

----- Original Message ----- From: .... valentine53179 To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 10:47 PM Subject: koenig..... koenig was a name in Schaumburg Illinois, named after SChaumburg Lippe of Hannover... thee were others how were in schaumburg Illinois and who then went to minnesota... it might be worth a posting to the list and a check of the archives... further there are others on the list who have tracked their people from schaumburg to minnesota, so there may be other bits of info there for you [email protected] to subscribe [email protected] with subscribe in the subject and text.... ----- Original Message ----- From: Al and Marjorie Rosendahl To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 8:55 PM Subject: RE: [HN] Minning emigration Hanover to New Orleans Louisiana USA Mary, I am also researching Koenig.....only know a few details: Freidrich KOENIG b 25 Feb 1846, emigrated to USA in 1863, ended up in Oronoco, Olmsted County MN, married 1873. I would be interested in communicating with you further...word has it that he came to USA with 2 brothers, but that has not been verified. Marjorie > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Mary Atwood > Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 11:38 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [HN] Minning emigration Hanover to New Orleans Louisiana > USA > > > I forgot to include in my previous post....if Eliza the daughter is the > correct person to be in my family, as an adult she married August MEYERS. > That happened in the 1860s I believe. They had one child. August MEYERS > disappears from the picture. By 1879 Eliza MINNING MEYERS > married Johnathan > (John) KOENIG in New Orleans. > > Both August MEYERS (b. About 1844 Germany) and John KOENIG (b. About 1848 > Germany) are also from Germany, dates of birth and immigration to New > Orleans unknown. > > Am also looking for a possible connection to Ferdinand MEYERS, born in > Germany about 1841 and in the US about 1842. > > Thanks. > > Mary > In California > > Researching German origins: MEYERS MINNING KOENIG RANBARGER > > > _______________________________________________ > Hannover-L mailing list > [email protected] > http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/hannover-l > _______________________________________________ Hannover-L mailing list [email protected] http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/hannover-l

am in need of some info on HENRY GLOS... anybody got anything.... carole? Larry? Karen? he married Lucy Schween I think... I am in need of speaking to descendents.... the sooner the better.... so WHAT ELSE IS NEW....?

Thanks, Gloria, for your helpfulness. My Küter ancestors had to live with KEETer here in Illinois, and my Köllings went with COALing, even though both of them kept the "ue" in their names. "Greve" would certainly have been treated as "Grieve" by us Americans, just as Stüve would have been transformed beyond belief. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 2:23 PM Subject: [ILckSCH] Re: Greve Cemetery.... > Dave, > > The pronunciations over here have changed a lot in some areas & hardly at all > in others. I live downstate & say names differently than my cousins in Cook & > DuPage counties do. It seems like a lot of the names ending in "e" that > have the soft "eh" sound in German have taken on a "hard e" pronunciation up > north. Rieke (Rie-keh) became Rie-kee. Listhartke (List-hart-keh) became > List-har-kee (they've even dropped the last "t" in the pronunciation), etc. Stüve > which was Americanized to Stueve really took a hit -- it's not only Stee-vee to > some folks now, but I've been told that some lines have changed the spelling > to Stevie, & a line in Wisconsin became Steven or Stevens. Where I live, > they'd still be pronounced more like the original German version. When I'm up > north, I have to remember to use the "local dialect" or I get corrected. LOL > > Gloria Landwer Scott > > In a message dated 9/14/2003 10:01:44 AM Central Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > > > Since German pronunciation is very regular, with very few exceptions, I'd > > expect the settlers to pronounce Greve as "GREHvuh." > > > > Dave Fleer > > Fleer, Kueter, Kolling, Wahl > > > ==== IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG Mailing List ==== > To post: [email protected] > To Search: http://listSEARCHES.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listSEARCH.pl?list=il-cook-schaumburg > Note: YOU will need to add RG to SCHAUMBU in the Query box and Enter.... > ARCHIVES: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/il-cook-schaumburg > Unsubscribe at [email protected] or -D > If there is a system problem and you cannot get to valentine, go here....http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/help.cgi look for info about LIST2 lists. We are a list2 list....SEE ALSO: il-cook-elkgrove il-cook-palatine > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Subject: My very own RECOLLECTIONS - 6/100 1. SPORTS -are you a BIG sports fan, team favorites, describe your first attendance at a professional sporting event, who were you with, and all the specifics, do you KNOW the rules of your favorite sport at a referee level? or at the couch level? Have you been a coach, a player, talk about your uniforms, have you any of the mitts bats, balls etc of the sport in your collection, have you any trophies, describe the game for which you received your favorite trophy. 2. Describe the days when sports were SEEN on the radio. -tell of the preparation to listen, describe the room, the others present, the snacks you did or did not eat, the time when this happened in the day, how important was this 'session' of seeing the event on the radio to you 3. JOKES - are you a prankster, a good story teller, a jokester, where did this personality come from, share a few GOOD jokes, a very recent one, an old one, your thoughts on ethnic jokes, what of your parents or grandparents, what do you remember of THEIR joke telling, do you remember any of THEIR jokes, do you keep a JOKE folder, were you one to pass jokes through the office. Remember...... Write as you speak.... Be yourself.... Write liberally...... Do not worry about technique.... It is the THOUGHT that counts - or thoughts! Write as if it might be the LAST time you can address the question... 252 000 226

Fwiw Rodenberg is in Cook County, Schaumburg Township. However up until the mid 1990's it had a Roselle post office address. Because the majority of Roselle is in Dupage the confusion is understandable. MjBrockhoff St. John Ev. Lutheran - Rodenberg Schaumburg, IL .... valentine53179 wrote: > http://graveyards.com/ > > > perhaps st john rodennberg would bee on this IF it were in cook county... > or if the webowner knew it was in cook county... (if it is in fact in cook county) > it is in cook county, it just has a dupage mailing address, right? > > i am surprised too that the ohare cemeteries are not on the list....

these sites were sent to me by a list member... they might be of some help to you with regard to HOW IT WAS within your family.... and perhaps to date some pictures.... http://www.centuryinshoes.com/home.html http://kclibrary.nhmccd.edu/decades.html http://dmarie.com/timecap/ perhaps something gleaned from these will be helpful in your family BOOK.

Dave, The pronunciations over here have changed a lot in some areas & hardly at all in others. I live downstate & say names differently than my cousins in Cook & DuPage counties do. It seems like a lot of the names ending in "e" that have the soft "eh" sound in German have taken on a "hard e" pronunciation up north. Rieke (Rie-keh) became Rie-kee. Listhartke (List-hart-keh) became List-har-kee (they've even dropped the last "t" in the pronunciation), etc. Stüve which was Americanized to Stueve really took a hit -- it's not only Stee-vee to some folks now, but I've been told that some lines have changed the spelling to Stevie, & a line in Wisconsin became Steven or Stevens. Where I live, they'd still be pronounced more like the original German version. When I'm up north, I have to remember to use the "local dialect" or I get corrected. LOL Gloria Landwer Scott In a message dated 9/14/2003 10:01:44 AM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Since German pronunciation is very regular, with very few exceptions, I'd > expect the settlers to pronounce Greve as "GREHvuh." > > Dave Fleer > Fleer, Kueter, Kolling, Wahl

Hello everyone, St. Johannes (Bensenville) & Resthaven are definitely in DuPage County, not Cook. Altho O'Hare is officially part of Chicago, there are 2 square miles of DuPage County land included in its western end. St. Johannes, being north of the railroad tracks that more or less delineate the actual border of the airport property, has the dubious & now dangerous distinction of being both in DuPage County but on ground now claimed by the Dictatorship of Chicago. Resthaven is south of the tracks & officially outside of Chicago's property. Unfortunately there's no complete reading of St. Johannes. At least not yet. There's a group working on that, but it's a very difficult chore. There was a lot of vandalism in the 1960's & 1970's, & many stones have been destroyed. Added to that, many of the older markers made from softer stone have eroded to the point of being unreadable. And of course there were many older burials that were unmarked. (It's quite probable that they originally had wooden markers that were never replaced by stone.) The "reading" that is being done is, as I understand it, a combination of funeral home records, church records & what's found on the stones. It's being done for the purpose of reconstructing the actual locations of all the burials. It's not really a genealogical effort so much as the need to find out who is where, which is extremely important if the bulldozers ever move in. As far as I know, there's no plan to put the reading online. The DAR did a reading of Resthaven in 1951. There's a copy of it at the Newberry Library. I've also seen a reading of Resthaven on Rootsweb, but I don't recall the URL or how I found it. I'm not sure how complete it is. And of course Resthaven also has unmarked graves & stones that have been missing since the vandalism period. One major burial at Resthaven is unmarked...... It's a mass grave of burials that were moved there from the tiny "Wilmers" cemetery that Chicago dug up in 1952 when O'Hare built or extended the diagonal runway. "Wilmers", apparently also called Evangelical Zion of Leyden, was in Cook County just west of the former (1940's) intersection of Bryn Mawr & Manheim. It was assumed there were roughly "37 white persons" buried there, plus supposedly several Native Americans. The earliest known burial was in 1853 (one of my Wilmers relatives). When the DAR read the cemetery in 1951 there were only 15 stones left, & the burials associated with those stones were removed to Oakridge Cemetery on Roosevelt Road in Hillside (or Westchester?). The rest (but probably not all of them....) were taken en masse to Resthaven to a common grave that wasn't marked. I'm not sure if anyone knows exactly where it is in Resthaven. The DuPage County Genealogical Society does have the online list of burials in Addison Township, but unfortunately it doesn't denote which cemetery a person is in. I wish it did. Gloria Landwer Scott

st johnnes/johnand resthaven and st john rodenberg are two different places... rodenberg has some on line......this mailing list has stone transcriptions tho i know incomplete.. maybe A SOMEONE could contact me about on line 'official' listings? FOR THE OHARE CEMS*** try here; Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 22:22:57 -0500 From: ".... valentine53179"To: [email protected] Subject: [ILckSCH] Addison township resthaven/st john http://www.dcgs.org/addison/ check this for Addison Township Cemetery Index Addison Township Combined Index Sources Compiled by Ken Madsen Churchville Cemetery & Funeral List Friedens Cemetery & Peace Church Funeral List Geils Funeral Home records 1896-1935 Hackerott Burial Ground List Immanuel Luth. Elmhurst, Cemetery & Funeral List Immanuel Luth. Elmhurst, 1917 Membership Old Methodist Cemetery List (Bensenville) Pierce Farm Burial Ground List ***Resthaven Cemetery & Methodist Funeral List ***St. John's Membership Lists for 1899, 1924, & 1949 ***St. John's Cemetery & Funeral List St. Paul Luth. Cemetery & Funeral List Zion Luth. Souls Register for 1888 Zion Luth. Cemetery & Funeral List ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 12:18 AM Subject: Re: [ILckSCH] cook county cemeteries st john rodenberg Though I have seen it many times as I landed at O'Hare, I had not realized that the cemetery was German. Is there a web page that lists the people buried there? I am still trying to track down where Dorothea Weidemann Graebe (Engel Maria Dorothea Weidemann, born 22 January 1825 at Riepen, Germany, with grandparents Weidemann, Steding, Meyer, Nolte) is buried. She died in Chicago (recorded in First St. Paul's) as Dorothea Graebe (wife of Heinrich Graebe, married First St. Paul's 4 October 1847) on 21 July 1850. She was one of the two sponsors at the First St. Paul's baptism on 18 June 1847 of my ancestor Wilhelmina Dorothea Gelis, born Chicago 14 November 1846, daughter of Carl August Gelis of Deckbergen and Sophie Marie Dorothee Wilhelmine Hasemann (went by Dorothea) of Beckedorf. So I strongly suspect that Dorothea Weidemann Greabe was related somehow to Dorothea Hasemann. Wesley Johnston ==== IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG Mailing List ==== To post: [email protected] To Search: http://listSEARCHES.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listSEARCH.pl?list=il-cook-schaumburg Note: YOU will need to add RG to SCHAUMBU in the Query box and Enter.... ARCHIVES: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/il-cook-schaumburg Unsubscribe at [email protected] or -D If there is a system problem and you cannot get to valentine, go here....http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/help.cgi look for info about LIST2 lists. We are a list2 list....SEE ALSO: il-cook-elkgrove il-cook-palatine ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Subject: My very own RECOLLECTIONS - 5/100 1. Describe a typical SUNDAY morning of your youth. -what things did you do; your parents do; routines that occurred; best part of the day; your tasks of the say; what first came to mind when you read the question. 2. Describe a typical SUNDAY morning of your parental years. 3. Describe THIS SUNDAY morning; or a typical Sunday morning of this time in your life.. Remember...... Write as you speak.... Be yourself.... Write liberally...... Do not worry about technique.... It is the THOUGHT that counts - or thoughts! Write as if it might be the LAST time you can address the question...

Though I have seen it many times as I landed at O'Hare, I had not realized that the cemetery was German. Is there a web page that lists the people buried there? I am still trying to track down where Dorothea Weidemann Graebe (Engel Maria Dorothea Weidemann, born 22 January 1825 at Riepen, Germany, with grandparents Weidemann, Steding, Meyer, Nolte) is buried. She died in Chicago (recorded in First St. Paul's) as Dorothea Graebe (wife of Heinrich Graebe, married First St. Paul's 4 October 1847) on 21 July 1850. She was one of the two sponsors at the First St. Paul's baptism on 18 June 1847 of my ancestor Wilhelmina Dorothea Gelis, born Chicago 14 November 1846, daughter of Carl August Gelis of Deckbergen and Sophie Marie Dorothee Wilhelmine Hasemann (went by Dorothea) of Beckedorf. So I strongly suspect that Dorothea Weidemann Greabe was related somehow to Dorothea Hasemann. Wesley Johnston

Since German pronunciation is very regular, with very few exceptions, I'd expect the settlers to pronounce Greve as "GREHvuh." Dave Fleer Fleer, Kueter, Kolling, Wahl ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2003 8:21 PM Subject: Re: [ILckSCH] Greve Cemetery.... > Hi list...these are my families. My Great Grandmother is the Martha Meyer > 1879 you have listed...BTW she married Herman H Kolling 1904. You are missing a > couple of siblings for the children of Dietrich Meyer and Margaret Greve > Meyer...I will have to update this family when I get a chance soon. > > My Grandmother Alice Kolling Hebert is the daughter of Martha Meyer Kolling > and Herman Kolling. My Mother attended the Greve reunions and all the cousins > I have questioned have pronounced GREVE like the word LEAVE not the Greevee > I have heard others say...I will have to ask my German cousins how they > pronounce it in German. Remember many of our German ancestors changed the > enuciations by the turn of the century as they dropped umlauts etc. > > Laurie Switzer > > > ==== IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG Mailing List ==== > To post: [email protected] > To Search: http://listSEARCHES.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listSEARCH.pl?list=il-cook-schaumburg > Note: YOU will need to add RG to SCHAUMBU in the Query box and Enter.... > ARCHIVES: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/il-cook-schaumburg > Unsubscribe at [email protected] or -D > If there is a system problem and you cannot get to valentine, go here....http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/help.cgi look for info about LIST2 lists. We are a list2 list....SEE ALSO: il-cook-elkgrove il-cook-palatine > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >