Thank you V for this nice addition to the history of Schaumburg. Sometime during WW1 the second "N" was dropped from Gathman. 'Tis strange that all our ancestors efforts to be more "American" makes our efforts to follow the trail they left just a little harder. Grace

here is a newsletter that is sent out once a quarter.... a nice glossy printed document, mailed to all the village residents.... In this particular issue "they" talk about the BLUE house, the SLOAN/Kotel House, the Hartmann House. http://www.ci.schaumburg.il.us/vos.nsf/0/0868EA56D7A71F1786256DD5006CD824/$File/Cracker%20Barrel%20Winter%202003.pdf?OpenElement "BLUE HOUSE" RECEIVES A PROPER NAME You may be familiar with the blue house and barn located at 32 East Schaumburg Road. The house, while not an official Village historic landmark, is a contributing structure within the Olde Schaumburg Historic District. Little was known about the structure's history except that it was constructed around 1915. Recently the Planning Department was visited by Bill Hartman of Barrington who shared some information about the house and its early residents. Mr. Hartman informed us that he had reason to believe that his great grandfather, Heinrich Hartmann, a Schaumburg farmer, constructed the house for his family. Mr. Hartmann died at the age of 81, a couple of years after the house was completed. His daughter, Mary Willie, lived in the house for a short time after. When and to whom she sold the house is currently unknown. Both Heinrich and his wife, Maria, are buried at St. Peter Lutheran Church Cemetery. Mr. Hartman and his family recently stop! ped by the house and were graciously offered a tour by the current owners, Roberta and Michael Hudson. Pastor and Mrs. Hudson have owned the house since 2000 and have been working on making many necessary improvements. Their most recent project included removing a shed addition on the north side of the barn, which is their first step in restoring the barn to its original condition. Historic structures are frequently named for the family that built it or for a family that lived there that left a lasting impact on the community. Given this new information on the house, the generic "blue house" moniker will be replaced with the more appropriate "Hartmann House." Another interesting historical note, as was often done, Mr. Hartman's grandfather "Americanized" the family's last name. During World War II, he dropped one of the "n's". As Mr. Hartman explained, at that time, many families made modifications to their name as a way to emphasize that they were American and to show patri! otism - and during the war they didn't necessarily want to emphasize their German heritage. there is also a photo showing: Top row from left: Anna Engelking, Herman Hartmann, Fred Hartmann, Minnie Lichthardt. Bottom row from left: Emma Mahler, Heinrich Hartmann, Elvina Eineke, Maria Hartmann, Mary Willie. NOW if you are interested in getting a copy of this, open the pdf link.... find the select on the toolbar ...notice the little 'OPENARROW" to the left... click on that see text or image...click on what you want...then place your cursor on the image and left click once, CONTROL+C, then in your own document, CONTROL+V and paste it.... if in text, then go thru select again, click/hold and drag the amount you want to copy and do CONTROL+C, then in your document CONTROL+V again.... Do COntrol+S in your document after each action like this.... to save it.

DOES anyone have any genealogy work that they could contribute on any of these people??? http://www.ci.schaumburg.il.us/vos.nsf/0/0868EA56D7A71F1786256DD5006CD824/$File/Cracker%20Barrel%20Winter%202003.pdf?OpenElement top row from left Anna Engelking, Herman Hartmann, Fred Hartmann, Minnie Lichthardt. Bottom row from left: Emma Mahler, Heinrich Hartmann, Elvina Eineke, Maria Hartmann, Mary Willie.

REMEMBER - Controversial comments and PRIVATE thoughts should be kept PRIVATE Subject: MY very own RECOLLECTIONS - 96/100 1. Talk about your given name, do you like it, do you know why it was chosen for you, do you know others with the same name, have others younger than you in your family also been given the same name, how do you feel about this, do you like to be called by your nickname, how did you get your nickname, if you had the chance to name yourself, what name would you pick? 2. Do you invest in the stock market, do you consider yourself successful, do you belong to any stock clubs, how much time per day do you devote to this, have you special stocks that you will not sell, why is this, include here a list of the present stocks/funds/futures that you own (just a list of the names, not the amount!), did this interest develop at a young age or only as you matured, do you find that you watch financial channels more or less than local news, have you mentored anyone in this area, have you purchased stock for other people, perhaps as gifts? 3. With the listing you prepared before- what you like about these people...... what you perhaps did not like about them.... and what you think they might have thought about YOU......and why! Remember...... Write as you speak.... Be yourself.... Write liberally...... Do not worry about technique.... It is the THOUGHT that counts - or thoughts! Write as if it might be the LAST time you can address the question... 0 0 0

REMEMBER - Controversial comments and PRIVATE thoughts should be kept PRIVATE Subject: MY very own RECOLLECTIONS - 95/100 1. What are your personal opinions and thoughts about space exploration, did you look at Mars when it was its closest to Earth, did you watch when earthlings first landed equipment on Mars, do you think your grandchildren might actually see earthlings ON Mars, living there? on the moon? do you think that the early space program helped people of the world due to inventions in electronics, foods, utility equipment, have you ever seen a launch, do you watch the return of the space crafts, have you looked for the space station in the sky (which you can see on certain days at certain times with the naked eye)? 2. Do you recall the FIRST wake and funeral that you attended, did you know the person or know OF the person, what did you think of that experience, do you have different feelings about funerals now as you are older, do you usually go to funerals, or write a nice remembrance to the family about the deceased, as a genealogist, did you or do you feel driven to attend? .... 3. Do you recall the first day that you wore glasses, were you a child, how was it when others saw you with glasses, did you like the first pair that you had. were they real glamorous, do you recall the reasons why someone encouraged you or your parents to get you in for an eye test, what do you remember of that, how about a hearing aide, how long did you go before you decided that you should go in for a hearing test, do you think that people see glasses and hearing aides in the same light, or differently, why is that? Remember...... Write as you speak.... Be yourself.... Write liberally...... Do not worry about technique.... It is the THOUGHT that counts - or thoughts! Write as if it might be the LAST time you can address the question... 213 0 0

REMEMBER - Controversial comments and PRIVATE thoughts should be kept PRIVATE Subject: MY very own RECOLLECTIONS - 94/100 1. What are your personal opinions and thoughts about O J Simpson, and the trial and the results? 2. Jot some notes down about these things: .Nancy Drew, The Hardy Boys, Laurel & Hardy, Abbott & Costello, Sky King, Little Lulu comics, Brenda Starr, Howdy Doody and The Peanut Gallery, The Lone Ranger, The Shadow Knows, Nellie Belle, Roy and Dale, Trigger and Buttermilk 3. Do you hunt, and where do you hunt, and what do you hunt, where did you learn, who was your teacher, do you think that hunters of today are all good huntsmen or do they look at it as a SPORT? Do you think that the younger generation should hunt? Do you make your own blinds, how do you prepare? Remember...... Write as you speak.... Be yourself.... Write liberally...... Do not worry about technique.... It is the THOUGHT that counts - or thoughts! Write as if it might be the LAST time you can address the question... 0 0 0

REMEMBER - Controversial comments and PRIVATE thoughts should be kept PRIVATE Subject: MY very own RECOLLECTIONS - 93/100 1. Have you ever experienced an aurora BOREALIS/Aurora Australis or a midnight sun? 2. When was the absolute happiest time of your life, day of your life? Please, write to exhaustion about the time. Write until you just KNOW that the reader fully understands your happiness. 3. Who taught you to fish, what was the first fish you ever caught, tell about that day, who was with you, were you in a boat, on shore, on a dock, were you cold, warm, early in the morning, late in the day?. Remember...... Write as you speak.... Be yourself.... Write liberally...... Do not worry about technique.... It is the THOUGHT that counts - or thoughts! Write as if it might be the LAST time you can address the question... 205 0 0

I did a quick check of the 1870 federal census for Cook Co., IL (using Genealogy.com) and found Anton Wagner listed as a minister, age 40, living in the 7th ward of Chicago in Cook Co., IL. This may be the minister that married Charles Wille and Elizabeth Wagner. I suggest looking at the 1870 - 1872 Chicago directories and see if it lists where this Anton Wagner was living or maybe what church he may have served at that time. Then you may be able to contact the church and get a marriage record . Good luck. Carol Knigge --- [email protected] wrote: > ATTACHMENT part 1 message/rfc822 > > IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-D Digest Volume 03 : Issue 321 > > Today's Topics: > #1 [ILckSCH] Fw: WILLE Charles marred [".... > valentine53179" <valentine53] > > Administrivia: > *********************************************************** > ARCHIVES: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/il-cook-schaumburg > > SEARCH OUR ARCHIVES: > http://listSEARCHES.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listSEARCH.pl?list=il-cook-schaumburg > > NOTE: you will probably have to type RG to the end > of the address when the screen comes up and then > Enter. The search screen will then come up.... > (the address is just too long.....) > > UNSUBSCRIBE: > To unsubscribe from > [email protected], send a NEW email > with UNSUBSCRIBE in the subject and in the message > area without anything else, to: > > [email protected] > > THE KEY HERE, as in most ROOTSWEB LISTS to subscribe > and unsubscribe, is the word -REQUEST. Please make a > note! > > > To contact the IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-D list > administrator, send mail to: > [email protected] > > If there is a system problem and you cannot get to > valentine, go here.... > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/help.cgi and look for > info about LIST2 lists. We are a list2 list.... > > > > ______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822 > Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 13:01:39 -0600 > From: ".... valentine53179" > <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [ILckSCH] Fw: WILLE Charles marred MEYER > Elsabet Cook County Lutheran Church??? > > ?????? > ----- Original Message ----- > [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 12:51 PM > Subject: WILLE Charles marred MEYER Elisabet Cook > County Lutheran Church??? > > > you might want to try wheeling township... there > were wille's there > and there are wille's in schaumburg township too > along with meyer.... > ----- Original Message ----- > From: [email protected] via > [email protected] > > I am searching for any information I can find on > my great grandparents > who were married in Cook County, IL on September > 28, 1872 by a Lutheran > pastor by the name of A Wagner. They applied for > marriage on September > 24, 1872. The clerk pro tem was George W. > Wheeler. I have a copy of the > marriage license but it only tells me the > information I am listing. They > were Charles Meyer and Elisabet Wille. Are there > any records I could > search which would give me more information. I > would like to know what > church they married in and who were their > Groomsman and Maid of Honor. > It would be nice to have records as to where they > lived but there were no > census records in this time period. > > Any information as to where I need to go for more > information would be > greatly appreciated. > > Marlene in South Dakota > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/

REMEMBER - Controversial comments and PRIVATE thoughts should be kept PRIVATE Subject: MY very own RECOLLECTIONS - 92/100 1. What are your favorite colors, favorite foods, favorite aroma, favorite sports, favorite music, favorite dance, favorite time of year, favorite time of day, favorite time of life? 2. What are your personal opinions and thoughts about the Kennedy assassination, what were your thoughts then and now? 3 WHO taught you to read a map, a blue print or schematic, did it come easy for you, why was it that you needed to learn at that moment? When you open a box of a new item, do you (truthfully) read the instructions first or try to make the item work until you run into a problem and then read, do you (truthfully) ask for directions while on the road or in a store/school/airport/new facility? When you are the driver, do you bump up the speed limit 5 mph, 10 mph or more as part of your standard operating procedure, do you do this all the time or only on long trips, do you pullover at the first possible chance when a passenger says "I have to 'go'?" or do you try to get a few more miles as you pass by appropriate facilities? Remember...... Write as you speak.... Be yourself.... Write liberally...... Do not worry about technique.... It is the THOUGHT that counts - or thoughts! Write as if it might be the LAST time you can address the question... 0 207 0

?????? ----- Original Message ----- [email protected] Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 12:51 PM Subject: WILLE Charles marred MEYER Elisabet Cook County Lutheran Church??? you might want to try wheeling township... there were wille's there and there are wille's in schaumburg township too along with meyer.... ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] via [email protected] I am searching for any information I can find on my great grandparents who were married in Cook County, IL on September 28, 1872 by a Lutheran pastor by the name of A Wagner. They applied for marriage on September 24, 1872. The clerk pro tem was George W. Wheeler. I have a copy of the marriage license but it only tells me the information I am listing. They were Charles Meyer and Elisabet Wille. Are there any records I could search which would give me more information. I would like to know what church they married in and who were their Groomsman and Maid of Honor. It would be nice to have records as to where they lived but there were no census records in this time period. Any information as to where I need to go for more information would be greatly appreciated. Marlene in South Dakota

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Judith A. Pohlman of Grayslake Memorial services for Judith A. Pohlman (nee Wright), 64, will be held at 6:30 p.m. Sunday, at the Evangelical Free Church of Wauconda, Route 176, Wauconda. Born Oct. 6, 1939, in Evanston, she died Sunday, Nov. 30, 2003. Judith was a homemaker. She was the loving mother of William (Annie) Pohlman of Gurnee and Lara (Rob) Larson of Island Lake; devoted daughter of the late William and Verna Wright; dear sister of Patricia Wright (Cliff Gardner) and Susan Wright of Wauconda; cherished grandmother of 15; and fond aunt of many nieces and nephews. Memorials may be made to Hospice of Northeastern Illinois, 410 S. Hager Ave., Barrington, IL 60010. Arrangements were made by Windridge Funeral Home, Cary. Friends may visit www.dailyherald.com/obits to express condolences and sign the guest book. For funeral information, (847)639-2191. Published in the Chicago Suburban Daily Herald on 12/4/2003.

Robert W. Gallagher Funeral services for Robert W. Gallagher, 77, of LaGrange, will be held at 11 a.m. today, at the Grace Lutheran Church of LaGrange, 201 N. Catherine Ave., LaGrange Park, where he will lie in state from 10 a.m. until the time of services. Interment will be in Randhill Cemetery, Arlington Heights. Robert was an Army Air Corp veteran of World War II, the Korean War and the Illinois National Guard. He retired after 23 years of service at Barnstead/Labline Instruments in Melrose Park. He was a member of Grace Lutheran Church of LaGrange for over 50 years, past commander of V.F.W. Post #5163, and a member of the American Legion and the Illinois Police Association. He was the beloved husband of 54 years to June (nee Goebbert); loving father of Donna (Larry) Mayfield of Plano, Texas, Patricia (John) Cheeseman of South Bend, Ind., John. R. Gallagher of LaGrange, Andrew Gallagher of Waterman, Ill. and the late James (Susan) Gallagher of Wheeling; dear brother of Jo! hn D. Gallagher of Niles; cherished grandfather of 10; cherished great-grandfather of two; and loved uncle to many nieces and nephews, grandnieces and grandnephews. He is also survived by many brothers- and sisters-in-law. He was preceded in death by his parents, Donald and Florine Gallagher; his brother, Carson Gallagher; and by a granddaughter, Kimberly. Visitation was Thursday, at Hallowell & James Funeral Home, 1025 W. 55th St., Countryside. In lieu of flowers, memorials may be made to Grace Lutheran Church, or to the V.F.W. National Home for Children. Friends may visit www.dailyherald.com/obits to express condolences and sign the guest book. For funeral information, (708) 352-6500. Published in the Chicago Suburban Daily Herald from 12/4/2003 - 12/5/2003.

Erna Decker of Des Plaines for 30 years Funeral services for Erna Decker (nee Fiene), 83, will be held at 4 p.m. today, at G.L. Hills Funeral Home, 745 Graceland Ave., Des Plaines. Born Aug. 3, 1920, in Villa Park, she died Wednesday, Dec. 3, 2003, at Holy Family Medical Center. Interment will be private. Erna loved life and lived it to the fullest. She was the dear friend of Ed Rodewald, with whom she giggled through life; loving mother of David (Joanne) Decker and Donna Becker; fond grandmother of Jodi (Steve) Cachur, Brittney (Paul) Readinger, Scott (Becky) Decker, Christine (Aaron) Holmer and many who knew her as "Gram;" dear great-grandmother of Michael Cachur, Payton Decker and Baby Holmer, due in January; and loving sister of Florence (the late Carl) Jannusch and Eleanor (Ed) Zoellick. Visitation will be from 1 p.m. until the time of services today, at the funeral home. For those who knew her, please bring your fondest memory to share with others. In lieu of flowers, ! contributions may be made to a charity of one's choice, or because she always remained young at heart, the First Congregational Church of Des Plaines Pilgrim Fellowship (PF) Youth Group. Friends may visit www.dailyherald.com/obits to express condolences and sign the guest book. For funeral information, (847)699-9003. Published in the Chicago Suburban Daily Herald from 12/5/2003 - 12/6/2003.

REMEMBER - Controversial comments and PRIVATE thoughts should be kept PRIVATE Subject: MY very own RECOLLECTIONS - 91/100 1. What are your personal opinions and thoughts about (any current public figure of your choice)? 2. When was the scariest of your life, do you think it would be as scary if you experienced it now as a adult? 3. Who in the family knows how to knit, crochet, how did they learn, are any representative samples still around, did you learn? who taught you? do you still do the craft, how much time do you currently spend on it? Do you know how to sew, and what machine did you learn on and what machine do you now have.. Remember...... Write as you speak.... Be yourself.... Write liberally...... Do not worry about technique.... It is the THOUGHT that counts - or thoughts! Write as if it might be the LAST time you can address the question... 194/195/201- 0 0

REMEMBER - Controversial comments and PRIVATE thoughts should be kept PRIVATE Subject: MY very own RECOLLECTIONS - 89/100 1. What are your personal opinions and thoughts about communism, what do you remember of being in school during this time, or of what your children learned during this time, do you believe that all you were told on radio, television, papers was totally true and unprejudiced, what did you think about the fall of the Berlin Wall, did you watch it fall on television, your thoughts of what that wall meant, your thoughts of those that FOUGHT the wall in their way, did you ever see the wall in person, were you part of the earlier Berlin airlift even in a small way? 2. What are your personal opinions and thoughts about unions, who in the family is a member, are you always pro union, do you believe that changes could be made to make the union even better for all, has anyone in the family left a union, broken a picket line, acted in disagreement with the majority of the members, the results, describe a typical grievance meeting, a typical voting meeting for those who have not attended - what steps are followed, voting styles, procedures for commentary, what are some thoughts about HOFFA, about 1990 Solidarity union leader Lech Walesa who became Poland's first popularly elected president? 3. Velveeta celebrated its 75th birthday in November, how did you use it when it first came out, do you use it now, in slice or block/brick form, have you a recipe to share? what about Twinkies, ........Hostess Cupcakes, .......Philadelphia Cream Cheese, .....long pretzel sticks, .......SPAM? Remember...... Write as you speak.... Be yourself.... Write liberally...... Do not worry about technique.... It is the THOUGHT that counts - or thoughts! Write as if it might be the LAST time you can address the question... 205 0 0

REMEMBER - Controversial comments and PRIVATE thoughts should be kept PRIVATE Subject: MY very own RECOLLECTIONS - 90/100 1. What are your personal opinions and thoughts about Nazism? Hitler? 2. Do you read the Reader's Digest, how long have you read this magazine, are there certain regular features that you most enjoy, do you have a subscription or do you buy it from the news stand? What other publications do you regularly read? (get a sampling for your family history artifact collection.) 3. Who in the family, is also a genealogist, have you a plan for where your work will reside in the future, what concerns do you have about future interest in FAMILY, and family information, do you think the work that you have done is valuable?... Remember...... Write as you speak.... Be yourself.... Write liberally...... Do not worry about technique.... It is the THOUGHT that counts - or thoughts! Write as if it might be the LAST time you can address the question... 292 0 0

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REMEMBER - Controversial comments and PRIVATE thoughts should be kept PRIVATE Subject: MY very own RECOLLECTIONS - 88/100 1. 2. Name all the pets that you had in your lifetime and tell a little story about them, try to find a photo of them, or similar to them, perhaps on google.com images, what did your parents think about some of your choices, what kinds of pets did your children have, did you have a funeral for these pets at their passing? 3. Do you have a computer that you use, what do you use it for, how did you learn to use it, what kind was it and how BIG was it, what was the monitor like. and the mouse, what kind of mouse do you prefer, was it harder to learn than you thought or simple? Remember...... Write as you speak.... Be yourself.... Write liberally...... Do not worry about technique.... It is the THOUGHT that counts - or thoughts! Write as if it might be the LAST time you can address the question... 0 0 0

re: trailer park on higgins... named something with the word OWL in it? anybody remember....