Chuck, The "Challenging Chicago" book is available to read online. Look for it at books.google.com. I've started reading it. Interesting historical perspective. Cathy On 3/2/09 3:01 AM, "il-cook-chicago-request@rootsweb.com" <il-cook-chicago-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Saloons in Cook County (charles tintera) > 2. Re: Saloons in Cook County (mary miller) > 3. Re: Saloons in Cook County (mary miller) > 4. Re: Saloons in Cook County (ChicagoGenealogy) > 5. Re: Saloons in Cook County (Salliezoo@aol.com) > 6. Re: Saloons in Cook County (Ellen Woods) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 09:35:21 -0500 > From: "charles tintera" <CTINTERA@cfl.rr.com> > Subject: [IL-COOK-CHICAGO] Saloons in Cook County > To: <il-cook-chicago@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <698E9E04A6DA4CEFB7E0E438BA6BC8AB@D1S6D691> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > RE Grandfather's Saloons in Cook County > > Thank you to everyone that replied. > > I will certainly try the IRAD and the Perry Duis books. > > I am also trying to access the Newberry Library to see if they have any > telephone books online from the early 1900's online and if those listings > (addresses) agree with the ones I have. > > I am surprised that there isn't more information available. The time span of > Prohibition in the US, 1920 to 1933, would have impinged on many if not most > of the family histories that we research. > > In May I am dragging my wife (kicking and screaming :)) to Chicago to visit > "home" and the places I remember or have meaning to my Family Tree. It will > be my first trip back since the early '80s. > > I make a living as a photographer and mean to bring back pictures of as many > locales, buildings, house, and churches, even graves, as I can reach in the > 3-4 days that we are there. > > Charles "Chuck" Tintera > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 10:04:22 -0600 > From: "mary miller" <edwardcmary@bellsouth.net> > Subject: Re: [IL-COOK-CHICAGO] Saloons in Cook County > To: <il-cook-chicago@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <26B3F25173C54A7982221D30B1E1D6B4@mary> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > have you checked.. www.ancestorsorg.com under tools.. and the city > directories for chicago.. I am certain under the businesses Saloons are > listed as well as the owner s and addresses for the yrs. listed > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "charles tintera" <CTINTERA@cfl.rr.com> > To: <il-cook-chicago@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 8:35 AM > Subject: [IL-COOK-CHICAGO] Saloons in Cook County > > >> RE Grandfather's Saloons in Cook County >> >> Thank you to everyone that replied. >> >> I will certainly try the IRAD and the Perry Duis books. >> >> I am also trying to access the Newberry Library to see if they have any >> telephone books online from the early 1900's online and if those listings >> (addresses) agree with the ones I have. >> >> I am surprised that there isn't more information available. The time span >> of >> Prohibition in the US, 1920 to 1933, would have impinged on many if not >> most >> of the family histories that we research. >> >> In May I am dragging my wife (kicking and screaming :)) to Chicago to >> visit >> "home" and the places I remember or have meaning to my Family Tree. It >> will >> be my first trip back since the early '80s. >> >> I make a living as a photographer and mean to bring back pictures of as >> many >> locales, buildings, house, and churches, even graves, as I can reach in >> the >> 3-4 days that we are there. >> >> Charles "Chuck" Tintera >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IL-COOK-CHICAGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 10:07:44 -0600 > From: "mary miller" <edwardcmary@bellsouth.net> > Subject: Re: [IL-COOK-CHICAGO] Saloons in Cook County > To: <il-cook-chicago@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <2471F813E8B14452B2B40AA2B1B8CD00@mary> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Correction: www.ChicagoAncestors.org sorry > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "charles tintera" <CTINTERA@cfl.rr.com> > To: <il-cook-chicago@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 8:35 AM > Subject: [IL-COOK-CHICAGO] Saloons in Cook County > > >> RE Grandfather's Saloons in Cook County >> >> Thank you to everyone that replied. >> >> I will certainly try the IRAD and the Perry Duis books. >> >> I am also trying to access the Newberry Library to see if they have any >> telephone books online from the early 1900's online and if those listings >> (addresses) agree with the ones I have. >> >> I am surprised that there isn't more information available. The time span >> of >> Prohibition in the US, 1920 to 1933, would have impinged on many if not >> most >> of the family histories that we research. >> >> In May I am dragging my wife (kicking and screaming :)) to Chicago to >> visit >> "home" and the places I remember or have meaning to my Family Tree. It >> will >> be my first trip back since the early '80s. >> >> I make a living as a photographer and mean to bring back pictures of as >> many >> locales, buildings, house, and churches, even graves, as I can reach in >> the >> 3-4 days that we are there. >> >> Charles "Chuck" Tintera >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IL-COOK-CHICAGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 10:39:56 -0600 > From: ChicagoGenealogy <chicagogenealogy@comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [IL-COOK-CHICAGO] Saloons in Cook County > To: il-cook-chicago@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <49AABA5C.8060801@comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Footnote.com offers a nice way to search, save, and print city directory > pages, too. It's a subscription site, but you should be able to get free > access with a visit to your local Family History Center. > > Cynthia > > mary miller wrote: >> Correction: www.ChicagoAncestors.org sorry > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 14:47:22 EST > From: Salliezoo@aol.com > Subject: Re: [IL-COOK-CHICAGO] Saloons in Cook County > To: il-cook-chicago@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <cff.4d9fbafe.36dc404a@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > I too have found info about saloons in Cicero scarce. My grandfather also > owned a saloon in 1930 and so far I haven't found any resources to help me > with the search. At least you have a saloon name and address...I don't have > that either. I was hoping to find it under his name (Joe Benda) somewhere. > All > I know is the saloon was in Cicero. I've read the suggested books and am > currently reading every Capone era book I can find hoping to find something. > I > do know he was "supposedly" confronted by one of Capone's henchmen > (regarding his home brewery in the basement) from a story my mother once told > me. But > not sure how reliable that story is. > > I think the phone directory is a good idea. Where does one find directories > from that era online? I live in Hawaii so its a long haul to search in > person. > > Aloha, Sallie > **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. 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This book is a must-read, and really fascinating! > > Ellen > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dianna Saracco-Farish" <DFARISH@ec.rr.com> > To: <lkushgen@verizon.net>; <il-cook-chicago@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 3:50 PM > Subject: Re: [IL-COOK-CHICAGO] Saloons in Cook County > > >> hi Thanks for posting the names of theses books! >> Being from Chicago and having deep roots, this sounds like interesting >> reading! >> >> Dianna >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Linda Kush" <lkushgen@verizon.net> >> To: <il-cook-chicago@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 2:34 PM >> Subject: Re: [IL-COOK-CHICAGO] Saloons in Cook County >> >> >>> Hi Chuck: >>> >>> This won't be specific to your grandfather, but for a little insight into >>> what his business might have been like, try this excellent book: >>> >>> The Saloon: Public drinking in Chicago and Boston 1880 to 1920, by Perry >>> Duis. University of Illinois Press 1983 >>> >>> Duis also wrote "Challenging Chicago," a must-read for anyone whose >>> ancestors lived in Chicago in the 19th century. >>> >>> I imagine both are widely available. I got them from the Boston public >>> library. >>> >>> Best wishes, >>> Linda in Boston >>> >>> --- On Thu, 2/26/09, charles tintera <CTINTERA@cfl.rr.com> wrote: >>> From: charles tintera <CTINTERA@cfl.rr.com> >>> Subject: [IL-COOK-CHICAGO] Saloons in Cook County >>> To: IL-COOK-CHICAGO@rootsweb.com >>> Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 11:29 PM >>> >>> My Grandfather, father's side, owned or ran a saloon on the east side of >>> Cicero before prohibition. I have the address and Google Maps, >>> Street-view, >>> shows the building still there though derelict. >>> >>> >>> >>> Are there any records pertaining to saloons? Liquor licenses? Tax >>> records? >>> Could they be a source of information? >>> >>> >>> >>> TIA >>> >>> cvt >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Charles "Chuck" Tintera >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> IL-COOK-CHICAGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> IL-COOK-CHICAGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IL-COOK-CHICAGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the IL-COOK-CHICAGO list administrator, send an email to > IL-COOK-CHICAGO-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the IL-COOK-CHICAGO mailing list, send an email to > IL-COOK-CHICAGO@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IL-COOK-CHICAGO-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the > email with no additional text. > > > End of IL-COOK-CHICAGO Digest, Vol 4, Issue 32 > ********************************************** -- Go Cats!
Hi Cathy, Google Books is only showing a preview of this book and it appears that only pages 1 through 38 are available online. I don't want you to be disappointed when you try to get past page 38. Sharon Clouse -----Original Message----- From: il-cook-chicago-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:il-cook-chicago-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Catherine Sherry Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 9:49 PM To: il-cook-chicago@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IL-COOK-CHICAGO] IL-COOK-CHICAGO Digest, Vol 4, Issue 32 Chuck, The "Challenging Chicago" book is available to read online. Look for it at books.google.com. I've started reading it. Interesting historical perspective. Cathy