try this on! my grandmother had just gotten away from a man who beat her & had hooked up with my mother's future father. he wanted to get married, she didn't. they had my mother. he tried to get her(nanny) to marry him, but all af nanny's friends convinced her that if they did get married he would just take the baby(mom) from her, so she wouldn't marry him. he was in the military(this is early 40's) & mom & nanny followed him wherever he was stationed. when mom was 4? her father left. he said if he & nanny weren't going to get married he was going to find someone who wanted to marry him. he eventually did have a family. he was the love of her life, she regretted not marrying him, etc... she ended up getting married again, to another wife beater. the last few years of her life she thought she was back in the 40's with him. very sad-but at least she was happy! anyway, in the early 70's dad took mom to visit her father. he opened the door & mom told him who she was & he said i ! don't have a daughter & slammed the door. a few years ago i posted a query about him & got a response from his niece. she wanted to know why i was looking for him & i told her it was just for genealogy research, mom eamiled her & told her we didn't want anything she just wanted to know what kind of man he was. that was the last we heard from her. no responses to emails or anything. nanny wouldn't talk about him so i have very little info to go on. very frustrating!!! it's annoying to hear from a(possible) relative, think you're going to get info & you get nothing! especially when the person who is ignoring you is into genealogy also. i wonder if she has ever run into this problem... what goes around comes around! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com