FYI..............   The earlier marriage applications, pre early 1900's, aren't worth purchasing.  There's no  information  in addition to the license other than a signature.   Judie Mason Chicago --- On Fri, 2/20/09, Bonnie Brown <brown_bonnie@att.net> wrote: From: Bonnie Brown <brown_bonnie@att.net> Subject: [IL-COOK-CHICAGO] Marriage Certificates/Applications in Cook County To: il-cook-chicago@rootsweb.com, irish-in-chicago@rootsweb.com Date: Friday, February 20, 2009, 7:29 AM To answer the questions I've received: You cannot order the marriage application online through the cookcountygenealogy.com link. You have to do it in person at the County Clerk's office at 69 W. Washington lower level. They do have a new office layout, much more efficient than the old place. I had to pay $15 for the marriage certificate, PLUS another $15 for the license application...hey, we've got politician's relatives to support here! Please excuse my sarcasm ;-} Hope this helps. Bonnie ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IL-COOK-CHICAGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bonnie, Did you order this online or via mail? Did you ask for BOTH the cert and the application? AND, did you receive both for the same $15? I want to try my luck at this on some of the OLD ones! Thanks so much for sharing! Cher " application I ordered from the County Clerk. When I ordered, the clerk argued with me: there's no more info on it than on the certificate,> blaa blaa blaa, but I ordered it anyways. They DO have a> "key" for Marriage application on their system. It's $15, just like the> certificate". >

Hi Bonnie: Can you get this through the online system? Thanks, Linda in Boston --- On Thu, 2/19/09, Bonnie Brown <brown_bonnie@att.net> wrote: From: Bonnie Brown <brown_bonnie@att.net> Subject: [IL-COOK-CHICAGO] Marriage Applications--Cook County To: il-cook-chicago@rootsweb.com, irish-in-chicago@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, February 19, 2009, 9:47 PM Earlier this year, I participated in a thread about the contents of Cook County Marriage License applications (either here or on another Cook/Chicago list, I can't remember which!). I promised then I'd report what I learned from the application I ordered from the County Clerk. When I ordered, the clerk argued with me: there's no more info on it than on the certificate, blaa blaa blaa, but I ordered it anyways. They DO have a "key" for Marriage application on their system. It's $15, just like the certificate. Well, my order arrived this week. The marriage I ordered was from 1946. There are blanks on the form for names of bride and groom, ages (years), and BIRTHDATES, whether married before (widowed, divorced), whether they're blood relatives, signatures of both bride and groom, and ADDRESS of both bride and groom. Also a signature of the County Clerk and Deputy. Now I can't promise that every bride and groom filled out the forms entirely (mine did!), but the blanks are there. So much for no additional information! I'll sure order the application in the future. Hope this helps Bonnie ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IL-COOK-CHICAGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Very interesting....thanks for sharing. Sam in CA "So much for no additional information! I'll sure order the application in the future. Hope this helps"

Earlier this year, I participated in a thread about the contents of Cook County Marriage License applications (either here or on another Cook/Chicago list, I can't remember which!). I promised then I'd report what I learned from the application I ordered from the County Clerk. When I ordered, the clerk argued with me: there's no more info on it than on the certificate, blaa blaa blaa, but I ordered it anyways. They DO have a "key" for Marriage application on their system. It's $15, just like the certificate. Well, my order arrived this week. The marriage I ordered was from 1946. There are blanks on the form for names of bride and groom, ages (years), and BIRTHDATES, whether married before (widowed, divorced), whether they're blood relatives, signatures of both bride and groom, and ADDRESS of both bride and groom. Also a signature of the County Clerk and Deputy. Now I can't promise that every bride and groom filled out the forms entirely (mine did!), but the blanks are there. So much for no additional information! I'll sure order the application in the future. Hope this helps Bonnie

Thanks to Kate for the quick lookup and find of two obits for Abraham LANDFIELD. The first could have been very misleading naming only his second wife (my subject of interest). Chicago DAILY TRIBUNE, 17 June 1939, LANDFIELD--Abraham E. LANDFIELD, in Los Angeles, Cal., beloved husband of Lee, dear father of Harold and Edwin. Funeral services Monday, 2 p.m., at memorial chapel, 5206 Broadway. Member of Ancient Craft lodge, No. 907, A. F. & A. M. Chicago DAILY TRIBUNE, 18 June 1939, Page 18, LANDFIELD--Abraham E. LANDFIELD, in Los Angeles, Cal., beloved husband of the late Ida [nee KAMONOISKY], dear father of Harold and Edwin, fond brother of Harry, Pearl WEBER, Charles, Philip, and the late Joseph, Sarah MORRIS and Herman. Funeral services Monday, 2 p.m., at memorial chapel, 5206 Broadway. Member Ancient Craft lodge, No. 907, A. F. & A. M. Thanks, Michael McTeer

Hi- I'm sending Abraham's obit to your email address- Kate --- On Thu, 2/19/09, Michael McTeer <mcteer@gmail.com> wrote: From: Michael McTeer <mcteer@gmail.com> Subject: [IL-COOK-CHICAGO] OBIT Request, LANDFIELD, Abraham, June 1939 To: il-cook-chicago@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, February 19, 2009, 12:45 PM Seeking at least one possible obituary for Abraham LANDFIELD, b. abt 1873, died before 15 June 1939, Los Angeles. Los Angeles TIMES reports service and then his remains being sent to Chicago: Los Angeles TIMES, 15 June 1939, Page 12, LANDFIELD. Abraham Landfield. Services today, 12 noon at Malinow & Simons. Los Angles TIMES, 16 Jun 1939, Page 22, LANDFIELD, Abraham. Remains forwarded to Chicago by Malinow & Simons. Abraham LANFIELD/LANDFIELD is listed for the 1900/1910 censuses in Chicago. For 1910 (LANFIELD), he was born Nov 1873, "Russia", married five years with one child. His wife Ida was listed a being born Dec 1876, IL and son Harold born Aug 1896, IL. In 1910, there is addition of son Edwin age 8 (1902). For the 1920 census, he is in MI. The IL State Archives website references a 15 Sep 1895 marriage (Cook Co.) between Abraham LANDFIELD and Ida KOMINOFSKY (could be KOMINSKY/KOMINSKI). Same site give a death record as 6 Sep 1921. There is an Edwin LANDFIELD who died in CA: CA Death Index: LANDFIELD EDWIN A DOB: 03/16/1902 M POB:ILLINOIS County of Death:RIVERSIDE Cochella DOD: 07/04/1960 261-14-5310 58 yrs And a report in the Los Angeles TIMES: Los Angeles TIMES, 5 July 1960, Page B12, Desert Cafeman Dies Assisting Heart Sufferer. PALM SPRINGS. July 4--Palm Springs restaurateur E. A. LANDFIELD, 58[1902], had hardly summoned police to help a heart attack victim early today when he suffered a fatal heart attack himself. He had been a desert resort resident since 1946. Police said that just two hours before they rushed LANDFIELD to the hospital, he had called them to his hotel restaurant to aid a guest who had suffered a heart attack. The guest was reported recovering at the hospital today. >From the SSAN index I found a possible entry for son Harold: HAROLD LANDFIELD 09 Aug 1896 Aug 1970 33140 (Miami, Miami-dade, FL) (none specified) 261-14-5309 Florida Having said all this, my interest in the family involves the second marriage of Abraham about 1928 in Los Angeles to Elizabeth "Lee" (NIEMAN) ROSE LANDFIELD: Los Angeles TIMES, 20 September 1928, Page 8, VITAL RECORD, INTENTION TO MARRY. LANDFIELD-NIEMAN. Abe E. LANDFIELD, 55[1873]; Lee NIEMAN, 39(?)[1889]. "Lee" descends from the NUDELMAN family of St. Louis, MO. Hopefully a good obit will confirm I have the right family. Thanks, Michael McTeer 29 Palms, CA ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IL-COOK-CHICAGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Seeking at least one possible obituary for Abraham LANDFIELD, b. abt 1873, died before 15 June 1939, Los Angeles. Los Angeles TIMES reports service and then his remains being sent to Chicago: Los Angeles TIMES, 15 June 1939, Page 12, LANDFIELD. Abraham Landfield. Services today, 12 noon at Malinow & Simons. Los Angles TIMES, 16 Jun 1939, Page 22, LANDFIELD, Abraham. Remains forwarded to Chicago by Malinow & Simons. Abraham LANFIELD/LANDFIELD is listed for the 1900/1910 censuses in Chicago. For 1910 (LANFIELD), he was born Nov 1873, "Russia", married five years with one child. His wife Ida was listed a being born Dec 1876, IL and son Harold born Aug 1896, IL. In 1910, there is addition of son Edwin age 8 (1902). For the 1920 census, he is in MI. The IL State Archives website references a 15 Sep 1895 marriage (Cook Co.) between Abraham LANDFIELD and Ida KOMINOFSKY (could be KOMINSKY/KOMINSKI). Same site give a death record as 6 Sep 1921. There is an Edwin LANDFIELD who died in CA: CA Death Index: LANDFIELD EDWIN A DOB: 03/16/1902 M POB:ILLINOIS County of Death:RIVERSIDE Cochella DOD: 07/04/1960 261-14-5310 58 yrs And a report in the Los Angeles TIMES: Los Angeles TIMES, 5 July 1960, Page B12, Desert Cafeman Dies Assisting Heart Sufferer. PALM SPRINGS. July 4--Palm Springs restaurateur E. A. LANDFIELD, 58[1902], had hardly summoned police to help a heart attack victim early today when he suffered a fatal heart attack himself. He had been a desert resort resident since 1946. Police said that just two hours before they rushed LANDFIELD to the hospital, he had called them to his hotel restaurant to aid a guest who had suffered a heart attack. The guest was reported recovering at the hospital today. >From the SSAN index I found a possible entry for son Harold: HAROLD LANDFIELD 09 Aug 1896 Aug 1970 33140 (Miami, Miami-dade, FL) (none specified) 261-14-5309 Florida Having said all this, my interest in the family involves the second marriage of Abraham about 1928 in Los Angeles to Elizabeth "Lee" (NIEMAN) ROSE LANDFIELD: Los Angeles TIMES, 20 September 1928, Page 8, VITAL RECORD, INTENTION TO MARRY. LANDFIELD-NIEMAN. Abe E. LANDFIELD, 55[1873]; Lee NIEMAN, 39(?)[1889]. "Lee" descends from the NUDELMAN family of St. Louis, MO. Hopefully a good obit will confirm I have the right family. Thanks, Michael McTeer 29 Palms, CA

Yes, open 'view all collections' and scroll to the Illinois marriage collections. -----Original Message----- From: il-cook-chicago-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:il-cook-chicago-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Salliezoo@aol.com Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 2:13 PM To: il-cook-chicago@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IL-COOK-CHICAGO] Birth Records Now Online I tried the link in your email, but I get nothing. Is this link correct? _http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=0_ (http://pilot.familysearch.orcollections' g/recordsearch/start.html#p=0) Thanks for your help... Sallie Wald Hawaii **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=htt p://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=fe bemailfooterNO62) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IL-COOK-CHICAGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I tried the link in your email, but I get nothing. Is this link correct? _http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=0_ (http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=0) Thanks for your help... Sallie Wald Hawaii **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=fe bemailfooterNO62)

Here's how one volunteer described process of transcription. http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.counties.cook/27178/mb.ashx "I indexed over 3,000 records myself. But it takes a second indexer to do the same exact pages that I did. Then a third person, an administrator, compares the two persons' work, and where there were different interpretations of the handwriting, that third person makes the decision on which person's interpretation seems to be correct." Description page for volunteering. http://www.familysearchindexing.org/home.jsf Mary Yetzkes wrote: > Is this a good site? Family Search Labs? I've never used it before. > > chicagogenealogy wrote > >> My email has had a few glitches over the weekend, so this may be old news, >> but just in case it isn't, Chicago birth certificates and registers are >> now available online for free at FamilySearch Labs. Hooray! >> >> Cynthia >> >> http://tinyurl.com/49ooet >> >

Short answer: Yes! Have you used familysearch.org? This new site is a pilot site for which thousands of volunteers are transcribing records. It's especially good when you find your mother's birth certificate or your grandparents' marriage license and can download them! http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=0 Click on North America and see all the records. Wonderful! http://www.familysearch.org/eng/default.asp What's New Help create free public access to U.S. census indexes See prototype for searching millions of records Mary Yetzkes wrote: > Is this a good site? Family Search Labs? I've never used it before. > > > - >> My email has had a few glitches over the weekend, so this may be old news, >> but just in case it isn't, Chicago birth certificates and registers are >> now available online for free at FamilySearch Labs. Hooray! >> >> Cynthia >> >> http://tinyurl.com/49ooet >> >> >

The site is great. Just this morning I found who I think is my GGGrandfather's first wife, on that site [in Germany]. I never thought I would find her name, and it becomes important in trying to find my GGrandfather's half brother [who also came to the USA] - she would be his mother [who lived and died in Germany], but not my GGrandfather's mother [who I know because she came to the USA and is buried just a few miles from my house, next to my GGrandfather]. I just sat staring at the screen -- dumb struck !! I am still not sure I believe it. Sharon On 14 Feb 2009 at 20:30, Mary Snow wrote: Short answer: Yes! Have you used familysearch.org? This new site is a pilot site for which thousands of volunteers are transcribing records. It's especially good when you find your mother's birth certificate or your grandparents' marriage license and can download them! http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=0 Click on North America and see all the records. Wonderful! http://www.familysearch.org/eng/default.asp What's New Help create free public access to U.S. census indexes See prototype for searching millions of records Mary Yetzkes wrote: > Is this a good site? Family Search Labs? I've never used it before. > > > - >> My email has had a few glitches over the weekend, so this may be old news, >> but just in case it isn't, Chicago birth certificates and registers are >> now available online for free at FamilySearch Labs. Hooray! >> >> Cynthia >> >> http://tinyurl.com/49ooet >> >> > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IL-COOK-CHICAGO- request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Is this a good site? Family Search Labs? I've never used it before. ----- Original Message ----- From: <chicagogenealogy@comcast.net> To: <il-cook-chicago@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 10:42 AM Subject: [IL-COOK-CHICAGO] Birth Records Now Online > My email has had a few glitches over the weekend, so this may be old news, > but just in case it isn't, Chicago birth certificates and registers are > now available online for free at FamilySearch Labs. Hooray! > > Cynthia > > http://tinyurl.com/49ooet > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IL-COOK-CHICAGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Mary, Thank you so much. That was my Mary. My Sarah was her spinster sister who died at her home 2053 Lincoln Ave. August 1915. Would that she had been the Sarah you found. I could have had a lot more information as that Sarah Gray was well known. Elizabeth

Elizabeth, You didn't request an obit for Edwin, but I stumbled across it while searching for the others. It's an interesting obit -- thought I should send it your way. -Mary 1913-12-22 Chicago Tribune DR. GEO. W. GRAY, BOYS' FRIEND, DEAD Originator of Forward Movement Succumbs in Evanston at Age of 79. FOUND TWO RAGGED LADS Housed Them and Interested Charity Which Expanded Into Big Institution. George W. Gray. Born Dec. 6, 1834. Died Dec. 21, 1913. The Rev. George W. Gray, for many years a prominent figure in Methodist church work and founder of the Forward Movement - a settlement of educate boys and girls of the Eighteenth ward - died yesterday in his home at 1629 Hinman street in Evanston, at the age of 79. Dr. and Mrs. Gray celebrated their golden wedding anniversary on March 4, 1912. The widow and two childen - Dr. Edwin W. Gray of Chicago and Mrs. C. N. Segar of Evanston - survive. Born in Ohio. Dr. Gray was born near Pique, OH, on Dec. 6, 1834, and graduated from Iowa Wesleyan university in 1858 with the degrees of A. B. and A. M. He entered the Methodist ministry and became a member of the Rock River conference. At the time he started the Forward Movement in 1893 he was secretary of the Freedman's Aid society. He was also general secretary of the American university. For many years he has been associate pastor with Dr. Frank W. Gunsaulus of the Central church. The inception of the Forward movement was the finding by Dr. Gray of two ragged boys in Blue Island in 1893. Their plight so appealed to him that he installed them in a basement room under a saloon at Halsted and Harrison streets. He soon secured funds for his charity and with a name, supported by funds, he began his work among the children of the congested old Eighteenth ward. It was social settlement work with additional angles to appeal to children. The Forward movement expanded rapidly, and now occupies a comparatively spacious home at 1356 West Monroe street. About 600 women and children are members of the different clubs. One of the important features of the work is Forward Movement park, near Saugatuck, Mich., where about 1,000 children annually are made happy by fortnight outings in July and August. At the summer camp a miniature boys' republic has been in existence for many years, with Dr. Gray at the head. Elections, laws, and a congress have taught many a young west sider the rudiments of popular government and the value of self-help, which was Dr. Gray's maxim. Record Number: 19131222ob007 ******************************************* -----Original Message----- From: il-cook-chicago-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:il-cook-chicago-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of rea7669@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 10:45 PM To: IL-COOK-CHICAGO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [IL-COOK-CHICAGO] obituary or death notice Loretta Gray 1881, Sarah Gray 1915, Mary Gray Miller 1914 Dear Listers, Could someone who has access to old newspapers try to find an obituary or other article for the following ladies? Loretta Harford Gray died 15 Apr 1881, Mary Gray Miller died 22 Aug 1914, Sarah Gray died 17 Apr 1915. They all died in Chicago. Loretta and Sarah were buried in Morris, IL. Mary Gray Miller (widow of John W. Miller) was buried at Rosehill in Chicago. Thank you for your help, Elizabeth ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IL-COOK-CHICAGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Elizabeth, I found an obit for Mary and a front page mention of Sarah's death -- couldn't find obits for Sarah or Loretta. Chicago Tribune 1914-08-24 Mary Gray Miller, Aug. 22, 1914. Funeral services will be held at Bentley's chapel, 2701 N. Clark St., Monday, Aug. 24, at 3:30pm. Interment at Rosehill. Record Number: 19140824dn020 ------------------------------------------------------ Chicago Tribune 1915-05-27 MRS. GRAY DIES ON TRAIN Aged Evanston Woman Expires in Cincinnati Enroute From South Cincinnati, OH, May 26.--[Special.]--Mrs. Sarah B. Gray, 77 years old, of 1629 Hinman avenue, a settlement worker of Evanston, Ill., died suddenly tonight shortly after she reached this city from Miamisburg, Fla. She died in a berth on a sleeping car before a physician could be summoned. Miss Louis Boyeen of Chicago was the only one with Mrs. Gray when she expired. She was the mother of Dr. Edwin Gray of Chicago, and the aunt of George W. Gray. Record Number: 19150527fp012 ************************************************* -----Original Message----- From: il-cook-chicago-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:il-cook-chicago-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of rea7669@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 10:45 PM To: IL-COOK-CHICAGO-L@rootsweb.com Dear Listers, Could someone who has access to old newspapers try to find an obituary or other article for the following ladies? Loretta Harford Gray died 15 Apr 1881, Mary Gray Miller died 22 Aug 1914, Sarah Gray died 17 Apr 1915. They all died in Chicago. Loretta and Sarah were buried in Morris, IL. Mary Gray Miller (widow of John W. Miller) was buried at Rosehill in Chicago. Thank you for your help, Elizabeth

Dear Listers, Could someone who has access to old newspapers try to find an obituary or other article for the following ladies? Loretta Harford Gray died 15 Apr 1881, Mary Gray Miller died 22 Aug 1914, Sarah Gray died 17 Apr 1915. They all died in Chicago. Loretta and Sarah were buried in Morris, IL. Mary Gray Miller (widow of John W. Miller) was buried at Rosehill in Chicago. Thank you for your help, Elizabeth

My email has had a few glitches over the weekend, so this may be old news, but just in case it isn't, Chicago birth certificates and registers are now available online for free at FamilySearch Labs. Hooray! Cynthia http://tinyurl.com/49ooet

The Black Hawk War was in 1832, probably not the same person you are looking for. On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 1:35 PM, RMW <ancestorhunt@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > I don't know where my brain was. Frank B. could not be in the Civil War. > He was a child. He was in the spanish American and Black Hawk.. > Rosie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mary Snow" <marysnow@bellsouth.net> > To: <il-cook-chicago@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 6:05 AM > Subject: Re: [IL-COOK-CHICAGO] ALSIP, Frank B. > > > >I see references at Google books: > > http://books.google.com/bkshp?hl=en&tab=wp > > > > http://books.google.com/books?q=Frank+B.+Alsip&btnG=Search+Books > > > > Mary > > > > RMW wrote: > >> Frank B. Alsip was a Major in the Civil War, the Black Hawk War, and the > >> Spanish American War. and his obit just glances over his military life. > >> I would like to find out more about my Great Grandfather's military life > >> and record. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to go about this?. > >> I don't believe he attended a military school, but I didn't even know he > >> was in the Civil War. I've learned anything is possible. He was > married > >> in the 1900 census, but divorced in the 1910 census. I didn't find him, > >> but located my Great Grandmother, living with my G Great Grandmother. > >> Larry Forman in California > >> > >> Chicago Daily Tribune 16 May 1910 > >> > >> Maj. Frank B. Alsip, plant manager of the Calumet Brick Company died > >> Satruday at St. Francks' hospital, Blue Island from pneumonia. He was > >> born in Mcgregor, IA 48 years ago, and had been a resident of Chicago > >> since 1873. He served in the First Illinois Cavalry during the Spanish > >> war. Maj. Alsip is survived by a dt, a brother and two sisters. The > >> funeral will be held from his late residence in Blue Island at 2:20 plm > >> Chapel Graceland Cem Tuesday the 175h at 2:30 p.m. > >> > >> > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IL-COOK-CHICAGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IL-COOK-CHICAGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >